okay. good afternoon everyone. this meeting will come to order, welcome to the may 6th, 2024 regular meeting of the land use and transportation committee of the san francisco board of supervisors. i am supervisor myrna melgar, chair of the committee. joined by board of supervisors president aaron peskin and vice chair dean preston. the committee clerk today is mr. john carroll. and i would also like to acknowledge jaime etcheverry at, sfgovtv for staffing this meeting. mr. clerk, do you have any announcements? yes. thank you madam chair. please ensure that you've silenced your cell phones and other electronic devices.

you may have brought with you into the chamber today. if you have any documents to include as part of any of today's files, you should submit them to me. and you can do so by bringing them forward to the rail. i'll meet you there. public comment will be taken on each item on today's agenda. when your item of interest comes up in public comment is called, please sign up to speak along the right hand side of the room for you. alternatively you may submit public comments in writing. you may do so by emailing your comment to me. my email address is joe biden. period c a r o l l at sfgovtv. org or you may send your written public comments via us postal service to our office in city hall. the address is one. doctor carlton b goodlett place, room 244, san francisco, california 94102. if you submit public comment in writing, i will forward your comment to the members of this committee and i will also include your comment as part of the official file on which you are commenting. and finally, madam chair, items acted upon today are expected to appear on the board of supervisors agenda of may 14th, 2024 unless otherwise stated.

thank you very much, mr. clerk. please call item number one. agenda item number one is an ordinance amending the planning code to modify the 900 kearney special use district to allow an enclosed rooftop building addition with a restricted arts activities use. amending the planning code to clarify the usize maximums applicable in the chinatown community benefit district. excuse me. community business district affirming the planning department's secret determination. making findings of consistency with the general plan and the eight priority policies of planning code, section 101.1 and findings of public convenience, necessity and welfare pursuant to planning code section 302. and one more thing, madam chair. i have a memo from your desk requesting this matter be agendized as a committee report for potential consideration by the board of supervisors tomorrow, may 7th. thank you so much, mr. clerk, president peskin, thank you for introducing this item. the floor is yours. thank you. chair melgar and supervisor preston, you will recall, we, passed an earlier iteration of this

special use district. this is a slight adjustment, requested by the project sponsor. and i do have some amendments today that were suggested by planning department staff, and incorporate into the recommendation by the planning commission who heard this on their consent calendar, to clarify use sizes in the chinatown community business district, which is set forth on page five of the ordinance. that makes it clear for that, as to usize and this was not part of the legislation, this was recommended by the planning department. but i agree, and this would be a convenient place to, put this clarification into the code that the use size is permitted up to 2500ft!s and requires conditional use, between 2501 and 5000ft!s, the revisions to the earlier ordinance, have to do with very

specific, specifications for, the rooftop appurtenance, that, as you will see on page four of the ordinance and as recommended by planning limits its size, and its height and its use to arts activities. i want to thank the project sponsor for, not only working with the community, but for working with a renowned, district three artist who is present here today. the one and only jeremy fish, and with that, i, madam chair, would turn it over to the department of planning. if they have any comments or, want to further explain the position of the commission. hi. welcome thank you. president melgar and, supervisor peskin, audrey maloney with the planning department staff. i won't reiterate what supervisor peskin already stated. just to say that

the planning commission is supportive of the ordinance with the proposed recommended modifications that supervisor peskin just stated. thank you. thank you so much. any other speakers? president peskin, i believe that a representative of the project sponsor, mr. alan low, is also present. welcome, mr. low, good afternoon. good afternoon. supervisors alan low of perkins coie, attorneys for jackson kearney llc. superm risers. i first want to say thank you for the original legislation, which established the office at the corner of jackson and kearney street. this is an important step to the economic viability of this building and to this corner of district three. this trailing legislation is, i think, the creative piece to the original wsud legislation and to the building. this will bring a creative and design and murals

to the building. hopefully to draw together chinatown, north beach and jackson square together in a creative way that will hopefully spark and inspire other buildings to do the same. something that we see in wynwood in miami, florida. we hope that this will spark that creation, we also are featuring jeremy fish, a well known city, artist, and he will be our principal designer and artist for the artistic elements of the building. finally, i just want to note that, the building is going to provide creative space for jeremy fish. so that he can continue to create his art pieces in san francisco without further delay. i would like to introduce you to jeremy fish. good afternoon, everybody. thanks for having me. supervisors i've never spoken at

something like this, so forgive me if i'm not using the correct formalities, this opportunity is really important to me to take this building that i was tasked to sort of reinvent it and include some elements of city history and history about the districts that all kind of line up right where the building is, part of that project. it allows me to have a studio somewhere in the building. so i'm not creating things for this building, at another address, my personal hope for this project is that this building inspires other property owners in the financial district to use artists and do similar things to sort of reinvigorate a neighborhood that is not in its best moment in history, allowing me to have a studio on this property and allowing me to sort of change the face of this building, gives people further insight into the history of these districts. and also, like i said, hopefully allowing other artists to do similar projects in the area. thank you, mr. fish . see you at the cafe. thanks,

guys. thank you, mr. fish. okay, it looks like that's it for speakers. let's go to public comment on this item, please. thank you. madam chair. land use and transportation will now take public comment on agenda item number one. if you have public comment for agenda one, please come forward to the lectern at this time. and madam chair, it appears we have no speakers. okay. thank you so much, i would like would you like to make a motion president, as soon as you close public comment. public comment on this item is now closed. i would like to make a motion to send this item. i'd like to make a motion to amend this item with the amendments that i have distributed to you and publicly described, and then i would like to send the item as amended, with recommendation as a committee report. that's a motion on the motion offered by member peskin that the ordinance be amended and then recommended, as amended, as a committee report, to tomorrow's board meeting. on that motion, vice chair preston preston, i member

peskin i. peskin i chair melgar i. melgar i madam chair. there are three eyes that motion passes. thank you, thank you, mr. clerk, please call item number two. agenda item number two is a resolution adding the commemorative street name. midge wilson alley to the 100 block of elm street in recognition of midge wilson's incredible contribution to the children and families in the tenderloin neighborhood. okay, supervisor preston, thank you for introducing. the floor is yours. thank you. chair melgar, and thank you for calendaring this, resolution to rename the 100 block of elm street to midge wilson alley in recognition of midge wilson's incredible contribution to the children and families of the tenderloin. for over four decades, midge has been at the forefront of changing lives in the neighborhood through her work

with the bay area women's and children's center, which she founded in 1981 and served as the organization's executive director until her retirement in 2022, the board cc is a resource center in the tenderloin, which serves directly low income families, women and children, and leads on education and advocacy work to improve the lives of the people they serve. for so many women in the tenderloin, the board cc is a safe place where they can take a break from their daily lives, rest on a comfortable couch, find community with other women from the neighborhood, receive food, clothing, and other necessary supplies, and get referrals and connected to jobs and other important resources. in san francisco, under midge wilson's guidance as the executive director of the bay

area women's and children's center has undertaken projects that have truly transformed the neighborhood in so many ways, including, playing a key role in bringing a five playground to the tenderloin and civic center, including the tenderloin rec center, home to family friendly community festivals and other events. after school programs and open areas for children to play. one of midge's crowning achievements was co-founding the tenderloin community school tcs in 1998, and it is hard to believe that before that year that thousands of children that lived in the tenderloin did not have their own elementary school in the neighborhood, children would have to travel by bus or walk long distances to get to their daily classes. and being a working class neighborhood, this also made it harder for parents to be active in their children's school life, as they need to juggle their jobs and travel long distances to their

children's schools. working with the community, midge spearheaded the creation of tcs, the neighborhood's first public elementary school. midge wilson's work always started from a place of deep listening to what the community had to say , where she and her team of staff and volunteers conducted regular surveys and door to door inquiries to fully understand the issues that affect the tenderloin. it is only fitting that we honor midge wilson's legacy in such a meaningful way and rename the 100 block of elm street that alleyway that directly abuts the tenderloin community school in her honor. this gesture not only recognizes midge's invaluable contributions , but also serves as a reminder of the profound impact that one individual can have on an entire community. i want to thank the leadership of the bay area women's and children's center for bringing this idea to us,

and for working with our office on this effort, and also want to recognize and thank my legislative aide, jennifer bolin, for all her work on this. and unless there are comments or questions, madam chair, if you could open it for public comment, that would be great. thank you. supervisor preston, mr. clerk, let's go to public comment on this item, please. thank you. if you have public comment on agenda item number two related to this commemorative street name designation for the 100 block of elm street, please come forward to the lectern at this time. and madam chair, it appears once again we have no speakers. okay, public comment on this item is now closed. supervisor preston, would you like to make a motion? thank you. yes, i'd like to, move to forward this item with recommendation to the full board on the motion that this resolution be forwarded with the recommendation of land use and transportation committee by, vice chair preston i. preston i, member peskin, i peskin i chair melgar i melgar i madam chair.

there are three eyes that motion passes. thank you, mr. clerk, let's please call item number three. agenda item number three is a hearing to receive presentations on the city's concrete plans to finance, underwrite, and or build the housing element. stated annual goal of 1748 extremely low income units or 13,981 extremely low income units total over eight years, including concrete financing mechanisms and progress benchmarks. okay, president peskin, thank you for introducing this item. the floor is yours. thank you. chair melgar, i thought it was high time that we had, a hearing about, how the city is doing and what our plans are relative to the provision and maintenance of extremely low income housing. we talk a lot about the mandates to

build 82,000 units. and we say in very high level terms, 46,000 of them are supposed to be affordable. but we don't spend a lot of time actually drilling down into, how we're going to provide it, where we have been, where we are going. and it's interesting to note that of the, 46,000 units that we are supposed to build over the next eight years that are are required to have some level of affordability, 17% of those are extremely low income, actually the same number as moderate income, extremely low income. and i think i've been impressed by how for almost as long as i've been around the city, has, worked very hard on low income and very low income. but ely or the, the term's for extremely low income, has been elusive. and the housing element actually

sets forth a number of policies and objectives, and i thought we should use today to see how we've done, where we're going and also to become more expert in certain things, your, your predecessor, madam chair, supervisor norman yee, our former board president. pioneered, some work around senior senior operating subsidies for extremely low income individuals. and, and these are folks who. i mean, it's funny, we hear a lot about people who cannot benefit, from moderate housing because they're making too much money, we also have instances where people are making too little money to acquire to, to be able to be eligible for, some of our affordable housing. and these are folks who are extremely, rent burdened, and it's

interesting. and we'll hear a little bit more about this from the department of, aging and disabilities, as well as from the mayor's office of housing and community development, but the sos program, the senior operating subsidy program, does not address, persons with disabilities. so i thought we should probably have some definitional, discussion on, as well, and i have a number of questions and i want to thank dos, unfortunately, kelly dearman is at jury duty, but rose jones is, is here and has a presentation, and we are also joined by dan adams and lydia ely from the mayor's office of housing and community development, and with that, colleagues, if you don't, have any questions, i thought this would be an opportune time. i mean, it's interesting. last year, i think san francisco built 2300 units of housing. if

