>> good afternoon, this meeting will come to order. welcome to the april 22, regular meeting of the land use and transportation committee of the san francisco board of supervisors. i'm supervisors melgar chair of

the committee joined by aaron peskin and vice chair dean preston. the committee clerk is john caroll and i would like to acknowledge s--for staffing this meeting. mr. clerk. >> clerk: if you have any documents to include as part of today's files you should bring them to the rail i'll meet you at the front. public comment will be taken when your item of interest comes up, please line up to speak along your right hand side. ultimately you may submit public comment in writing. you may do so by writing your comment to me, or you may send your written comment to see our office in city hall. that is the clerk's office, one carleton san francisco

california, 91402. and items acted upon today are expected ton the board of supervisors agenda on april 20th, 2024, unless otherwise stated. >> thank you, and i have an announcement before you call item number 1, before the deputy attorney shuts me down because it's not on the agenda, there is a blood drive tomorrow at the irish cultural center in district 4. a blood drive to support our dear colleague erika majors who needs a donation. i would encourage who can to do that, it's in the morning between 8:00 and 12 noon. 2700 5th avenue. thank you. so please call item number 1. >> agenda item number 1 is an ordinance planning code to

designate san francisco fire station number 44 located at 1298 grand street, making other findings throughout the ordinance. >> okay, thank you so much. we are joined but bye natalie g with supervisor wal ton's office. welcome ms. g. >> good afternoon, i'm here on behalf of supervisor walton for fire station number 44, today, station 44 is the oldest fire house still in active service. in partnership with the history rog ekt, the committee identified projects to address the neighborhoods under representation in the city's official inventory of the stories. this is the second in visitation neighborhood, we would like to thank the project, sf heritage, sf fire

department and our residents for your partnership in pushing this through. and we cannot wait to celebrate with you once this is passed. i look forward and thank you i look forward to hopefully positive recommendation. >> thank you very much. let's bring up planning department. >> thank you, chair melgar, just a minute, i have a couple of slides. >> if you, good afternoon, president peskin, planning department staff. the historic commission reviewed the designation of san francisco fire station number 44 at the regular public hearing on december 20, 2023.

constructed during a growth, fire station 44 is significant for its association with the fire protection in the early 20th century. fire station is also significant as it embodies an early characteristics of the classical revive at fire station and representative of the work of john reed junior. at the public hearing, the commission heard public comments in support of designation and voted unanimously to approve a resolution, modified to include the herrin brick flooz a character feature of the landmark recognizing landmark recognition. thank you, that concludes my presentation. unless you have any questions. >> i don't have any specific

questions, i don't think my colleagues do either. so let's go to public comment on this item, please. >> clerk: if you have public comment on agenda item 1, please come forward to the lectern at this time. >> speaker: good afternoon, supervisors my name is woody la bounty i'm the president of ceo of san francisco heritage. i'm ask you sincerely to recommend bringing in forward. we're very very excite today have the fire station 44 brought forward as an article 10 city landmark. i want to thank supervisor walton and natalie g for doing everything they do with the community to help us identify worthy candidate for resources and visitation valley. until early 2022, we worked with residents in visitation valley on what we thought might be a good historic project, and they came together to identify that there was not one city landmark in this city

neighborhood. so we worked very closely with the supervisors office to bring saint james presbyterian church which was successful and we're delighted that fire station 44 has been brought forward. i do want to make a reminder that the fire department offered to throw us a bbq if this happens. so i hope to have a celebratory bbq soon. thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you very much for your comment. anyone public comment? madam chair. >> thank you, public comment on this item is now closed. thank you, ms. g. i would like to make a motion that we send this item out of the committee with a positive recommendation. >> on the motion recommendation. >> aye. >> aye. >> peskin. aye. skhair melgar. >> aye. >> madam chair, there are three ayes. >> thank you so much. let's go to item number 2.

>> clerk: ordinance a meaned --amending the code in the district extension. >> thank you for hearing this item today. i'm just a little history how we got here. as you maze recall on this duplicated file originals from a prior ordinance within three

historic districts in the northeast park of the city which was supervisor peskin's legislation and those are the jackson historic district and the extension of that and also the northeast water front district. when the original file was made, i made it clear that i would look for a policy solution that would enable more dense mixes in new housing construction as as long as these buildings do not damage the you integrity of the areas. since then i've worked with the city's team to endeavor to achieve this solution. the amendments being considered today are the result of this work. these amendments create a density exception specifically within these three historic districts. this density will allow future housing to allow form base density controls only if these projects do not utilize the

double density bonus. and the goal here is to allow housing proj toekts a provide more affordable units while ensuring that these projects are not out of scale with the buildings that are contribute to the historic nature of the three landmark districts. we're just talking about a small area here and to be clear about these amendments, more now needs to be done to better understand this approach. the double density bonus that allows for a 100% increase in unit count was enacted just this year. while after we passed the policies and guidelines. all stakeholders that i've spoken to agree that more analysis needs to be done to understand the impact of the double density bonus especially within thaoz areas. i'm confident that these analysis can be done through

these order nanz and i'm asking the committee to accept these committees. that does not indicate approve of them per se, but by accepting the amendments so that this new ordinance can be studies by the experts of the planning department and then it will go to the planning commission again. and i want to thank president peskin in the city attorney's office for the conversations we've had up until this point. and i look forward to the planning department to achieve the goal that we're trying to get to. and the goal that works on policies solution that encourages more housing options on these wonderful neighborhoods w.those, those are my comment ons that and i want supervisor peskin to weigh in as well. >> thank you, supervisor stefani, i think our goals are the same. as i said when we went through

this whole contentious mess, our intention when with the ordinance that we passed in the c2 was always to allow additional density, i think what we did not understand is the combination of form base density with state bonus density would lead to proposals for super sized luxury condominiums not far from our water front that vasly exceeded the height limits. the workout was to revisit that for a small portion of the c2 in some of the city's, the city's earliest district, the historic district. but i share the goal, and the goal was never to allow squeezing of double density to produce a wall of towers. and as supervisor stefani said, there are a number of questions

which remain unclear to all of us which should be studied before we advance this ordinance. so i am open to adopting these amendments and sending them to planning for analysis, i think the city attorney who is not a planner said, it may do what we both intend it does, but i think we're going to leave that to the professional planners to analyze. so i'm happy to send it it over to planning and see what they have to say. >> okay, thank you so much. with that let's go to public comment on this item please. >> thank you, if you have public comment on agenda item number 2, please come to the lecture at this time. it appears nrr no speakers. >> okay. i guess there is no public comment, there you g.public comment on this item is now closed. i would like to make a motion that we adopt these amendments that were circulated by

supervisor stefani and that we continue this to the call of the chair. >> on the motion offered by the chair that the ordinance be amended and then continued to the call of the chair as amended. pes ton. >> aye. >> peskin. >> aye. >> chair melgar. >> aye. >> clerk: madam chair, there are three ayes. >> that motion passes, congratulations supervisor stefani. let's go to item number 3. >> clerk: item 3 is resolution commemorative plaques or statute tory two locations in a neighborhood known as little italy at the northwest intersection stock son and union and southwest corner between stockton and fillbert to celebrate figures in the i tal nann community to carry out of the installation of the a

for mentions plaques or statutory. >> thank you very much, supervisor peskin. >> it's to approve the installation of the first two of the series of commemorative plaques honoring significant i tal january leaders who have had a lasting affect on both san francisco and our country. on october 2 of last year, under the guidance of sergio who could not be here today a coalition of italian association came together to establish the san francisco little italy honor walk project with a reason to celebrate and enhance the italian community and development in san francisco and development of san francisco particularly in the historic italian neighborhood of northbeach that i've had the honor of representing. these plaques have been approved bit arts commission and public works and we are the

last and as i said this is going to be a series overtime. a wide swap of communities pointing women laboratory people and racial minority to city commissions and advisory forms. the other plaque will commemorate marian proud member of the medical association in the san francisco medical society and she championed a idea of establishing a maternity and xhirn's ward in every county california in the state of california. and i want to thank nick and

athletic club for their participation and leadership. and i also want to give a nod for chair melgar for authorizing the love your, the commemorative thought process that we're a veiling ourselves of today and with that, it's my pleasure to turn it over to my cosponsor supervisor stefani. >> thank you, supervisor peskin, i'm absolutely thrilled, i think everybody knows why, i love my italian heritage, i don't hide the fact that i'm italian. i want to thank supervisor pes xin for moving this along and every one in the italian community who has persevered to make sure that our italian meritage is celebrated. i'm thrilled to be here today and thank to every one who has had a part in this.

