and then just in case we should be very careful about artificial intelligence and the point obviously is to place trust rather than fear. later on various jobs with artificial intelligence, real, somebody with a robot must protect its own existence with oh hello and welcome to african. now in this, so we explored the brutal farm killings in south africa that often go unreported by the world's media. in the last 6 weeks, 8 farmers have been murdered in the country, which means that each week,

at least one farmer is been killed in south africa. but that statistic only tells half the story. for every farmer murdered. there are 57 attacks, according to watch dogs in south africa. the survivors of those attacks are forced to spend the rest of the lives re living, the nightmares, brutality and torture of their ordeal. here are some of the stories i came home from school after dropping my daughter and i opened the gate. i drove in, i got out and i closed the gate again. after locking the gate with her bed lock in a jail, when i walked back to my bucky, the 2 suspects came running out of the millies. they were about 10 meters away from me, but as soon as i saw them, they were ready on top of me. i started screaming, they had a kettle, prada, both of them grabbed me on my neck and they tried to choke me almost post art. and they say to me, if i keep quiet in the let me go,

they won't strangle me any will. both of them grabbed me locked close. i was back like a saw. i couldn't see everything, but both of them had their hands around my neck. and they drove me into the house, they told me to open with the keys. they forced me to open up for them. the main guy, the boss guy, he get threatening that if i dont co operative is going to shoot me. this is the best each with a made me law, dont i had to lie. yes. so that i couldn't see outside this one was my daughter's room, the one that the that staying with me. so i ransacked everything as well. went through all the stuff, stole the little bit of money that she had saved up. i spoke to a as well. this is a mind bedroom. all the furniture is up because i moved. but they stole the roof sheets off. the lights off, the wires ripped up there and take everything. when it started,

i just thought to myself, to die, i'm losing my life when also them coming for me. it to the 1st to action was to die . i'm going to die off the wall because it took so long i was worried about my daughter and what would happen to say something would happen to me one sunday morning as i turned around, looking in the kitchen, i saw them at the back door, pointing a gun at my husband's head the, the guy with a gun and he was a pistol. he shot at my husband and for some reason, my belief that was the law that prevented him there. that the bulletin striking because i went into the door right next to his face and he would, they was shooting from a very, very short distance about telford meter. and to miss at that distance is quite incredible. even the police couldn't believe that full on the main came into the room with a bala crow of us and the gloves. they took everything we had. and they stuffed a dirty rig into pitiless mouth as he was lying on the floor. and he couldn't

breathe because these nose was swollen by. they didn't because of the way that he sees on the seat. and i say to them, please check out the rig and let him sit against the bead. otherwise he will suffocate and then you will kill him. you don't want to kill him. it was 8 o'clock in the evening. we just finished having supper. and my son went out and asked him to go and close the garage. he went out and i heard a funny noise. and at 1st i thought he was my son playing with it all go, you know, something like happening. but i was a little bit worried, it sounded a little bit odd. so as i got to the garage to the door to open it, it opened towards me and i faced a balaclava and, and a gun coming at me, which is terrifying. and so i retreated, i think most people instinctively will do. and luckily for us,

the person didn't follow me. gave me a little bit of time to, to regroup. so i, if i retreated to the bedroom and i told my wife we will be probably we're armed intruders coming into the house. so i opened the safe and put out my firearm and she tried to get the radio going. snack minutes. felt like a very, very long time, you know, because you can hear this banging away and you don't know if your children are okay . what's going on through this little curtain that i was peeping. i could see this door fling open and here came the 1st sug with my daughter for the firearm. if i'd been in the middle of that room with my father on, he was just just move me down. there's no way i would have been able to shoot him with with my daughter in his, in his arm and by some rico. they didn't see me. so i saw i was in this tiny little corner with, with my firearm. and the 1st man with my daughter,

with his arm around her neck and with a firearm. he will pass straight past me and like i say at arm's length and then a 2nd man will passed. 3rd man, 2 of them were armed, 3rd one was passed. 4th one stopped, i think the room was fully was there, and there was no space for them that made that made to my children and my wife lie down. while to explore this further, i'm joined by mattel collaborate, who is a senior analyst with the bureau for food and agricultural policy. thanks so much for joining us here on africa. now. we've just heard some horrific stories of people who narrowly escaped being killed. of course, the statistics of farmers is on the increase while the police and the south african government not able to get a hold on this. well, i think the, the police and government, as you're mentioned in general is that they are struggling pretty much like most arms of, of government. i mean, we have the issue of electricity supply,

