against german colonial rule, kaiser wilhelm the 2nd was fully determined and ordered to suppress the rebellion with the utmost severity against the inhabitants of nam may be a germany through it's 15000 well equipped army. all around the country concentration camps were built. in humane medical experiments over citizens were conducted within the period of 4 years. the germans killed up to 60000 people, among which there were 80 percent of the hero tribe, and 50 percent of the nama tribe. the events in south west africa are called the 1st genocide of the 20th century, and not without reason are compared to the holocaust. just 2 decades later, after the massacre in namibia hitler's assault unit put on the same brown colonial uniform which push the world into the chasm of the 2nd world war

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well, direct. what is true? what is great? in the world corrupted, you need to descend a join us in the depths or remain in the shallows. ah ah, the hello and welcome to this weeks africa now show i'm policy and i'm with our team in the canyon coastal city of mombasa. this week we explore the wives of terrorism and extremism in africa. and for this reason we've chosen kenya this east african country has seen some of the worst terror attacks in recent history. most of the

attacks are carried out by the hour shabbat militant group and its supporters who cross over from somalia to the east. oh, we got rid of that. what happened with that? what happened with, with 2 of the worst her attacks in recent kenya history. where with the westgate shopping center and the 2 sit hotel complex in the capital, nairobi, we will refuse permission to take our cameras inside by the strict security protocols in place in the country that we did manage to bring you. the following reports been more wet. you will one of the more than 150 people injured during the

westgate shopping center attack. the september marks 10 years since 67 people were killed. we will you, when that attack happened. thank you so very much. also for having me on this program this morning. and as i told you, my name is ben waller. i'm my strategy in governance consultants based in a row be. and for me, september 21st. 2013 was a saturday like any other. i remember being a saturday, you know, you don't have a very tight program. i was to meet up a friend of mine actually at 10 o'clock. unfortunately he's had a problem with this form. so he used a friend's phone to call me and informed me that you'd be getting is if i form the repair shop the phone as a repair center,

just right next to westgate. i'm not sure whether that's the case to today. and we've made our way through the traffic and i was a security barrier were just driving an intentional to drive to the roof, where there were a couple of restaurants for lunch. and while on the security barrier at that point is when we had one very loud band, much later came to get the i think it's one of the grenades. they threw into the cafe, which was located on the ground floor. and after the loud bang, it was followed by gunshots. and we went, 3 of us, the car, and we debated amongst ourselves. and our thinking was perhaps it's just a robbery, or maybe police trying to, to, to get to some tags or something. one of the security guards i remember, was also hiding right next to me in for, to a just separated by a small trump of flowers. and it's, as i was trying to take cover because where it was i was sat in a bullet,

could not find me from the road. that's when i saw 2 men walk into them that there were 2 gates to drive in. and that is the 2 lanes to drive in and 2 lanes drive out. and that's when i saw 2 men walking one through the driving and the other through the drive out. and i remember very clearly the particular guy who came through the driving was wearing the hats coverage on his head and he had bullets trucked around him with rifle, i make a 47. and that's when it hit me that this is probably more serious than the initially thought, but there was hardly any time to do anything. now you, you are here and the particular gunman is like maybe 3 or 4 meters away. so you cannot run, there's nothing you can do um and it was, it was quite

a moment for me. so, oh, what i remember vividly was e took aim at the security guard was hiding will right next to me all was taking cover right next to me. and is your shot in the head? and i remember blood just spluttering all over the place and now i didn't know what to do. so my thinking was the only targeting the security guards and it was in those mom in, in those seconds that i saw him. amy's rifle at me. and you see, oh, where i was, i was only separated by my car which was right next of, of the barrier. and all i remember is i had a very loud, but it was louder than anything else i had heard. and at that particular point,

i didn't know whether i had been shot or not. after that shot, i could hear the gunshots, proceed from where i was. and i could tell from where i was lying. one of the gunmen went to the basement of the moon, and the gunman went to the top because you remember there was me him, the rooftop. and whether there was there was a cooking competition by children. and i remained in that position for a couple of minutes. and i wasn't sure whether i'd been shot or not. all i remember is i could see because from the position i was in, i was lying down, but with my, my leg folded, i could see a lot of blood on my right leg. and because i could not feel any pain, my imagination was this must have been perhaps the blood that was splattered from the victim. i had been shot in front of me and i saw one pass on open the doors from their car and walk out of them all with their hands raised up. then i saw

a couple of other people walk out. and it's, at that point, i thought perhaps it's safe, maybe it's rescue that has arrived. and i walked out with my hands raised up. i was limping, actually, particular point. but i managed to get out of the gates when i got outside the caged. that's when i was so there was a fairly, there was a team of like 3 or 4 guys. i will never allow terrorists to dictate how i leave. because to me, those are cowards. i mean, if you have a grievance with a kind of government, oh, you have a grim or you, you think you're man enough? go to the face l a military of god, fail a police. but why is terrorism on the rise in africa and who is responsible for us? before we can investigate these questions, we take a look at who are the major grouping in east africa on ship up was established in 2006. as a splinter group of al qaeda,