>> thank you, supervisor. if there is no other comments or questions, colleagues, let's go to public comment on this item. >> do you have public comment on agenda item number 3, please come forward to the lectern at this time. we have speakers. >> speaker: nick figoni vice president of the san francisco little italy honor walk and thank you supervisors for your kind words and acknowledge of this important project it's been years in the making and thank you to the chair for her legislation to streamline this process. we were well received at the commission, there has been a community effort, there is 8 italian communication to form yet another nonprofit that will be responsible for managing and managing this effort. there will be an app and website and the goal is to drive as many people as

possible to northbeach, or little italy and to spend money and time there and to promote and celebrate all the small businesses that, president supervisor peskin has endured for many many years. so with that, i will pass it over to the next speaker. >> speaker: just to say thank you. in charge to follow the project and it's very honor to be here and i say thank you to all the supervisor to support this project. thanks. >> please give the council general our rewards. >> thank you so much. sure. >> clerk: does anyone else have public comment on agenda item number 3? madam chair. >> thank you so much, public comment on this item is now closed. president peskin, do you want to make a motion. >> would i like to make a motion to move this resolution

to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> clerk: on the motion offered by supervisor peskin, vice chair preston. >> aye. >> clerk: member peskin. >> aye. >> clerk: chair melgar. >> aye. >> clerk: madam chair, there are three ayes. >> thank you that motion passes. thank you. do we have any other items on our agenda today? >> clerk: there is no further business. >> okay, we are adjourned. thank you.

[music] so, can you tell us what it was like for you during your first encounter with the san francisco fire department? >> yep. it was super cool! i got to learn about the dry standing pipe correction. it is actually called, dry sand piper just stand pipe. tomato. you know. yea. >> so, what is coming up next for what is that for? >> oh , firefighter backsterinvited mow to a fire station to see the cool stuff firefighters use to put out fires. you have seen the had doors open like a space ship from out of

nowhere. i close my eye its is like i'm there right now! wow! whoa. watch out, man. what is that for? >> what is this? these are fire engines they might look alike they are both red. white top and red lights on top. this is a new 2021 fire engine and this is an older 2014 fire engine. if you can't tell, this one is shorter and narrower than our older fire engines. they have cool things like recessed lights. roll up doors. 360 degree cam ares and more that is important as the city is moving toward slower and safer

streets adding parklets and bulb outs and bike lanes we need to decrease our footprint to keep us and the community safer on emergency scenes. >> what's back there? >> when is not guilty fire engine. great question. i want to see, sure. >> let's go back and look at the equipment and the fire pump on the fire engine. >> this is a fire pump. it is cool all the colors and all that. this fire pump and this engine holds 500 gallons of water that is a lot. >> a lot of water. >> it is push out 1500 gallons a minute of water. we can lose our 500 gammons quickly. why we use hoses like this to connect to a fire hydrant and that gives us unlimited amount of water to help put a fire out temperature is important we have enough fire engine in san francisco to put fires out.

so we can reduce the injuries and minimize loss of life and minimize property damage. [music] >> mr. will. mr. will. will! >> oh. daydreaming. thanks, everybody for watching! bye! [music] >> (music). >> my name is - my business name is himself mexican america.

>> i started my business a year ago the process was a year ago by business by waving (background noise.) about $1,000 and also guided me there the whole process. (background noise.) that was helpful i was already paying the construction and other fees for the restaurant the city we put together to honor my city and comes with (unintelligible) on the (background noise.) and. >> (multiple voices.) >> and some go with ebbs and eggs (unintelligible) and a side

of roadways and beans. and be able - have my restaurant here in the district of the mission is such an amazing i grew up around the mission area and respect to school around here and so i was able to come in as establish any restaurant here (background noise.) really a feels like

>> there is a lot of unique characteristics about visitation valley. it is a unique part of the city. >> we are off in a corner of the city against the san francisco county line 101 on one side. vis station valley is still one of the last blue color neighborhoods in san francisco. a lot of working class families out here. it is unusual. not a lot of apartment buildings. a lot of single family homes. >> great business corridor. so much traffic coming through here and stopping off to grab coffee or sandwich or pick up food before going home. >> a lot of customers are from the neighborhood. they are painters or mechanics. they are like blue color workers, a lot of them. >> the community is lovely. multi-racial and hopefully we can look out for each other.

>> there is a variety of businesses on the block. you think of buffalo kitchen, chinese food, pork buns, sandwich. library, bank of america with a parking lot. the market where you can grab anything. amazing food choices, nail salons. basically everything you need is here. >> a lot of these businesses up and down leland are family owned. people running them are family. when you come here and you have an uncle and nephew and go across the street and have the guy and his dad. lisa and her daughter in the dog parlor and pam. it is very cool. >> is small businesses make the neighborhood unique. >> new businesses coming. in mission blue, gourmet chocolate manufacturing.

the corridor has changed and is continuing to change. we hope to see more businesses coming in the near future. >> this is what is needed. first, stay home. unless it is absoluteliness scary. social distancing is the most important step right now to limit spread of virus. cancel all nonessential gather everythings. >> when the pandemic litly land avenue suffered like other corridors. a few nail salons couldn't operate. they shut down. restaurants that had to adapt to more of a take out model. they haven't totally brought back indoor seating. >> it is heartbreaking to see the businesses that have closed

down and shut because of the pandemic. >> when the pandemic first hit it got really slow. we had to change our hours. we never had to close, which is a blessing. thank god. we stayed open the whole time. >> we were kind of nervous and anxious to see what was going to come next hoping we will not have to close down. >> during covid we would go outside and look on both sides of the street. it looked like old western town. nobody on the street. no cars. >> it was a hard eight or nine months. when they opened up half the people couldn't afford a haircut. >> during that time we kept saying the coffee shop was the living room of the valley. people would come to make sure they were okay. >> we checked on each other and patronized each other. i would get a cup of coffee,

shirt, they would get a haircut. >> this is a generous and kind community. people would be like i am getting the toffee for the guy behind me and some days it went on and on. it was amazing to watch. we saw a perfect picture of community. we are all in this together. >> since we began to reopen one year later, we will emerge stronger. we will emerge better as a city because we are still here and we stand in solidarity with one another. >> when we opened up august 1st. i will not say it was all good. we are still struggling due to covid. it affected a lot of people. >> we are still in the pandemic right now. things are opening up a little bit. it is great to have space to come together. i did a three painting series of

visitation valley and the businesses on leland. it felt good to drop off the paintings and hung them. >> my business is picking up. the city is opening up. we have mask requirements. i check temperatures. i ask for vaccination card and/or recent test. the older folks they want to feel safe here. >> i feel like there is a sense of unity happening. >> what got us through the pandemic was our customers. their dogs needed groomed, we have to cut their nails so they don't over grow. >> this is only going to push us forward. i sense a spirit of community and just belief in one another. >> we are trying to see if we can help all small businesses around here. there is a cannabis club lounge next to the dog parlor to bring

foot traffic. my business is not going to work if the business across the street is not getting help. >> in hit us hard. i see a bright future to get the storefronts full. >> once people come here i think they really like it. >> if you are from san francisco visit visitation valley to see how this side of the city is the same but different.