we are to add at all income levels, if we are to adhere to the mandates around extremely low income housing, specifically , we would be required to build, maintain and subsidize 1748 units per year for eight years. so i don't want this to be lost in the conversation. and i thought it was important, that we highlight that and there are communities like the community that i represent in chinatown, where people are making, less than 30% of the area median income. as a matter of fact, people are making less than 20 and 15% of the area median income. so this is a remarkably, important typology for having a diverse and vibrant san francisco, so with that, it is my pleasure to turn it over to rose jones. good afternoon, supervisors. thank you for having me. my name is rose

jones. i'm the planning director for the human services agency. as supervisor, peskin noted, das executive director kelly dearman is serving with jury duty today, so asked me to be here on her behalf. my remarks are going to primarily focus on presenting some key population data points as requested, to help set the context for conversation about senior and disability renter households in the city, das is presenting this in light of our role as the city's lead agency, charged with coordinating services for older adults and adults with disabilities, and also because we facilitated the 2022 aging and disability affordable housing needs assessment report, which i know was presented to all of your offices last year and touches on some of the topics covered by today's conversation. so i will warn you, i'm going to be just presenting a lot of numbers. they come from the 2021 census estimates and i'm happy to answer any questions you have along the way or at the end. and that would be great. thank you,

and so we'll start with, just some foundational context. so in san francisco there are about 70,000 renter households that have either a senior and or a disabled adult. most of these, as you can see on the slide here, are households with a senior about 50, 50, 3000, and this is all households, all renter households at all income levels. i'm going to move forward and focus mostly on the extremely low income households in the city. and just a reminder , with extremely low income or ellie, we're talking about those earning 15 to 30% of area median income for a for a single person, this is annual income of about 16,000 to $32,000 per year. so, you're going to see this chart kind of grow as i talk through data points. we're starting here looking at all extremely low income households with a senior member or a disabled adult member. this includes owners or renters.

there are about 42,000 extremely low income households with a senior or disabled adult in the city today, we can advance next, so the vast majority of the entire population is extremely low income of renters. the majority are. well, let me. sorry. let me would you mind going back to the first slide, sheila. yeah. oh, so, so these are it's not an apples to apples because these are all responding to different data points that were requested. so it's not quite apples to apples, once we get to the next slide in the chart that builds out, they will be we will be funneling down. so if we let's pop to this one. thank you. so about we have 42,000 extremely low income senior and disabled households in the city. as you can see here. this includes both owners and renters and most of them have a senior member. about

34,000. next we're winnowing down to focus in on renter households. we see that most extremely low income senior and disabled households in the city are renters. 33,000 of the 42,000. we just looked at. and then finally, the final data point i'm bringing to you today is those facing rent burden as a reminder, rent burden means those who are paying more than 30% of their income for housing. it's about 24,000 households with a senior or disabled member. so again, as you noted earlier, supervisor peskin, the majority of extremely low income senior and disabled households in the city who rent are facing a rent burden. and those actually are all the data points i've brought today. happy to clarify if you have any questions. as. i don't know if my colleagues have any

questions, and i don't think that you're the appropriate person to ask this, but the rena numbers were those based on these numbers. yeah. i'm sorry i the regional housing need person, allocation. i wonder if there's no the answer. dan adams is saying we can get to it when you're up. dan i'll i'll hold that question. so i mean, i did ask this question of miss dearman when we got the presentation on the strategic plan that you completed last year, because it seems to me that we should be planning ahead for the demographic changes. it wasn't covered in this slide, but we do know. so, what we can expect in terms of the growth of population, i don't know if you've done the projections by income or by geography and how it relates to the housing element and the planning staff, but it should that it seems like we should be thinking that way. i certainly i certainly

understand that point. yes. i don't i don't have data today. i'm not sure actually, if we do have projections by income level , all i would have to look to colleagues in the department of planning around location. and then of course, what is not in this because it is not under your auspices is extremely low income families or individuals who are not disabled or seniors. correct it is possible. supervisor i'm sure that there are families counted. low income families counted. since we have many multigenerational households in the city and the numbers presented, but i do not have them broken out for you. yeah. thank you. okay, mr. adams. thank you, director adams. thank you. thank you so much. good to be here this afternoon. thank you. supervisors for this opportunity to talk about, the critical need for l.a. housing in our city,

again, i'm dan adams. i'm with the mayor's office of housing and community development. i'm joined by, my colleague, sheila nikolopoulos and lydia ely, who are also available to answer any questions. so let's get started. next slide. so first again in the in the vein of wanting to sort of create definitions for us to follow, what is an extremely low income household, we consider anyone who makes less than 30% of area median income, a low income household. so for one person family, that would be somebody who makes less than $31,000 a year and would translate into a studio rent of about $786. and then you can you can track down. but for people, we're looking at $44,950 annually. and a little over 1000 or $1100 per unit for a three bedroom apartment. so folks are

earning salaries. but given where our market is, needs significant subsidies in order to make those rent calculations work. next slide, we estimate there are approximately 66,000 of all sf renter households are ely. so again, this is all households not just senior disabled but focused on renter households. so about 66,000 renter households in san francisco. so the vast majority of these folks for obviously obvious reasons, are rent burdened. so again, as was referenced earlier, they're paying more than 30% of their income on rent, about 40% of these households are seniors, living off ssi benefits or other federal benefits, and unfortunately, we have to consistently report on the racial disparities when we're talking about poor folks in our city. folks of lower income, in this case, extremely low income, nearly half of african americans

in our city are ely, 30. more than 30% of american indian households, 23% latino, and 22% of asian. and 12% of our ely households include children. so a significant number of our families in san francisco are extremely low income. we're, supervisor peskin, you referenced the rena calculation again. 13,981 ely units are the rena goal established for the city or, reflecting the formula of our need over the next rena cycle, which is eight years. and this is, as you mentioned, 17% of the rena target. so in terms of our portfolio, we have about 14,400 units that attend to extremely low income households. most of these are smaller units studios, one bedrooms, sro units, with about 20% being for families, a couple of notes, a

lot of our ely portfolio is our loss what we called our loss portfolio local operating support program that supports the operating subsidies needed to support units for formerly homeless households. so about 25% of this portfolio is our loss portfolio. and then we have a number of sort of at the other end of the spectrum, a number of units which are, were subsidized in their acquisition or their creation, but they're really they don't receive an ongoing operating or rent subsidy. so they're referred to as unsubsidized ely units. my the final note i'll make on this slide is that there are programs that are not project based that help ely households. so these would be tenant based subsidy programs. we run a number of them, through mcrd. there's also the flexible subsidy program that hsh runs and section eight vouchers can be tenant based. so these would be above and beyond the unit count that you see in

this slide, where ely households are renting units out in the market and benefiting from subsidies to be able to do so. all right. i'm sorry, director adams, if i, if i could. do you have any numbers on that? you know, i have some numbers for the programs that we manage, and we can try and get some the it gets a little tricky just because, for instance, s, section eight vouchers, for instance, generally are target ely households, but the restriction is not they're not restricted to ely households. so to parse out how many voucher holders actually qualify as extremely low income versus low income, for instance, i don't have that data. i can say for our project, the, the project based vouchers that we place in our portfolio, we generally

target those two ely households so we can take best advantage of the federal subsidy. but the precise numbers i would need to follow up with you on to get you that that precise information. unfortunately, i don't have it today. i mean, it's always frustrating, right? that we have such a disjointed system that we have, you know, vouchers. and then there's the coordinated entry list. and that's right, there's the emergency voucher. and, you know, there's not one place where you can see the overview of what is going on. it's true. that's something that we should continually need to work on. i appreciate that question. so, subsidies, what are subsidies, the and this again, we're focused on operating or rent subsidies. these pay the difference between operating costs and what the tenant can pay in rent, so something like and we'll talk more about the senior operating subsidy that pays the difference between what a renter at 30% ami can pay and what the operating cost, roughly around 60% ami. so that's the that's the

differential. some subsidies, like the section eight program will pay the difference between i'm sorry to interrupt, dan, but you're saying that generally, as a rule, operating cost is about i mean, that's just a industry standard. it's what we observe in our own portfolio that in order to get to an operating income and of course, these things are in flux as insurance costs go up or other things happen. but i would say it's a it's a it's a local rule of thumb that in order to get to an operating breakeven, you're going to need to get to about a 60% ami rent. i'm going to look at the ely just to confirm that number. well, okay. that's the number, i'm sure of it. so the, the difference between that and a voucher subsidy, for instance, from the housing authority, which is not tagged to operating expenses, but rather what's called a fair market rent or a payment standard, which would in general be higher than, quite a

bit higher than an operating subsidy. excuse me? just the operating cost. and the benefit of that subsidy is that you can leverage debt typically if it's a project based subsidy. so i just want to sort of two jumps when we talk about rent subsidies or operating subsidies, one is getting from tenant paid rent to an operating break, even the other under programs like the section eight program that the housing authority runs, it gets you from a tenant paid rent to a fair market rent, basically a market rent or some approximation of a market rent, which is more than the operating cost of the building. and that's very advantageous because it provides a cash flow that either assists with the overall financial health of the building or allows you to leverage capital sources in the form of commercial debt. finally, subsidies can be, as i mentioned earlier, fixed to the unit, we call it a project based subsidy or can be a tenant based subsidy where the tenant has a

voucher and they can use it in the open market. so i just want to go through what we're doing, our existing sort of subsidy programs today. as i mentioned, the local operating subsidy program, was created in 2006. it's funded from general fund dollars. it funds currently around 2300 units at an annual budget of $36 million. these are generally placed within larger tax credit buildings and are become part of the financing of the overall affordable housing development, and the units are filled through referrals from the department of homelessness and supportive housing. and so as a part of the capital stack, if you will, it means the city can't walk away from that obligation. that is correct. that's exactly right. these these we consider these subsidies in perpetuity. they are appropriated annually, like all of our allocations are, but they are essential to the

ongoing operations and fiscal health of that building in for as long as we're housing, formerly homeless residents in that property. and does that number go down over time after the financing to build those buildings has been paid off, and you're now moving into the realm of the difference between the rule of thumb of 60% and the actual i would i don't think we have seen that tapering. i think you could probably model it out over time, the unfortunately what we see is increased operating expenses that make be a counter to a potential refinancing event, those refinancings can coincide with a need for capital repairs. and, so the, the, the, the, the capital infusion that would

happen at refinancing existing debt, often goes back into the building so you wouldn't see a drop in the loss subsidy. but $36 million is leading to subsidy for 2300 units. is that what you just said? that's correct. exactly right. and those 2300 are part of that 14,000? that's correct, the other operating subsidy that i've referred to it earlier, is the senior operating subsidy or sos program, much more recent, created through a pilot with general fund dollars, has more recently been funded through state funds, sb two funds that we've been able to use to focus again. and this was the what i was the point i was making earlier. this is particular to seniors, and it pays the difference between an ami rent pegged at either 15 or 25% ami

and a 60% ami rent. and so again, that 60% ami, reflecting a general rule of what an operating cost would be for the unit. we have 53 units in operation and about 200 in our pipeline. so we have a number of senior buildings that we anticipate using the subsidy source, moving forward in the near future. and relative to the math on that, 36 million for 2300 units, what's the math on the sos? well, we've got $52 million for about 200, 200 units, so it's but the 52 we capitalize these funds. it's a little bit of a different metric because while the while the loss program is an annual appropriation from our own general fund, these are sort of one time funds. these are not ongoing subsidies. so we're

