30 years, thanks for being with us, angelo. so, in what seemed to be something that arose out of the blue beijing announced it had brokered bilateral restoration of ties between iran and saudi arabia. back in march . it was confirmed that each respective country would re open embassies and normalize relations as a p. firstly, on this matter, was it out of the blue. i mean, this news seemed to catch washington off guard, or even by surprise. how long do you think paging had been working on this process? it is not surprising. we saw what happened in the last few days. actually, saudi arabia announced that he would, he was applying to a c, u, a. so basically this already iran, which is part of the s e o, in order to, to enter into the se, your saudi arabia had to somehow make peace with the saudi arabia. so i think this

is a, you know, those negotiation or they take a long time to, to be, to happen. and i think this is a, the result of an effort of decades of work that the china has done over the region . how china dos when it comes to establishing relationship. it is about building infrastructure, it's about training. it's not about imposing an order or into fir, into doing interference in those countries. so i think this piece agreement between saudi arabia any ran is basically the result of a long efforts of china. that nice to have those 2 countries should be in good terms because they are part of the better on initiative. and there are lots of project related to infrastructure in the region. so they need, they need to have those, those 2 countries to get together and work together. because ultimately what china

wants to do in the region is to bill stability. so it is going to be a win win for everybody. you bill infrastructure p. country stock trading in and when you do business business, promote peace and well being rather than than what we saw in the middle east over the next last decades of confrontation and investor. if you look at what the us did in the region is a divide and conquer, basically dividing countries between issues, religion, sunni's against us, china is about is, is much, much more rational in china as an approach over they see suits short on st. e. meaning, look for what you like us and set aside the differences in that's the approach that china has used when he come to saudi arabia in iran. it's focused on what you notice, how can we work together?

and of course we have products, but we'll solve those problems slowly as we start building a relationship. anyway, why, why was washington surprised? were they not paying attention? and u. s. secretary of state antony blink and tried to downplay china's role in all of their saying that beijing only facilitated the meeting and didn't really have a real part in brokering the relations. i think it is probably one of the reason is that to washington is a bit outside of the realities and there's a lot of dispersion when it comes to foreign policies. i think it's a saw you mediation. if you think about the middle east, the middle east has always been for the us. you know, there playground, you know, it was a, you know, they, they were the applied the mom when duck shall they fall from the west. they want the thought that middle east was there, tough and it is a kind of humiliation here you have finally, adults in the room, you know,

there was, there were kids like the u. s. like, acted like a strategy and, and it's a kind of you mediation for the you of infrastructure, which is the best and world initiative. i think we should, we should really focus when he comes to geopolitics in general. it is about not looking at worse, but look, if actions china is not much of true into words. it's not into perception. it's about building a tangible results. because you can say whatever you want, you know, but chinese of a, don't you, us, you know, i want tangible stuff. you know, are we going to do trade or not? are we going to build infrastructure? you know, are we going to be the new currency? that's what china is doing. it's not about perception. do you think this is merely daytime? i mean, is that a 1st step or do you think the beijing deal has any real staying power? i think this is for the long term. i definitely, i think especially because saudi arabia is actually applied is actually signed

a m o u, a memorandum of understanding to enter to the su. so you will have countries like that, you know, so your radar and you run the same organization. and i think it's very interesting what the china has achieved to see. so this is not in reality, the not the 1st time the china united to countries. because, you know, you, you know, china is as done as for help or small some heart you have for pakistan and india under the same organization of su. so they did it already. so you start slowly, slowly bit by bit. they managed to have, at least you make pakistan in double shock long time and it needs to sit under the same roof, you know, on the same table. and those are achievements already that china has done in the, in the past. iran is a sheer muslim country. the saudis are considered sunni,

or hobby muslim. we've seen sectarian fighting between the 2 play out in theaters like yemen. perspective. embassies have been closed since 2016 if this bilateral relationship sticks. what does this mean for the broader middle east or how about israel given that b, b, netanyahu's government isn't a very fragile state right now. when he comes to his, well, i think we need to be. the question is, well, is there is, well, and i of the us, or is it a hostage? i think we need to be really careful just not to see sort too close to the u. s. i think is where it is actually having a more pragmatic approach. and we've seen a she wrapper small of is well with other are countries in the middle east because the sheet that the president of the us, you know, the u. s. might not be there in the long term. we've seen the u. s. escaping. i've

gotten this done. they see the u. s. not being stable ally, so they need to, to hedge their bets. and somehow i think there's a, there's a whole slowly we might have actually some, some kind of piece in and maybe with this, how push more may be a long term solution of the listing in the issue coming up next bricks has been talking about expansion for many months now, so saudi arabia, normalizing relations with iran. will this basically secure the addition of the dual into the new economic block? we'll discuss it when we return with angelo giuliano, the type the m. o will be right back. i