hi, i'm chris and you are watching san francisco rising. this is about rebuilding and reimaging the city.

we will talk about revitalizing downtown. >> thank you for having me. >> the initiatives in the downtown area and enjoy businesses. perhaps you can tell us about your plan. >> yeah, sure. well, you know, first i'd like to acknowledge we are here visiting union scare. this is the heart of the city and people come to celebrate life's greatest moments whether it's the holidays or buying your prom dress or getting married. you always think about union square as a place to celebrate. we would like to continue in that celebration especially postpandemic. this is a great place to celebrate life. we want to be creative getting

people outdoors. we are still coming out of the pandemic and enjoying what we have to offer think about the beautiful hotel and historic district. we have world class shopping destinations and theater here we are using our strike thattic plan there was a time when weus people want r want a bit of everything appeared experience. one of the newest initiatives is union square. in you come down you will see blooms cascading from hotel awnings and blooms on historic building fronts. you will see them on bus

stops. you can go to many of our restaurants and they have cocktails. they have food and of course, being connected withification we have our bloom gown that's behind me. so, a announcement f ways to celebrate blooms. this is another great time of year for union square we are kickoff the holiday celebrations. they bring out the animal window. we have ice skating. music is another great way to come and enjoy union scare. we are a recipient of the latest grant. this is bringing it into the public life.

we are doing it here. this is in our park. it's really show this is great when it comes to music. >> we have been ignoring the fact for the districts it's a pretty common place across the country and opportunity to transform our spaces. >> yeah, i agree with you 100%. >> we have 13,000 hotel rooms. what if we had a school or soccer this is something we couldn't do before. our rates prior to the

pandemic was under10%. we are higher now. >> we have businesses like cable car a lot of history and innovation here as well. we want to be ready for the opportunities. this is where some office spaces will come. we are seeing office leases in union square. the cable car comes through it. why not come to work in a vibrant space. >> a lot of the businesses have been remarkably resilient. can you share success stories and talk about how they have been supporting them. >> this aligned with what i just said about historic neighborhoods. they have seen everything from the great depression on. in fact, the earthquake of 1906. we have been around for

hundreds of years. celebrating 116th birthday. open to the public in october. they are not gone. they are just down the street a beautiful store where people find great fabrics. contemrare just here on powell street. a lot of the luxury retailers are expanding neighborhood print. >> we talk about the area with a rich history. what about the spaces and stronger sense of community. >> yeah, you know. i have to say these challenging times brought the community together.

we had a unique opportunity here. was an opportunity to look at the district and assess where we might need something. we need a bit more of everything. we broke it down into different categories. we looked at economic development and change offering. people were accessing, you know, nightlife, food, or shopping differently out of the pandemic. we wanted to look at marketing and what it meant to get the news out about what we were doing in the district. looking at our own organize as well and what we would need to get that out there. also creating a safe space. we are creating a safe and secure area. our locals in particular you

can go shopping anywhere in the bay area. any of those places will look like any other place. in san francisco, you are somewhere special. this is a unique place and we needed to get it right. we have done that work and continue to support our district and see different ways to do business here. to be creative and innovative. we were able to change the planning code to make it more flexible to do business here. we are the c3r. we have three floors of retail maybe today we don't want two levels maybe we just want one level instead of too much retail we need a school or something else. very exciting times and really

interesting people and ideas. >> that's great. >> so, i guess, finally, what do you have for san francisco residents and businesses to be apart of this. >> this is the gateway of san francisco. it only drives. right now, we are so many and still love our great city and what we would like to see. this is san francisco and the residents. look around, have a coffee. listen to music on the weekends. we have so much to offer union square. with that, support these businesses. we have a number of openings, a number of businesses betting on union square. in fact, we have a new hotel.

the owner is from back of house, that's the name of the organize. they brought us several other residents and now this wonderful restaurant, i italian restaurant. this is on top of the old restaurant. it will have a rooftop and one of the largest in san francisco. it's a london based business abdomen and betting on n square. we have a great bar scene popping up and speak easy and pch. hawthorne, school. this is the place to come down and enjoy. come, don't forget union square is the place to be. certainly in the years to come. a very difficult time of

course for any major city. we are dealing with the same thing. explore and support our businesses here. we'll continue to thrive. come on down, you will be wildly, also surprised at how beautiful it is since we are still blooming. >> thank you, that's great. it's great to hear your optimistic outlook on restoring this part of time. >> thank you for having me and taking a little time to showcase our heart of san francisco. >> thanks again. >> thank you. >> that's it for this episode. we'll be back with another one shortly. thank you for watching.

you'll hear a chime indicating your time is almost up. when your allotted time is reached, i will announce that your time is up and take the next person queued to speak. please speak clearly and slowly and if you care to state your name for the record, i ask that we silence any mobile devices that may sound off during these proceedings and finally, i will remind members of the public that the commission does not tolerate any disruption or outbursts of any kind. at this time i will take roll commission. president matsuda here. commission vice president nageswaran here. commissioner campbell here. commissioner foley, present. commissioner

vergara here. and commissioner. right here. we expect commissioner baldauf to be absent today. first on your agenda, commissioners, is general public comment. at this time, members of the public may address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission, except agenda items with respect to agenda items, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes. please come forward if you have any comments. not not on any agenda items. seeing none. public comment is closed and we can move on to department matters. item one department announcements. good afternoon commissioners. richard craig, department staff, the only couple of items that i have for you today are, to provide an update on our landmark designation work program, the sacred heart parish complex will become our next city landmark, effective on april 26th, 2024, i provided an update at our last

hearing just to note that the board of supervisors kind of provided some additional feedback on the landmark designation itself, and included some interior elements into the designation, and also refined the land marking to also landmark the bridge connection, which were items that the hpc discussed at the designation. hearing the other one should just remind you is the california preservation foundation conference. annual conference is occurring at the end of may. specifically, it is happening from may 29th through june 1st, so registration is open, the conference this year is a great opportunity, to obtain any preservation credits that you need, including aia as well as landscape architecture credits, and conferences occurring in los angeles this year centered in the biltmore hotel. and that is all i have on my end. any, presentations by department staff? yes, i think alex westhoff of our staff is

presenting on some work that he's been doing in lgbtq preservation. great great. thank you. any commissioners planning to attend? if there's nothing further commissioners we can move on to commission matters. item two consideration of adoption draft minutes for april 3rd, 2020 for members of the public, this is your opportunity to address the commission on their minutes. again, you need to come forward seeing none. public comment is closed and your minutes are now before you. commissioners motion to approve. is there a second? i second thank you commissioners on that motion to adopt your minutes. commissioner campbell. yes, commissioner. vergara. yes. commissioner wright. yes, commissioner. foley i. commissioner warren. yes and commissioner. president. matsuda. yes. so move. commissioners. that motion passes unanimously 6 to 0 and places us on item three. commission comments and questions. any commission

comments, questions or disclosures? you can. yes commissioner. so there is an event on may 23rd at aia san francisco's new center for architecture and design. that's at 140 sutter street. and it's looking at a handful of adaptive reuse projects throughout the city. it's called new again, old buildings reimagined. and our very own chris foley will be a panelist on that. i have personally purchased a ticket to attend, and i think it will be a really great insight into some adaptive reuse projects in our city. great. thank you. can you forward that information to jonas and have him forwarded to all of us? you bet. thank you. any other questions or comments from the commission? seeing none, we can move on to consideration of items proposed for continuance at the time of issuance and to day. there are still no items proposed for continuance. placing us under your regular calendar.

