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tv   Mc Laughlin Group  CBS  July 27, 2014 6:30am-7:01am EDT

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from washington, the american original, the best sources, ráhardest talk. israel versus hamas. secretary of state john kerry is trying to broker a cease fire in the fighting between israel and
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hamas. it began when three israelis were kidnapped and murdered. then a palestinian you'll burned to death was discovered outside of jerusalem. fighting broke out. hamas rockets fired into the israeli. for ten days, israel used air strikes to attempt to stop the rocket attack. when those failed, the president there ordered a ground defensive aiming on the tunnel networks that hamas uses to bomb israel 700 palestinians and 35 israelis have been killed in the fighting. as of friday, 800 palestinians and 37 israelis have been killed. what does hamas want from a cease fire and what does israel
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want from a crease fire? >> hamas wants a lifting of what they call a seize they want to open and they would like for their airport opened and they want some kind of reward for losses they have had. the israelis want to decapitate hamas and blow up the tunnels going into israel. >> it has been the israeli strategy for the last decade to dismantle the tunnel and irradicate the rockets. the thing is, this siege now, the former embassador to israel is saying that the u.s. should help irradicate hamas. the more you bomb gaza, you
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will never stop the resistance there. in getting a -- cease fire, they have to get to the point where the israelis can lift some of the conditions they have imposed on gaza and the israelis want to be able to leave troops along the border. i don't know if that's reasonable or not but you have to give gaza something in return for that. >> for a long time, people thought that it was quite suited, people in israel, thought they had it under control life in israel is a bit like california. on hamas' side, they thought
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they were winning the war against israel i think the idea that it's sustainable and this is something you can do every couple of years is a question. >> hamas is another word for the muslim brother hood. they have no sympathy on israel on any level and they have been threatened by this forever and they will continue to be threatened. you can't reason with them israel has to do enough that they will defer from doing it for some serious point of time. >> how long can hamas hold out in a cease fire in its own terms? >> i don't think they can.
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the idea is that they would capture and kidnap. >> do >> do >> do you remember the underground cities in vietnam? >> hamas has advanced tunnels that are very, very deep in the earth? yes. >> do you know how long it took to get rid of those tunnels? >> it's a threat to israel. >> no -- one is questioning israel's right to defend themselves, but it's become disproportionate. israel has to ask itself, even if you do irradicate hamas, what
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would take its place? >> how long can israel press its position to get a cease fire? >> there's a short and long- term problem. israel has every right to go after the tunnels and the rockets but the long-term question is, you cannot kill your way to peace. israel can't kill enough palestinians to make them go quiet and that bigger question of a palestinian homeland has to remain on the teenager. all of this construction has the danger to open the territory. >> one of the real things, the attack wasn't an attack. the rocket came in down the airport for two days. now you take hamas, that's what they're going to shoot for in any future war because of the impact it has on the europeans
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and on israel. >> israel's point is world opinion. what's fueling world opinion. >> whatever happens, this is something that has happened over and over again. it's not the first time it's happened. whenever they try to deal with hamas, they say israel cannot do this. they don't want to have any fighting. >> i will tell you what is going to cause serious problems that is the disproportion casualty rate. >> but israel cannot live under the continued threat that they have had from the hamas people. >> do you think world opinion will assemble itself? >> i think it is assembling itself. >> the former national security advisor.
