the, the, the, everybody just want to start off reminding you once again that we post the show every day. now weekly is how we used to do it. daily is how we do it. now, thanks to you, you asked for it. so you're getting it. we hold no punches, so look forward to phone number one. us president joe biden gives hope to julian assigned trip a number to the australian prime minister says when it comes to a song, enough is enough truth, bob. number 3, when you see how mr. biden says what he says, you may question his resolve to do it. i'll let you judge for yourself. i'm rick sanchez. this is directed. in fact the

. so the president of the united states was um, walking away after meeting and giving a discussion, press conference with the japanese prime minister for me. ok, shita. they were at the white house when a reporter asked him a question about julian, a search. now interestingly enough, the question seems to come out of love for you. here's why it happened though, the government almost drill. yeah. in case you hadn't heard, which is where a sondors from. and this is important. we'll talk about that some more later. is uh the government illustrate. yeah, it's formerly requesting, formerly requesting that the prosecution of a songy stop once and for all space. why? well, because aside assigned his cause, and it's become really, really popular and you know where it's become really popular australia in australia

that causes very but both among the people and the members of parliament. the members of panama just recently overwhelmingly voted for a call for him to be free. you know, they all started in parliament. in case you want to give too much credit to the prime minister. look at where this is coming from. let's talk about the people of australia. as for the people in australia, in a recent poll, 79 percent, almost 80 percent of the people of australia say it's time to do a song is freedom. so the people of australia are saying, why the hell is this guy not what, why is this guy in prison? the parliament of australia is asking the same thing. people all over the world are asking the same thing. now remember, australia is an important us our so maybe that's why in the past they didn't give a crap what their own people thought it was more important for them to have good relationship for the united states. right. or maybe not. so as the president is

walking with the japanese prime minister, a reporter shouts, this request from australia and he does it. of course the reporter in the form of the question here, does the fit, did you get that? that was it. i mean, it's the whole shipment caboodle, ma'am. biden uttered just 3 words. 3 words we are considering. that's what he says. and even that's a huge change of direction for a government that has wanted a sausage. the heck they suggest to us officials of actually suggested the guy should be in prison for at least a 150 years. for a 150 years, there's been talk that he should be executed if he comes to the united states. that's what some of the argument with the brits was about the they don't want him to be executed,

but my god. why essentially for revealing embarrassing and secret but factually correct information about what the us government did in iraq and afghanistan. now i mentioned this earlier, but this is really important to the rest of the world. it's a no brainer. a no brainer. busy massage has suffered enough, but in the u. s, where the media is controlled in large measure by the military industrial complex and its state sponsors. c, i, a state department, whitehouse, etc. it's not so clear to people who live here in the united states cuz that's not what they hear on the news or on any shows or in general media. assange has been held in a highly high security prison in london. now since he was arrested, that was that 2019 before that he spent 7 terrible years hiding out. most of it, living inside some ecuador, and embassy room that smell. busy according to people went there pretty bad. i mean,

he was stuck in there, he could move to avoid extradition a while mister biden's comment. it didn't seem like an enthusiast in confirmation. it was enough to elicit this response from the australian prime minister. here it is. i believe this must be brought to a conclusion and that mister a son says so ready? hide us to give you a price, and enough is enough. there's nothing to be gained by mister ins assigned, continued incarceration in my very strong view. and i'll put that is a view of the strain government kind of hard to understand what language is speaking. but anyway, the words being picked from that carefully read statement enough is enough to hear that enough is enough. expect to see those words picked up as a rallying cry in the science defense. and wouldn't be surprised if you start seeing it on t shirts. but look once again about how mr. biden's response. maybe it's just his

old age, but i think it's worth asking me, or maybe it's just me. i have some guess i'm gonna have asked them to answer this question. watch this again. watch this again. does he even know what he's really responding to here at the i don't know. busy maybe even more encouraging for backers of massage is the domestic and geo political pickle. the us now finds itself in that may cause it to, to do this to, you know, to throw a bone at the global self countries, as well as young voters in the us who are overwhelmingly pro a such. now think about this as the us is getting hammered, hammered for helping the massacre. tens of thousands of women and children and gaza . it is being questioned worldwide for feeding and prolonging the war in ukraine.

