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that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. hey, republicans, the issue is jobs. the time is now. just do it! >> people really need help right now. >> a deninth president obama refusing to let up on the push for husband jobs plan. >> if congress does nothing, the american people will run them out of town. >> senator robert menendez on the president's big push. as the occupy wall street protests spread, republicans vote against the man who would police wall street for consumers. congressman brad miller on the grand old party of wall street. deep in the heart of tennessee, republicans voter i.d. laws are taking away a 96-year-old woman's right to vote.
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dorothy cooper is here tonight to tell her story. "politics nation" starts right now. welcome to "politics nation." i'm al sharpton. night's lead, president obama put republicans on notice. he is running on his jobs plan. earlier today he held a news conference to promote the plan, and slammed republicans for doing nothing to boost the economy. people need help right now. this is not a game, this is not the time for the usual political gridlock. will congress do something? if they do something, sick run against a do-nothing congress.
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if congress does nothing, then it's not a matter of me running against them, i think the american people will run them out of town. >> the american people will run them out of town. he's right. the latest "the washington post" poll shows approval rating for congress now is just 14%, the lowest ever. today the president also showed once again, he's willing to call the republicans out by name for putting politics -- >> he said his number one goal was to beat me. >> our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny a second term. >> not put americans back to work, not grow the economy, not help small businesses expand, but to defeat me.
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>> senator, thank you for being with us tonight. >> good to be with you, reverend. how do we get america working again? that's my focus. it's not about making anybody a one-temperature or two term president. it's all about how do we grow this economy. if we do those things collectively america will be better off and so will the president. when when they're focused just on making president obama a one-term president and use the filibuster 150 times to stop
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progress, it says everything about where they're at, which is not in the interesting of the american people. >> it seems like sometimes we're on different frequent sills. people are outraged, upset, teachers, firemen, policemen, students marching, civil rights leaders are getting ready to march. but then look at senator mcconnell and what he said today. it's almost like we're on one frequency, they're on another and we're pacing in midair. let me show you what senator mcconnell said. >> this is the same wasteful spending, the same burdensome union giveaways and same tax policy that has failed the american people in the last two years. they made it even less attractive to job creators. >> by adding a tax to snail business owners, a millionaire's tax, small business owners are
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not necessarily millionaires, maybe middle businesses and higher, but sometimes that's not small business owners. >> the reality is the president's proposal actually calls for a tax cut for businesses that, on the payroll tax side, if they hire veterans, they get a tax -- further tax cut. if they hire a longer-term unemployed person, they get another tax cut. this isn't about tax increases for small businesses this is about given tax cuts so they can create those jobs and put people back to work. all that is at the end of the day, i think people who are
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wealthy in this country, if we call upon them to be part of solving the nation's challenges would be willing to do so, in essence all they would be giving up is the bush tax cuts they received for the last decade. it seems to try to get america back on its feet, working, prosperous and growing again. when we have people back to work, not only do they have the dignity of work to help them realize the hopes and dreams of themselves and their families. they have money that puts money into the economy. they buy products and services that -- >> we're talking about 1.9 million jobs. >> it's a sad day when we have these kinds of serious times, but thank you for your time
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tonight. today the president also hit republicans for pushing the wrong ideas to get this economy growing. so their big economic plans is to roll backs protections, and have hidden fees on credit cards again or weaken consumer watch dogs? does anyone think that will create jobs right now and meet the challenges of a global economy? they're going to have to explain why it is they would be opposed to putting teachers back in a classroom or giving tax cuts to middle-class folks and giving tax cuts to small businesses. >> let ate bring in former republican congressman rick lads i don't from ignite with rick lads i don't laszio.
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>> i think if you look at the numbers, there's a reason why president obama has a 54% disapproval number according to the latest abc poll. 40% strongly disapproved. all i heard about was the political implications of what he was doing, not ways in which to bring the parties together. in fact, if you look at republicans in congress, they've only had the house for nine months. when you talk about the favorability numbers for congress, half of that, the senate is controlled still by the democrats. he did not address the key economic issues. if he wanted to get something done he would be calling for a corporate tax overall, pulling back some of the $2,000 and requiring businesses to take that money back to invest in america and hire people.
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>> you see why i say we're on different frequencies. rather than lay out a job creation program, he started quoting polls and starteding it me what the president should do. he still has not gotten to one republican idea for jobs. >> also, there's been a glossing over of the jobs package that's on the table. these are, and the president said this over and over again, these are previously bipartisan measures. the idea that somehow this is unpalatable to payroll taxes these are, as the president outlined today, the things that have made this country and economy great i just don't understand why it's been so roundly and quickly dismissed.