which is one thing that, you know, for, for, for more than 10 years, we knew this exist. so crime actually has been around and has been at the highest levels compared to other countries are for, for that love for more than not 30, as, as far as you know, the democracy goes. as a result, the farming community has appealed to the international community for help. and one of the 1st countries to respond, and in fact, one of the only countries to respond has been russia, in your opinion, why have western countries being so quiet? so, um, did the western countries in your career, we haven't had quite a lot from them in response to crime in particular, but specifically with regards to, to, to fun meadows and, and i can speculate are, but at one point i am aware that one of the organizations have made an appeal to,

to the u. s. and the header are all true basically, to communicate this are this gauge of fun meters. and overall the crime in south africa. um, but it hasn't been like a fiscal response or a diploma. she put it to go, or any kind of support, but to be fair, i'm not so sure is this south african government or the police in particular have requested help in that? so the west has not responded in any way or form as far as weigle. and yet, at the same time, we saw rush of responding to the point that we have up to 15000 south african farmers actually in russia who are busy farming there. in your opinion, why do you think russia came forward and offered help? i think um, one of the things that the, the south african farmers have been doing in, in the very last 25 years or so is that they've been moving many across the continent are for, i mean, in as far as in west africa garden, i,

julie had been but majority in south africa, zambia and there are number of reasons one been that i think the south of them from us are still doomed to be, you know, some of the most experience, some of the most skilful on the continent aiming at you can judge by, you know, south africa's performance enough as fires for security is concerned, are competent nerves in global markets. and they are always keyed in or to explore other areas and other opportunities. and i think when russia came, he doesn't know putting to for others one to obviously go somewhere where they wouldn't freeze the same kind of thread as we're talking about. but secondly, to, to apply their skills in a different environment. and therefore, as yes a response was just one of the ways in which it allowed people to make choices. but these are the kind of choices that they've been making in the past quarter century

. as i mentioned, there are at the moment up to 15000 south african fir, at farmers in russia. what negative impact has that had on south africa? i don't think that much of a negative impact has happened or would be there in the sense that what we have observed over time, not only with, with the, the move to russia or other puzzle. the quenching is that overtime, south african ah, i'll see, number of commercial farmers have come to less than 40038000. they are bought from nearly 60000. so we, we lost about one 3rd of the commercial farmers. but in exchange, what happened was that you see those that are behind, they tend to expand their operation, they have access to, to more land and their productivity levers have also increased in dallas and decades. i saw that is

a combination of factors. um i think the other plan that we not talking about all you haven't mentioned that may be a contributing factor, is that the lend to form issues are still not fully resolved. and the discussions are on the lender form, make some pods or some part of the community uncomfortable for our audiences. who don't understand, can you just give us a sense of what you mean when you say the land reform issues and where we stand with it? in south africa in braver i would imagine the audience understand the political dynamics that to prisons of africa. you know, pre democracy, clean energy for, but in a nutshell, most of the agricultural lead to the land that it is available and or suitable for farming, is owned by white commercial farmers. so that is effect on some issue. is it significant that most of the farmers are white? i think it is significant in the sense that it is not the result. so it creates an

uncertainty. so when you are not sure what would have been the next 5 years or next 2 years, and agriculture or activities in nature, ah, capital intensive, you put money on the ground, ex, booked in 15 years late. but if you don't know what will happen the next 2 years, you wouldn't put your money on, on agricultural activities, be planting trees, or putting fencing or any kind of capital. you'd rather go somewhere where there is that assurance that in the next 5 or 10 years, you will still be working on that. so the uncertainty that is created by this are lack of solution on the lender form. and if i may just mention a little bit, the arguments are still around in order to address the past injustices if you like, where the minority she in the population or my daughter to father cottrell lend. there are proposals that are populist in nature,

that requires all the notion is that the lend needs to be expropriated. taken away from those who own it now, which majority are white for no composition at all? no, that would make any pos and uncomfortable if you have been fleming or you grew up your bond there. you've seen your parents and yourself put to money year after year on that land. and wendy, someone sees this needs to happen. it will make any one uncomfortable, and he will take the next opportunity to kind of cover your losses or avoid them before they help them. and yet at the same time, south africa remains the main food exporter in the sub saharan africa region. so the impact of these farmers leaving and the impact may be the summers choosing another profession. for example, a knock planting the crops is felt beyond south africa's borders. that happens and not only even from the production point of view, but we also are losing that international competitiveness in some of those areas.