we're taking these funds and we're they're one time funds and we're turning it into an ongoing or 15 year capital subsidy. so we're capitalizing a reserve that pays the difference over time. we will need to figure out in 15 years how to replenish that subsidy source in order for it to become an ongoing subsidy. so it's a little bit of apples and oranges. we can provide a more detailed breakdown of the way on a per unit basis, the subsidy works, but the 36 million is kind of ongoing commitment. it's 36 million this year and next year and the next year for the loss program. the 52 million are really one time funds that we're recasting into an operating subsidy. does that does that make sense? yeah other other forms of subsidy that we do, there is still federal subsidies that come through what used to be called shelter plus

care, and is now the continuum of care, and, they are administered by hsh and they are similar to our section eight project based voucher program. i i do think we should follow up and get you numbers of units. they're not, i don't think we have the information today. exactly how many continuum of care units are, but we can follow up with that information, likewise, the housing authority has manages the voucher program. the section eight voucher program, there are both, project based vouchers and tenant based vouchers. we have about 9300 project based vouchers in our portfolio. again, in general these are targeted toward ili households, but they're not restricted to ili households, unfortunately, i do not have the tenant based number in front of me today, again, this is a very powerful subsidy program. tenants pay between 30 and 40% of their household income and

you get a market rent associated with the subsidy. and, dan, that's not a part of the 14,000 or the project based part of that 14,000, number. it the, the 14,000 number does include at least a portion of those, i believe. that's correct. yes the 14,400 does include project based voucher units and not tenant based and not tenant based. correct. we do manage a number of other subsidy programs that lower the rent burden to something more sustainable for tenants, that served both ili and vley households, we have, small programs that serve hiv positive, households, seniors, people with disabilities and sro families, these are generally, again, tenant based subsidies that help tenants rent in the market. and we serve about 900

households annually. so those that is not part of our portfolio, but these are kind of an amalgamation of diffuse set of programs that that add up to about 900 additional households that are served, final slides, the challenges to ili unit production, i think even before the bullets you know, it just it takes money to both build and sustain the operations of these units. they don't support themselves. as i keep talking about, there's a there's a, a difference between the tenant paid rent and just basic operations of the building. so they require not only the capital subsidy up front, but also ongoing subsidy to maintain their affordability, we've seen dramatic cuts to federal operating subsidy programs. particularly section 202 and section 811. i think the section eight program has sustained its levels, but has not kept pace

with all the other needs across the country. and the section 202 and 811 programs have really been eviscerated. and that's a real loss. there is no state operating subsidy program. again i mentioned those sb $2, which we cast as an operating subsidy but are not actually, considered allocated as a as a traditional operating subsidy would be, and then finally, the tax credit program changed a few years ago to allow what's called income averaging. so it used to be all the units had to be at 60% ami or below. so we're now allowed to go up to 80% ami a higher income unit. and we can use that additional income to cross subsidize and reach deeper affordability, which is really advantageous. unfortunately, the math is such that an 80% ami unit just doesn't get you that many deeply affordable ili units, like the amount of additional cash flow, is not so substantial that you're just going to you're not going to get

significant numbers of ili units in a property, finally, just, you know, in basic math, and i should i should say that the rhna goals come to us, from the state without without, any, any recognition of current financial feasibility or funding. they don't come to us recognizing interest rate environments or construction costs or availability of funding. they're just goals that are established. so when we look at what it would cost just in pure dollars and cents to build the 13,000 plus units over the next eight years, we apply a rough estimate of our per unit subsidy. we arrive at a little more than $4 billion just from the capital side. and that would presuppose in that calculation that the state and federal dollars that we use as sources of leverage or leverage

sources of funding would be available in the same abundance as our own subsidy. that makes sense. we kind of calculate a for every dollar we put in, we get $2 of state and federal subsidy. so that presupposes that those subsidies would also be there. and then from a operating side, we calculate about 10 to $15,000 annually would be needed to subsidize the operations of those units over 15 years, that would be an additional $2.6 billion of subsidy over that time period. and you can see the kind of, assumptions we made about, in cost increases. so it scales the challenge for you when you think about, what it would take to meet those goals and we can make similar assertions about some of the other goals that the state

has provided through its rena allocation. so i will stop there. i'm available to answer any questions you may have. dan, just through the chair, you indicated that there's some amount of available but unspent senior operating subsidy money. that was what would grow it to 200 beds, but was currently at 55. can you drill down into that ? that's right, it's available, but it's allocated. so we have a pipeline of projects that are ready to deploy that subsidy source. those are we actually have a again, an abundance of senior developments that are in our pipeline. some are waiting right now to get their state allocation through the latest round of, asic awards that are, are pending. so those subsidies will be deployed just as soon as the as the financing is secured for each of those projects. so they're, they're waiting in the wings. and then relative to the

contemplated barrier housing finance authority general obligation bonds. do you know or is it even as prescriptive as to how many ili units it would provide for? it does not. it is not prescriptive to that level. i do not believe we i mean, i'm almost certain it is actually provides a lot of flexibility on the part of the local jurisdictions, and we will be engaging with you all and with stakeholders in the development of a boffa expenditure plan. beginning sort of late summer with the soonest we can present a plan, ratified plan to, to boffa is the end of february 2025. so we're going to we're going to start that process in a few months. and certainly, attending to the needs of ili households will be part of that work. and then, dan, just relative to the policy actions in the housing element, is that

something your department grapples with or just lives in the housing element, or how does that work, it's i guess both. i mean, the housing element sort of is within the purview of the planning department, but certainly we are the one of the principal agents, agencies tasked with executing on the housing element. so we refer to the housing element, goals and priorities and policies that are listed there. and are asked by hcd to report on progress toward those, policies and goals. so it's a it's a partnership with the planning department. got it. and i mean a lot of the recommendations are policy actions are things that we're doing like the senior operating subsidy, is there a comprehensive plan about how we're going to build these 13,900 and whatever it is, 13,981 units? or is it just kind of the aspirations that are set out in those policy actions? i

think aspirations is the right word. i think we're the, we're if the if the, subsidy needs weren't so great, if we were the, the, the, the primary, the, i guess the, the precedent condition that we would need to make a detailed and concrete plan for building these units would be having a sufficient capital and operating resources to undertake those, those plans, so i would say currently what we want to do is protect our existing resources, ensure that we have ongoing subsidies through the general fund for our loss commitments and increasing those commitments over time, continuing expanding our senior operating subsidy as we've been able to do with the state dollars, and continually advocating for additional resources at the regional, state

and federal level, to support the myriad of programs that we run, including, for extremely low income households and the sos dollars. originally, if my recollection, were general fund dollars. and then later on came state dollars that augmented those. that is correct. that's exactly right. and relative to a local commitment that would help send us on our way. what would that look like in an annual all local subvention? i'm sorry, i'm not sure i understand your question. i mean, relative to i mean, today we've kind of laid out the need, laid out what we have, laid out what the state goals which may or may not be based in science or need, but i think the need is probably the delta between the 66,000 and the 14,000, although it's not a total apples to apples comparison because some of them are families and what have you,

but if we were to bridge that need, i mean, there's your $4 million capital outlay and your $2.6 million operating outlay, billion, billion dollars billion. yeah, that's what i meant, but in terms of making a demonstrable difference, like the sos program that president ye and the board invested in like the now $50 million from the state, what what would be a reasonable annual amount that would make a difference? well, that is hard for me to, to speculate on. i mean, i think the unfortunately, as as is true with so many of the budget issues that i deal with here in the city of san francisco, that the need really outpaces reasonableness in many cases. and so i couldn't even speculate on a kind of reasonable number. i can only assert that there's a need out there, for sure. and these numbers, i think reinforce that. but i'm sorry, president,

one of your slides had 175 million a year over the next 15 years. 2.7 billion is was what you said correct? that's that's yes. but you also said that we currently have vouchers out there in the world that are covering some of that need. well, the it's a little but we don't know exactly how much. well, it's or we're just not counting those in the. well this is and it gets back to perhaps and i, supervisor peskin's question about how the state calculates the need, need. so the regional housing needs assessment and the allocation that comes to us is an assessment that the state conducts. and it's based on both, their evaluation of existing need and not the precise numbers i've shown

today. i'm almost certain. but some numbers that they've gathered about san francisco's needs today relative to different income categories. l'ively you know, you know, the for, low income and then above moderate, moderate and above moderate, and actually they don't. yeah. i think it's just really there's a subcategory of ellie in in any case four categories, and so they assess the level of need and then they based on population growth and other kinds of factors project out to additional need that would be created. i'm afraid i, i can't provide you with a detailed summary of how that need is created, but if we take that at face value that their numbers are are exactly right and accurate, and we were then just to back into overall costs of reaching that goal that they prescribed, those are the

numbers that i presented at the end. the 475 exactly a year, so again, i think the level of precision i think our numbers are more precise than theirs were. so whether they were taking into account a little bit of our vouchers or not, i can't really speak to, but i think it's fair to say that, if in in the allocation that we've received, the presumption is that this would be in addition to what we are doing today, that would that that's what underlies the numbers we received. i'm not speaking to their accuracy, but i think the assumption that undergirds those numbers is that this would be additional to our current capacity and not to put too fine a point on it, but at about 14,000 units, which is what the state is suggesting, demanding mandating over eight years, that would in essence be a doubling of what we currently have. that's right. yeah. and could i ask one more question

before, and that is you mentioned that there are several projects in the pipeline, for senior housing in particular, how many of those, need a subsidy in order to sort of move forward and be feasible? we generally consider that any senior development that we have in our pipeline will need senior operating subsidy, that given, you know, i mentioned this income averaging that we can use in order to reach deeper affordability that, strategy or technique is more challenging when we look at seniors just because the, the, the, the, the incomes of seniors are just generally lower. so it's almost impossible for us to get that above operating cost, income generating unit, that's very awkwardly said. but, you know, a higher income unit in a senior building. so just to maintain

the operations of a, of a building, we generally plan on supplementing the capital subsidies with some form of senior operating subsidy. now that again could be some section eight's get in there or some other forms of subsidy. but the senior operating subsidy is proven to be a critical piece to that financing puzzle. supervisor preston, thank you. chair mcguire, and thank you, president peskin, for calling this hearing. and also, you know, i will say that this is, some, some of the need for clarity on these issues. and i appreciate director adams trying to, you know, hone in on some numbers here with us, we i called for a hearing back in 2022. i think we held it in in may of 2022 with planning department and moseyed on this issue of the of the gap then and i think you had some i would say

maybe hearings were sort of talking past each other a little where i think we were trying to, from the board's perspective, get at similar to some of your questions. it's like really trying to hone in on that gap, whether or not we have the resources to meet it. right. it just an acknowledgment that we've got to know the scope of the of the challenge. right. and i'm not i mean, honestly, all due respect to anyone, i'm not interested in whether the solutions seem reasonable. like you know, the idea that the need outpaces reasonable, like that's that's a policy choice. like, to me, the solutions are reasonable . all if they provide a home for everyone and they're unreasonable if they don't. and we just got to figure out how to do that, so i get the political realities that may or may not allow us to raise those kind of funds, but i think it's very helpful to have, like that roadmap. and i think we do that in other contexts. right like, we you know, i always push mta to like funding constraints aside, what does full service look like so that we have a world class transit system for

