obsolete is so deeply colonized dominated by big money, make it difficult for independent candidate. so you'd begin the process of getting, getting access to the ballots until february 1 in most states. and so that, that's why we, we've already got a last of a got oregon, that the brass we have a number already, but we're on the move for good 15 by the odds of march, and then 30 by june, and then 50 by november. well, let's just go to the genocide, then be a little more on your campaign. you know, fan of don't know, but you could stop by means the backing of genocide, stop the u. s. u k, back booming of syria. rog, him and if you a president, clearly it goes, trump says he would stop, it is a matter of ours. um would you, how would you do that and what is to be in your um your reaction to president biden . after all you are is a bolger of his in a way, last time around. i have always been a very,

very strong forwarding to me in critical but, and i've tried it before then anti fascist coalition. thinking that i'm going to speak to the issues of wealth inequality in mass incarceration to cut back on militarism, but i was wrong. and that's why i'm really convinced that there is no major alternative to the neo fascist option of trump. that by themself is not just in the neighborhood of genocide, ethnic cleansing is quarter of a part attack like regime. but he also is so deeply, deeply tied to a kind of a mirage. as mirage is thinking that he's actually going to be pro, labor only shows up for a few seconds and then pulls back and shuts down the railway. workers in this straight in the labor movement too often steal up for him, saying this to in the black community he brings in some black faces in i places. and yes deal reinforces policies that do in blackboard working people. and so i,

i do but by himself as uh, not only part of the problem, but no serious opposition to the escalating fascism in the united states. i mean, what changes it is, it does have changed since the last time i spoke to you on going underground. because uh for you, the beginning me was donald trump. now we're talking about a president. i mean, it's pretty rare that even though even international bodies like the world court can cost a verdict like possible genocide on a president. this is worse than anything trump could do. the mass mother, you know, many women and i mean, i think we need to have american lawyers. there was a south african lawyers and the others to bring justice to bear on the vicious judges genocidal attacks all impressions, palestinian brothers and sisters up the shift. i think that took place for me was that the,

i was under the impression that he actually was going to do something about the issues of poverty and even when he got powered child poverty in half the very important executive order and congressional legislation. but it expired in child poverty rate double again. you see, i come out of the legacy was i'm gonna have to listen to the come depaula when it comes with poverty on a ball is probably a little ball as homeless this i want to store credit union moved with $27.00 minimum weight. i want to make sure that wall street is not just wall, then i'm very much for workers control. i want, i want to see workers voice shaping the destiny of the nation. therefore, i'm calling for the nationalization. some of the major major monopoly in the beginning with a few boston and few on illuminated given the ecological crisis. but i want to put it on a national and civic oversight to make sure that they're not contributing to the session with profits in calling in the course in the future the plan. so that is a,

a better not just a progressive, but it's, it's a, uh, a deeply, deeply revolutionary fission and platform and policy. and i think that's what we need because we're living in the moment of multiple catastrophes. ecological pos, possible nuclear deeply economic and political united states, but also spiritual and more now we've got escalating levels of hatred and spinning out of control. we've got to organize 3 that's on steroids. there's some very deep moral and spiritual issues that need to be talked about in it. and in addition to the structural and institutional what, what the, i'm sure you expected, what are the kinds of, uh, reactions, are you receiving from the pro biden establishment that one's binding to when another time as president, despite, as i said, this is a natural court ruling that well could mean needs a co conspirator in genocide. what it means is fascinated note by the 1st

3 weeks when i announced in june i became the major threat to american democracy and the enable of american fashions. i said to myself, i wish i had that kind of power. what would be worth for work people in, in that enabling power in the mighty way, not just here, but around the world. i'm committed to those rest and all the rest of the middle east that aged in latin america. but all it meant was that i was calling into question their version of t. now you remember margaret? that's tina. there is no alternative. you must fit and accommodate yourself. become well adjusted to injustice and those and no, no, not at all. there is an alternative in my campaign, nothing but a moment in the movement. this band for to keep in mind you see change, i'm talking about when that come about when president won't come about with

disability. we're talking about social movements as on the way to fundamental transformation, the economy, nation state. and of course, i want to hear the american empire in order to dismantle the empire. we don't need 800000000, it's around the world. we don't need special operations. and a 130 countries, the american empire is in the k. we need to dismantle, in part of the dining space, needs to be one nation among nations, a decent nation among other nations. i'm an anti imperialist candidate. while if we put aside your big differences with trump, who is clearly the favorite to be the president of the next president, the united states. isn't that similar to what donald trump is saying when he talks about the waste of money on nato? when he talks about the waste of american expenditure on uh was in western europe is quite a slightly about the middle east because clearly has big donors from well enough to