all this, while countries like india, china, russia continue to be seen as counter weights to the very militant policies of us, the gemini, for all those reasons, the, by the ministration appears to be in desperate need of a we in something, anything that could make it look like it's not so on. cool. or if nothing else at least reasonable. right. and many believe that freeing of font frame julia massage could offer just that. that's my take. joining us now to discuss that role, syndicated columnist, author and award winning cartoonist dan lazara ryder journalist expert on the us constitution. hey, let's start there. is this really a constitutional issue? the world sees it as just common sense? then you say what as well, it's certainly cruel and unusual punishment. i would say, uh yeah, i mean this is

a, this is american paranoid. it's worse. uh the uh, uh, a songs has been, uh, has been even, uh, slandered, abused in prison for a dozen years. in fact, today is 5th anniversary and march prison in london about before then he was spent 7 years in the ecuadorian embassy under very uncomfortable circumstances. and has been called the russian agents. he's been called a uh a, he's a cold, a threat of physical threat to american intelligence officers. it's all complete nonsense that joe biden called him a hi tech terrace. uh, it was, uh, its been extraordinary so. so is this a certainly for the cruel and unusual category? i'm thinking also in terms of international law. as i look at this story, it, you know, it's funny. i've been following the story as long as you guys have, and maybe i'm just not the smartest guy in the world, but i'm just now putting together the fact that this guy from australia,

he's an australian citizen. why is it that the laws of the united states and great britain that everybody else is laws except australia as laws are the ones that have been used all this time to prosecute this man? i wasn't taken so long for australia to stay up, stand up and say, hey, this is our citizen without what you guys doing over there. yeah, well if i were in australia national, i would be extremely displeased with the failure of my government to stand up for the rights of my co national. right. i mean it's, it's not, it doesn't speak very highly of the australians looking after their people and now that's the one that's changed here. politics, australia, for much of a period that mr. a sounds has been incarcerated for over the last 12 years. there was a right wing conservative government in power there, so they didn't really care and they cared far more about their relationship with

the united states than they did about mr. sound. even though i mean, look, here's the face. mr. sam doesn't owe anything to the united states to its laws at all. i mean, this is, this is as out landers, as if any of the 3 of us were suddenly arrested, obviously would choose a country randomly under paraguay in law for violating paraguay of national security. with respect to paraguay, i have no loyalty to paraguay. i've never been to paraguay, i don't have, i don't care about paragraphs. i'm not against the, an in neither destroying the sod aside from having visited the united states. sure . does he have any legal? he shouldn't be subject to us law. this is, it's an, it's an absurdity. what other countries do this? no more? yeah, i was taking it back by your choice of countries. by the way, i was, as i started to hear you make your argument. i was wondering, i wonder what country he's going to pick and when you, when you pick powered glass turner. ok. why not?

um, i did mention something in my story as i was writing the story and i was briefing myself and doing my own research. i came across and obviously i googled you know, his standing in australia and when i, when i saw that that recent poll they did, we're almost 80 percent of the people in australia are saying, here's one of us who needs to be free. let this guy go. i think maybe that and the fact that the parliament, the members of parliament got together and said they put out a call for him to be freed as well. don't you think damn, that may have moved this prime minister as well. and oh yeah, surely, course, i mean, yeah. and it moves uh buttons as well to because you know, and, and australia as part of the orchestra alliance, the australia, u. k. u. s alliance. its very important to the us, very important to the, to the anti chinese constellation is putting together. so therefore keeping the

australians happy as a very high priority, as far as buying is concerned. uh so yeah, he wants to, uh, he wants to definitely definitely has to us drilling and public opinion on his mind . you know, i, i said i use the word cool at the end of my story. i did it for a reason. i chose that word very carefully if you look at the world that is. 2 really the global self, any place, but maybe the united states. it's kind of cool to support julian assigned. it means you are right up. it means you know what's going on. it means you stand for a sense of freedom in fairness, right? and i, and i say that because it hurts me to say it is because i'm an american. i love this country, but we are just so on. cool. we're not cool with this cuz we don't get it. you stop on the street and ask americans about julian as long as you think he's some bank robber or something. and then how do we get to this place and how do we change it? make data. i mean, i'll give both you guys a crack at this swell. i don't know how we change it. i mean,