homelessness? we have our various reports that ten year plan to end homelessness. we have the, you know, home by the by the bay plan with like that concrete. and i think it would be really helpful for us and i think you're giving pieces of that. but for us to have from ocd and planning, now that we have this housing element commitment, that roadmap of what it would take. and that's a challenge, frankly, to all of us , to the mayor, to the board of supervisors, to our to the governor, right, and to the federal government around like if we're serious about housing and this is what it looks like without that, i feel like we're often a little in the dark of trying to figure out and too easily, often convinced that a chunk of money because it doesn't solve everything. you know, may not be, you know, worth the effort. so you know, but i do want to point out and again, thank you, president peskin. like this issue of ellie specifically. you know, when we held the hearing in 2022, in the slides from back then in the

presentation showed that was five years of data and showed that, you know, it produced in terms of new units, 2344 for very low income, 1838 for low income, but for extremely low income over that five year period, 377 units, right. so i mean, this is the and i think you've spoken to what the practical challenges are on how how we fund it. but this in terms of issues that are true crises right now, figuring out how we fund that gap for ellie is absolutely critical because those units simply will not get built if we don't figure out that side of it. so, those were more comments than questions. i do have a question, of in terms of things that are were not part of the presentation that i would love to hear your comments on, one is something you and i have discussed and the board passed a

resolution on specifically on the faircloth turad program. i appreciate and share your concerns and comments about what is effectively been federal disinvest in housing, low extremes for low income people, you know, we did have a shift in terms of the rent augmentations that the federal government offers through what's known as the faircloth turad program, which which specifically offers long term rental subsidies for this very population. shamann. so can you share your thinking around the city's orientation to that program, and whether that can be layered on with some of these other things to help us get more long term funding for ellie units? yes, i can i mean, it is i appreciate the question. i mean, the faircloth turad program, which is a new program and it has actually not been used by many housing authorities throughout the country, but it is one of the few bright lights

within a fairly dark federal funding for cities in general, and certainly funding for affordable housing, kind of, purview. we're we're excited to be coordinating with the housing authority on developing a faircloth turad plan and moving forward properties, both to take take advantage of, the rent augmentation allowances that are may get extended but are currently scheduled to expire in september, and working with the housing authority to ensure that there's, local budget authority that can fully take advantage of those rent augmentation, opportunities. but beyond that, even the base, what we call the baseline faircloth turad program , which would provide, a program, a, a subsidy, again, that doesn't, doesn't meet our operating cost needs, but would

be additional to what the city otherwise would be contributing, either through senior operating subsidy or lost subsidy. so it it it can be a really important and we hope it will be a really important component of our work moving forward. there are a number of complexities to using it, not surprising. it's a hud program. so it's not like falling off a log, but, for the right developments, i think it is an exciting additional funding tool, and we are eager to pursue it. great. thank you. and appreciate your, collaboration on that and look forward to continuing to work with you. and i will reiterate what i've urged privately. and also, when i spoke to it publicly, just that i think some other cities, boston especially, have really taken the lead in trying to seize upon that opportunity, especially with the rent augmentations that were announced last year. and i just

want to encourage both your department and the housing authority to similarly, get it, put that sort course out there more to see who comes forward to use it. i think it is, as you say, it's not a simple program, but we've checked in with a lot of potential developers who are just unaware it even exists, and so i think it would be very helpful, like boston did a, a request for proposals, not for formal applications, but just for request for quotes. i think they called it, and, and as you know, we can reserve those units without fully committing to them, reserve those subsidies. so, look forward to, to, to working with you on that. thank you, and other and this is, more comment looking forward, just want to add to your list of subsidies of, of subsidies, one that is not yet available but will be starting next year, and that is many folks rallied

behind the empty homes tax which has is in in effect this year. prop-m from 2022 is in effect this year. and 50% of the revenues from prop-m are dedicated to rental subsidies, specifically targeting under 50% of ami. so covering, so for very low income covering ely but not exclusively for ely, we don't, you know, anyone's guess. i've seen very broad range of how much money that will be, but that will be part of the mix starting next year as well. yes. we're excited to get some data on what that revenue source looks like. thank you, thank you. reminder madam chair, before we open up to public comment, is there any inter-departmental planning department memo? hcd dos working group do you guys convene together? is there i mean, i

guess we as policy makers and i think we all know that the need outstrips the resources that we currently have in place. we're all at a high level knowledgeable that we are under an admonition from the state to produce more. i think we've been actually doing better than many municipalities in actually producing more, but is there any set of policy options that executive branch departments and collaboration with one another to present to decision makers like? here's a menu of options you could dig down into your pockets and set aside a certain amount of money you can, do other things. you can access the kind of, you know, federal funding that supervisor preston's talking about. you can, we can. i mean, i believe that actually, there's a bunch of portable, tenant based section eight that doesn't get utilized every year for a number of reasons, how do we take advantage of that? is there any centralized kind of. these are

these are the policy options, choices, priorities for taking a comprehensive run at this. i would, so i guess a couple of things. one is in general, i think we collaborate really effectively with our partnering, agencies, the planning department particular, but dos as well. i'm relatively new in this position, so i'm not i don't know of all the platforms in which our staff interact on a regular basis. so i'm not sure i can provide a comprehensive answer to your question, i will say that i don't need to collaborate. i just want you to give me a set of choices. yeah i, i, i would say that in general, the, the ethos of the mayor's office of housing, community development is to get as deep affordability as we can. and so, the and i think we do across our programs do a really good job of attending to a diverse set of needs. so i

think, you've called out this hearing, has called out the challenges to getting to that really deep affordability that ely, level. and so but there's not a lot of planning that we need to do in order to understand what it will take to get to that ely level, i don't, just to be frank, need a bunch of meetings with department heads to figure out the comprehensive plan, like it. so it's a it's a fairly simple equation from my perspective, and it's one that's based on the fact that i think in general, i'll i'll just reiterate, i think we do have a lot of good programs and a lot of strength in our city to meet these needs. and what we continue to need to do is be creative about identifying sources and opportunities to fully exploit these programs that we have in place. in other words, it's just

about financial resources. that's correct. thank you all. thank you. thank you, director adams, with that, mr. clerk, let's please go to public comment on this item. thank you, madam chair. land use and transportation will now hear public comment on agenda item number three. if you have public comment for agenda item number three, please come forward to the lectern at this time by previous arrangement through office of civic engagement and immigrant affairs. we also do have interpretation assistance today for speakers of spanish and chinese. and if while folks are getting up to get into line, we could invite those interpreters to come forward to the microphone for a moment to just provide a brief introduction to their services. thank you. buenas tardes. a todos soy angelica perez. interpret para el espanol estar aqui para conveniencia no duden in buscar me study aqui para ayudarles. gracias

congresswoman, you got one. fabio. eagle hi. how many? thank you both so much for being here. and for your assistance. let's have the first speaker, please. good afternoon. supervisor my name is manson leong from self-help for the elderly. i'm here on behalf of 40,000 or maybe 20,000 elderly in the san francisco to urge you to sponsor the bill for the airline, for one simple reason. most of the people that are looking for eli bill is the people who have served every one of us, either collect our dishes when we finish eating, or are in our, clothing in a laundromat that they make very, very little money, which they cannot afford to even pay the basic rent. without this, they literally have to suffer through the elderly time left with whatever

time they have. just give you, just give you an example. last week, self-help, working with supervisor chen on 4200 gary, just a 32nd advertising self-help for the elderly housing hotline was under siege. we are overly over overwhelmed. we got over a thousand calls between now and then. i still keep coming. so you can you can see the demand. there is tremendous. and thank you again on the behalf of our elderly for your consideration. thank you. thank you so much for sharing. thank you for sharing your comments. can we have the next speaker please? the two of you may each go to one of the microphones. lady hong ho wai leung wing ho. go zhang zhang ling, wong gong sang sam. chin daca. wu ying sam. sing y lo

yang dazhao heng chang yan shi hui. gandalf good afternoon, board of supervisor. my name is wayne holland. i'm the president of the community tenant association, and i speak on behalf of our 3000 members to call for creating more truly affordable housing for senior families and people with disability. value chain. jiuwei tong dew point joseph until finally, your husband wuyun yee, jenn san juan, what have you done for kilgore? sup de yodok daniel, jake, tom yao chow chong tong zhong yao yao wu ying beyonce. phay seng hui. sam. chow. low. yen. oak yasuda tong ji ho yee. zhang up. ju dan. wong. wang. bay. ho. dong fung. wong. lo yang. okay joe. gum. you khao man gai. ruyin. puk lo

yang cajucom. wang. wang ku chai yee yang yang yang wei to come. wan so yin yang. so you chichi koichi mo so chiga lo yang yang dan maggie d.o.j. so you tiktok gobi a month ago, to conduct a survey of our members and find that more than half our members have been applying for senior housing or affordable housing over ten years without success. some members even won the lottery for affordable unit. but then they learned that the rent charge equally or even exceeds their total income. also, we thought we had learned that most of the city affordable housing is not truly affordable. the system must change. geroy yee choi. georgie. okay, how y'all doing? oh, yes. oh, yes. oh dang. hi. hi. gao hui bin, do

enjoy. sam wang yi luigi. lo yang jin. fong swee kow yingzhi yang yo condo. yang sing y lo yan ga yasuhiro kantaloaban. tan wei hoi bong de god. enjoy. so you can talk to so young. hello. yang hui yi si lo yang yu feng shui hao tong zhong yao yao hodo lo yang yang y ding ding yi louis zhou. so you deny to my xiong lao tzu yao san lorenzo dong woman. dong zhang. yang. yang wei li. chang san. cheng. killgore sounding. lo. yang tan wei cheng lin. lu yi ding doi tung bu hongbo. yongsan dong dong. chan. yang li hui yang

hao. kweichow. moutai san. soto. lo yang yang. dong. jie. giacobbi fauci. yang. ty. lawson. yi. gu enjoy. lo yanga ding doi lo yang okay. chang fang. yi wei shi fu yuanhui hui. pay me ugandan. lee dong gu. syverson. choi daichi doordash tam shamann. come okay. thank god. go. samsung jarmon. lady hong yi hui. go on. hui goi bin d.o.j. in 2019 cta and other in this room five for the and one for the sls senior housing subsidy program, which makes sense. senior housing more affordable. but since then, the city has not contributed enough funding to make this program

succeed in should be. we have not seen the change that thousands of senior needs. as a result, we have thousands of tenants who are just getting older waiting for the affordable housing. but we're getting older is harder to climb, to climb the stairs in the building without an elevator and hard to pay for the high rent. where we live now, we cannot wait forever. one of our board member mothers apply for a senior housing unit for many years and after year waiting there was still no response. it was until after his mother passed away that he received a notice that she was accepted into the senior housing. that this model of dream of this is sad story reflect the situation most senior waiting for the senior housing in this city. our city government should strive for prevent more this tragedy from happening. once again, thank you for all the support supervisor. give me a chance to express our 3000 cta member voice and i'm hoping all of you will find a solution to make this change. thank you. thank you, mr. liang

d.o.j, next speaker, please. i have a photo here. go hang ho. go. jiang ji lan. hi l.h.c. welcome to go away. when you see icu. layla kum chee something on my. yan. my sometime hope so. come tiktok. lee hoi. good afternoon. all the board of supervisor. my name is dylan and i'm the one the board member of the community tenant association . today i'm representing one of our honorary board member, mr. leland ganzi, to share her thoughts and express her personal story as she cannot attend due to health, reason.