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b, s, c o n. a powerful allied nations anchored by china and russia, now that beijing has announced revived bilateral ties between iran and saudi arabia . are these blocks about to grow back with us to continue the conversation is angela juliano. he's a finance and political analyst with expertise in china. so angel china announcing this deal came on the heels of beijing delivering something of a piece plan for ukraine and russia. these were back to back close to u. s. foreign policies unilateral had gemini on top of all of that. this happens as she's in ping except says, 3rd go as president. do all these things add up to be what positions china as the 21st century leader has the global pecking order begun to shift? absolutely, this is a sign that we finally have what i call,

i call adults in the room. i don't why, why do i hold them of us? chinese not emotional the way that the chinese lead us a poor geopolitics. they are not looky, in terms of working for the next election cycles. they are working for the next generations. a china is a long term view. it's not about when the china does alliances, which actually china doesn't like lines. you know, they like partnerships. but those are long term partnerships. it is not like the us as done all along tweet history. i give you an example of what the u. s. the to jerky nor the us was behind the, the, the call in turkey in 2016. this is not the way that you should treat you allies. the u. s. is behind the sabotage of no string which is which is going to damage germans economy and ultimately which, which will lead to the dean,

this revision of germany. what this is not how you treat your allies. so you, this is holly treat allies in ends is somehow it's of the, of the tracks. you know, it's about training. it's not about co ration. a chinese, a different approach. it's about how we can work together. you know and find stability, harmony. and it is very interesting when you look at just country how chinese the operates. when you live in china, like like i've done the last, almost 3 decades, i see cost a p, a society which is working towards harmony and stability. when i look at the approach, especially in the u. s. and so in europe to it because of democracy, i mean, so called the more christie, which, i mean, it is only by what it's, it's not really tv, it's not, it's a, it's a system of divided in control. gives you use of the free choice to the people and

it is extremely emotional. it is marketing they. they have done the same as the door with product they've done to politicians. as a politician, i'm going to tell you what you want to hear. once i'm elected, i will do whatever i want. i will bait you who live a fund to be not to who a lex me. so you see the country extremely different approach. one, which is very rational. china has a long history. it's solid in terms of values, you know, human being values, family and so on. and then you had the other side, the collective west, and especially the us way divided in controlling people over issues which are not important identity issues, sexuality, you know, left and right and so on. and it divides a psyche, any crease chaos. but by doing this kills, that's how you control society. and you give them a choice,

an illusion of choice to people that somehow they have a free choice don't because you put them in front of them. people that were pre selected, but they don't, they're not going to work for them, but they are going to work for the global is to lease so bricks, brazil, russia, india, china, south africa. this economic block is already quite formidable against the g 7. prior to this news, it was said that iran and saudi both were interested in joining to form bricks plus, now that they taught has been achieved, how likely is it that the pair will join? and what will this do in terms of, of real economic power? i think long term, it's a highly likely we see a lot of interest or if we, if the months you have new countries are just showing the interest in joining bricks. i think when you look at breaks, the long term game here is about the d dollarization of the was economy.

because and this ashy will lead to the, the, for the collapse of the us. the idea he is not about having in or pushing for the class of the u. s. economy. this is not what they want but is somehow just are having a fair word. just because because somehow this is neil collagen is on the disguise of a currency. and manipulation of a was economy because the us dollar the will was created was to impose upon the word a currency in, in somehow you have a country like the u. s, which is a trade deficits. and which is boring money. it's showing that n is imposing on countries to buy it's debt. so it's a ponzi scheme that is not meant to be paid. and slowly, countries are understanding why, why saudi arabia and iran would have to use us dollar sell. and somehow i'm going

to end up with the u. s. dollar, which is not more than the paper itself. you know, if the promise of exchange, again, insisting in it's not a debt which is meant to be repaid. it's a ponzi scheme. once you stop financing us trade deficit, then the point is king falls apart in this is why these days you have many countries including u. s. allies that are actually selling the u. s. owns because it's a ponzi scheme, no breaks the book is, is long term. purpose is to create a currency which will be backed by tangible. you know, commodity is gold and somehow you empower those countries not to be enslaved by the u. s. dollar. and especially that the sanctions that can be used because the dollar has been weaponized. in any case it would put us by using sanctions. and