its leaders thought autonomy and the operations to come to the west. wising from the impoverished ranks of somalia, disenfranchised the groups goal is to create an islamic state and to combat the increasing influence of the united states is malia an important country. geographically, horn of africa, that opens the gulf of aidan to the middle east. while in west africa, the same story unfolded in nigeria, we boca her rom, which means western education is forbidden, has extended its reach since its rise in the early 2 thousands. the group was responsible for kidnappings, most notably in 2014, when they took hostage maybe 300 school girls in she balk, geared and making the country ungovernable in an effort to push western influence out of nigeria. as for the slamming state, despite the defeat in the middle east, they numbers and frequency of attacks continues to grow mozambique as western countries show no signs of slowing down their operations for natural resources and

increased profits from gas, gold, diamonds, and ruby extraction. the violence and clashes unlikely to accelerate kenya, both the united nations headquarters of counter terrorism in africa. from kenya, the u. n. monitors and conducts operations against preventing the spread of terrorism on the continent. but very often it is these operations that perpetuate terrorism, in africa. i spoke with dr. hassan hannity, an expert in strategic affairs, and asked him for his opinion. thank you so much for joining us here. and auntie africa ducked out at the moment, one of the current trends that you notice with regards to terrorism. there he's been a change in typically considering coming back and the number of dynamics have taken place. the least we that they'd defeat of icy suspiciously

in its ability to hotels hurry. now what you're seeing is expansion of isis in other homes by setting up a province within the country, especially in this, i help the home and central africa region. why can't the american get a handle on terrorism when they poor so much money into countering it? while efforts by the native states, especially if they renewed efforts under the ministration to counter shut up, in particular, allowable aids, extremely limited impact because the critical aspects, which is the developmental aspect, is not at being could see that sufficiently. so territories that have been liberated for much of a, for instance, are not exactly been followed up by the soft power that requires that those communities are no longer lead vulnerable, a that to back to local warlords or by the extremist. and so focusing on the hot power alone has limits and that has been demonstrated. and i think it's going to

require, for instance, the united states as well as those who are fighting terrorists, mean africa to rethink the strategy holistically. the width is fighting or trying to fight terrorism in east africa. does this? i've only not increase terrorism in this part of the world. over lions on hot power has a direct impact of cause on fueling the seeds of descent and grievance. in part because at some of the kind of damage, for instance, the done by drones, had an exploit it by all shap but, and the sort i found it because then when you killed civilians in the process of conducting a mission, eights for the for terrorist organization and tennessee ology. now, if that again is not followed by a different mechanism that can be able to inspire a hope of cause. what you will be doing is driving people farther into the arm. so to still going is ations as opposed to being the opposite. and so what is happening

aren't people being driven into the hands of terrorists, to some degree, some of the methods employed driving people into extra music. but on a whole, i think eve, those engaged in fighting terrorism. i going to have a holistic approach, especially the economy can political aspects to ensure the school of law to ensure they cannot make developing chronic draws. to be sure these pieces of ability, i think that is the only long term solution. and what kind of hot power, what kind of operations is the waste fueling in east africa that is sending people into the arms of terrorists. the west, of course, is conducting a number of oppressions. some of our some are of that. now some are attributed directly, or at least, you know, the width will acknowledge. one is that the united states may acknowledge, conducting certain operations and taking out terror leaderships at and some of it of course, you know, no one claims responsibility for it. but those especially hard power operations

that takes over involved civilian casualties at exactly the kind of of activities or actions that actually fuel a terrorism. i'm disappointed in the way the west is handling the increase in covers. and i would say as the efforts are in patient while some of it, especially in taking a leadership survey, chabad is something that he's, you know, he's positive. i think to the extent that said, the, you know, sufficient economic and institutional engagement to ensure long term stability. it's disappointing to the extent that now the world and the western world has been extremely involved, especially in places such as african somalia, that they current your politics seem to have some of the energy outside the priorities on the continent. the home, of course, is something disappointing and is something that i think that the region has to go

to attention that those players need to play more by strong. if we actually have a we, if we have to puzzle jane we and lasting piece or justin africa. but i think in the global south, as we have seen everything kits, if you were to give some kind of prognosis to the future of terrorism in africa. the story looks bleak or positive. i wouldn't, i would say somewhere in between. the depends with the kind of efforts are going to be made, especially in the next one or 2 years. if there's going to be concerted effort and the international community, as well as the continent of the focus, it's an ideal fighting terror. the likelihood that trajectory is going to be positive. if on the other hand, we get consumed, we've had the issues of the politics and take our i of the terror trade is going to consume the continent. and that is where the allies a scene decades ago groups that boca rom,