she see to holding tight supply chain lately. tunga yang j&j janet yellen shanghai. she guangdong uyghur tang wei zhang zhihao lei tai chi yang dew point min joo sao big chain ye juzar ye somehow you go, go, go to come. say good night. some of you may be familiar with miss lee. ten years ago, she and her husband stood up for fighting eviction. fighting against eviction from their home. after a long struggle, mr. lee were forced to leave their home. they end up renting a small unit at a higher rent, which was difficult for them tong

young baby ching chu. cheng fong. sifu tiktok yang hong followed poncho soto, but kung cheng ping. ching chuan, kang ho fu, dongfanghong jae hong followed coxswain pong chuan, dan galligan, lee ping pong. in response to the lee family eviction and the eviction of the other tenants, the city created a law to help tenants unjustly evicted to move into affordable housing. the law does help some the tenant, but the law failed to help them. miss lee family. nine lei tai but she a young lady lola chung venmo tang kam

yan hui chang moo go home tonight. tang china to pay i don't. yao tai chi. my wife so loyal to my god. chi li tai chi. kung fu. buttigieg kowtow ho venmo. for several years, miss lee tried to use this law to find affordable housing. she tried very hard. but everywhere she applied, she was told she did not earn enough income. the lee family was never able to find affordable housing because the system is not designed to serve extremely low income seniors and families. tiktok lee, taking one home. again, my

ching fong, kim tong tai chi minh and gao yan took again. so thank you. thank god they come. yun chi san. cheng fong okay. thank you for sharing your comments. could we could we have a interpretation of those final comments? then we need to move on to the next speaker, please. okay. so today mr. lee suffered from alzheimer disease, which prevent her from speaking to you directly from living her family while her fight for justice is end. we continue to fight for ongoing struggle to secure housing. board of supervisor, i urge you to not letting situation like mr. lee happen again. please understand that the proposal design for all model for a home for their family. thank you. thank you for sharing your comments. next speaker, please. alejo drinking

at times. polystichum bqe zheng yi. webex yin yang wah fauci tai johnson fong welcome. zheng yi tong li fung hong good. johnson. fong gunnarsson miya. go mama. song tai ganga. ogawa ppe. tai. san. sam fong yun thai. fong kishore kumar. cheng liang. fong mo yan. see my chin. yim. models on sigurdson. cheng ho futan. fong vanderhoff. damn. fong. fukuda yoshino. sean. morrison. cheng ho tung. fong fong. thank you. solomon chew gum. hi. my name yam i got chu kang song dong young or yap william on hong yi tong or zheng something. i want to thank all the lady. lady couple for interpretation

for her. dear supervisor. peskin, melgar and preston. my name is bishan xu and i am a resident of chinatown. i live in an sro with my family and i am here today to share with you the challenges we face as a mother. i want to provide a better living environment for my child. however, the expensive rental prices forced us into these poor living conditions. sharing a kitchen, bathroom and shower with 25 other households is not only inconvenient, but also can compromise our privacy and dignity. i've tried applying for affordable housing, but the rent is still unaffordable once we browse online and discover that the rent for a one bedroom apartment suitable for a three person household is $2,196 a month, this amount, this amount is exceedingly unaffordable as they constitute the majority of my family's monthly income. i urge you to advocate real

solution for affordable housing supporting extremely low income families like mine. your support could make a difference in our life of countless extremely low, low income families. thank you for your time and consideration. thank you for sharing your comments. let's have the next speaker please. good afternoon. my name is amalia laventure and i'm a housing community advocate at the asian law caucus, i'm a multigenerational d10 tenant and have also faced similar issues with my family being able to stay in san francisco, our housing program, predominantly but not exclusively, serves asian and asian american tenants, which is the largest group in san francisco at or below the poverty line. we provide in language and culturally competent representation to fight eviction and displacement. while we understand protecting tenants against bad actors is necessary and indispensable, we found our clients desperately need more affordable housing options. we

are in such a housing affordability crisis, our clients can't even afford the city's so-called affordable housing, which was created for them. last week, i had a conversation with one of our senior clients who's applying for a displaced tenant housing preference voucher. she spoke with me about how unaffordable all of the units on dahlia were for her family of five, the unaffordable affordable units were impossible to obtain, and it would make them more rent burden than they were when they were displaced from their rent controlled unit. having that conversation of their contemplation of squeezing into a crowded and uncomfortable market rate unit, or leaving san francisco altogether, is a conversation we have constantly. the housing element requires san francisco to build nearly 14,000 units for extremely low income households. most of our affordable housing is set for 30 to 50% ami, leaving out many low

income seniors, working families and persons with disabilities who are essential community members of our vibrant and diverse city. we urge the city to put our most vulnerable tenants first to prioritize the positive impacts of subsidies like senior operating subsidies, and to provide concrete plans to meet our stated housing goals for extremely low income families and seniors. thank you. thank you so much for your comments. let's have the next speaker, please. as the members of the board of supervisors, everyone has a story to tell. and today i'm going to tell you a glimpse a little bit about mine. we all expect to have challenges. and you never expect from me walking to have a disability last summer in 2023, i found myself unexpectedly hospitalized at zuckerberg hospital and led to a

diagnosis of a disability. this marked a significant turning point to my life, one that i never anticipated and nor prepared for in the aftermath of my diagnosis, i embarked on the journey marked by medical treatment, disability benefits, and the unfamiliar territory of relying on others for support. my disability benefits amount is $440 every two weeks, while my rent for a below market rental unit studio is $1,390. this financial strain has added a considerable amount of stress during during my recovery process. i extend my gratitude to julianne ball, a compassionate housing counselor at bishop. through my most difficult times, julianne has been a support providing access to necessary programs and accommodations, including assistance with applications during periods of light

sensitivity that made it difficult for me to use electronic devices. it is thanks to julianne support and encouragement that i stand before you today. currently i'm undergoing under medical treatment and therapy, contending the side effects of medication. the only work my body can handle right now is a part time job, as advised by medical professionals and the department of rehabilitation. but finally, i'm able to work and this is a necessary step towards my health and independence. as we delivered on matters of housing development, i urge you to consider the diverse needs of individuals in our communities. thank you for sharing your comments with the committee. we do have to move on to the next speaker. okay. thank you very much. our next speaker will need to use the microphone to my left as she is in a wheelchair. yeah, okay. buenas tardes, my name is brenda

cordova, soy libre y presidente de la mesa directiva confederacion y dentro de me. experiencia a venido haciendo aplicaciones para adultos mayores. familia de bajo ingreso con disability y cuando logran la lotteria es de papel no pueden calificar por falta de sucedio a nombre de soy me trabajo, verdad trabajar la comunidad is a necesita sucedio urgente mas en esta ciudad sanatoria casi dinero de donde proveer las necesidades de la familia. gracias. good afternoon. my name is brenda cordova. i'm a member of a housing directive. i am in charge of helping, adults with, necessities apply for housing.

low income people and people with disabilities. but when the lottery comes around for them to be able to qualify, they can't qualify because there is a lack of subsidy. and that is why my work is really to work in the community. we need that subsidy urgently. more so in this sanctuary city where there is a lot of money and that has the ability to provide for those necessities of the families. thank you. thank you so much for the comments and for the interpretation. let's have the next speaker, please. nombre. maria martinez. go president de la mesa leader de la misma. estoy aqui como adulto. mayor porque sabemos los adultos mayores si viven tranquilos confirma menos yo creo subsidio seria beneficioso para esa tranquilidad para cannot see compramos comida pagamos renta o

compramos medicina. gracias good afternoon. my name is maria moreno. i also am a member of day of action. i wanted to let you know that a older adults need to have access to this subsidy, so that they can be calm, and so that they will not get, they will not contract illnesses and become sick as much. we need to have that tranquility so we can have, excuse me, we need to have that subsidy so that we can eat and we can pay the rent and we can buy our medications. thank you. thank you so much for your comments. let's have the next speaker, please. okay my name is maria, a leader in action in la bahia. importante sucedio por los adultos mayores. tenemos una relacion muy pequena cada ano no

area e no no alcance para cubrir nosotros como adulto mayor amo por todo esta ciudad y merecemos vivir nuestros ultimos dias con dignidad. gracias okay. good afternoon. my name is maritza aviles, leader of action here it that the subs that we have this have who have been retired don't have any variety in their fixed income every year. and it's not enough to make it to the end of the month to cover rent and all our expenses. and it goes up every day. as older adults, we have brought a lot to this city. we deserve to live our last days in in dignity. thank you. thank you so much for your comments. next speaker, please de la parte

de la mesa directiva miembro leader de esta. yo siento esto es una grande ayuda el subsidio y aqui al igual en el chevelle lucero por este subsidio de las ciudades de cara vivienda accesible y no era asi. asi es el subsidio resuelve una parte de la del problema y asi mismo. no ver mas desplazados personas mayores condado su trabajo en esta ciudad y contenido de aqui mismo y algo muerto arrimadas con sus hijos en otros lados. me alegra mucho y me esta lucha. gracias. good afternoon, my name is faris sabbah. i am also a member of the collective. i want to let you know that we are here

to take advantage of this subsidy. subsidy? that would be very beneficial for our peace of mind, so that we don't have to decide what, what, what we pay for and what we don't for in terms of rent in this city, they said that there was accessible, housing and it wasn't like that, and not until the subsidy resolved the problem at 1296 shotwell street. and a lot of people have had to leave the city and, live with their children under circumstances that they may not have wanted to. thank you. thank you so much for your comments. thank you once again for the interpretative assistance. can we have the next speaker, please ? hello. thank you. my name is betty traynor and i'm with senior and disability action. i want to especially thank supervisor peskin for calling this hearing today. it's so, so important, at senior and disability action, annually, we choose priorities. our members

choose those priorities. and every year it's been including, of course, this year the top priority has been affordable but particularly truly affordable housing. we have people who come to our office looking for housing. we show them a list that we get monthly and they just hand it back to us because they see that this list of senior affordable housing, that's what the list is about. they just say, i'm sorry, but i can't afford this. so we know we need to advocate at all levels. at the federal level, the state level. but we particularly need consistent funding at the local level. so please, let's work together so we can have funding here in san francisco for extremely low income housing. thank you. thank you for sharing your comments. let's have the next speaker, please. hey. good afternoon. i'm emily van loon,

an associate director of housing development at tenderloin neighborhood development corporation, and i just really wanted to reiterate that in order to build these early units, we need a committed operating subsidy. we heard earlier this afternoon that only units targeted to 60% ami and above cover the cost of operations. and at tdc, we're seeing that due to rising costs, we increasingly have to look at adding units above 60% ami in order to make projects financially feasible. we're seeing that this issue of kind of the mismatch between rents and operating costs are especially acute within our aging sro portfolio and in our older buildings, where average incomes are around 15 to 20% ami. and for new construction projects, we have lost up to support our elderly households. but that subsidy only covers supportive housing. so many