quite we no worries. there is on israel, easiest most, most for the right wing didn't bite and is in terms of moving the capital of jerusalem. defer. and julia is really a lead district, deferring to the, the, the, the, the design as lobbies at home. no trouble way. i've just on that actually professor actually you can see trumpet doing the same thing is by them is as regards the ongoing one to me last month. oh no, because he didn't start and he was remember trying to be a fascinated people. he killed people and he typed me a part averaging. he encouraged those in yahoo, he is the one that talked about not just shifting the capital, but making sure that israel became even more and more acceptable with the various connection with the jump in that say in a moment worried about the vicious suffering and fell experience under apartheid region, so that in that sense, he doesn't have an integral his bone and his body, he's an isolation of this was very different. so he, with i,

i do view nato as an extension of american. the german is essentially american imperial foreign policy. and therefore, my critique of nato come from an anti imperialist point of view. here's critique and nato is. we're spending too much money, easier for you and don't deserve it. they need to secure it themselves, and we will pull back. but give them a window here by them and at the end of the world, not through the college actually. but given that is ran a cabinet minister is that don't about using is rarely nuclear weapons. and of course, we've never seen such tensions in terms of new data engines that drain rusher and nato. isn't the time then for a grand coalition against the bible and all that he represents. as regards a war and the military industrial complex or what it says on what kind of coalition is talking about. so here it is to say that you have to be tied to a certain consistency of costs and see in terms of the truth and condition is truth

to allow, so to speak. so for example, on the one hand, i mean you got, you got it wrong. now iran has their critique of bud. it's, it's, it's, at times it's very similar to mine, but i have a critique of a wrong. i'm not a supporter of mueller of deluxe. i supported women, live street, a low, i support those who are resisting against the form of domination with in the same is true with rush. rush itself was prove both by the expansion of nato. it led for what is going on ukraine, but i have my own critique, so the russian system and putting himself in terms of structuring the domination in the silent thing of this isn't a voices and so forth. so there's a moral consistency alone with a political solidarity, so that the coalition of that i'm top mattress, the function of re out politic. but it's also a commitment to true commitment to just as we're ever whatever context we talked about. let me put this in here,

isn't there off of aspiration. i mean tucker calls and on fox news used to say all sorts of strange things about immigrants. he doesn't have an enzyme fairly boating. well, even. but hasn't the change on people changing and becoming more, you just see it is isolationism, right? wing eyes laser right when popular is the right wing father. he's got a critique of the beats and now for the i have my critique of the late, but his critique to release them, say a month and word about mass incarceration at home that say among them word about and type poverty program. then say that mumbling word about white supremacy, and he was so pro white supremacists and continues to be in a variety of different ways at home. but as an end, as a problem, this will be guess various forms to be leads. it makes him look and appear as if he critique civilian pie was actually an imperial critique of empire. okay. who was like your running for president? it is now the time. and would you have to try and you like and get this affordable?

those people will remember what was, what, what, what was it malcolm, michael says supported the right wing senators view on the defensive extreme is now paying advice at yeah, no, no, another train deleted the other. if we're going to have person to support me, i'm going to be taking my stands based on how i understand. we're not a guard variety politician in that regard. i'm not going to sacrifice my commitment to choose and justice anywhere just in order to we in any way. now that's best, not how i yeah, that's not how i proceed right now. what i, what i do have for the west, i'll stop you that more from the 2024 us independent presidential candidate. after this break, the

after the nazis bower in italy, states foreign policy became extremely aggressive. benito mussolini needed glorious victories. he decided to achieve his ambitions in africa, despite the fact that formally libya had become an italian colony back in 1912. the vast territories of this country were not actually controlled by rome. the nazis

decided to put an end to this. but as soon as the religious order of the senate side stood in their way, the arabs did not want to submit to foreign power and put up fierce resistance. dividers against colonialism were led by the seats of this m inside order. omar l move star, who is nick named the lion of the desert for his incredible courage. despite the violent, bombardments and voice and gas usage, mass keyboard agents, and the imprisonment of the local population in concentration camps. the invaders could not cope with the era patriots for a decade. in 1931, omar l moved star was captured and sentenced the hanging type of trial. the hero of the libyan people behaved very bravely and rejected. pardon, pursuing a policy of genocide, italy was only able to temporarily suppress libya, 18th of the entire population, more than 100000 people fell victim to terror. however, just a few years later,

the entail you enroll, collapsed. in 1951, libya became one of the 1st countries in africa to gain independence. the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case of the med, most of the people i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also absurd. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing press for. so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deal. so what should i need to be living on that we have very close propaganda. you know a price here in your i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. the more questions ask a better. the answer is,

