ah, the can i, africa has a lot of what ancient and we need the help of developing countries like india, n, e. yep, that is removed from south african, you know, economy is actually a great deal for the future. definitely western countries should follow this movement of helping african countries even more. so, i think that there's not enough effort to put into i've couldn't countries as it should be. there. dep who tribune owing to russia, i think is to george hockey is on and africa is again, sharing as russian president vladimir putin think, free green shipment to famine hit countries reinforcing his commitment to the people and development of africa. and william, it was a 3 rashid ymca vegeta. at the ado, news, news, immune, but he had

a few of the for i see escape when your son, you violated. yes image, let's keep it in the machine and you but i did it with you to the truth. yes. don't margotto, would visto be you got thought a will not put out in the put into shooting me over a so when it was due, she's listed on the bus. david is that i see wages, hello and welcome to this week's african, now show when coming to you from mozambique, one of the african countries that has benefited from both the free grange shipments and the abolishment of debt announced by moscow. many industrial enterprises have been built on the continent. the entire industries have been created. and vital infrastructure and social facilities have been built at the same time brush road off the debt to african states. in announcing rushes, writing off of debt to the tune of $20000000000.00, mustn't be a long time friend and ally of the soviet union and russia has been given

a chance to look forward and be in control of its own development without crippling debts. i'm joined now if i assume by tobias me, well, a political sciences and international relations expert from timber in the north of the country. thank you so much for joining us. what was the status of moves and big debt to russia? before president putin announced who was abolishing the listen, she became a zombie can. and then it goes back in the time, when was me was willing to educate me. so the form was i'm and national my list were trying to buy the ration by the soviet union. so did the start of the day. so that was something was sort of money. so diplomat, becky:

so the next day, or even before muslim, got when dependence came in meant the 75 also russia so the union has been loved by the government despite the state. so how on the phone so that was huge. i can, i cannot tell the numbers because when you have someone like that, that is so huge. you cannot number. so when the president put it, and now i'm not taking, it was kind of lifting imbedded from the government. it was i'm and far it was what had most of the money been useful and why was most and be able to pay it back?

we were speaking the beginning in the beginning for us became 2 in the so we have the one which is one side you have the lead in the and the other side in the way. so what happened in optimal something, but in dependence we have beginning of a country which was surrounded by a white minority watching it and we can get a lot in full or digital that you barbara. so more than you mean just from the complete countries like russia, china, so this mind was used for social and for social purposes. so schools for them are for, for her to k, some diseases. just to remind you that 1979 was that was like

a virus of fuck fix for the mission where it didn't more than one man. so it was sort of asha and white. now what are we looking at? where does this cancellation put most and peak in terms of resources? what does the company that pick up the bunch of batch from start to be? most of them are with them. what were some companies? so it's clearly but not from long perspective. so we're all on the way off of those big companies. so that's why we say ok, we are free but what the met. so if you depend on the will of and if there were some like which,

like 4 or less to make you feel that you are the and then you are the are, will you? so we're, we're not going to depend on the goodwill of the off the power and what does that do to the economy with it. now it's a tune in japan. so i didn't know if you knew where there was where the united states was due for overlap of the world and quoting was with all over the world. now we are speaking of dimensions, even though, as i was saying before, but now we strong stronger because more them how to more has promote for timothy the western world. tobias and how thank you very much for joining us on african now. mostly because one of the most minimal which countries on the continent just over

a decade ago in the was limit base and that struggles the most and big 10 senior border was discovered the biggest natural gas deposits in the last 100 years. that led directly to massive foreign investment and no surprise conflict for us and other countries got involved under the pretext of anti terrorism. and we can the local economy by constantly providing the pluto with loans. now like other african governments. ma puter is a massive bit to the west moving across the border to south africa. it's much the same story. decades of so called western assistance have amounts to nothing except poverty and debt. well, african governments are currently owing 3 times more debt to, to western lenders than they do to russia and china. and the recent court has suggested that just about 12 percent off, that it is go to china and almost 50 percent is older to the west. this then tells

us that the more my new poured into this country and many other african countries by the west, the list, the standards of living and all of this has repercussions and consequences. and those consequences, a return and a scene in every part of the african continent. currently, i am in the streets often be saw one off so that because most overpopulated townships can be so really is one of those townships struggle to make a living because of the hanging data that stands, the oba is an african country. i'm just going to move away from the shot so that my colleague can show you the intensity of the situation in a tim visa. as you can see, there's a lot of water, a lot of sewage on the streets. and this is the township that really struggles in terms of unemployment in terms of education, and really trying to make ends meet a lot of people who complain about those jobs. and they're complain about not having house those that the infrastructure in this township is so bad. that the

population is too much and the infrastructure cannot cope. so even if you build high res buildings and the schools the, the infrastructure simply cannot, would hold the number of people living in this township that become more economy as never goes before is into their fail guys is showing them not benefit from anything . so that's an economy every vehicle is properly struggling. no part of this country cameron's no, no. when everything is at a standstill, you know, we don't have jobs. we can't afford to daddy further. if we live in shacks, this sewage, every way we hear about money's coming into the country every now and then, but has no movement even now we're supposed to have houses built around the corner, but no progress has come out of those plans. so what's the point of having these loans? if we're getting deeper into crisis name,