individuals and families that have a need for low rents but are not coming through coordinated entry are effectively kind of left out of the equation. so in short, without a consistent source of funding, we can't build deeper affordability into our projects despite the need for these units and despite the our desire to provide these units. yeah. and if i may, just before the next speaker, i just what's so troublesome is this notion that you have to become homeless. so you have to move from extremely low income to homeless before you can become housed again, which is what's so insane about the way this whole thing works or doesn't work. can we have the next speaker, please? i just had to get that off my chest. hello. my name is linella and i'm an assistant intake coordinator here at ycd and a proud native

of bayview hunters point in san francisco. i'm deeply passionate about advocating for extremely low income housing for the black community. growing up in the bayview hunters point, i've seen firsthand the struggles that many black families face in finding safe and affordable housing. despite efforts to provide affordable housing options, many in the black communities are still left behind. they are the most underserved and disadvantaged, unable to afford even what is deemed affordable in our city. the need for extremely low income, low income housing is a dire. families are forced to make impossible choices between paying for housing and meeting other basic needs like food and healthcare. the cycle of poverty is trapping generations in the cycle of disadvantage. it's time for a real change. we cannot continue to ignore the disproportionate impact that the lack of affordable housing has on the black community. they deserve access to safe, stable

and affordable housing just like anyone else. we are dealing with clients that currently live in the tls who are scared to leave out their front door because of the crimes and the drugs that's taking place down there and cannot afford a simple, low income housing. as an advocate, i'm committed to raising awareness about this issue and fighting for policy change and prioritize the needs of the most vulnerable among us, which is in eli population. it's time for us to come together as a community and ensure that no one is left behind. thank you. thank you for sharing your comments. let's have the next speaker, please. good afternoon, chair melgar and supervisor preston and peskin. my name is leilani chang. i'm relatively new to ycd, and i just want to speak on behalf of the community that we serve and what i've been witnessing so far. and i hear some stories that are heartbreaking. so i would like to paint the picture.

besides, everyone that we've heard from their stories of what our brown community looks like as well, ycd is pretty much serving them, besides everyone that we've heard, we're talking about our essential workers. we're talking about the people that are, you know, serving in, our retail workers, our food service workers, our people that are working at some point, working in other people's homes to help families with their elders and things of that nature. and it presses my heart because there's a lot what i'm just now discovering is that we're unable to provide them, as we heard from some other people that were talking here, the eli community can't even afford what is considered affordable housing, and i'm talking to single parents. i'm talking to even single fathers that, you know, we're talking this this, income bracket that they show is talking about the growth. it's

not actually real time. the money that they actually take home. and so when you see that amount, they're taking a portion of that and they're bringing it home. and you have people that all of a sudden is dealing with medical expenses that came out of nowhere. and you're dealing with people that are paying for child care services. all of these expenses is putting them in compromising and depressed living situations. and people don't want to live in these situations. so you know, hopefully you'll see more of me and i can provide more information. but i hope that you continue to support or sponsor this program. and thank you for supervisor for sponsoring this or bringing this up to our attention. thank you for sharing your comments. can we have the next speaker, please? hello. hi. my name charles burns, and i'm from the bayview district. and what's affordable affordable to

me where i is we can't afford nothing really. and me up here, i'm kind of nervous, but i have a voucher. i have a section eight voucher. and i was shot and i received a voucher, and it took me two and a half, three years to receive one. and i was discouraged because i needed really help, it's me and my son. and they was closing the door on me. and a lot of stuff was hard for me. and i just had to cope with it and just do what i could to try to make a way for my son. but it's still hard. it's hard, and it's a lot of stuff that we need help with as well as our community, because a lot of stuff is expensive and sometimes, you know, it ain't going to hurt the help. thank you. thank you for sharing your comments. let's have the next speaker, please. hi. my name is

alicia. i'm a program coordinator at ycd and a proud native of bayview community in san francisco. i am compelled to advocate for the allocation of affordable housing funding for extremely low income households. i see firsthand the struggles faced by extremely low income populations, particularly within the black community who come to us seeking supportive housing services to escape unsafe living conditions. i've been personally affected by these same conditions. as a single mother of three, i know what it's like to feel trapped in a cycle of poverty and violence. i was only able to escape because of a section eight voucher that was passed down to me, providing me with a lifeline out of the chaos. i've watched my community feel like a war zone where friends and families are killed and every day feels like a battle for survival. instead of leaving for good, i came back to offer support to others who are in need of help finding a way out. but the ely households are

forced to stay in these environments because there are no options in san francisco. i try to help serve the community, but the options are almost nonexistent. unless one of the magical subsidies come through for them. recently i had a privilege of assisting a single mother who had the opportunity of receiving a section eight subsidy after being on the waitlist for five years. when she finally received her keys to her, to her place outside of the neighborhood plagued by violence , she expressed her joy and relief. it's a feeling everyone should have the chance to experience and not to suffer violence for years, waiting to be freed. our work isn't just about securing housing, it's about restoring hope and dignity to those who have been marginalized and forgotten. every success story, like the one i just shared, reaffirms my commitment to fighting for a future where every individual has the opportunity to thrive in a safe and stable home. thank you. thank you for sharing your comments. let's have the next speaker, please. hello, my name is robin robinson, and i'm a

little shy, but, i represent ycd. they help me a lot with, you know, housing that i'm trying to go through and stuff, and i really appreciate them, but i just like to tell you that my name is robin robinson, and i have been in san francisco for 20 years in potrero hill and now in alice griffith. i wanted to share with you my story and why we need extremely low income housing. i wanted my son to start working at our apartment community center. he was 23 years old and as soon as he started there, all of a sudden there were gunshots and gunshots , then the next day, my son got shot. i just can't take it anymore. i am nervous to be outside, so i have to stay inside to shear myself. i am not the same anymore. and i wish,

they could help with the housing low subsidy program. thank you. thank you for sharing your comments. could we have the next speaker, please? good afternoon, chair melgar and supervisors preston and peskin, my name is zach weisenberger, and i'm a land use policy analyst at young community developers. ycd we're at this hearing today because the clients we serve, the vast majority of whom are black and brown families, don't income qualify for any units on dahlia, with upwards of 48% of the city's black population being ellie, the biggest hurdle to our community obtaining affordable housing is the lack of deeply affordable units. at ycd, we see firsthand how broad this need is and how it extends across the full breadth of our programing. our direct services staff too often hears about single parents with multiple children surviving on a minimum wage job, seniors raising grandchildren on a fixed income, families who are severely rent burdened or living in overcrowded conditions as they have little to no alternative to their existing situation in our workforce

programs, we see parents work in minimum wage jobs who enter into apprenticeship programs and realize they can't afford to take the time to complete the trainings. i've personally led community outreach sessions with residents to discuss dalia and how we can better support their efforts to obtain housing. many talk about how they've checked listings weekly for months and are yet to see a unit they qualify for. what about our certificate of preference holders or copy holders? and now their descendants who still have to income qualify to gain access to affordable housing? a recent erap report shows bayview was one of the neighborhoods with the highest number of applicants citywide. over 86% of applicants were ellie and over 56% did not live in subsidized or affordable housing. 47% of applicants had a household size of two or more, which includes families, black residents were also the largest demographic of applicants. it also feels dishonest when we continuously ask these same ellie families to vote for affordable housing resources, such as with prop a, what do we tell them when they ask how they'd benefit when the funding

isn't going towards addressing their needs? i can't overstate how impactful it would be for the southeast to have the city create housing programs affordable to all residents. our community is tired of hearing the term affordable housing. they often ask us, affordable for who? ellie. housing is the real affordable housing we need. thank you for your time. thank you for sharing your comments. let's have the next speaker, please. good afternoon, board of supervisors. hope all is well with you. addition. my name is stetson hines. i'm the family support coordinator with black to the future. importantly, part of my role with black to the future as a family support coordinator, is providing wraparound services to african-american families in san francisco with the highest unmet needs. unfortunately, one of the highest unmet and unmet needs is housing. remarkably, one of those clients just spoke charles burns, who shared his experience of gun violence and housing barriers. consequently, 48% of african american residents are considered extremely low income. therefore, housing affordability is a commonality and harsh

reality. i have discovered that connects many african american families throughout, especially when discussing and analyzing african american economic relief and sustainability. thank you. thank you so much for sharing your comments. let's have the next speaker, please. hi, my name is ali canto and i've worked with ellie. households facing insecurities, housing insecurities for the past four years. i currently work in bayview hunters point at young community developers and live in the tenderloin. witnessing and hearing the stories that haven't changed, just the names and faces. and i ask, how can we keep doing this? the high cost of living in sf makes it nearly impossible for our most vulnerable populations seniors, families, and people with disabilities to find housing even affordable housing is out of reach for our ellie households, who often need to make three times the rent to

even qualify to apply, causing many ellie households to be effectively shut out of the city's affordable housing. i've seen my clients despair when they hear about affordable housing, but quickly realize it's not for them. the covid 19 pandemic even further exposed and amplified the cracks in our system. here are a few examples of what i witnessed every day. a senior client with multiple chronic health issues applied to hundreds of low income senior housing, only to end up on ten year waiting list. a family of four with a full time job still can't afford their monthly rent, even after emergency rental assistance. when they finally came up for a dahlia bmr unit, they had to turn it down because the rent was still 3500, just as high as their current rent. a family of three with one senior and two minors is forced to stay in an unsafe housing project because there's no alternative. this family applied for housing choice vouchers, but had to wait almost a decade. while some never got this chance. how it

how is it that we are a city known for progressive values and diversity, yet we are allowing our neighbors predominantly people of color, to be pushed out and left without options. sf must be better to support its residents, especially those who have been historically marginalized and disproportionately impacted by systemic racism. we need a commitment to fund housing programs specifically for all households, not just in words, but in action. thank you for sharing your comments. let's have the next speaker please. muy buenas tardes. por la preston, presidente del comité de uso de la tierra y transport. me llamo leonardo luna y distrito de la mission area de la ciento. diez icu's in la santa son una la asequible, pero no fue hasta aqui durante seis anos vivimos en un basement donde las condiciones no eran

actas para la familia. por ejemplo, muchos insectos y ratas me familia yo no sentimos todos con todas esas pecador. luego nos vamos a un estudio aun no satisfaction nuestra necesidades por lo pequeno era durante los anos aplicamos a dalia en busca de una mejor, pero me ingresos no son lo suficiente para cubrir los altos costos de renta. entiendo muchas familias pasen por este mismo problema in san francisco, todos merecemos un lugar seguro y yaki in la renta privada es dificil encontrar lo necesitamos para cubrir estos costos y por el mente. gracias por este importante tema. thank you so much. good afternoon supervisors melgar preston and president peskin and the committee of land use and transport. my name is leonardo

luna and i live in the mission district area 94110. actually currently i live with my two sons children and my and my partner at 2060 folsom of affordable housing unit. but it wasn't easy to get there during six. for six years we lived in a basement where the conditions were not appropriate for a family of four. for example, there were many insects and rats. my family and i were constantly uncomfortable because of all the bites and stings. later, we moved to a studio that still did not satisfy our needs due to how small it was. across eight long years, we applied to the looking for a better option, but my income still was not sufficient for to cover the high cost of the rent. and i understand that many families go through this same problem in san francisco. we all deserve a safe and secure home and an affordable home as as private rent is a private, rentals are