will be the of the welcome back to going on the garden. i'm still here with professor cornel west. 2024 us independent presidential candidate, you know, professor, we were talking about one about the fact that, as you designate the right wing of populist isolation, just like dr. carson are increasingly critical of u. s. foreign policy over here in the middle east. the big story as well as gaza is that the iran con, the who used to run focused on democratically elected leader. he made some comments about his over the role being conducted at the hands of a us conspirators and the so it reminds a lot of people in your raise your, in the middle east and africa and latin america about the us is sponsorship for democracy is it's causing the state department, what would you do is president, when it comes to all these different elements of the us administer us state that

acts in all parts of the global south to as they see it destroy any idea of democracy. you know, one of the thing you have to do as president is use the bully pulpit to educate american citizens, american citizens need to know the fundamental role of the c. i a fundamental role of us material foreign policy that over through democratic region, we can talk about what a model that we've talked about wrong. we could talk about where z a we start, but dominican republic can talk barbara needed. talk about panama. we need to be, they need to see the world through the lens of so many of our brothers and sisters in the so called global. so you see, so often there's not just a willful ignorance, but there is a, a refusal to acknowledge the prove about the ways in which the united states has been a anti democratic force around the world's been pro,

marked it always been obsessed with profit always been obsessed with the international monetary fund in the world bank, extracting resources as well as profit, but it has never ever been pro democratic in terms of empowering the poor and worky people's in africa and latin american ages. so is it fair to guide you to a function here? so people that understand my vision, because my vision is one that looked at the world through berlin's poor and working people here and around the world. and therefore, the policy that i would promote would be contrary to the international monetary fund. contrary to the world bank, i own empower poor and work the people that other one just create african board was the and asian board. while the latin american boys loved the which are simply partners with, with the international capital, to can 10 you to subordinate and dominate their own workers and their own for

people. i mean, trump a game coming from a very different philosophy. your philosophy is the right word to describe, but where he's coming from at all has similar views about the super natural structure. the certainly as big views of i'd be if we, i ca, i mean, i don't know is more than come with the weather mind about the f b i who knows, he doesn't like of job job has been talking about using us forces to inmate mexico . that is as imperialism, they can be. we had an 1840 stage more. they cocker. mexico took 50 percent of all and mexico i grew up in california. used to be mexico, texas used to be mexico. arizona used mexico over the u, as in beijing and mexico and a letter that dropped now using the same language. that's 19th century imperial language in that regard. so again, i don't see where the, there's any similarity to myself. and in trump, in that sense,

even though it is different than the neo live is dropped, presents his meal. fascism is a, is an alternative to the neo liberalism of, of, of by the flip side of neo liberalism is what militaristic, gaza, militaristic attacks of the human militaristic, latin american past africa at this very moment. well, neo liberalism can go with neo colonialism in military keynesian is, i mean, in fantasy as far as i understand of jumbled and his national security adviser was on this row. and it was trump who was offering a little of runs to venezuela. i if uh if, if uh what you're gonna do is to take the funding from the war machine and the war state and he has it on. that's education on housing, on free health care for ordinary americans. what are you going to do to the leads that have subjugated most of the people in the united states for so long? again, i have to say it, you know, trump,

so it organization was talking about american cottage. there's something very similar to your view about what is being done to the pool of working classes with united states over decades. but what will you do with dealing with that you're going to forgive it in a con is would be late in the black. it was, and the brown it was in a full but the blue waves the premises, very, very different lans to which is viewing the world. when he talks about sab, that's all but the plan, the, the, the can be gladly impart. yes, the right about it. but i will not but one inch when it comes to a position it takes, well, stay on the line and steal the line for your campaign. it is a better the general like the low lies, whether you do get it and then that is still a line of full life and he got his own life. i may sound some would say beethoven a bit of beethoven in that but but, but are you going to forgive these relates then due date is oh yeah, because they have to be brought to justice. be brought to justice. i'm talking

about wall street really, to me, how many wall street games went to jail, the inside of the trading market, manipulation, predatory lending and fraudulent activity is not one. and the bottom right now, one went to jail. i had thousands and thousands of my friends and partners coming out of the truck. ready side left side, sacramento, that in other parts and went to jail, but we just don't mind just not revenge them. and you know, i don't, i don't believe in vicious talk about revenge. i just want to just again, trump, this is obsessed with resent. you don't hear a lot of talk about justice and trump. it all, you know, the pressure is a against any president trying to bring in free health care, given that somehow or a financial power of that lobby. why do you think his that the, they continue to have such a power has the, or even the by the ministration admits the price of co pays and all of this private health insurance in milwaukee continues and the us taxpayer has to pay ever more