the problem is that the americans are incredibly propagandized by corporate mainstream media. and that's not changing any time soon. that's why people are getting this ridiculous message while the rest of the world is getting the truth. i mean, you know, americans aren't stupid. there's just brainwash. yeah. and it's like, i think if they get the, if they get the fax, they hear the fax then they'll arrive at the same conclusion. is everyone else? yeah. and they're busy, they work. i mean, you've got to work a lot of jobs in this country to be able to pay your bills. so you know, you just listen to whatever the hell, anderson cooper or sean hannity or some other idiot on the cable news tells you, and that's what you think the truth is. i mean, and i, and i guess that's where we are there. right? yeah. i mean, mer, america is an empire. uh, and, uh, and empires. um, you know, uh, uh, you know, export violence in a home. they keep their, their people, uh, poor and uninformed and uh, and propaganda propagandized as a texas. uh so the,

you know, the americans have little ideas going on on the world except when their sons and daughters are sent off to war. and they have little idea of who julia size is and they figure that, you know, if the government says a bad guy, then who are they to say otherwise. uh and the democrats, by the way, had been as bad as this, if not worse, in the read. yeah, book ins. okay. yeah. the, it was done by nicole the high tech terrorist that hillary clinton was, you know, part of the lynch mob. and the democrats spent years trying to pin the get the crime of russian collusion on here. that was the whole. that was a major part of the uh, the muller report. uh, it was completely untrue. there is no evidence whatsoever that he was that the russians said him information that was the weakest part of the muller report, but his reputation has been stained and he'll never outlive it. it's been astonishing by ted rall and uh and then um,

we thank you for taking us through this part when we come back. so here's what i want to do. i want to start breaking down the case. what are the chances that this will see to fruition? joining us on his actual freedom, we're going to talk about that on the other side. stay right there. do not go what the, what else seemed wrong. just don't you have to see the house? because on the trail, when so many find themselves worlds of parts, we choose to look for common ground the the russian

states never as tired as i'm wondering the most sense community, most all sense and the speed, the one else holes. question about this, even though we will ben in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on rochester de s r t. sports net keeping our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube. the question, did you say even twist, which is the

of the so the news is that the present united states when asked if he would consider this uh, this request from the australian government to finally just enough is enough. let join us on the go. the president of united states that and we quote we're considering that makes it almost sound like he had already had a previous discussion about it or maybe not. i mean, god bless them. and we're talking about the, you know, a president to sometimes look like he's barely awake and we're all going to get there because he's old. so as i watched the video, i wasn't quite sure what 10, starting with you, if,

if you're good enough to join instead of and then both. what do you think the biden is really enthusiastic about doing this? or do you think he even knows the case? do you think he's cool enough to get it? and do you think he's going to see this through? as well to mind is not going to be able to really buy any pool or the cool part that's right. that's not gonna grab the ticket. all grandpa, dad, people, even if he releases assigns and goes out partying with them, i just don't think that's going to be making cool. but i do think he's aware of his ministrations. obviously, on top of this, i would take this very seriously. at bare minimum, it's a gas like sort of like when he came out in favor of gay marriage and when he was vice president under obama, and then they kind of have to make it so. so i'm very optimistic here. nothing is a 100 percent, but i would say it's a very much better to have than 50 percent that julian is going to get reunited

with his wife and, and child after this in due course. which way overdue is disgusting. only be really clear that he didn't deserve a single 2nd. yeah, behind bars, but he didn't come across. is there a possibility there? cause that these things sometimes get orchestrated and we don't even know about this, but they do. i mean, there's a possibility that someone in the obama, pardon the, the, the, the vice president by the signs. you put obama in my head, the president button staff picked one of these report and says, do us a favor. ask this question. he's, he's going to give you an answer asked as quite, i've seen is done. i come, i, this is a business i, i come from. so they, they plan to story. he answers it because they want it to get this in the news. that's a possibility. could be a possibility, he didn't ask the question, the president didn't understand them, and a gave him a cogent answer. there's also the possibility, in fact, that mr. barton didn't understand the question,

but just said we're considering it because that's what they tell them to say to all the questions. so them a b or c? and i know, i think it's, i think is bonafide. i think he heard the question, i think is his answer made sense? i think it's worth taking its face value. i think that button is considering this, so that's a good sign. it's a very helpful sign that maybe uh, maybe the persecution of a of join massage may be finally coming to an end. i think i've, i agree with ted, there's every reason for optimism and you look at joe biden. he's, he's facing a brutal campaign. yeah. you know, he's, he's neck in the act with uh, with um, with donald trump and, uh, and he's got a lot of things going against them in the last thing he needs is some kind of huge lean, messy trial in which they, they, hillary and torture. some highly i deal with dick reporter. yeah. that's the last

