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Grateful DeadGrateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1975-06-17 (June 17, 1975)

Collection: : GratefulDead
Band/Artist: Grateful Dead
Date: June 17, 1975 (check for other copies)
Venue: Winterland Arena
Location: San Francisco, CA

Source: Sony ECM-280's > Sony TC-152SD
Lineage: playback on Nak Dragon > Sony PCM 601ES > Beta > Sony R500 DAT >HHb-850 CDR

Description

Set 1

Crazy Fingers
Beat It On Down The Line
Deal
Big River
Peggy-O
Me And My Uncle
Help On The Way ->
Slipknot! ->
Franklin's Tower

Set 2

Blues For Allah ->
Stronger Than Dirt Or Milkin' The Turkey ->
Drums ->
Stronger Than Dirt Or Milkin' The Turkey ->
Blues For Allah
Sugar Magnolia

Encore
U.S. Blues

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Reviewer: pauliewalnuts - - November 3, 2009
Subject: Phish tools
Scurryingsquirl is a total tool. Phish's whole thing could never have happened if it were not for the legacy of the Dead and their innovative style of live performance, including show length. Where do you think they got it from??? Its like people who say Stevie Ray Vaughn is better than Albert King, saying the student is better than the master he got it all from. To pick one show when the Dead are on hiatus and call it weak bacuse its SHORT is in itself weak. And its not even about length. A band could play a five hour show but it could still suck. If its an hour and a half and great playing that is better. Phish has the soul of a vaccum player compared to the Dead and their ability to sustain a long vamp jam owes in large part to the Dead's influence, not to mention that their fanbase draws from the Dead, alot of whom are people who just need to cling onto something and follow a band around. That said, Trey is a great guitar player and worthy of respect.

Reviewer: Taojoe - - September 26, 2009
Subject: Sorry...
Sorry this show doesn't work for me. This is my favorite Dead era but the set starts slow, with unfocused low energy.
Pick-ups a little for the HOTW->Slipknot!-FT sequence. Has a nice Blues For Allah.

I'm no Dead basher - just choose another night.
Thanks to the tapers & those who post the shows - regardless of my rating - it's a blessing to have these.

Reviewer: Hashjihad - - August 25, 2009
Subject: Awesome Aud!!!!!!!!!
Everyone on this post needs to chill the fuck out, phish is all right, i love the dead and will always be far superior to phish. But I am from Burlington, Vt and have seen almost all members of phish playing in separate shows, with phil lesh and they are all super talented musicians and there is no reason to knock them for no reason. Listen to fluff head and his travels on Junta and tell me this is not an excellent piece of music. Other than that well this show is very cool and all there songs seem a little different than normal, the 1975 and aud mix give you and really cool experience.

Reviewer: gratefulpat - - August 13, 2009
Subject: phish phreak
i myself, being 22 missed out on the dead, and did get my fair share of phish, but sorry my friend. there is no comparisson. this is during their hiatus, after the phish hiatus(returning this summer) ive seen 6 of there shwos, all of which were absolute garbage, i loved phish seeing them in 98, 99, when i was young was amazing nwo in 2009, i will never pay a penny to see them again. this dead hiatus show is sicker than sick. not one thign to complain about, the crazy fingers alone is more ripping than the last 6 phish shows ive seen. btw, phish shows run about 3 hours, tops 4. check out some 72 shows bud, topping 4 into the 5 hour easily some, try 69, 50 song shows. phish on their best couldnt top the dead on there worst.. minus the 90s which dont count. because the dead wasnt the dead in the 90s anymore. but my point, phish sucks ass and go phuck yourself. every1 elses reviews, spot on! keep on rockin boys and girls as the music will never stop

Reviewer: Folkhippy - - August 13, 2009
Subject: What a dip
Hey Phish man, you must be totally lost in the world of the Dead to try and come to 1975 to look for 5 hour grand stand concerts. Do you know anything about the Dead? 1975 was a hiatus year for the band, people were damn lucky to see them at ALL let alone for an hour and a half set! They were creating killer music around this time and their few concerts of this year were really rehearsals and a way to give their friends a show they were craving. Of course they didn't play long shows, they were out of shape rehearsal wise. Bob Weir said people were going to hear, "the rustiest band on the earth", before one of their FOUR 1975 performances! The Dead were not attempting to set longest jam records at these shows. They had a new sound system and new equipment to get used to after they stopped using the Wall of Sound. Bobby and Jerry were playing new custom made guitars (Ibanez and Travis Bean, Bob switched to Boogie amp)and the whole band needed to get the feel of everything again. I personally am grateful for the beautiful music the band played live this year. Lindley Meadows and Great American Music Hall are up there in my top 20 favorite Dead shows. The live shows of 1975 were creative bursts, they were not well rehearsed, and in this case it was a SURPRISE set! The band wanted to perform their new music that desperately needed to be heard in a live setting! I would never start out here when looking to get into the Dead. Try '68 or '72, don't randomly listen to a '75 AUD and base you decision off that! I tried to listen to Phish, but they don't even come close to the Dead's musical expertise for me. I would rather listen to an old, crusty, reel-to-reel AUD from '70 than hear Junta again! That album SUCKS! If only everyone could understand the Dead, it really is for a select few who have a higher state of musical consciousness.

