seal this country, these hair does not belong to you. these air belongs to france, and it's not up to you to suggest any solution. it's, i'm a chrome, the economics of history because he didn't know that while they were having their revolution, we had already circumnavigated the world. clearly not deterred by discrepancies between reality and fantasy macro. a speech also celebrated europe, addressing the migration challenge, which they basically paid to outsource to countries like turkey, to ease uh mauritania, and egypt, which last i checked weren't actually in europe, but they've outsourced everything else by this point. so why not that too? right, michael talked about europe reading the ecological transition, ask the farmers in europe, street jacketed by european climate change detached with the farmland, be spied on by european satellites to ensure compliance. how great that is, brought up europe's energy sovereignty and re industrialization. not so that's about germany in particular is still busy the industrialized thing. so they're not

quite on the other side of that. yeah. all the, yeah, has become more depended on price here. american liquefied natural gas. oh, and francis own elegy, imports from russia are now up 75 percent in the 1st few months of this year compared to a year ago. so i guess my call figures that people are so stupid that if he just says something enough times like in the speech, they'll just simply accept it all as objective reality before i begin to service them, is that the top of the agenda, the for of in st. petersburg as representatives of the country from around the world have gathered to address global security issues. we have to also speak with the m. m by so that's a russia, yes, as long as the importance of cyber security in combating terrorism. in particular, in this confidence uh the, uh, i should, uh was uh, focusing on uh much as of uh,

the new technology aspects and uh the, uh, what the things of the challenges. and that's why it would have some discussion about the site for security, but also the 2nd point of the agent that was on the complex in different parts of the word. and there was some focus on what's going on in the media least also other conflicts is like the conflict in our country, our government, illegal government to them and out of corporate thing with the special invoice of the you and the method of human uh for the actually positively to own it for us to actually piece uh, based on the truth, which is their last name for the last 2 years on an agreement to complete

a ceasefire in m. and well, that rolls up this new is i've always, it's great to have your company here on oxy international. let's take a break right now and we'll be back over the top of the all the the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to the cross stock. were all things are considered non theater lebeau, among the casualties as a result of israel's genocidal assault on gods, which includes suspension of international humanitarian law,

but also free speech across the western world. perversely, being pro palestinian and pro peace is condemned as anti semitic. the crossing palestine, i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he's a legal and media analyst in berkeley. we actually but so what i see is the director of the institute of middle eastern is la mac and strategic studies. and in rome we crossed to romano roberto. she is an author and the managing editor of the palestine chronicle. alright, cross lock rules and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it. teresa, if i can go to you 1st thing in berkeley, it seems like astoundingly there. there is a po brahms going on all across american academia. people are triggered, people are fearful. the police are being called in. what in the world is going on

here? i read it and looking at the image is that people are, are protesting against genocide and wanting peace. i mean, i don't think that's such a radical idea to protest about, but that's just me go ahead. it is not a radical idea to protest about this movement has been growing every day as the results of the interference by politicians. and by, i believe in organized movement against pulse time that's been operating for some time, even before the 7th of october. and according to that move, now, you know, people cannot say hello starting, they cannot say into plaza, they cannot say from the river to the sea. different states have lunches, flimsier gloss, allowing businesses to fire employees who are caught speaking out on palestine. so

i think this is part of something larger, and the student movement is acting on uh, you know, it is triggered by what is happening to them. so here in berkeley, we had a dean of the law school who had a student wearing who job, who stood up to speak at a dinner. he invited all the law students to and shouldn't even get to speak before he asked her to leave and said it was his apples. and this was written up in the nation. you know, and, and no, we haven't. and camp 9 and on the students are, are very galvanized. the problem i think is that the general public has been reading this media spend for some time the

a pro tell us starting tomas or terrorist therefore protel stein or terrorist. and yeah, but i mean, a fairly, you know, line or it is, but this is criminalizing speech, isn't it? i mean, it's really quite extraordinary. i mean, speaking facts, i mean, we can, i don't want to waste time on this program, but we could quote, is really officials about what's going on. and guys, it's all part of the public record. okay. i mean, repeating what they have the site is being criminalized to go ahead while i always say, i remember i told stories line that history would be a wonderful thing if only it were true. well peter, let's go back to memory lane. we always do this. 1970 kent state, the national guard, the saw ohio crosby stills in that in 1968 in