commissioners for items four, a and b case number is 2024. hyphen 002527 lbr and 2024 hyphen 002529 lbr for the properties at 1581 webster street and 2335 clement street. legacy business registry applications. commissioners, i need to recuse myself on agenda item for a 2024 2722527 lbr. motion to recuse president matsuda. second item for a second. thank you. commissioners on that motion to recuse commission president matsuda from item for a commissioner. campbell. yes, commissioner. vergara. yes, commissioner. right yes, commissioner. foley. hi. commissioner. warren. yes commissioner. president. matsuda. yes. so move. commissioners, you are hereby recused. commissioners, before we begin the staff presentation, i just wanted to take the opportunity to introduce one of our staff members who is presenting in front of you for

the first time. we just want to welcome justin cran. justin cran is a planner two who recently transitioned from our transportation demand management program to the district four development review team. prior to joining the planning department in april of 2020, justin completed his master's of urban planning and development at cleveland state university. while in graduate school, justin was a service management intern for the greater cleveland regional transit authority. outside of work, justin is involved with the local music scene, assisting with planning and promoting events. while he's not working or dancing, justin enjoys spending his free time outdoors, especially wandering around and exploring the city. so we want to welcome justin today. welcome, justin. welcome hello, commissioners. alaina moore planning staff today we have two legacy businesses before you. staff will give presentations and afterwards, business owners and members of the public will have a chance to speak during public comment. thank you. elena. given the recusal, we should just take up item for a separately and then we'll take up for b. okay. so it

works well today because there are only two items. but okay, in the future we might figure something out okay. so then maggie can present for a first. good afternoon, commissioners maggie dong planning staff the first legacy business application that is before you is for nihonmachi street fair, located on the southwest corner of webster and post street in the japantown neighborhood. the street fair itself was founded in 1973 by steve nakajo, ron kanzaki, and kenny kanzaki. the nonprofit organization that oversees the street fair was actually incorporated in 1988 and run by the three co-founders until grace was appointed as executive director in 1998. so this year would be their 50th year that they are hosting the street fair, the annual event is staffed, produced and organized by volunteers, initially it

started out as a four booth fair and the event has grown significantly throughout the years. the fair is held every august in the heart of japantown and celebrates the diverse asian american pacific islander communities, and the mission of the nihonmachi street fair is to engage and develop young asian american leaders through the development of building community. as at the street fair, there is local entertainment. the doggy world parade, the asian artisan area children's world, which offers, asian inspired crafts and the sounds of thunder car show. over 30 nonprofit aapi organizations are present at the event, along with up to 100 vendors selling asian inspired goods. this business is committed to safeguarding cultural performances, youth leadership and mentorship, the street fair and celebration of aapi cultural heritage staff supports this

application and recommends a resolution to add nishimachi street fair to the legacy business registry. and this concludes my presentation for the nihonmachi street fair. thank you. with that, we should open up public comment for item four, a, on the webster street, legacy business registry application, if members of the public interested in speaking could line up on the screen side of the room or to your right, come on up. good afternoon, commissioners, and thank you, my name is grace horikiri. i'm the executive director of new street fair, and i want to thank you for and the hard work of the planning, the legacy business program and as well as nikki yoshikawa, who really kept pushing me to apply for the legacy business, japan town, as you all know, has, i believe, 14 legacy businesses. and hopefully with us it will be 15. but the street fair itself very

important organization to celebrate aapi communities, it you know, this year again, it is our 50th. so we're planning to have a big, celebration, but not only at the street fair, but we do have pop up events. we have concerts, you know, at the peace plaza, and those include our community, our pride, which brings all the aapi cultural performances. we have kokoro. so which brings together the western edition connection with japantown, and this year, for the first time, we're going to do a love is love, which will bring in the lgbtq plus community. so again, thank you so much for hearing and listening to us, and we look forward to going to the second commission hearing. thank you. good afternoon, commissioners, my name is melissa bailey nihei, and i'm speaking in support of

the approval of legacy business status for nihonmachi street fair. neil gorsuch street fair has played a huge role in my professional as well as my personal involvement within japantown. although i've only although i have been a part of the planning committee for only a short time within the 50 year history of the festival, i have been honored to be able to witness it grow under the leadership of grace horikiri and pat fong, and honored to count these two women as not only my mentors, but also my ohana. i am grateful to have the opportunity to witness this historic moment in nsf's history in this important anniversary year. thank you. good afternoon, commissioners. i am doctor emily murase, executive director of the japantown task force, and i just want to speak in strong support of this action. today, the nyholm street fair plays a very, very important role in japantown, and a distinct role from the sakura matsuri. the northern california cherry blossom festival. i did bring

copies of the program for commissioners this weekend is the last weekend of the cherry blossom festival, which is, in its origins, was really meant to emphasize us-japan relations and hosted japanese delegations. nihonmachi street fair is really a grassroots, asian american, celebration that's rooted in the people who live and work here. so that's the distinction between the cherry blossom festival and the street fair. and i just want to, really give kudos to grace horikiri pat fong. these women do not sleep in preparing for the nihonmachi street fair. it's all volunteer. they do not get paid for their work, so we hope to see you this weekend at the cherry blossom festival and we hope you will approve legacy business status for the street fair. thank you. i think your mic is breaking by the way, anyway, good afternoon,

commissioners. my name is woody labounty. i'm the president and ceo of san francisco heritage, and we completely endorse and encourage the inclusion of the nihonmachi street fair to the legacy business registry. on a personal note, i used to sleep overnight at my best friend rich lanier's house on sutter street so we could get up early and hit the street fair early. i won't explain what we did at the street fair at the time, it might have been unauthorized, but we enjoyed ourselves immensely, and i can't believe it's 50 years now, so please, consider it for inclusion. thank you. last call for public comment. seeing none. public comment on item four a is closed and it is now before you commissioners. commissioner foley, thank you to all those who spoke. so i was at the cherry blossom festival both saturday and sunday spending money and drinking some world

beer. so thank you. and full disclosure and i've been to the other fair multiple times, and i'm really happy you're here and we'll get this thing done. thank you. commissioner. right. so i want to thank the applicants and also, city staff for, for this application. it's just really clear to me how, significant that this is to the community and to the culture of san francisco. so thank you very much. any other comments, commissioners? motion to approve . i'll second that. thank you. commissioners, if there's nothing further, there's a motion that has been seconded to approve or adopt a recommendation for approval. commissioner campbell. yes, commissioner vergara. yes. commissioner. wright. yes. commissioner. foley i and commissioner warren. yes. so moved. commissioners, that motion passes unanimously, 5 to