Now for the real Deadheads out there...THIS SHOW IS GREAT! The sound is a little off but fairly good for an AUD from that era. Crazy Fingers is b-e-a-utiful and this the Help>Slip>Franklin's is amazing. Don't miss out on this rare gem!

Reviewer: DeadRed1971 - - August 6, 2009
Subject: Bob Fried Memorial Boogie:
1 1/2 hours is pretty good considering there were several other bands on the bill, and officially GD were not. JG and Friends and Keith & Donna's band were though.

Reviewer: Sedula - - July 29, 2009
Subject: To Scurryingsquirl
If you don't like it leave. The Dead were playing 3-4 hour shows before the guys in Phish were born. This was one of the few shows during thier "retirement" and was just a one set show. You and Phish are BS! Phish didn't make it 30 years did they? The Dead did...so take that!

At least most Deadheads (I said most) bathed!. Phish fans on average are just lame ass spare changers from upper middle class families. I would be ashamed if my son or daughter grew up to spare change at Phish shows. Go take a shower and than get lost. We don't need you a-holes here!!

Reviewer: Pulver@Noyo - - July 29, 2009
Subject: Where am I?
So...Go listen to a Phish show, puppy. Too bad you weren't around for the monster four hour shows that happened in the 60's and 70's.

An instant 5 to squash the squirrel's floor- thrashing petulance.

Love the instrumental HOTW into Slipknot!

Reviewer: scurryingsquirl - - July 15, 2009
Subject: Booo...
Only a one hour first set and a 30 min second set with a one song encore? Are you kidding me? WEAK! Phish shows are always 3-4 hours of great music. This is B.S

Reviewer: China Cat 1983 - - June 25, 2009
Subject: First time out of the box for Help and Franklin
A great show, and unique rendition of Help (instrumental). First time in concert. Same with Franklin.
Crisp, clean recording.
Jerry & co. were rocking

Reviewer: Ras ViKing - - June 19, 2009
Subject: The Bys do it AGAIN!
For a year with so few shows it sure seems like each one this year is superb.

This show has several of my favorite songs [Crazy Fingers, Deal, Big River, Peggy-O, H>S>F and Blues For Allah] and they are all good renditions. It's '75 so they're kinda laid back and mellow for this show but they still crank out some super jazzy jams even if they're not the long spacey kind some prefer.

I think I'll be adding several songs from this show to my favorite versions list.

The show is enjoyable and the recording is beautiful and clear. Thanks to whoever managed to capture this and shared it with us!

Reviewer: BingCrosby - - May 31, 2009
Subject: Near Perfection
The tracks from this concert are downright incredible. The sound quality is top notch, and these recordings capture the band at a moment of near perfection.

(I only wish I had recorded a few tracks with them myself)

;)

Reviewer: rcs616 - - May 6, 2009
Subject: peggy-o
Amazing crystal clear recording. the passion in Jerry's voice & guitar leads are so great to hear. Thanks for posting.

Reviewer: Patty Falafal - - April 21, 2009
Subject: interesting
love jg here as well...weir songs fine but not anything really interesting or unique for me. I know this will irritate purists and collectors, of which I am neither, just a fan of great music and not just the dead like some folks...too much else out there that I enjoy as well but I have always had a place for gratefulenss in my soul and an ear for fine musicianship. I took the jerry songs, blues and mags...burned one hell of a very pleasurable snippet of 75 disc, covers it for me...just couldn't take the chance on not having this outrageous take on peggyo, simply stunning. never having seen the boys out west, guess this is as close as i'll ever get to the winterland experience...and just to get it off my mind and say it...not so much on this listing but I wish people would stop posting to this site, moaning and complaining about this and that and how greedy and terrible and selfish so and so is and so forth...the people who dedicated their lives to taping, editing, uploading, going through all the bs red tape and permissions and stuff to bring us this fabulous site and access to history are awesome folks and work for the love of the music and the fans of live music in how much it means to so many folks in our lives...thank you alll...i never knew or will know the oade brothers or other tapers or charlie miller or any band members or robert hunter or j. Aizen or anybody associted with the bands on this site but i'm sure glad others made the effort and they need to know they are appreciated.

peace to all of you

pf

Reviewer: thanks1 - - April 16, 2009
Subject: Peggy O
Wow.

Thanks for letting me know about it.