somehow all those, the sanctions that were position of us dollar has backfired because this has accelerated the did i was ation. yeah, in fact another group that's also expanding is the shanghai cooperation organization or the s e o. it's also anchored by china and russia. it's effectively both a regional security group, as well as an economic one. riyadh has signed a memorandum signaling that they want. what they call to be dialogue partners with the s c o stopping just short a full membership right now. similar to, you know, russia being a cause i member of opec, the saudis, and the chinese are strengthening ties, while washington is attacking china on tick tock. so what do you say to all of that? it seems like a little bit a loser attitude, especially when you look at how the managing with tick tock. china is created a house, i mean tick tock the, it's better. there's so many users there's,

there's $150.00 millions of regular uses in the us and now they want to buy tick tock. and somehow you, for, if you're american, you want to, to, to bypass, you need to use a v p n. so in reality, they say though, we, you know, in, under the cold war he was the u. s. a sound isolating itself, actually we see more and more that the collective west is isolated itself, even when it comes to social media. another example, you know, you, they, they are not issuing these us easily to russians. russian has not, is not binding people to visit russia. it's the collective west all alone. this many examples that use you can see that the collective west is especially the u. s . is isolating itself by using too many sanctions on too many countries in then you end up with no countries. you can credit them any more because countries don't,

don't want to have long term commitments. would you, could you unstable? you my friend? no, but if you could dog we or something, i'm going to sanction you. that's not friends. you know? if a friends are like this, why ever enemies angela? your final thoughts on all of this on china, the saudis, iran and the u. s. i think it's especially interesting to hear the perspective of a european born person having lived in china for nearly 30 years. i mean, what is the end game here? how do you see this all playing out? i think a clearly this is a, a shift between going from a uni pull a would the u. s. a gemini, and all sorts control over europe over japan, australia, korea, which is a very small portion of the, was population probably around 15 percent. you have this unit pull a word and it is a shift towards multi paula, what is going to be actually,

when you look at paul geopolitics, it's a going from a dictatorship of the us tours democracy of the rest of the world. so as this is going to empower those countries to make their own choices, just to make sure that they can regain the sovereignty. you know, once you, you not actually tied to the us dollar, then you, you can have you, your currency, you, you begin your, your sovereignty associates about how we can do this transition. this is jojo vo, that we call the 2 cities trap, where you had the shifts in world history. you had a 16 times, i think where you had this shift where you had the, you know, declining power and you know, the raising power. and out of 16 times, i think a 13 times it ended up in a war. so the big question now is to, to see it, how is the collective, what's going to be rational enough to make this transition peacefully. but here is

a huge difference, is that this is the 1st time we have this transition where you have countries in front of you, you have nuclear power countries. so now if you are going to war, you know, this is mutual, any nation. so it's about, are they going to be rational enough? ultimately, if they really cherry so much democracy, why, why don't they accept that? you know, they are not alone. and again, maybe the collective was, he's not exceptional. like we seen hollywood movies, maybe it's time to be more rational to sit down like a dos. whoever does all over under the table in can we build this, sir, this world where we have a mutual project of harmony of peace in knots. oh, my gain against you loss a lose lose in or he it's about building

a one more democratic and working for mutual prosperity because ultimately averaged chore either in rush hour china, the u. s. i'm talking about average joe not the lease is looking to improving its quality of life. how can i bring indication to my kids? how can i have hair care? longevity, tangible things in this is what we can achieve. you know, ultimately it's about really having, having peace in the world and, and, but starting from home, you know, because ultimately, when you look at those geopolitical games or the 1st victims, americans living the u. s. themself. maybe they, they need to regain no power. you know, it's because democracy means demo cutoff power to the people. maybe maybe they, they want so much to explore democracy, what use,

give back power to your own people. so your own problem at home, and then maybe maybe you can work with other countries after. so we need to start from all home and then extend in in how can we work together rather than 0 sum game that the collect what's, what's, what's us to go to angela juliano. thank you so much for weighing in on all of this for us. all right, so as you can see under the biden administration, there pivot to the pacific is not without cause. the sharp comments coming from military brass in the us talking about war with china and 2025 is cause for real concern as the us desperately seeks to hang onto her gemini, by trying to tame the dragon. that is going to do it for this episode. of modus operandi the show that dig deep in the foreign policy and current affairs on your

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