columbia university, they took over the president of the office, a debate or protesting against columbia is involved with military officials. okay. the same people, the same people who remembered that house in days of smoking don't been protesting the same day. yeah. well, on the same place we're talking about bringing in the national guard, and i'm saying, can't state you know what somebody told me, that said, no, this is columbia, as it now tend state. they've forgotten. what i thought was in boys and in my collective memory, peter that we, we just wasn't that long ago. and 11 more thing, what people are seeing sometimes these events that have happened to columbia, others have said, this isn't even on campus. yeah. because some of the events,

so this is an absolute dial follicle targeted misinformation, this information distortion product. and i, well, i typically line or what it is that, you know, i'm glad you brought up the 196 these, cuz i remember watching it very young on television. they were against war. that's what we're seeing now as people are against war in genocide. and it's nothing to do with anti semitism whatsoever. let me go to ramana in room. you know, it's really quite a sounding that i see. all of these news reports here. but children in gaza are still being 2 families. entire families are being decimated. i'm, i'm sorry, maybe a few students in america. i'll get, i'll get triggered. but i mean, are we missing the bigger picture here? go ahead ramada. of course we are and you know, we are missing the big picture because intentionally, the big picture has to be side lines. of course, what is happening in gaza is you know,

attendance how you doing work and we'll support dot ease indigo. and that should be punished and people should be held accountable for that. but nobody, a sanctioning doc, nobody's forwarding is what accountable for, it's clear, war crimes and crimes against humanity. but, you know, people who are protesting are now becoming though he's a witch hunt against them. and there was a witch hunt in the united states, there was a witch hunt here in europe. and of course the justification of the anti semitism is used as usual as a f, as mux queen. because no, nobody wants to talk about the crime for the minutes. what occupation, the office type, the racism. and ultimately now the genocide that unfortunately we're seeing a foraging in gaza. so this is used as a smoke skin as most screen. and it's incredible, but may do is intellectuals are actually, you know,

protesting this. they are saying that this is actually against the safety of, you know, of jewish people. and i think it's true a baroness time. they wrote recently an article for the harvard crimson saying that, you know, this method district tactics shouldn't be used at all. but unfortunately they are, and the fees and or strategy and or discount latasha to ease with and sign if people have own with used to cover up their crime. yes. but, you know, if i go back to our guest in berkeley, i mean, this is, we all should not be surprised here when we've been told all of us, you know, we have a younger folks older folks like mine on myself here. but you know, they're, they equating zine isn't with israel with choose, and this is the problem that we have here because they are there. this is a false pairing of these, of different topics here. and so if you're a design is and people are saying stop the genocide and zine is in the problem. of course they're not going to like it, but it has nothing to do with anti semitism. i refuse to let them do that to me in

the discourse. go ahead and berkeley there are of course, many jewish students in the movement against genocide. and that is a very difficult situation for those who want to cancel free speech on palestine and peruse the on calling for a ceasefire in gaza. and i think that those students at columbia have issued us several important statements clarifying their position and, you know, trying to ask not to be kidnapped into this, this course about and so much to them which is essentially irrelevant here. yes. so, um, but yeah, that's where the mainstream media it has been going. if you read every story the,

the in jack to paragraph or 2 about instead of someone says, and yeah, but also as a media you, one of the things that media line away, i'm sure you've come across a deep, passive voice is used all the time. people were killed, people were bombed, buildings were destroy it. where's the predicate, who's doing what to whom? and of course, as we've all pointed out here, don't mention occupation. i mean, there's so many words that are for bidding right now. i mean, these people are antithetical to what all of us were brought up in as a free society to speak. but you think go headlines. another history i, i'm in new york, i'm on the west side and during the, our own b, l. m. uh, the george floyd during the riot and the, the, these very same media fault for say, listen, protesters. unfortunately, supp protesters, i'm comfortable. this is when buildings were on fire,

they were plywood everywhere. people hide from see it on the box. i mentioned their names. this is the way it goes. do you know what fascinates these very same people today as to the protests in columbia? who's buying their tents? they're eating sushi, it's. there's marginalization of these people as crazy. who are the oh, the lead? i'm the daughter of the congress. some of this what she how, how dear she who are these people reading drums. we did the same thing during occupied wall street. and i ask people as a, do you remember doing great moments of protests, martin luther king's, i have a dream. i'm sure. traffic was backed up. they might have littered, i'm sure, during an admin pettis bridge and even civil rights moment. i'm sure these these moments now we're looking at decorum and drumbeat and,