Reviewer: SUPERWOW - - April 12, 2009
Subject: Peggy-O
What a nice pace for this song, and the whole show is out of control. Love the audience, very responsive.

Reviewer: Stellablu122 - - April 5, 2009
Subject: What a treat.
It is cool to listen to a great audience recording from this period.Some notable moments, love the Crazy Finger, Peggi-O and the Slipknot!. The Blues for Allah is a must listen and the ending is classic Good Ole GD

Reviewer: osy420 - - April 5, 2009
Subject: Bob Fried Memorial Boogie
This was one of the rare 4 or 5 shows that was the 75 tour.All were fantastic,Kezar and GAMH being the best.This show had specal meaning to the boys in that Bob Fried was a friend.Tanks of nitrous in a sealed closet and lack of oxygen dont go well together,hence,Memorial Boogie,RIP,Bob.......................................

Reviewer: Sir-Mix-Alot - - March 31, 2009
Subject: Bertrando? Sounds like you are inside Winterland.
Is this really Rob Bertrando's recording? If so, he is the godfather of all tapers. This recording has amazing 3-D stereo and clarity. If anyone wondered what it sounded like to attend a Dead show at Winterland, this is a dynamite recording. Well worth a listen and download. Please check out Bertrando's 8-6-71.

Reviewer: aegert - - December 31, 2008
Subject: Bertrando
Hey this is Rob Bertrando's Master as transferred by Bob Menke for Rob... Rob edited it and here it is.. Rob did the eq .. Suprised me as Rob is not a fan of post tape edit / eq.. either way grab it its a great source.

Menke and Falanga each pulled this as well from much further up front and it sounds it. Neither circulates ;-) The Menke sounds less 'Winterland-Esque' It is somewhat compressed being those mikes upfront with higher levels... Robs sounds more like what it must have been like to be in Winterland's big box... Vocals are a little bit further back.... They might make a great matrix LOL... I like Rob's a lot for that. Hearing Winterland sometimes is like an affirmation then at other times a nuisance you choose

The eq on this is raised a bit on the high end.. It could be the 152 eq settings for high bias still at 120us and bob playing back at 120us rather than at 70us or what Rob did. I would be interested to know... It does seam Dolby decoded I think...

Both are great.... Look for Bob's some time in the future...

It is a killer show and for me 75 is so important in the bands history and sound.. There is an excitement in the music with new direction that I think recharged them... I am a real big fan of 75 :-)

Thanks Rob for the share!

Reviewer: FoureTwentey420 - - December 16, 2008
Subject: Its all Jerry
This show is essential, alot of technical artistry in the real provocative compositions like "stronger than dirt" and "slipknot". Sound is good to my ears like jerrys voice in franklins real clear and focused. This music is alot of fun, this is an awesome tape with alot of highlights and rare quality's to it its really one of a kind in a sense because of what a departure this set is from that standard they had built up to in the wall of sound days. If you like Jerry Garcia then this one is a classic this is him still reaching for that next level this was that kind of coalescence where the drugs or band dynamics or whatever it was that drove that thing forward were all properly proportioned to give you a really great final product which was the greatest fucking band in the history of the world. Beautiful technically proficient music, great show.

Reviewer: TheProdigalSon - - December 12, 2008
Subject: an all time favorite
what a great shuffle feel in this concert - amazing Help on Way. Definitely an all time concert.

Reviewer: cb18201 - - November 17, 2008
Subject: one from the vault = 8/13/75
no one from the vault is the 8/13/75 show at the great american music hall. this aud is pretty sick too

Reviewer: tidesturnednow - - October 30, 2008
Subject: One from the Vault
Isn't this show out commercially as One from the Vault?

Reviewer: sambonk - - October 1, 2008
Subject: WOW
This is the Better of the 2 here in LMA land!!

Reviewer: Evan S. Hunt - - May 11, 2008
Subject: The Bob Fried Memorial Boogie
Exquisite performance and a monumentally astounding Audience recording.

Words do this no justice. Allow the music to tell you what you need to know.

Reviewer: jerkwaterdan - - April 16, 2008
Subject: Pretty Peggy-O
The year 1975 is often overlooked due to the bands rare concerts during their sabbatical from touring. That is too bad and if you havn't heard every show from this fantastic year you are missing out.
This benefit for poster artist Bob Fried is an excellent example of the bands style and new sound. If nothing else at least check out the special version of Peggy-O from this excellent audience recording. It is like no other recorded version. Jerry takes his time and really adds alot of pathos to the words and pulls out a beautiful and stirring guitar solo.
Other highlights are a wordless Help On The Way, a marvelous Crazy Fingers and an extra spacey Blues For Allah. A great show from a great and under-rated year.

Notes

Pitch correction and slight EQ in Audacity
(This lineage not on etree as of 10/6/2007)