my list was almost the same or explain of this economy. i didn't even know where to start. everything has just gone down. we have lost hope of citizens. it's clear that african citizens are now starting to realize that with an aid has not been as effective as we see. in fact, it has done more home as the starting to realize on the streets, off the african countries for t. no, we couldn't get into that. and then niger area, it's much the same. in this mixer, portal correspondent talks us to some unknown facts about the biggest flood in lake us. a 3rd of this community lives on scope, both over water. if you have seen one slumber, you have seen them all. so the se, but this one is markedly far from your average completion of the entire, the build on water, the residents there. an account number of people here because even during the

last sentence in the area in 2007, there wasn't a loves. people counted here to have a legitimate figure. the only place in africa when the residents live on water. this hold lace is billed on stealth, is often called africa venice because of the numerous pathways and the houses that have been built here on the still end is by far the most amazing place i have ever been so much for africans can swim well. well, well, you're about to get the shock of your life. it is how people move about. it is the only way in which people can make tube of this residence.

they come from been in looking for a better life here in this part of west africa, particularly leg work with just of the 3rd mainland ridge and the people here not only go to school, live and work here. they what should be the shops sometimes are more by just off of the 3rd mainland bridge. and they continue to live in these pathways in the land. and these foreign children, they live here. they know no other life. if the kids wants to go play, they would have to get on a boat in order to get to a play area. further away from where we are, the poverty that's around this place, of course, takes it away from what you might know. as the romance and beauty of the

tally and back dropped, it's name after it's estimated there. over if the schools hear the message in the size of the place and the population is running close to for decades of the fed, of people living like the market. when the african analysts agree that russia understands that no nation can develop properly with crippling bits and interests. while western countries follow russia example and cancel all debts owed to them by african states. always that a far fetched dream. we spoke with coffee core core. i respected african analyst. now coffee. thank you again for your time and having to join us today. i think it's very important that we start with the biggest question, and we've seen how russia has reiterated his commitment to meeting these

obligations within the african continent. and as an african analyst, as an african factor, what do you make off this move? and where do you see this taking the african continent? i think it's a very important, 1st of all, thanks for having me on board. it's a very significant step from russia. and in fact, russia is following in the footsteps of china because i think last year, china is already cancelled and forgiven the debt of 23 african countries. i mean, that's significant. and so russia doing the same thing really reduces the burden of debt to the african countries. but we might also say we can't keep doing that. and what is really interesting is that this sort of double header from russia and china puts an enormous amount of pressure on the west. and i'm quite happy that she

mentioned how much this is putting pressure on the waist and would that. so how do you see the we're going authors, do you see them rather following suit and doing the same thing that russia and china has been doing in terms of cutting these dates for african countries? the 1st is a traditional scenario, option one, where they're not going to change. they're in the business of making money. and making money means interest rate continuously gouge pool and countries that are boring from them. and they keep blending. so they have a huge impact and influence on the way these countries are run because the whole, the purpose of these countries. and so that's option one, which means they're not going to, it's a traditional behavior of capital is and funding institutions that they're not going to change easily. the pressure now that's coming from russia and china is really exposing if you want the sort of financial gouging that these poor countries

of africa are going through. we've actually had a lot of people, a lot of voices and opinions, saying that russia doesn't really just throw money into african economies in african countries. they actually help african economies make their own economy decisions. where do you stand on that? do you agree with the statement? well, who's going to give money away for free? very rare. you know, financial alter isn't today. as a city again, is one in a 1000000. and when russia, china does this, people always very suspicious. because the idea is that who's going to give you money for free body, but there's a genuine sense from russia. and in fact, it serves russia as well. the rush is soft, power is now growing very fast and, and what is really extraordinary is the pace at which russia and china a pushing these things, counseling, loans, doing development things,

not just talking in glib about democracy. you know, the summit and democracy organized. but the state in them, yeah, i mean, and strange, you know, the president said, you know, we don't eat democracy. so we need more than just the summit and democracy. and that's exactly what russia and china and other nations on are getting specially the nation from the south. what's called the global self to move to a place where it's not just putting odd thinktank papers, but to see real development infrastructure base on health, education, port, roads and so forward to build those to the, the continent can really move forward. a lot of people do say that this is new, but we do get others as well that say this is just a continuation of an old relationship. as an african analyst, how do you explain this?