and the way they look for people. let me just finish with this whole are sworn by virtue of their media status, to understand and appreciate it to the 1st amendment. they don't understand when it comes to doing the song, they don't, they, they just, they, they're aparadh checks their proxies for a government. they actually enable and in noble if you will, a, the crack down to free speech. it's on be livable habit line or at the same time is this is all going on. the congress voted for another down payment of the genocide. i mean, it's really hiding subordinate, the, the, the people that are experiencing genocide are not even part of the discourse. so this is extraordinary, and it's a 3rd at this point, i'm going to jump in, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion of houseman and state without

the the, [000:00:00;00] the, the welcome back across software. all things are considered, i'm peter, is about to remind you were discussing palestine. the okay,

let's go back to our guest in room and i'm gonna quote to benjamin netanyahu. the israeli prime minister. this is what he said to him is the last new cycle. what's happening in america's colleges, campuses is her rift. big anti semitic mobs have taken over leading universities of all people to be quoting and american media. when they, when we look at that, how much, how many journalists that have been killed in gaza and palestinians, and non palestinians and, and it, that's given so much more air time. but they're only a snippet, and that's why they're getting rid of picked talk because people actually can see the truth. ok, the main stream media just want in the waters a down completely, like i said, using passive speech where you don't really understand who's doing what to whom. so, i mean, this is what the western media prefers is to allow out and outside are meddling and american domestic politics. go ahead and room. yes. mainstream media is trying to serve, you know,

the agenda of power as usual. it's their job. absolutely. and you know, they're highlighting things that shouldn't be highlight, highlighted at all at nissan. how is this moment is always of worried about the possible arrest warrant and that should have come, you know, so this one on a go at if we want to to see this. but i think here what we are experiencing garza has exposed many lies, have exposed many contradictions. what you're seeing here is that, you know, it's even more than a crisis of representation. we are seeing that the liberal democracies are, you know, lying so openly, that is even difficult to justify, at the lies at all at let's think about the fact that 1st of all, it is not a democracy. if i can only speak if i am basically speaking the language of the system and of the power, it's not the democracy,

but you will not even speaking about the rights of the minority to speak out. we're speaking about the right of the majority because every poll in the united states and in europe is actually saying that the majority of people, once a heart, a ceasefire, gaza at once a has to, is where you work, crimes in gaza and, but we are see politicians, you know, basically a trying to impose something on the majority of the people. and these, these carry like these should concern every body. not only people who are now currently sticking out for college and for posting and right, or are protesting just wonderful students who are protesting and campuses all over toward the united states and turn over to what it should concern every body. yeah, and particularly if we look at western universities, these are the most privileged people of that society. okay. you know, let's go back to our guest in berkeley. i know a lot of people the don't really understand that. um, i actually prefer

a culture and i, and, and social movements and in philosophy, not necessarily politics. and what i see happening here is the entire enlightenment project being extinguished and, and in the light min project of liberalism that the west exported all around the world. sometimes and very often using force they were banned doing it themselves. remarkably, it is the global south, it says, no, no, no, no, we kind of like some of those ideas about freedom of speech and assembly, you know, all, but we kind of like that. it's hard, it's because of the impair, uh, colonial experience, but we're making our progress. the west is a jet a 2nd away completely. go ahead and berkeley as well. this is the thing people that have been told, and the general public in the united states has a rather different in our student population. and it's rather different than our

student population who happened to be posted in, or era, or a most one or jewish, who may have inform themselves more on this conflict. so, you know, people will say, well, why can't they attain palestine through peaceful means? have they not tried? have they not used every single apparatus that they can, has there not being processed in the international court of justice? was there not a you when ruling for a ceasefire? and then i'll tell people about the movement to, you know, go to go to the border at the cause of the various movements to overcome the blockade. they haven't even read about it. yeah. they, they don't, they don't know that and on. so i think, you know, the, the action of the students, not just the students, but uh, uh, so a little while ago,

the 4 zeros the locking of the bay bridge chair and the golden gate bridge. and this is being met with criminal charges of the and for some or kidnapping that to explain the model which really require. but what's, what's extraordinary. okay. someone is blocking a bridge. okay. sorry, you're going to be a little late for work, but they're not charging the people that are committing a gen. it's like, i mean, the, the, the iron, the whole business extorted, lionel, is it all about money? you know, it's donors. i mean, look at, we look at these ivy league schools, we have big donors say, if you don't fire this person, you don't rest of the students that will have actually paid money to go there and lived there. is it all about that? is that where it gets to the very top? is it money? does it money talks or yes, and you know, what else walks? what i can't believe are the number of, of a college professor,