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why he says it's blundered. he was an advisor in 1978 to carter when -- >> i think he's isolated israel and we ought to make it clear that this is a course of action which we disapprove and we do not support and which may compel us and the rest of the community to take steps in aspirations in the u.n. >> david, what are your comments? >> tragically, he's right. israel is not in the position of being a democracy, it's being poisoned from within because some of the hardlined positions they're taking making no distinction between hamas and the forces led by hamas hamas is more wicked and you can't lump them together and
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start having these forces that say that all arabs are the enemy. >> he spoke out, but, you know, the u.s. is the only one giving diplomatic cover in the u.n.. >> is he using words like war crimes? >> when children are dead, schools hit, it was a horrible thing. but the only solution here is political and i understand why the israelis don't want a political solution. they say we let the west bank go and it turns into another gaza. i think he has written off the idea of leaving off of the west bank. >> how much support does
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have in gaza >> they have a lot of support. the israelis were hit by rockets going into their country, hundreds of them. it's as if 75% of the americans had 60 seconds to get into a shelter they have to respond. they didn't start this thing. >> they round up the hamas guys for the lynching of the kids and israelis responded and you have a new war >> israel has exploited the killing of those three children and retaliated by destroying everything that makes a decent life for civilians in gaza. i suspect israel will continue this as long as they think they can. they cannot irradicate them
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tunnels can be rebuilt and rockets reacquired. >> hamas is an idea. >> does israel have any allies? >> when israel is being a proper democracy. >> egypt is behind israel and the antihamas. you have the middle east, the whole thing is the turmoil. >> the leader of egypt is very, very strongly on the israeli side and against hamas because he believes they're the equivalent of the muslim brotherhood and they are. >> i don't understand what the
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turks are doing. the -- this is why this whole place, the saudis are supporter of israel. because it's the muslim brother hood. >> antihamas. >> egypt and the saudis and a lot of the other arab countries are alleys >> they have to worry about extremists in their own territory. you can't stamp it out, you have to learn how to work with it and give the people in gaza some means to make a living you have 80% on food aide. israel likes to talk about how we left gaza, gaza is
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independent. they're ruling gaza. >> when wethe european's union with russia. is it now at a turning point? as a
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europe, verdict, the remains of some of the 298 people
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caleed on malaysia airline 217 began to arrive today in amsterdam, in the netherlands, the home of most of the deceased and europe leaders debate about what to do. what kind of financial sanctions to impose on russia. they briefed the press on evidence linking russia to the downing of flight 17. almost 100 people remain missing, presumingly strewn across the debris field as the aircraft was torn a part in midnight. vladimir putin joined for an international investigation but has not accepted responsibility for the 298 passenger deaths on behalf of the russian government or the separatists charged with downing the plane. on wednesday, separatetists shot down two more aircraft, as if
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to underscore that the missile system believed to have killed everyone onboard is still fully operatal. france announce that had it would press on with a planned delivery of the assault ship to russia this fall. $1.5 billion vessel can carry armored vehicles and up to 16 attack helicopters. is moscow intimidating the union? >> if it was so frightened, but it's about profit. that's where you can start to see the first glimmers of a change there's been some fascinating comments a week after the plane crash.
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really sort of morally outraged by the man handling of the bodies at the crash site implying that the whole thing was a hoax. the netherlands, it's a country the size of maryland with 60 million people in it. everyone feels touched by the death. some of the biggest countries, they had employee on the plane. that business community, that profit-driven seems to be changed. >> you can see an extraordinary reluctance to move towards the isolation of russia because that is a dead end. this is a country twice the size of the united states. all during the cold war, we're trying to reach out and engage them. >> what about the role of money
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by business ties, russia energy export, investments? they're all inhibitions. >> right, >> it's not fear of nuclear weapons, it's basically because the economies of europe are so intertwined and they don't want to pay the economic price. it's common for a president to say they need to do this, but i understand their reluctance and you see david cameron with tougher rhetoric. to pull all of those countries together is a big task. >> do you think there's rhetoric going onto vladimir putii think there's another reason behind this. if you look at what happened since the end of world war ii,
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the counter force to russia was the united states. the united states was the leader to a pose russia and lead europe in this direction. a as a as a as a as a as a as a as a as a a
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meeting 234 -- in south it's an intriguing show. >> will the downing of flight 17 stiffen the resolve of the european union or will they remain wobbly on russia?
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>> wobbly now but they're stiffening a bit. >> that is right. i think there's still some hope they will tighten the screws on vladimir putin. >> stiffened wobbliness. >> i think it's a wobbly stiffness. >> i'm with you all. we'll be right back with predictions.
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predictions, pat. >> collision between the president and congress later when it's revealed that there's no deal with the ukraine enrichment and they try to impose new sanctions on iran. >> the republicans will pick up the senate seat in montana because the incumbent blamed ptsd for his plagiarizing a thesis he wrote. appropriate excuse. >> i think we're going to be talking about iraq again soon.
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we have been focused on russia that we're missing what is going on there. >> you think that the government will fall? >> the prime minister. >> the weakening in the housing market and the weakening of the job market means a low rate of growth and it's going to have a big impact on the upcoming election. >> two players in the u.s. irs widening scandal. bye-bye.
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