for it so it can end up in the company's profit sheets. we just don't have enough power, you know, to organize money is low, powerful at the moment and organize people, which means that people are not as well organized that we ought to be. but that the only thing that we end up changing in a way that i would like to change is, uh, is, is organize people, both on the streets going to jail, creating challenges, civic disobedience of the, the people who don't have other people still supporting the bible version of democracy by the democrats and they cowards. what is the role of cowards in your system as well? i mean, that's a wonderful question though, because i'd rather be of course, in the account myself, but the role of cowards of those who are willing to defer the powers that be for some kind of money,

a status title and cowardly. and this would come across color cuts across gender, sexual orientation, and nation. it's a human thing, and it has to do with those who have given up on any vision, those will sell to sold as so in relation to any vision that's changing the world, the name of poured and work and peak land is highly probation. how i mean, this is why you baked with just the days because it is reward. that's why you see so many black faces in high places with sol as sold and want to act as they have. their very existence is a litmus tests, a black progress, a human progress. when is crushing, poor people is crushing, working people, and get in the name of a versus the ink to generalize any of the bureaucratic categories that are out there that don't want to come to terms with the issues of class domination or imperial domination. don't want to come to terms with the light and predict when to port working people. yeah, jenny, ellen was in congress on answering questions. it was all the people of color of it

were. i senior easy obsequious questions and it was the white republicans, whereas can put new ones. anyone could see that is that a pro we want further questions from anybody and every body? i'm so craddick in that sense, but even still granite dialogue possible. and obviously democracy is nothing without a free press and you have a free press in the united states and that's where we got a cowardly press. we've got to press the dust is not willing to raise his voice directed to actually wrestle with some of the deeper questions that have to do with the future of america. there was a bipartisanship in, in, in the us press of the military expansion of the military budget. no serious pretense of wall street no stairs could take some corporate greed and silicon valley. you get that both democratic party, republican party,

both fox news and in as nbc, and they all had trump. any a trump is more popular than ever. yeah. that's true. that's true. as the as president. uh, would you immediately in this extradition from torture of julian? i sancha who kind of exemplifies of repress with the 1st day i part of june. ready so also for me a bu, jamal. uh, i would, i would probably like to ask for step charlotte. she could come home if she wanted to be all of those who would be, i'm have been a fairly incarcerated onto their political views. and i'm thoroughly convinced of my dear brother doing this, has been unduly, an unjustly treated owing to what exposing the crimes of the american empire. that's all brother julian de. and it's sad to see that the journalistic

establishment can't say a mom and word about their fellow journal. it just shows the level of the 5 percent as you know, brother randy credit going others. i've been talking about this with great trojan paul and i stand with what happens to politicians in the united states who advocate for free health care housing, education. they look like they're coming anywhere near power. as they say that the things like nato should be dismantled and the money should be spent not on killing machines, but on american progress, character, assassination. literal, assassination. marginalization as this is a tax to misconstrue miss, understand, but even given that intense bomb bar, the great tradition that you tell in and just to seeking, steel goes on my breath. that's the good news. that's the good news. it can never

be completely snapped out. never be thoroughly suffocated, even if they killed the body, the spirit in new body build on that spirit. that is the good news. so just to encapsulate that your campaign and won't mocks you at different a robot. kennedy to donald trump to genocide. joe, is these gold uh to encapsulate what is the platform platform of what is what is putting poor and working people at the center here in around the world of dismantling the empire on the sheet, democratic possibilities and also connect them to struggle to justice. the level of beauty, those musicians and the artists will play a fundamental role as we in that kind of spiritual awakening and political renaissance need to introduce america to the best of itself. that's martin king. as edwards a. ready rabbi, as well as dorothy day,

that's curtis mayfield and john coltrane. professor going out west. thank you. and that's it for the show. i'll continue condolences to the surviving the killing him guys in jerusalem will be back on monday, focusing on another us 2024 presidential candidate donald trump's. we can do a full, i'm a senior official who argues in a new book, and then trump is the swamp. he declares he wants to drain until then. keep in touch by all social media. if it's not offensive, we'll country and add to a general feeling undergoing tv on normal. don't come to what you and all that besides, i'm going on the grand see monday the, the one you did that you attempted to collect at the exit

amount. apache sat there for the show and then it will be a job to bluff. it goes in and out of it is uh, international stuff is the template for supplemented assessment, but to not to mention in person, once, did you lose? it asked who i can't. if i see the media, i love people, there's only 2 reasons to do, say with the city, the new country, from the service of the deals for the work, the don stimulus, the industry is little less money. the final says really left. so should william farmer shots, monuments, so we have court cash door to door for decision day, my lab. and what was that, man? what was that ridiculous funds? i put it in the midst of them one today and but you know, so that's what it was actual to settlement shows, tools or suspect, pretty shock journals on page to refresh the screen. those are the best do what i mean? there's a, there's

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