difficult to find. we need your help to cover these costs and to be able to live with dignity. we thank you for bringing up this subject and for talking about this important stuff. subject thank you for your comments. thank you for the interpretative assistance. could we have the next speaker, please? good afternoon, chair melgar. supervisor preston and president peskin. my name is krista alarcon luna. and i am a community organizer with mission economic development agency. i want to mirror the concerns that have been shared by many here today about the need for ely subsidies to assist our families . i also want to focus my comments, in particular on our small sites, large housing preservation program focusing on anti-displacement and community stabilization, the needs of our immigrant and working class communities we serve are not met with 80 to 120% ami rents. the preservation program will be a more effective anti-displacement tool if deeper affordability is achieved across the program, because right now it is extremely hard to acquire buildings where there are

primarily, extremely low income tenants, requiring higher overall rents across the building to make those projects feasible. the cost of staffing and operating our projects doesn't allow us to reach rents. affordable to extremely low income households, without some form of operating subsidy, as only units that are targeted to 50 and 60% ami and above cover the cost of operations. this ability to reach ely families with the small sites program is critical, since 2016, the number of clients that we are serving has doubled, but the percentage of extremely low income households has tripled. our community deserves safe and affordable homes in the face of adversity, there lies and opportunity for transformation. we can view this challenge not as an obstacle, but as a call to action, a call to uphold the values of equity and compassion that are that define our city. thank you. supervisors for bringing up this important issue today. thank you for sharing your comments. let's have the next speaker, please. good afternoon, chair melgar, supervisor preston and president

peskin. as a city, we spent a lot of time problem solving around the north star. of the 46,000 affordable units in our housing element, but it also means that we've paid less attention to problem solving around the needs of particularly vulnerable populations that are not effectively served by our affordable housing system, according to the affordable housing leadership council's report that was issued last month, san francisco has produced less housing for extremely low income households, usually because these units require additional rent or operating subsidy. so this is our chance to right that ship. our housing element calls for close to 14,000 l.a. units over the next reunion period, and that means that we must develop equity in our housing development pipeline and create an affordable, affirmative, affordable housing program to serve l.a. residents. the proposed $20 billion for regional housing bond in november 2024 is one strategy to finance these units. however, these potential new resources will likely leave out the most

vulnerable stakeholders if we don't have a clear commitment to funding a robust, robust l.a. program. the bafa business plan states that production for extremely low income households should be prioritized. however, ongoing operating subsidies are needed to successfully stabilize the l.a. households. the city will develop a local allocation plan for our portion of the regional bond, and we strongly urge the mayor's office of housing and community development to build a collaborative process prior to the november election so that we can address the needs of valley communities that we're hearing today. this local allocation plan must be informed by the on the ground expertise of local communities to understand the gaps in housing services. i want to appreciate supervisor peskin, san francisco communities against displacement, the numerous community organizations and community members here, and look forward to follow up actions we can take together as a city to serve l.a. residents. thank you. thank you for sharing your comments. let's have the next speaker. please good

afternoon, chair melgar, supervisor joseph smook with the race and equity in all planning coalition, the sf coalition has been advocating for racial and social equity outcomes in the housing element since 2020. equity outcomes are impossible to achieve unless we design and implement policies that address imbalances in our market and profit based housing system. these imbalances clearly manifested in the last eight year cycle, when we fell short in building housing for low and extremely low income households by more than 8000 units. with this deficit in an even deeper goal, steeper goal, sorry, in the current eight year cycle, it's past time for the city to get serious about its promise of centering racial and social equity and fulfilling its promise to l.a. tenants, a majority of whom are seniors, persons with disabilities, and families of color. citywide, people's plan calls on the city

to allocate more resources to meet these needs, including expanding expanding existing programs such as the senior operating subsidy and creating new programs to help l.a. tenants get into and stay in permanently affordable housing. several actions in the housing element relating to meeting this need are supposed to be completed by january of next year. one critical quote from the housing element says, i quote. the city will also increase the supply of deeply affordable housing as a homelessness prevention strategy for extremely low and very low income households, as those households bear a higher risk of homelessness. thank you, president peskin, for calling for this hearing and for focusing the city's attention on those most in need. thank you. thank you for your comments. let's have the next speaker, please. hello. my name is theresa imperial. i'm the director of build housing program and our organization

provides access to affordable housing. and that means, providing housing case managers and educational workshops when it comes to dahlia or other kinds of affordable housing. and what we've seen in the last few years, especially in the times of pandemic, how, how the extremely low income population is very vulnerable when it comes to displacement. they're pretty much one paycheck away to be displaced, many of our seniors are currently rely on rental subsidy program in order to get to affordable housing. actually, there are also we also have counselors that usually problem solve with our clientele. and usually and this is the depressing part, is that we instead of having the dahlia to have them apply for it, we would have to counsel them other ways, whether rental subsidy program or whether they have other

income that they're generating, that perhaps that can help them to apply for affordable housing. that should not be the case when we're talking about for the extremely low income lately, there has been a lot of conversation about the missing middle. but what is actually missing is actually the extremely low income. and we need the city needs to focus on that solution. and i commend the president for calling this, this hearing and need to focus. and we need to focus on the most vulnerable. thank you. thank you for your comments, commissioner. so the next speaker, please. hi. good afternoon. my name is julian ball. i'm a housing case manager with bill sorrow. housing program. bishop, same organization, and i work with our, our low income clients who are looking for affordable housing, helping them through

all phases of the application process. in the best of cases, our families are desperate, often renting a room in a single family home or an apartment for years, sometimes with entire families renting in that room until they can be lucky enough to win a housing lottery. in the best case, which is if they're making their low wage workers in san francisco. so making $2,023 an hour or something like that, there's something they'll they'll qualify for in after years when they get selected for those lotteries. but there's a huge disparity between even low wage workers in san francisco and people who rely on federal benefits like ssi, which is 1182 per month, so when you think about that in the best of cases, folks on that income can afford around $500 a month. so for every household that qualifies, we get other other people who

come for our services because they're just as desperate for housing. only there's nothing, nothing on dahlia or anywhere they can qualify for, so the best we can do is apply for people anyway. hope they get selected. hope that there then, tenant based subsidies they can apply for when they get selected . at this point, the organizations that provide tenant based subsidies, catholic charities and radco are out of funding for this fiscal year. so essentially, we're punishing households who get selected in a lottery because they happen to get lucky at the wrong time of the fiscal year. that is not a sane way to run a housing system . speakers time has concluded. thank you for sharing your comments. so the next speaker, please.

yeah. yeah. okay. hi and, zainab abu ali, i want to when north america homeless. and, the sumiya said ethnic who had a one bedroom studio or one, and. we and i know market stall. dbi deli mandelman. nicholas leisure . home. alyssa when, mandy had no mccain. mccain. when nicole mccullough. carly. and, i'm

observe and migraine and the. oh, thank you so much. good afternoon. board supervisor. my name is zainab abu ali. i'm 81 years old. i obtained a burisma unit and a long term subsidy with the help of sumiya lactb from pesaro housing program. so after living in sro for over 20 years, i'm now paying half of my income toward rent. even with the rental subsidy that i received from catholic charity, i barely make it toward the end of the month with food and my personal needs, i respectfully seek assistance in securing funding for more affordable housing options suitable for seniors disabled with limited income. like myself. thank you so much. and also, i have a consent from my client to share her subsidy contract with you. just to have more information on

how much she is paying for rent and also how much her rent portion and the rental subsidy portion for your for your review. i'll pick that up. thank you very much. thank you. so, so could we have the next speaker, please? hello. my name is allison faison, and i'm with faith in action bay area. i'm part of the english core team, and i work with the spanish core team, we've been working together since 2018, and i've heard many testimonies, as you have, their stories about looking for subsidies, doing research meetings, talking with district supervisors, and just going directly to sources to find subsidies. and they continue to have a difficult time with that, i also am the director of children and family ministries at calvary presbyterian church. we are a sanctuary church. we became that sanctuary church in 2018, and we see a lot of families coming to

our church to ask for assistance and is very difficult to find subsidies and help for them, we are part of an interfaith group and we all work together to help people who are closest to the pain. so we also look forward to finding out more about prop-m implementation and how that is going to help with housing and subsidies. thank you. thank you so much for sharing your comments. could we have the next speaker, please? and while that speaker approaches the lectern, if there's anyone else here who has public comment on agenda item number three, from whom we have not yet heard, you can line up and we'll hear from you next. otherwise, we'll close this out. please begin. my name is chaya french and i am the director of housing and transit organizing at senior and disability action, at sda we hear from our community daily about the need for more affordable housing. we hear from people who aren't eligible for most of the affordable housing because they don't make enough money. we have one member who searched for two years for an apartment that was

both accessible to her and her wheelchair, and mold free, and there are many people who search for much longer. our community needs apartments with accessibility features like roll in showers and ramps and elevators, but we also need apartments that have access to transportation. our community members with chemical sensitivities need specific paints and carpets, among other materials, to be used. and some of our autistic members need sound reduction and lights that aren't fluorescent. i could go on, but we need local investments so seniors and disabled people can have housing they can afford, and that works for them. thank you so much for sharing your comments. do we have anyone else who has public comment for agenda item number three? madam chair, thank you, mr. clark. public comment on this item is now closed, thank you, president peskin, for calling for this hearing, what would you like to do, i would like to find an unlimited amount

of resource to address the scope , that there's clearly a demonstrated need for. but no, in all seriousness, you know, as we've been grappling with rina and 82,000 units in eight years, there's been an extraordinary amount of the conversation, and we've made some pretty massive policy adjustments as it relates to the economic feasibility and reducing the percentage of on site inclusionary requirements, stream lining things, adding zoning capacity, but none of that results in a single l.a. unit. not not any of it, and, don't get me wrong, i think we all care. it's just that we haven't been looking for tools to address what is basically an unfunded mandate. and even and as a, as a fundamental societal

responsibility, whether it was an unfunded mandate or not. and you know, i salute the state for the modicum of financial resources that they've bestowed on us, obviously, federal programs which have been continually cut back not just under republican administrations, but under democratic ones, too, are are part of the problem and really part of the solution, and we have seen an expansion of, tenant based portable section eight. and i think we have a responsible responsibility here locally to also go about policy changes to make sure that all of it is utilized, but as the budget approaches and i note what we all know, which is, you have the greatest amount of need when you have the least amount of resources. i think it's high time that this board of supervisors and the administration and the various

manifestations of the executive branch motccd, dos, have a frank policy conversation about the policy choices that are before us in this budget and also, you know, we have as a city, as a society, we made choices about setting funds aside for libraries, for parks, and i think we should be having a frank conversation about doing that in the realm of extremely low income operating subsidies, particularly given that we are putting more and more of this on a bunch of organizations, that are doing their best. but ultimately, this doesn't pencil. and when you hear that 60% figure, i mean, even if these are not cash flowing to pay down for future capital investment in rehabilitation of properties, these things only work if you if revenue meets expenses. and i

think we have to be very frank with ourselves, as it relates to an array of nonprofit housing providers, the and we've heard from many of them here today. so i want to, thank the faith community. ycd bishop. community tenants association and the host of others that are reminding us that we cannot, just magically think that this is going to be addressed. we have to address it and i'd like to have that conversation with you colleagues as not only budget season is moving forward, but as, the time to go to the ballot and ask the voters, if they share this policy priority is also upon us, so with that, chair melgar, i would move to file this item. i think there'll be future discussions, but they'll probably be around specific pieces of public policy. and thank you both for your

questions and your time. motion has been offered by member peskin that the hearing be filed on that motion. vice chair preston preston and i member peskin, i peskin i chair melgar, i. melgar i madam chair there are three eyes. thank you, mr. clerk, do we have anything else on our agenda today? there's no further business. thank you much . and dos you are watching san francisco rising with chris manor.