because again, the other thing is that, you know, this kind of skills i'm talking about is another can ask you, is that you, you know, you just transfer overnight over 2 years. but this is experiential learning from years in. yes, i mean, every time you lose, ah, as you said, 15000 summers, you know, going to replace them with a 20000 skilled, capable experience. so there would be a transition. there would be a tam leg, but we haven't gotten there yet. however, truly i've been frequently and even more numbers that can, you know, can start to be a reality. and we have seen it, you know, with our neighbors on the not, and border dodge, you know, in insecurity, hunger, economic deprivation and lots and lots of socio economic under rest started with the issue or the issues around farming and agricultural policy being

mishandled. in a nutshell, i know when you talk about countries and i borders if you're talking about land. expropriation in zimbabwe for example, farms were taken away, but now they're actually given back because in the period that they were taken away from the white farmers, nothing happened to that land. so what is your response to something like that? madison was goes back to what i said earlier, that yes, presently, some us are getting back to the lens, but the experience is not coming back in by what is still a foot deficit country in many ways, even though some are coming begin, some skiffs are coming they're given, the government is injecting, it will take a lot more time to go back to those levels than it did to destroy. and, and then that's actually a silly us warning sign that your thing that this issues would send a message to any country that has a similar dynamic as we are on the me be

a moralist, as a similar situation as we do. but they're probably handling it different, but you think that this kind of countries really would like to learn from the experience of what happened in zimbabwe done go through their own because in the human suffering as a result of that is, is beyond any imagination yet real some of that experience is when a come to land expropriation, that it's not just a simple solution of taking farms away. but, but let's leave that discussion for one moment. i saw reports that russia has gone from producing 102150 1000000 tons of grain this year. that in part is attributed to the south african farmers who are there. so that just talks to what we're, what we're discussing, the kind of contribution that they could make in south africa. my question is that if the farmers are not somehow dealt with, what is the long term impacts on south africa? the crime in general is not address. this society would really go to

a west state. i can see how west can it be or what form it will be. but sydney is not the kind that everyone would like to see the aspirations of nelson mandela and formerly does that for this country for it's not going in that direction that they want it unfortunately. oh, what fun. as on the increased one of the questions, of course is why is the south african government and police not doing more to stem the tide? we post this question to people on both sides of the argument. we 1st have to understand what is the attitude from government. i mean, if the president of the republic of south africa goes to new york and says on bloomberg, that there are no such things as far murderous and killings of farmers in south africa. it means that he's actually telling a lie to the world because he's own police department gifts,

the statistics of how many farmers are murdered an elite and how many form occurs in south africa. we've had a couple of a little safety strategies been updated in the last 567 years from the police. but the action on the ground at the end of the day is not the basically due to resources. the one be concerned that we have is now the police budget has been cut by close to $2000000000.00 rent. the government came for what the police department came for with live a national, rural safety strategy. and they for launch that in 2019, which is a good and acceptable rural safety strategy. but it must be implemented and that is where we have the problem. the resources from the

police is not adequate, and it just stays as a document and say, this is what should be done. but the situation is of such nature that we go not only talk about what we should do, we must say, what are we doing? if you look at this, the sticks over the last 30 years that that t, l u. s. kept. and these are verified form a text and form. notice we've added 1811 white farmers and family members and visitors on farms being murdered against 280 black people. that begs a question to be answered where the interracially or not. and then the other concern is obviously they was instance instances of pharma tex we,