a president who you think would be in to drills? because we have a congress person, the least of phonic, who will bring you in and say, what have you done? what have you done to, to of, to, to stop hate. and i would immediately, i wish somebody would say here, here's a list, tell me, what should i do here? you want to run the card that my cap is here. tell me what words i can say. here's the best part. i'm living, i told you in a fish bowl last week on a saturday when we can't get, we don't even know where congress is. i saw american congress, people waving ukrainian flags saying you, craig, you, craig, not america. at the same time, there was, you mentioned the israel legislation then guarding our surveillance laws. meanwhile, i'm turning to friends of mine, supposedly conservative,

supposedly lubbers of the constitution of liberty sitting back and doing nothing. and i ask these people as a, do you think this all began on october, the 7th? and 11 final word, they asked as one politician. what do you think about the house on the publish a new situation. he says, release the hostages and all are, well, somebody gave him these, these add these tried answers to say this, that doesn't even these politicians are like mine, a birds, they're, they're sac puppets. they're told, say this, and you will be fine. yeah. but they're cowards. they're all cowards, and they're also being paid. okay, that's their hot. and that's what when it gets to their value system, that is at the very top your, let's go back to room. remember, one of the things that i find really interesting and i think it is something we need to think about for a long time moving forward. is this the ultimate expression of what zine ism is all about? because with this project here,

it is intensely racist. it's intensely violent and it works with impunity. and what it does is it corrupts everything around it. look at the us congress, look at the british parliament. they've corrupted them. they've corrupted the media, they've corrupted everything. go ahead. the absolutely it is, you know, the very, the very essence of design is project was finalized. it's reaching this moment. but now the vanish project was a few questions because we have the paradigm shift in the war dynamics, you know, in towards balance. and this is so scary for them, and this was so scary for the empire in a sense. this is why i think the west is so keen on cracking down on these protests because there is a shift in the power dynamics and even in the ethnic composition, the students who are protesting. many of them are, you know, the outcome of what happened of these, and i'm a full, big environmental to,

to look into us after 911. and now they, they read fight. today i read the banner, one of the students saying the i me to start the site and now you want us to forget what we did, study a. so there are new priorities, i think even in academia, and he's going to be so difficult for them. this time around a, to escape from the paradigm shift that is blue ball and it's a movement that is, you know, very grassroots movement that he's talking to seek. basically, they're their benefits of, you know, of power and their own system. i knew it would take time, but i really can see that there is a way out of this, you know, re fixed after route to steps. so let's think zionism so far and basically avoid it to who did that accountable for all of its crimes. 12 years, it's sort of back tomorrow just in berkeley here. you know something that online or i'm thankful he's been joining me on a weekly basis for half a year talking about this here. does the,

the cleaning of calling someone anti semitic. it? does it have the same sting as it used to have? because if you say it's so often over and over again, the nothings anti semitic, it seems the problem is this chapter has gone deep into our society. it's in the department of defense which has $10000.00 employees. if anyone accused us you of them, i symmetric speech, so i work for them. and as you may know, they have a public affairs office, which calls you up to in the, to, as we'd like you to be on this program. here's the points we'd like you to cover. you're allowed to say, oh, respectfully disagree. i'm going to talk about apps, and then as soon as you finish, they call up your boss. so she was hands has submitted,

she was supporting terrorist and then okay, the state department, very much the same. so it isn't. and it isn't just the overt calls for, let's say, cease fire. and so i mean, as i hope that people can see how, how organized this is and then it will take organization to, to break. and there is our, our speaker in rome alluded to this. i mean, jamaica recognize the state of palestine just recently and joins the lives of many countries around the world to recognize palestine. but united states does sense. right. and on i, i agree with her i. so i then graphically running out of time here just wanted to make a closing comments here. amanda and i were speaking with for the show that there were people saying that, you know,

this is resembles the 1930s in europe. yeah. does authoritarianism is on the march? that's the comparison. you need to make as all the time. we have a way to think, my guess in new york, berkeley ending room. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our dc. and next time and remember prospect goals, the more expensive and i'm here to plan with you. whatever you do. do not watch my new show search like why watch something that's so different whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please, or do the have the state department to see i a weapons bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and

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