0. commission president matsuda. if you would be so kind to return, we can move on to item four. b for the clement street matter . hello, commissioners. my name is justin cran with the planning. planning staff. the legacy business application that we have in front of us is for gas, light and shadows antiques, which is a 48 year old antique store that's located at 2335 clement street, between 24th and 25th avenue and the outer richmond neighborhood. in addition to the and in addition to selling antiques, the business offers photo restoration and recycling services. the business is best known for its collection of bakelite jewelry, which is a early to mid-century like style of vintage jewelry, which was made from the world's first

synthetic plastic. the business has been a neighborhood institution for the past five decades, not only as a store, but as a social space for those with shared interests. beyond the store. the owner, phyllis nabhan, has dedicated her time in store services to assist with neighborhood events and various philanthropic ventures. those include palma kids runners as well as the community improvement service, you know, they provide, photography services and such like that for these events and philanthropic organizations. sorry, the business has also been, well recognized by local media and has won multiple best of awards. gaslight and shadows antiques is committed to safeguarding accessible antiques, photo restoration and recycling services, as well as its commitment to being a positive impact on the neighborhood. staff supports this application and recommends a resolution to gaslight and shadows antiques to the legacy business

registration, this concludes my presentation. thank you. thank you. with that, we should take public comment. members of the public, this is your opportunity to address the commission on item four. b for the 2335 clement street matter. good afternoon, commissioners, and thank you for being here. do you want to lower that thing down? you can't hear me, so and thank you for the legacy business program. we greatly appreciate it. so i am phyllis nabhan, proud owner and founder of gaslight and shadows antiques, a cherished establishment in san francisco bursting with vibrancy, warmth and charm, the store welcomes all it deserves to be a legacy business. i have poured my heart and soul into the store for nearly five decades. born and raised in san francisco and still live in the

richmond district, i've witnessed the city's evolution firsthand. my dedication to this store has remained steady. gasoline, shadows, antiques is a living tapestry of history. every item holds a story, a link to past errors that enrich our understanding of the present, offering affordable vintage treasures, enthusiasts of all ages are welcome. young people in particular find inspiration in the teachings as knowledge is given about each artifacts. origins and craftsmanship. the store is dedicated to recycling, repair and preservation of treasures for from forgotten times services like consignment and photo restoration ensure the cherished memories are preserved for generations to come. gasoline, shadows antiques has weathered numerous challenges from economic downturns to

natural disasters. yet through commitment, determination and passion, it has remained a beacon of resilience in the community. it is adored by many, having earned numerous awards, recognition and triumph triumphs over the years. gasoline shadows antiques serves as a sanctuary of serenity, a place where time slows down and the past comes alive. i am filled with optimism for the continued preservation and celebration of the store. it stands as a vital cornerstone in san francisco's cultural landscape. the support of small businesses like this is paramount to maintaining the city's vibrancy, beauty and diversity. thank you. thank.

good afternoon commissioners. my name is woody labounty from san francisco heritage. and, phyllis and gaslight and shadows store is why the legacy business registry is so great, not only is she just a stalwart, business person out there, but she is a community dynamo, everybody knows her. she is, like, an important, pillar of that sort of part of the richmond district. and it's through her business that she can have such an impact, if you haven't gone out there, you should go to that block. you should see a movie at the four star, have a hamburger at bill's, and then have a stroll through gaslight and shadows, and you're going to be in a different world. and like she said, a quieter, more serene and richer world. so please, support this inclusion in the registry. and thank you. thank you. any other members of the public wish to offer. okay. seeing none, public comment is closed. this matter is now before you commissioners, commissioners. commissioner.

right. so again, thank you to staff and to phyllis for your work and for your application, i have a new place on my list of places to go. this is, you know, i just learned about this business through the application process. so, after hearing also your description and reading the material, i'm really stoked to come out there. so i'll be seeing you soon. commissioner vergara, i'm looking forward also to visiting your business and, it's a no brainer, right? for the historic preservation commission to support the landmarking of an antique store. so congratulations, commissioner campbell. thank you to the staff for putting this together. and thank you, phyllis, for what you bring to the community, it's clear you have built something really special. small businesses

like yours are so important to san francisco. i just want to highlight, too, that i feel like this is a time when people need a sense of belonging more than ever, and it sounds like that's what you're doing. in addition to the products and services you provide. so thank you for that. commissioner foley. phyllis, you're the best. thanks i'll move to approve. i also wanted to thank you. phyllis, you are kind of the founder of the green movement in terms of reusing and repurposing things. and i've been to your shop a number of times, and i know that commissioner. right. will like this shop because we also shop at the same type of shop. so i'm sure that the two of us will run into each other at your shop. you you definitely have a very unique, business and, and we thank you and mr. carrillo for supporting that. and i think you'll find all of us on clement street very soon. and there is a motion right there has. do i

hear a second? second. thank you. commissioners on that motion to adopt a recommendation for approval. commissioner campbell. yes, commissioner. vergara. yes, commissioner. wright. yes. commissioner. foley i. commissioner warren. yes and commissioner. president. matsuda. yes. so move. commissioners. that motion passes. congratulations 6 to 0. we'll be there. commissioners that will place us on the final item on your long agenda today. number five, case number 2016. hyphen 013156 sv. hyphen zero four. for the sf survey findings. this is for your consideration to adopt, modify, or disapprove the survey findings for the upper filmore neighborhood commissioner district i, if i understand correctly, the japantown neighborhood commercial district portion of these findings is being omitted. commissioners, before we start, the staff presentation, i want to introduce another new longtime new staffer who is presenting for the first time in front of

you. i want to introduce you to ashley lindsay. ashley is one of our most seasoned city planners, with nearly eight years of experience at san francisco planning department. ashley's expertise bridges the realms of land use development and community engagement, with a focus on inclusive representation and community led initiatives. graduating with dual degrees in civil engineering and urban studies, followed by master's in urban planning or urban and regional planning from the university of california, irvine. ashley's comprehensive background positions her as a collaborative strategist, ensuring successful project execution and fostering meaningful community partnerships. we want to welcome ashley to hbc. welcome, ashley. i didn't realize this was your first time. yes. great. glad to be here. thank you, rich, for the introduction, good afternoon, commissioners. my name is ashley lindsay, representing the planning department and i'm joined by my colleague melanie bishop. together, we're here to present the findings of the san francisco citywide cultural resources survey, which will refer to as sf survey. throughout the presentation, as

we proceed through our agenda today. i'll start by providing a comprehensive overview of sf survey. then i'll highlight the community partnerships we fostered, which have been instrumental in developing the draft findings. following that, melanie will delve into the draft findings. i'd like to highlight that we received a request for continuance for the japantown survey findings portion this morning. so today's focus will be only on upper fillmore findings. finally, melanie will conclude by outlining the next steps that lie ahead in our survey efforts. first, i'll cover the sf survey purpose, methodology, and the broader significance of our efforts in preserving cultural heritage in san francisco. sf survey is a collaborative, multi-year effort supported by the san francisco planning department. our primary objective is to identify and document places and resources of cultural, historical, and

architectural importance to san francisco and its diverse communities. while our focus primarily centers on the tangible elements of our cultural heritage, such as built environment, we recognize the importance of also acknowledging the intangible aspects that contribute to the fabric of our city's identity. sf survey has two main goals. firstly to support community led cultural empowerment efforts by forming partnerships, organizing programs and advocating for historic preservation incentives . secondly, it aims to simplify the evaluation of historic resources for regulatory processes like the california environmental quality act, building permits and development projects. this initiative seeks to amplify community voices and narrative through collaboration and the development of various methodologies and programs. additionally, sf survey aims to

streamline the evaluation process for approximately 120,000 parcels in the city. understanding a property's historical significance helps us facilitate compliance with regulations and refine our development practices. for instance, if a property is labeled a historic resource, it may qualify for regulatory protections under sequa. this also means owners could benefit from alternative building codes like the california historical building code. they could also potentially be eligible for preservation programs. incentives like the mills act or local recognition like landmarking or being listed on legacy business registry. our methodology for sf survey consists of various interconnected components. first, community engagement we rely upon input from community members and critical

consultation to develop inclusive findings. through this level of engagement, planning ensures that the significant aspects of the city's history, as valued by respective communities, are shared in alignment with their preferences and desires. second is the citywide historic context statements. this foundational document guides our fieldwork and our decision making by categorizing sites thematically, helping us assess our significance and rarity accurately. next is fieldwork research, and evaluations. our teams collect data, conducts research, and evaluates properties across the city using a three phase approach. pre survey in field and in-office data collection. fourth is findings and adoption. surveyed properties receive a historical resource status code, simplifying their designation as either category a, which is a historic resource or category c