they were actually racial accusations or threats made to the, to, to the people not on all of it, but they were some and the other concern is that you have people, political people speaking from podiums, actually stirring up these racial tensions and saying, we must attack these guys. we must murder these guys. so there's no definitive answer whether it's racial or not. but there is a big possibility. the impact of these farmers is, is felt far beyond south africa as more forms of a catered in the landlines fellow, these in this project is to feed people. south africa is the main food exposure in the region. which means that this has a direct impact on food security in sub saharan africa. berlin,

chatam gay is in bobby and farmer who says, and i quote her, if we kill the farming community, we kill mankind because people cannot live without food. i don't know who's going to be feeding everyone because i mean, if we kill the farming community, we've basically killed likelihood. we're still mankind because, you know, you can know, do without food, eats a basic human right food. this problem that i'm seeing in south africa is just not in isolation, is you can see what's happening in moves. the beek, india receive the insurgencies that is also very worrisome because people are constantly having to run for their lives because, and i would you scale up in agriculture. if every time you need to now run for your life, we blast with everything. the human capital, the resources, the wonderful land, wonderful. where the wonderful everything. but with what is going on, we are not united host,

a lot of little kids that come over. we talk about different visions, vision 21st between to 63 and millennial goes 0 hunger by 2030. but i will be going to arrive to that if you're constantly having to made the person that is actually going to help you achieve that goal. this has to stop and the time for you to stop . now equally, we are talking about filings in the guns, but we silencing the guns. no, we not. it's almost as if we have a trigger. put your hands on the trigger. people been slaughtered into good muscles from good, all sorts of things, invitation happening in the communities in that's really affecting foot security. so we're going to remain foot insecure for quite a long time. so we really have to like now go back to the drawing board in, see how we can actually try and come up together and do a proper strategic planning and see how we can protect the person code. if we have

one common denominator, the stomach in the stone, my doesn't care about your political views. it doesn't care what color your it only case of a one thing in that one thing is the for this is food. and if we don't support the big fun my, the commercial from a in, protects them, then we have a problem. because then we not going to be able to have enough food to feed the people. the big pharma, the commercial pharma can also be very helpful. and instrumental in helping this more de farmer in the ones that want to go into the agriculture sector to help them . but how do they help them? is they are skid and was suddenly having to run boat, their doors get this firearm get that. so every time when you driving around, what do you see? the 1st thing you see is a firearm. that person is carry. and that shows you that is a problem. because if there was no problem would not be caring firearms. i've got your point, we live to get a firearms myself. why are we carrying them?

because of this problem that v. so i think it's fine that we actually ask again one more time to the government. all 55 countries to say this has to stop and it has to stop. now, food is very important. as far mood is increased and become more brutal, farmers and communities feel the need to take matters into their own hands. self defense and weapons training on the wise to the extent that it's now become common place for most people living in rural communities to carrie, had gotten archie, was invited to observe one such training session. in that day, we will go into specific training with the former, the family, and the neighbors. and the 1st aspect of training will be how to use a fire on how to use it in and around the house. we also do specific training, according to south africa, legislation of how and when you can shoot when someone is attacking you

or your family, or even your neighbor. as young boy, we didn't take it further and he's been training with regards to 1st a. if someone in your house he shot with your neighbors. sure. what to do to keep that personal life until the ambulance arrive. we then also issued him with a digital radio, but we cannot simply issue the digital radio and we, we actually keep him shining in how to exactly utilize this radio. in the end, we want all of this formats and their neighbors to have an effect of communication network. and this network must be broadened as time goes by to keep control, but you need to speak to each other and to tell them each other when they're safe. and windy or former started noticing that day or their own own police are hoping to arrive in a few minutes off. do you dispatch them to come and assist you?

most of the police didn't even have vehicles available to do that. so the farmers and people in the cities and towns started organizing themselves into community safety structures. and we assist with that. we have approximately on the 70 now on a national level. and the wiki, further supported the structures being legal advice, legal support being an issue, logistical support, administrative support, to help community se 14 south and to help communities on the rudo area with the forms or to site core selves as well as concern yourself. if you're hungry, you will go to a form and take the food, maybe take money and go away. why stay in 20 percent of the mattress and tortured the people. dear, that the torture is coupled with icons. there's, there's no doubt about it. while that brings us to the end of the show and the end

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