al chabad and his stomach state was so small that they were not considered a threat to regional security. but today all of that has changed. i visited the old town of mombasa, which was discovered by the portuguese back in the 1400s to ask people there what they felt. i'm in g y kaylee, the old town of mombasa, where the never streets, the religious flags, and the fact that there is a mosque on almost every street corner lends itself to the fact that so much extremism comes from these quarters. in fact, we have a police presence because it's unsafe for foreigners and journalists to be in this part of the town. the issue and the problem of terrorism. i shall blend me, train politics, wrong politics. beat little bit of people who are beaten and lose the people. and religion. most people here do they like america or they don't

like america. he or william? oh the will will. my shop is located here. i think so like 55 to 60 percent north lake america. why not just because of the involvement k a get? mostly. their perspective is about really john the maybe maybe i, if i'm to mention i've seen the thing that american, what they do of denise, the muslim countries are medically comerica, supporting lackeys or things like that. you see the find that they're being pushed . that's why the react industry to be found from what we've seen so far. it's a bit vague. we see more of the canyon, the security operators within the country doing a lot more where we could have been assisted with the americans to make sure that the safety of all citizens in kenya is looked after. but to, to be frank,

if you asked me if it's felt, it's not felt why, why don't you want to show us your face and to many people here feel the same way you feel normally it's not unless you talk about the other country. and then is in my country is not good. sometimes your 1st maybe be accused accusation to are forcing, but to, for someone knows why does america one? kenya, a america is not really fighting terrorism to wise america involved. i work in america said they are frightened till but i don't think they're fight if they're fighting della this should be brazil. can you help in kenya? every day, those are some of our coming inside the district or country. they're taking our people every day and sometimes they went to the hospital, they took the doctors,

they are taking every day. they are putting bombs on the roads and then cause i've destroy i think i don't think they're helping while they're outside there. there should calmly and help. so what are they doing? why are they here? if they're not helping they're here to funding give us to stay with us to show us this is tara, this is what they don't do. both those attacks were carried out by somali, militant at the market issued government no longer once american assistance in fighting tara, it is come up with a unique way of dealing with the problem. dr. for to my alley of the u. s. into national university in africa, agrees with the approach. i think the approach of the government is the hud approach using the military because now this is like combat and fiercely warming them and talking their own home. and yeah,

so it's really comp derek and direct contact to fighting that you work with local militias in different areas where this local militia is not in the same ideology show. bob and they do not really he to various the, to me seem to petition of maybe the next all the religion. so you have a pockets of sub sophie. this is, he is also and also following the thomas political ideology but the perspective. so they're not in twine with the ideology of us above, so they're able to help the government to push out and come up from 2nd refill. and then the problem will be, even if they approve the bob from these places,

they'll be a vacuum over governance of the ship. so the challenge is how many government, if companies, it's presence in all those abs. secondly, the confidence interval build confidence in the people that they're bringing permanent stability, removal above, no other group would come requests. yes. and then then the can to move forward. so i think that's also the other thing was how to deal with internal politics when it comes to cleansing, because that's is always one of the red folk of different for manya. and i think also this is what looks like are some of capitalized. so their leadership would only have been loyal to people of their clansman newman. yeah, the fight against tara is not always what it's seen in west africa. the terrorist group boca have arm was started by extremists who believe the julian government had

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i bench it's yeah. wonderful. going on. but he died beyond african american care and dizzy. when when one day a big gun going she's out ofa and elijah could you appear wonder now? good. yeah. cushion the fact is that terrorism in africa is on the wives and will continue to do so. for as long as countries, i'm not honest about what is happening on the ground when skirmishes and conflicts are given the label of terrorism. it allows the west to get involved for the only reasons and their own agendas. these powers, like the united states, france and britain very often claimed a fighting tourism in africa, which has a convenient excuse and to which they can hide the operations to extract oil, gas and minerals, as well as the influence local policy. well,

that brings us to the end of this week, so we hope you found it interesting. you can, of course, always reach out to us from one of our social media platforms until we went through again next week from me and the team hearing tenure co, harry good bye. ah ah, when this conflict ends and it will end, it must get there will be again, commercial relationships. so be social relationships. they'll be family relationships. it's going to take some time, but it's natural. and, you know, there isn't going to be a great wall built between ukraine and the russian federation.

some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities and other countries. united states of america is different. wearable people long to be free. they will find a friend in the united states, ah, with a little bit of i do about it all to anybody phase. so the city draw. you look at both a incentives and we figured a few color revolutions is one among several means to reach the goal of conquering foreign lands and bringing them on to the help of u. s. western economic interest. people think sadie, i did that. he did to everybody the demo during training course. so no,

we just say low their soft power. i mean, he can. the final goal of these thing revolutions is to ensure that there are no independent players in the world anymore. oh, as alex help headlines on our team and the russian defense ministry says, ukraine has lost more than 6 thousands of soldiers over the past month. the u. s. and it's western allies do seek to prolong the conflict. meanwhile, russian troops faced fierce resistance around the dawn bass ton of marine cut, although they've captured at least 10 prisoners. as we understand, we'll hear exclusively from russia and fight us on the frontline. just a touch later on this program, a more off taking part of the.