no historic resource. present public hearings are then held for adoption by the historic preservation commission, and last but not least is sf cultural heritage, our online platform, powered by arches, which serves as the culmination of our survey efforts, sharing findings, community submissions and historic research to create a comprehensive digital inventory of san francisco's cultural resources. each step of our methodology plays a crucial role in preserving san francisco's cultural heritage. since 2020, our team has been diligently working on the development of the citywide historic context statement and engaging with communities. pilot fieldwork commenced last year, and we officially launched fieldwork at the beginning of 2023, with over 120,000 properties slated for evaluation. we foresee the project extending into 2027 and beyond over the next several years. our efforts will span

across san francisco, focusing primary on previously unevaluated properties eligible for assessment, which is 45 years or older by the survey's conclusion. to maintain accuracy and uphold current standards, staff have been conducting. audits of evaluations citywide. you can access the current sf survey phasing map on sf cultural heritage and the sf property information map. we are a small but dedicated team of full and part time staff, supported by a large internal and external network. this includes contributions from our community partners, consultants and all of you. together, we're making progress in our survey efforts. our workflow follows a systematic process. first is informal gathering. gathering information gathering. we start by compiling existing data, including historic context

statements, past documentation, and unadopted surveys. this lays the groundwork for each property evaluation. next is field work. our team conducts on site assessments, capturing photographs, evaluating alterations, and collecting community stories to enrich our understanding. third is research and evaluation in the office. we delve into, comprehensive, providing a comprehensive baseline for each property which includes assigning architectural styles and typologies and assessing associations with people's organizations and community narratives. each property undergoes evaluation against a minimum of two historic context statements, one being architectural and the second thematic for properties identified as historic resources. additional information such as research findings, period of significance, and character defining features are documented . last is review and adoption.

all work undergoes rigorous internal review before being shared for public review, including presentation to the historic preservation commission. upon adoption, the property information map is updated, reflecting draft findings and transitioning properties from category b to either category a or category c. this methodical approach ensures transparency with our process. with the adoption of san francisco neighborhood commercial buildings historic context statement in 2022, along with the existing unadopted neighborhood commercial building survey information, we've prioritized our efforts with phase one concentrating on neighborhood commercial districts as outlined by the planning code and zoning map of san francisco, so the sequencing of future phases will be determined by factors such as community readiness, the status of historic context statements, and our team's capacity. to

date, our department staff has successfully completed initial fieldwork, research, evaluate, and engagement for upper fillmore neighborhood commercial district. the upper fillmore ncd spans fillmore street from jackson street in the north to bush street in the south, with additional sections along california and pine streets. in subsequent slides, melanie will go into the specifics of this geographic area and provide insights into the phasing plan for the lower fillmore area. next, i'll cover community partnerships, our community engagement framework was developed in close consultation with erica rebay of incommon. it serves as a roadmap for the engagement and collaboration strategies that will guide and inform sf survey. it's important to note that sf survey community engagement framework is designed as an adaptive process, meaning that we will continually refine

and adapt our approaches based on new information and evolving community needs. this adaptive approach allows us to stay responsive to emerging challenges and opportunities as we work towards a more comprehensive understanding of our city's resources. this graphic illustrates the relationship of our various interwoven strategies with one another, and to the survey process, which helps create a feedback loop. the strategies consist of community briefings, neighborhood chats, collaborative collaborative groups and workshops, public programing, community forums, the internship program, and digital platforms and media. furthermore, these engagement strategies would further racial and social equity through partnerships and collaboration, knowledge sharing and cultural awareness. we've developed and utilized a range of tools and materials to share sf survey information and engage the

public in the development of our findings, including the web page, informational postcards, 20 day mailed and emailed notification, and information meetings. during phase one of the sf survey, outreach efforts marked the initial implementation and refinement of our community engagement framework, which has been instrumental in guiding our approach to outreach. the graphic in the right hand corner offers a visual overview of the engagement approach our team employed to establish community partnerships before, during, and after fieldwork. the larger table provides a comprehensive list of all engagement activities conducted to support the upper fillmore findings, notably, a significant portion of these events were conducted in collaboration with japantown task force, facilitating meetings with community members. by implementing these strategies, we fostered

community partnerships and other key community based organizations which supported increased participation in capacity building. we introduced innovative tools like community stories and integrated community feedback to enhance accessibility and effectiveness. additionally, we documented community identified approaches and developed the community input dashboard, a tool designed to acknowledge, honor, and preserve cultural heritage. i'd like to offer a broad overview of the community input dashboard mentioned in the previous slide. this dashboard serves as a vital tool for both staff and communities, facilitating the tracking and advancement of key concerns and interests. recognizing the importance of sustained dialog with community members, we developed in partnership with incommon, this tool to foster ongoing partnerships and efforts. the

dashboard aggregates input collected during various meetings, workshops, briefings, and events through qualitative analysis. emerging global themes are identified and synthesized within the dashboard. this helps staff utilize or staff utilizes this dashboard to monitor progress and coordinate approaches. additionally, it serves as a means to maintain open communication with community moving forward, targeted outreach will continue to engage property owners eligible for historic preservation protections and incentive programs. department staff will also continue research efforts to support the designation of future san francisco landmarks, identified through the draft findings. with that, i'd like to now pass it off to melanie. thank you. thank you. thank you, ashley, and good afternoon, commissioners. melanie bishop, department staff, today i'm going to

provide an overview of our sf survey findings for the upper fillmore neighborhood commercial district. department staff conducted evaluations in the upper fillmore neighborhood commercial district using information from various community led efforts. department documents, historic context statements, and information provided by community members. importantly, property evaluations also incorporated feedback documented in the community. input tracking or community input dashboard included in your packets. in the upper fillmore neighborhood, commercial district, we surveyed 96 properties, 61 properties were found to be historic resources individually or part of a historic district, and 34 properties were found ineligible. 28 properties are pending evaluation due to the completion of relevant historic

context statements. these findings are documented on the map here. that's also included in your packets and on the sf cultural heritage site. category a properties are keyed in orange category c properties are blue, and the hatched area shows the boundary of the discontiguous upper fillmore neighborhood commercial historic district, which was identified as part of our survey work during this round of findings, we have also identified properties associated with intangible cultural heritage that may be helpful in further developing our intangible cultural heritage methodology. as ashley mentioned, we have done a lot of community engagement. this includes, we attended the upper fillmore merchants association meeting in august of 2023 to vet the findings for the upper fillmore ncd and hear their

feedback. this slide here shows some of the questions and concerns that we heard. in particular, we'd like to elevate what we heard from merchants that it would be helpful for our team to create a capacity building video explaining the benefits of historic designation and providing information on how to research your property. this video could also be used as a resource for merchants and property owners citywide. i'd like to walk through two properties that we found to be individually eligible historic resources within the upper fillmore ncd first 1915 to 1917 fillmore street is eligible under criterion one for events and criterion three for architecture. the building is associated with the heyday of african american architecture, african american culture, and architecture in the fillmore. according to the african

american historic context statement that was recently adopted, many's can do club opened at this location in 1941 and was san francisco's longest running jazz club in one location before it moved to 1725 haight street in 1974. the building is also a notable example of the early victorian era mixed use property type, designed in the stick eastlake style on the right, 2222 bush street is eligible under criterion three for architecture as a neighborhood commercial building that displays exceptional architectural design , the subject property appears to retain the oldest and most intact victorian era storefront examined as part of the neighborhood commercial buildings survey. a list of individually eligible resources is included in your packet, with more information available on sf cultural heritage. as i

mentioned during survey, we also found a historic district, which we're calling the upper fillmore neighborhood commercial historic district. the discontiguous historic district is located along fillmore street between jackson street and washington street, with another cluster located between clay and pine street. a map of the historic district is included in the packet as well, and this historic district appears to represent the evolution of the upper fillmore area from a victorian era streetcar suburb through the jazz age. the area contains numerous, highly intact examples of commercial and mixed use buildings spanning from the 1870s to the 1920s. the historic district also includes a number of community identified properties of significance related to the japanese, american, and african american communities. a list of historic district contributors and non contributors is included in your packet and more information is also available on sf cultural heritage. and so we present