is this a continuation between russia and the african economy? the point is not how know it is. you know, the point is how good and rewarding and profitable it can be to africa. being all the new with sitting with the old relationship with the west. it hasn't produce much at all miseries. and you know, terrorism, all kinds of terrible things. unemployment is, africa is probably got now one of the highest unemployment in the worlds, not just in general, but among the youth would just, you know, running away migrating to europe and dying in the, in the mediterranean. not only that, but also the inequalities have gone up. in addition to that, inequality is not just not, but also, you know, the fact that people are just not feeling that things are working. so there will consider new or old, as long as it delivers

a for want to take the chinese don't show pinks. point doesn't matter how white or black or green the cat is as long as the catches mice. and until the whisk and deliver, africans will seek different alternatives, new or old. and i think the russian alternative is something to consider. of course it doesn't. they don't like that and coffee just before we need to go. i think it's very important to ask this question because it's very important. how much catching up data we need to do to, to, in terms of its presence within the african continent, especially if you consider russia and china as a presence within the continent. if they can send in a matter of 2 months or 3 or 4 more than a $100000000000.00 us dollars to ukraine, the can turn it around. and so it's, it's up to the mindset they need to have a refreshing mindset. and that old mindset that put africa where africa is today,

must change, and they can turn and run, but they are, they have no interest whatsoever. it is africa developed. because if the did, would have seen some of the differences. what african looking for is besides political democracy, the one economists democracy, economic dividends. so this is going to be very important for the west when it's and so they have a lot to catch up. but the way they need to catch up is to change their mindset, but they're not ready to change it. and this is one of the reason it's going to take them time. and it's almost a little bit late, because china is ramping up its relationship with africa. i mean, not a to know 6 21622282 1000000000 in 2020, 22. i mean, russia is not coming in with new ways to really engage africa. people are thrilled on the african continent to considered of tentative. and that's the point about

africa, africa become almost the darling. only shoes. do leaders get it flex trouble now to go into a country rich and i'm, or, and you radian, which is also over the years, a mass, massive death. with the west. we speak with an international relations expert on what rushes, we stayed with. african countries means to this former portuguese colony. this is a big way of mir put, seen is looking for to to get a strength to be most stronger than he was. 1 because he's just an allies in that many countries of iraq. ah ron, in way they don't want to have their relations that they have before. those are opium countries had before with the russia. it's break. and because of this, the conflicts at the work that exists between russia and ukraine,

that's why vladimir put dean is looking for a potential countries here in our continent. i a here in nafrica to have a relationship in order for that. those oh, the, the russian economy or other stuffs cannot go down a deep leave. because that's why vladimir puts in is looking for a those countries who are available, who wants to create a new relationship, or who want to strength, the relationship between africa and russia. another country that is part of the african russia refit. if kenya, while the u. s. drowns the continental debt and prevents it from financial freedom . kenyans are using the beliefs for see from russia to look forward. president, 14 has said that most for trade time has been going year to year and has reached to

up to 18000000000. as of the end of last year, they're moved by russia was trained then the ties between africa and russia promoting of cooperation in very effective including trade, energy, health care, and education is what the locals are looking forward to. as most importantly, these come best tax relief for africa and pacific care now being beneficial to that, to be sure. and this is good news, as they can as public debt has crossed to the 72000000000 mark for the 1st time in december, pushing it to the 80000000000 dollar silly set by the parliament in june last year . these cons at a time of a week can and ceiling, which has build up pressure on the country. the external debt repayment would sum up to 69.3 percent of foreign debts denominated in the us dollar. borrowing money from the waste that has left the accountability from our leaders.

therefore, money by going to the leaders tockets instead of being used in the development of the country this. this is a huge problem for us as a country. the solutions should be holding our leaders a constable and trying to win. the hopeful misuse of fan kenya has states and as his taxpayers are paying for their canyon and the day keeps piling up at the managers, elite is popular. so the solution is to hold him accountable and charged them in the court of law. but the problem is, we keep collecting insanely liquors who are seeming kenya is one of the countries in the horn of africa facing a crippling salmon and drought in the coming weeks. rushes decision to supply free grain to need, the african countries couldn't come at a better time to save lives. we discussed the further for now it is still a statement. bears have been much that has been pushed in terms of developing into

something best tangible. so if we could just to materialize at the moment, but some of the countries in the continent they require foot. so generally that will be a good, a good sort of a development for form of cranes to come to discover, especially when you go to the west africa part of the continent. the issue there remains to be the higher food inflation. and of course, in the going to the middle of the continental, we're going to cover like our a wonder and other thing. so we have countries that have high inflation, that as a race between our 2 into 4 to some, even 60. so it's a significantly higher up there. and then when you come to the southern part of the continent on, you know, we have had issues with the excessive water or would such as condos, lex and africa experiencing us via flooding. but fortunately for so the figure out we have received estimates shown but our, our grains are somehow a little bit higher compared to the previous susan, which is good for the region. in july this year, african leaders will,

again convert and russia this time in st. petersburg on the agenda is african moving forward and not being held back by loans. they cannot pay. there's a lot of excitement on the continent with russia. recent moves, giving a taste of what's to come. well, that brings us to the end of this week, so we hope you enjoyed it. you can of course, always catch us on our social media handles that you see on the screen. we'd love to hear from you, and not only regarding this week show, but also last week when we were in some on next week, we'll still be here most and be addressing the issue of b colonization of education. and so from now, until then for me and the team as people here say, audio the ah,

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