today's special guest is sarah phillips. >> hi, i'm chris manors and you are watching san francisco rising the show about restarting rebuilding and eare imagineing the city. the guest today is sarah phillips the executive director of economic workforce development. welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. let's talk about the city economic plan and specifically the city's road map to san francisco future. can you give a brief overview and update on progress? >> absolute e. in february 2023 mayor breed released the roadmap comprised to 9 strategies to move the city forward understanding there was structural and lang lasting changing by the covid

impact. 134 were shorter term impacts how people using transit downtown and coming out and are using small businesses, some of them remember long-term structural impacts. the way we work. how often we are in an office and how much office space companies who had headquartered in san francisco need. some of those were structural impacts how we stop. there has been a long-term change as online shopping takes up a greater share how we performs and covid-19 took a shift that would probably take 10 to 15 years happen and collapse what happened ofern the timeframe to 2 years so saw structural impacts how people shop. we have seen a lot of progress rchlt we are 9 months in and significant things we have seen is efforts creating permitinant services and homes for people

experiencing homelessness is dramatic. we increased the number of shelter beds dramatically and take-up of the beds dramatically, and there is more work to do. on the safety side there are exciting things that happened. we increased our police pay among the highest in the bay area which is a important thing for recruitment. police recruitment across the country is down so recruiting the best we can means we need to give a high pay set. august the highsh return in graduates. we see 75 decrease in retail theft and 50 percent reduction in car break ins which is quality of life crime san francisco experienced so there is real progresses we are seeing on clean and safe sides. one thing important in the mayor roadmap we are not trying to get back to 2020 vision.

i think covid showed having a downtown with people sitting at offices isn't the best downtown it can be. i think it is a opportunity to bring 24 hour life use downtown. >> music and concerts is a great way to bring people to a specific location. golden gate park we had lots of events in plazas throughout the city. can you talk about those and if there is upcoming events too? >> i think you touched on something key to the mayor road map. for san francisco and particularly san francisco downtown to move forward and be successful as a great american city, it is about bringing people together because they want to be together not because they center to be together and music is a strong part that. the planet concert sear ries coming up and happening

throughout the city not just golden gate park but downtown locations are a great example. there are smaller examples as well. the landing at--is a new plaza we constructed in the mayor roadmap where two streets come together akwraisant to a couple restaurants closed to cars in daytime, chairs and seating and throughout the week they have lunch time and evening music to bring people together after work. they participate in that. something we are working on setting up for next year which is really exciting is our sf live program and that will bring a full 2024 concert series where we match local venues bringing their work and partnership to useian square, music center plaza and embark cadero. we will be able to announce

concert series through the sf- >> you mentioned vacant to vibrant, that program has a lot of attention lately. can you talk generally what exactly that program is? >> yeah. so, we opened a program where we put out a call for landlords willing to offer groundfloor space for free for 3 to 6 month jz small business or storefront operators who had a proposal what they would do for 3 to 6 months. it is pilot. we had a incredible amount of interest. we had--i'm forgetting the number of landlords, but more then we expected because we are in a place where commercial real estate understands they need to come to the table to help make our groundfloor lively and resulting in a transition where the groundfloor is seen less as a

money making operation, but more as a leader to lease upper floors. if you have a active ground floor yields better on the other 80 percent of the building you are trying to lease. that was great, a lot of cooperation scr over 700 small business or operators responded to that call. it is pop up. there is no intention this would result in forever small businesses, but there is certainly a hope and i think what we are hearing, i don't have the final data, but there are 17 activators in 9 different spaces, some are colocated, which is why the difference, and out of those 9 spaces that are being leased for free, now 7 of them are in discussions for long-term leases so the spaces continue. it is the program. we are hopeful to have a second and third traunch and hoping to pilot in other neighborhoods with other partners. it is not an inexpensive program because there is a lot of capital that goes into

popping up for short amount of time but what we are seen is they visit the businesses, the businesses are successful and san francisco want to support this activation so hopeful to expand it. >> that's great. can you talk a bit about why piloting programs and testing things is so important? >> absolutely. you know, i would say not only the important generally but important in san francisco specifically. the benefit of pilot programs in the reasons they are really important here is, it allows us to try something and say, there may be consequence but let's understand those in real time rather then waiting to start a strategy while we think about them on paper and if they are too great we can modify the program as we go. mta has absorbed the strategy whether a bike lane or other to figure how best to use the street? is this working?

is it working for bikes and cars and buses? maybe not, let's switch it around and pilots have been important to oewd to our office particularly because we tend to have the ability and the mayor's support through the budget process to pilot things through request for proposals or rfp process where we can put out a small amount of funding, try activation and small public plaza, see if it works and i think the benefit there is, if it doesn't work we tried it and had the benefit of seeing real time and when it does work, we are able to uplift that and move into a permanent strategy and that is where our agency turns over something we piloted to another agency because it is part of the city operating procedure. pilots also give people hope. when we have the short-term whether it is physical public

plaza or activation that shows change is possible and allows them to vote for what they like. >> lastly, in lith light of the current ai boom, do you think there is a way to leverage those new changes to take a bunch of san francisco's status as a tech hub? >> i do, i think they work together. san francisco right now has a strong vacancy problem in our office space. and there is a back-story to that. our zoning downtown has not prevented other uses, in terms of permitting uses of the multi-story building has been open including allowing residential but we put other barriers, cost and code barriers et cetera and what happened also during the height of our preevious boom is that, the amount that tech companies were willing to pay for office

space bid everything out so we-without intentionally zoning a single use downtown, we de facto became a single use downtown and thereat is the opportunity you are pointing out. now because downtown was so convertible from work from home, particularly as tech based downtown was and how much companies put at the market in the office spaces we are seeing high vacancy now, all most 30 percent so there is lot of square feet but that presents a lot of opportunity. we have the ability to absorb expansion of the tech industry we are so strong at. we have seen over 800 thousand square feet of ai space leased just in 2023 alone and there is still more demand out in the market, more ai companies looking for space so that is a growth spot absorbing some of the vac ancy. the opportunity too is prices

for downtown lease s have also dropped and that opens up a breath of opportunity to a breath of companies that were priced out in 2018, 2019, 2020. san francisco has always been great at starting companies and allowing them to grow here. when our prices are too high it prevents that growth so now we are a super fertile ground for more start ups and invasion on the smaller end of the sector because they can come and enter our market and we have the space to offer. to talk about san francisco's assets and the leveraging that, we sit at the epicenter of really great university and educational institutions. we are between uc berkeley and stanford. the graduates produced just from those institutions alone stay in the bay area and want to rise up and work here, provide a real opportunity for the start ups to build their companies and companies to grow here so we confident we will absorb a certain amount of office space with ai tech. with that, we are interested in

increasing our human capital growing graduates. downtown university is something the mayor is open to pursuing and we are in conversations with uc berkeley we love to have as a partner in our downtown and then residential conversions are a great partner to that. as we build back the office space, people will want to live downtown again and we have a number buildings that can be converted to residential. the costs are high. mayor breed and her partners on the board made significant changes to reduce the costs. we waived fees for change of uses in the downtown area. there are code changes that will make the conversions easier. there is a ballot measure on the march ballot that will attempt to reduce costs for those as well. it is ongoing process and none of those changes we talked about absent ai growth downtown, but institutional

growth downtown, arts growth downtown and residential conversions downtown are long-term changes so one thing i want to say recollect i do think there is a opportunity per your question, but we also need to be patient because what we are talking about is is a real shift to the make-up of the downtown since from the growth it has been starting at since the turn of the century so that isn't a 2 year change, that is a 10 year change and we center to watch as it goes. >> thank you so much. i really appreciate you spending the time here today and your creative vision and positivity, so thank you so much. >> thanks so much for having me and hope you all downtown and shop. >> that is it for this episode. for sfgovtv i'm chris manors, thanks hi, i'm lawrence. we ar

doing a special series about staying safe. let's look at issues of water and sewer. we are here at the san francisco urban center on mission street in san francisco and i'm joined today by marrielen from puc and talk about water and sewer issues. what are things we should be concerned about water. >> you want to be prepared for that scenario and the recommendation is to have stored 1 gallon per person per day that you are out of water. we recommend that you have at least 3-5 days for each person and also keep in consideration storage needs for your pets and think about the size of your pets and how much water they consume. >> the storage which is using

tap water which you are going to encourage. >> right. of course at the puc we recommend that you store our wonderful delicious tap water. it's free. it comes out of the tap and you can store it in any plastic container, a clean plastic container for up to 6 months. so find a container, fill it with water and label it and rotate it out. i use it to water my garden. >> of course everyone has plastic bottles which we are not really promoting but it is a common way to store it. >> yes. it's an easy way to pick up bottles to store it. just make sure you check the label. this one says june 2013. so convenient you have an end date on it. >> and there are other places where people have water stored in their houses. >> sure. if you have a water heater or access to the water heater to your house, you can drink that water and you can also drink the water that the

in the tank of your toilet. ; not the bowl but in your tank. in any case if you are not totally sure about the age of your water or if you are not sure about it being totally clean, you can treat your water at home. there is two ways that you can treat your water at home and one is to use basic household bleach. the recommendation is 8 drops of bleach for ever gallon of water. you add 8 drops of bleach into the water and it needs to sit for 30 minutes. the other option is to boil water. you need to boil water for 5-10 minutes. after an earthquake that may not be an option as gas maybe turned off

and we may not have power. the other thing is that puc will provide information as quickly as possible about recommendations about whether the water is okay to drink or need to treat it. we have a number of twice get information from the puc through twitter and facebook and our website sf water.org. >> people should not drink water from pools or spas. but they could use it to flush their toilets if their source are not broken. let's look at those issues. >> sanitation is another issue and something people don't usually or like to think about it but it's the reality. very likely that without water you can't flush and the sewer system can be impeded or affected during an earthquake. you need to think about sanitation. the options are

simple. we recommend a set up if you are able to stay in your building or house to make sure that you have heavy duty trash bags available. you can set this up within your existing toilet bowl and once it's used. you take a little bit of our bleach. we talked about it earlier from the water. you seal the bag completely. you make sure you mark the bag as human waste and set it aside and wait for instruction about how to dispose of it. be very aware of cleanliness and make sure you have wipes so folks are able to wash up when dealing with the sanitation issue. >> thank you so much,