thing he needs about the and about the us as militaristic track record, which happens to be right now in the news both and gaza avenue grant. so let's go ahead and heighten the very thing which is making people not like you. right? yeah. so as you know, this whole, your con, more monitoring military, you know, b, s, i mean, it just doesn't play well any more. people are sick and tired of this kind of rhetoric of at a high tech terror terrorist at a time when the us are supplying is real with 2000 pounds bunker, buster bombs, you know, that's real terrorism. you know, so the, you know, it just, the optics are really, really bad. so, you know, and i think even joe biden realizes the okay, fair fair, what it's just said, what i see him sometimes. i'm not sure he's all there. and by the way, sometimes i'm not all there. so we're, we all have moments like that. so it's not just to pick on the president, but he is an older man. fine. let's talk about the case the of the holding in this

case. dan will stay with you and you write a lot about legal stuff. do you believe that there really is from a legal standpoint, looking at this case down the road that there's a possibility that within the next weeks, months, whatever that we will see those come to fruition and take us through how that happens. and i was, i saw as far as i know, it's very simple. i mean the, the us simply would just inform the british that they have no desire to extra dice assad's anymore. and that idea for he's free to go or that could be so kind of deal worse on, you know, i would agree to, to leave for, for australia. that's probably the likely this outcome. but you know, as ted pointed out, a size um he didn't commit his crimes on us territory. yeah. he was in europe the entire time. he was, uh, you know, it really is like picking up uh, you know, you know, its using, you know, one of us of violating uh, uh, paraguay in uh,

security law. and it just makes no sense. but what it is, is the us is not paraguay, the us is the global hedge them on. and therefore when it says, you know, jump, everybody, uh, you know, asked how high with the brakes use uh, very small number of acceptance. so is there any reason why that is, is there any way that there could be some kind of uh, ops to go to this? i'll give you an example. the british say, you know what, know we're, we're going to hold them a little longer. could they hold them a little longer? do we know the answer to any of these questions? i think suite is done with them. they drop those, those, those right charges that were there several years back. but could somebody else come forward and say no, hold on. we're going to stop this. i did this thing has had so many stops and starts. you know, pardon me for not being optimistic, but i'm just wondering, is there anything else that can happen out there a dead? well, let me see radically, anything is possible. maybe he like double parked one time when he was on vacation room parents, the thing for him to pay the rental car bill. but you know,

as far as we know, there's no jurisdiction. as you pointed out, the, you know, the, the, the scandinavian, sorry, i'm looking for him anymore. and it seems pretty clear that you know, the sort of as a corollary to what dan said about us being a hatch them on us wants him to go home to australia, then he's going to go home to australia even on the stream. the unlikely chance that someone else wants to take him into custody. what about australia? is there a possibility? they're going to know, i can't see them doing anything other than having a parade when he gets there right. then i would imagine not. i'm not, i don't know that can be so kind of a deal where he's i don't, i don't know, i'm speculating. a house arrest some kind of a additional penalty slap and the rest, the australian government may choose to apply. i really have no idea, but i sorry, i'm mike. hope that he goes home. he's re reunited with his family. he gives, you know, he's a,

goes out in the lecture circuit. he writes the best selling book. that'd be the greatest outcome possible. do you both agree that the united states might want, might be inclined to do this because the united states right now just needs a when they need something that doesn't make them look as horrible as they look right now in the eyes of the world. and especially the global south community, either one of you. i think it's more about like it's not a when it, this is about damage control of the julian or something. it's been a fiasco. it's been a thorn in the side of the bible's ministration. since day one, really, truly, i mean even for donald trump, there were expectations that he would have let a sergeant go and pardon him in the waning days of his ministration. but of course he was distracted tremendously by january 6th and subsequent impeachment. so i think this is about on doing a bad thing. you can score when you're already done as de paul van. uh,

30 seconds you get the last word, a good sense. i was just want to point out that the, the us is really disgraced itself. but boy has a saw, has gone through the ringer. i mean, this guy has an yeah, not by the most powerful country on the, on honors. he has been physically harmed, he's mentally harmed. it's been extraordinary one man against an empire. he's amazing to us. right. yeah, he is, it is an amazing story. it will make a hell of a buck and a hell of us and a hell of a movie. my, thanks to both of you. thank you, dan. thank you, ted, for your wisdom and the conversation. so here's what we do. and before we go, we want to remind you of our mission. simple. really. we try to do this. this showed you basically the side of the world. try not to live in little boxes where we all think, as we're told, or as we think, we have to say, troops don't live in little boxes either. do we?

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