today's item findings for the upper fillmore neighborhood commercial district located in attachment b, with a recommendation for adoption. the resolution included in attachment a will need to be modified to include only adoption for properties in the upper fillmore, and there as follows 22 properties appear individually eligible for listing in the california register of historical resources as 30 properties contained in one historic district appear eligible for listing in the california register of historical resources. 52 properties appear ineligible for listing on the california register and 28 properties were not evaluated either due to age eligibility or pending completion of historic context statements or evaluative frameworks. i'll close out our

presentation by briefly talking about our next steps. so we'll continue to work with our community partners, including japantown task force, to further explore items identified in the community. input tracking dashboard. these include formal acknowledgment of redevelopment, development of the intangible cultural heritage methodology, and expanding the use of the community stories tool. i also want to acknowledge that japantown task force is currently working with students from usa to collect oral histories using the community stories tool, we'd like to be transparent that we're seeking feedback on this tool and looking for ways that we can make this nrsf cultural heritage site more accessible to the public. we'll also continue our fieldwork and our planning to return to survey the lower fillmore neighborhood commercial district this year. and finally,

i'd like to close with a thank you to our contributors, collaborators, collaborators and community partners. thank you very much. that concludes our presentation. great. thank you. with that, we should open up public comment. members of the public, this is your opportunity to address the commission on this item. good afternoon, president matsuda. commissioners, i am doctor emily morales, executive director of the japantown task force. and i really want to recognize the sf survey team. they worked very, very collaboratively with, community, leaders in and around japantown, especially melanie, maggie smith, ashley and rich, all of them were very, very accommodating in terms of meeting with community members, listening to our feedback, the japantown task force has a

cultural heritage, sustainability committee that met on monday, and a couple of my colleagues raised concerns about the findings. and that's why, we have asked for a continuance of that portion of the report, my colleagues did meet with melanie. she made herself available late yesterday to discuss their concerns, and i'm confident that their concerns will be resolved, but finally, i just wanted to say that working with erika uribe, was really fantastic. like, we're so excited about the community stories and this whole process has really forced us to stop and think about our own history and how we need to do a better job of documenting and capturing our history. and again, we want to thank the sf survey team for the opportunity. good afternoon, commissioners woody labounty from san francisco heritage. i also want

to, give great credit to the staff of the survey team and for their hard work and their dedication and the skill they obviously bring forward to work on these findings. i think the thing that we are having to struggle with in san francisco heritage is not with the findings individually or with the work that the planning department is putting into it. and i do think even though this came out of good intentions, this sort of piece meal, slice and dice way, we're approaching the survey, can leave some pretty gaping holes. as far as context, we're not doing the japantown section today, but for example, you cannot thematically evaluate properties in japantown without a very grounded and thorough understanding of redevelopment. and i don't think the redevelopment context statement is finished yet, and i do think that before you move into the lower fillmore street area, you're going to have to also take in redevelopment very seriously, and this sort of

slicing and dicing around commercial corridors, again, kind of loses the context with the surrounding built environment, because the corridors don't sort of exist in a commercial vacuum. they work in concert with the surrounding residences, again, i think this is all coming out of best intentions, and i'm very happy that the staff is flexible and responsive to changing the way the survey is done, and we might just need to tweak our way through this, the only other thing i will say is the upper fillmore reconstruction is another theme that i think is very important to the upper fillmore. after the 1906 earthquake and fire. that was the commercial corridor for the city, essentially, so just as you continue to, evaluate these findings, just consider reconstruction as another, important element, especially to the historic district that was identified. anyway, thank you so much. and again, kudos to the staff for all their hard work on this. last call for public

comment. seeing none public comment is closed in. this matter is now before you commissioners. thank you. commissioners commissioner foley, i mean, you know, as usual, just a great body of work. and i really appreciate both the staff and the community members coming out here and being talking about being collaborative and working together. and i also like the fact that the staff is constantly working on kind of upping their game and making it better. to woody labounty's comments, i think that everything can always be better, right? we can always all be better. but i think this body of work is great and i appreciate you. thank you. commissioner. right yes. thank you. i also would like to thank the staff for their hard work on this and to the community for their engagement in that process, i'd like to ask staff, a question, i think you have both received,

the letter from bill seguya, and i just wonder if you can respond to, to his questions about it, further landmarking and adoption of, you know, once, once the survey occurs, then, kind of moving these into the next stages. sure thank you for that question, commissioner. right, so if i'm remembering correctly. yeah, the question was, what do the findings mean in terms of landmarking? is that am i remembering correctly? okay. yeah. yeah he listed several, you know, sequa and several things in addition to landmarking. but yeah. so i can make it clear. yeah, i can respond a little bit to that, and then i might lean on mr. sucrée to provide some support, but how? we've always approached survey is that it's kind of the first step in that process. yes, i think having a good survey and

having a good foundation of information is important to take things to the next step in landmarking. it also makes it a lot easier for, i think it takes a lot of the burden off of community members, it can hopefully make the process a little bit faster, so i do want to acknowledge that i think, you know, eventually the idea is that we will move forward with landmarking. i think, that is an important role that our cultural historic context statements are playing and that all of our engagement is playing is so folks can let us know what is important to them and what they want to see landmarked, and we can kind of help foster that process and support it moving forward, so that's all to say. this is kind of the first step. we are flagging proper 80s through the survey, that may be eligible for article ten listing. so we are going to have

a list of those as part of the survey, in addition to the information that we're learning through our engagement and through our research. so i hope that answers that. yeah. no, that's that's very helpful. and i guess, you know, everything can't be done all at once right away, you know, i acknowledge that i think, you know, over the past few months where we've been talking about, pressures on properties especially related to housing redevelopment and the need to have, state landmark, designations, that's just something i guess we have to add into the mix, when we're thinking about places that might be where there might be more urgency. yeah, i think, yeah. thank you. good point, commissioner warren, so along

the lines of, commissioner. right. i was also thinking about the ones that are california register eligible, not just landmarks, but california register eligible. i think when you find these, spines of, you know, you're looking at a spine of a commercial district and areas of high resources that are looked upon by the housing element, we need to start thinking about how do we structure, these areas so that, we can have objective parameters to be able to set height limits, or, you know, other parameters so that we're, preserving, you know, the sort of the small town feel of these areas, which have have that, you know, human scale

to them, it's a difficult thing to navigate. i want to kind of understand how best to do that, but i think because we do have some pressure on us in some respects, i would want to understand where we are with, our current landmarks and how they're being addressed, i had heard that there may have been some meetings about that. i'm not sure. and then, second, the california register eligible properties, whether there were whether they are landmarks or not, whether we can have those be included, in, in sort of the mass, you know, submission to the california register. yeah, and then the last thing i wanted to say is just, you know, i've

heard from the community that we would like for the state office of historic preservation to have a position to take. and i know they're absorbing a lot from all kinds of jurisdictions along the state, but i think we need to start to roll. you know, the ball rolling, maybe by providing a memorandum or something to start to frame these things out and say these are the things that we see in doing the sf survey and what we see impacts to historic preservation in the redevelopment through the housing element, and how do we see, you know, roll these into the california register as, as, actual california register listings, i don't know if mr.

sucre has any more information. i know we've been talking about it over the past year. yeah, we're still in a holding pattern as we wait to hear from the state. so we send inquiries and are waiting for them. i think the honestly, the struggle is both staffing one on their end. they've had a lot of long time staff that have recently departed people with years of institutional knowledge, combo with the kind of like unprecedented nature of like what is going on in california's larger development landscape, right? as all of the jurisdictions adjust to new state laws and new requirements that are being put upon them. everyone has their kind of system of doing things, and, and we have not received anything formal from the state office, you know, dictating us in our status as a certified local government or providing

additional advice on how we deal with these problems. so right now, most of the jurisdictions are kind of handling them on their own because they have to flex them based on what their programs, how their programs are structured, how they interact with the various, laws that are now before us and basically plan it out with, in concert with, you know, our communities and our decision makers. how is that process going within the city of san francisco? are we we're we're in conversation. so we are we are currently talking with some of our supervisors about how we both, you know, plan for growth but also protect, you know, important neighborhoods and buildings within it. so, so, so we're we're we're in process is the short answer, and also just to address, the, i think it was the executive director of the task force. i really appreciated your comment. japantown task force, i, i i've

said this before, and i really believe it, that history is what you document. and you know what you seek to include. i think it is abundantly true that any of us, no matter what community in, are we are in or individuals we suddenly realize there's so much that we need to document and remember, in our own, you know, world, and it is a fantastic reminder, this sf survey and the outreach that they the planners have done, to start to, you know, remind people, hey, your history is important and we want to hear about it. and what do you find is valuable about it, so i think that is one of the best things about the racial and social equity as well as like the new, you know, sort of, the new face of the planning

department just, like, absorbing hate. there's a broader history here. let's talk about it. let's love it and enjoy it. and really, the richness of life is about all these different groups and people that built everything. so i appreciate your comment and i appreciate the planning department for doing all the work that they do, and heritage for having, you know, you know, the insight, right, from a perspective that we can also take from and, you know, incorporate and make this, you know, continually progressive. so i appreciate it. thank you. thank you, commissioner campbell. thank you. yeah. i just want to acknowledge the sf survey is such a huge lift, so thank you. ashley and melanie and the staff for your hard work on that. i, i think it's a fantastic start at my understanding. it's a, it's a document and a survey that can

live on and evolve and that there's a process for making those edits and changes and additions over time, so thank you. i'm in full support of this draft and, you know, addressing things like redevelopment and reconstruction, i imagine there's a process for adding those things in. that's correct. yes. i'm seeing a lot of heads nodding. so yeah. thank you, thank you, i just wanted to echo what commissioner wright mentioned or shared about mr. sergei's, email to us. i think i think the survey is great in that it provides us with a solid foundation, a solid, objective foundation, so that community organizations who may not have the expertise or the financial means to conduct these surveys can just start with a very high level of foundation to be more specific to their individual properties or districts. so i think it's a really good step, but maybe what we need to see or

we can start to consider is as you are going through district to district, is a list of those properties that are clearly eligible for landmark designation and to get to commissioner nagasawa's point, about figuring out how this can work out in the broader circle of making sure that we continue to preserve our historic resources. and then, miss dosukoi, i'm just thinking that i think we just need to be a little bit more proactive of, in terms of making sure that the state office of historic preservation really knows, number one, that we have this survey going. number two, what what its preliminary findings are. and number three, that we want to work with other municipal cities in the state of california to see how we can work with them to find ways to protect our cultural and historical resources. because

los angeles has done their survey, san francisco, i don't know what other municipalities are, but i'm sure there's we can work together to find some commonalities. and i would definitely, volunteer to be a part of that conversation so we can get that started. i'm just worried that we are going to wait, and then it not it would be too late. so i really want to make sure that san francisco definitely plays a proactive role. and then, for the survey team, you folks have gone way beyond what i think, was initially expected. so i thank you. i thank you for your patience. i thank you for your time and i thank you for your openness to continually, objectively receive feedback and comment. there was an article in the san francisco chronicle, i believe it was last sunday, that it did a pretty comprehensive study on the history of japantown. and i know that the

reporters in particular, who wrote that story, have a lot of data that they gathered. so i hope they would be willing to share with you some of the information, particularly about the history of redevelopment, not only about japantown, but about the larger western addition community. mr. sucré, did you have other comments? sure. i just wanted to address one of the kind of ongoing concerns that i think we've heard pretty frequently and kind of hits upon a little bit of our approach. i think the big thing that i think we need to remember with the survey, we're kind of in year five of it. right. and it took us basically this long to get to this point, which is why you're kind of seeing things in the fashion that you are. we're basically trying to advance things, but the building out the system has taken us this long in terms of both the data portions as well as kind of

uncovering the context, which become important for evaluating this. so that is a really important framework. and the one of the reasons why we move in this direction is because the converse to it is we have nothing, right? we don't have information or understanding of what's going on in these communities, and especially as, communities and members of the public plan for what's happening at their properties or within their neighborhoods. we are hoping to give them information as we as we can. so again, it's this concept that we don't want, perfect to be the enemy of the good. so it's one of the reasons why we've been very flexible with making sure that we're very responsive to community concerns. i think as you probably have heard from the staff presentations and beyond the community voice is really important to us. so we want to make sure that it's, well, representative of what we're hearing on the ground from the folks that are impacted, by

what's going on and what we would say, you know, both for the individual property owner, but for the neighborhoods, as a whole. so we understand that it's a challenge to kind of be dealing with the properties in this way, but it's our way of kind of taking the small bite at the apple, hopefully knowing that at some point, you know, we think the snowball will, will, will roll down the hill, quite frankly, to use the analogy, but we're we're still pushing that snowball up the hill, right now. so is really where we're at. so we get it. thank you, commissioner wright. yeah thank you, mr. sucrée. i appreciate that. and totally understand. and we're getting curve balls all the time in terms of pressures and different legislation and regulations. so, good to keep the i think the dialog here is probably, intended to keep, keep everyone,

apprized. and kind of have a public forum, a discussion and public forum so that any viewers or people concerned can definitely reach out to us and add to that, my, the question that i really had when i pushed my button for comment, is, just to clarify, we are we are currently extracting, separating the fillmore from the japantown, review. and so the areas where there are overlap, will continue to will the, the properties that have that are identified, relative to, the fillmore district will be included now, but it is additional information related to, the japantown district and properties, will be

layered in. and so that might affect the same properties that are already included for their, for fillmore, and layer in others in the same block or neighboring buildings, even, that have that have more significance to the japantown grouping, yes. commissioner wright that that's correct. the area that we're moving forward with today is the map that's located on page two of the upper fillmore neighborhood, commercial district, as defined by the planning code and zoning map. and yeah, i think that's absolutely true, and we'll continue throughout the life of the survey is we'll move forward with what we know now, and we'll get information from our community, from community stories, from further research, and continue building that, full story of the history of san francisco. and i think, adoption

is a scary word for a lot of people, but i think, we're really trying to stress that these findings are going to remain living there, not just going to freeze in time. we're going to add to them. we're open to changing them as we are corrected, as we continue to know more. so i appreciate you for asking that question. thanks. thank you. i assume that was was, how what what you were intending. and i just as part of the handout and the presentation that you gave, had the packet open to, the page where it kind of lays out in totality and shows kind of where there are overlaps of the different, different districts. so that's why i kind of was thinking what i was thinking when i asked. thank you, commissioner foley. yeah. just lastly, i mean, the planning staff has a budget both for capital and for human resources. so they're doing everything they can do and their budget is going to get cut

again. so, you know, i appreciate i think everyone on this commission really appreciates what the staff does every day with the resources they get. so thank you very much. and motion to adopt. i second that. there's nothing further. commissioners. there is a motion that has been seconded to adopt the survey findings on that motion. commissioner campbell. yes. commissioner. vergara. yes. commissioner wright. yes. commissioner. foley i commissioner warren. yes. commissioner. president. matsuda. yes. so move. commissioners that motion passes unanimously, 6 to 0 and conclude your hearing today. thank you everyone

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