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>> this might shock and amaze you. himplts where is the job creation plan of the republican? >> the republican -- >> is it just obstruct the president? >> if you look at the presidential candidates, for example -- >> i'm talking about the senate, mcconnell, it is people voting. >> so they have a jobs plan, it's in writing, you can get it -- >> you're talking about the 59 -- >> no i'm not talking about mitt romney's who has 59 -- >> you're talking about the kantor -- >> i'm talking about the senate republicans have their own bill, which talks about things like trade. for five years the president has stalled these trade packets. >> for five years. >> he's only been president for three years. >> facts don't matter with you
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guys -- >> no, for five years they've been working on these trade packets, and they've been stalled. >> here's the point to make. you cannot raise taxes on businesses and expect them to create jobs. they need to know that they have a pathway that they're incentivize to invest in expanse in the u.s., that they can hire people without the fear of having less earns, fewers earns, less profits. >> they need people buying their product. >> but in my view, short term, and i think republicans would argue this. which is what i think the american people see through, it
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looks like an obama plan -- is not what we need. >> i mean, how are broke people going to consume from businesses. they've had a tax cut for ten years, it didn't incent -- give them an incentive -- >> that's not true. >> do you genuinely think that the republicans are pushing for any kind of grand bargain? >> i think, you know, there's a lot of empty think for president obama, a lot of understanding at his frustration. he was ready to put entitles 089 table. they walked away from it. taking credit for a drawdown in afc that were already announced. this was they said this was not
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a credible proposal. he walks away from bowles simpson, and he turned his back on them. he said nothing about entitlements. >> but he made the offers publicly, some of us were very concerned about it. what are you talking about? >> you can't invest in america when you don't deal with entitlements. >> the private sector has $12 trillion in cash. the only incentive they want is to win the election. >> you want money back from -- stop double taxes them. >> alex wagner, thank you both for joining us. >> you see where the debate is, and we're going to continue fighting these arguments, but at
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the end of the day we've got to get jobs. >> you just heard it, reps not only blame the president for things he didn't do, they even said he's been there for five years. coming up next, wall street protests rage across the country. republicans show their alienance to big business. plus rick perry is finally speaking about that explosive racial story that won't go away. does his explanation hold up under scrutiny? and only in america. my thoughts on the passing of steve jobs, a brilliant visionary who changed all of our lives. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. at bayer, we're re-inventing aspirin for pain relief.
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up next, should america have a new consumer watch dog? today reps voted against the nominee, siding with wall street yet again. corporations aren't people. they're reps. republicans. that's next. think twice. it may be a sign that your digestive system could be working better. listen to this with occasional irregularity, things your body doesn't use could be lingering in your system, causing discomfort. but activia has been shown in clinical studies to help with slow intestinal transit when consumed 3 times per day. 7 out of 10 doctors recommend activia. and the great taste is recommended by me! [ cellphone rings ] cut! [ monica ] i have a small part in a big movie. i thought we'd be on location for 3 days, it's been 3 weeks. so, i used my citi simplicity card to pick up a few things.
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the new consumer watch dog agency. richard cadre, not one republican vote. congress spencer bachus said the banks auld to be regulated. my view is that washington and the regulators are there to serve the banks. congressman, thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you for having me on. >> what do you think of this view? >> they've been on display -- they've shown no appetite of doing mission that wall street
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does not favor. one i think was direct was something vice president biden said. >> the reason the ceo is in the business, because they -- that guy making $50,000 bailed him out. bailed him out. at a minimum they are tone deaf. at a maximum, they are not paying their fair share. >> a minimum, they are tone
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definite a maximum they are not paying their fair share. how do you respond? >> i think he's right. i think americans are furious. they see the people as having gotten off scot-free. the people who are bearing the brent of it are really entirely without blame. it really offends americans' sense of justice. >> you have seen the occupation wall street and marches. the president addressed the outrage himself together. let's listen to what the president set about the feel that ordinary americans are having which in many ways have let to these times of -- >> you're still seeing some folks who acted irresponsibly
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trying to fight efforts to crack down on abusive practices that got us into this problem in the first place. >> yes, i think people are frustrated, and the protesters are giving voice for a more broad-based frustration about how our financial system works. >> do your colleagues understand this frustration is beyond just those of us who protest? ordinary average americans, i'm talking about police, firemen, teach e teachers they are frustrated, and seeing bankers, who helped to bring in economy down walking away with exceptional perks and the only ones being handcuffed
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are the ones protesting. >> i think they're surprised. sunday night there was an organizational meeting in raleigh, occupation raleigh. it was at a public park. i showed up unannounced. tlmp about 70 people there. i knew some of them. they were kind of liberal, certainly democrats, not fringe at all. i'm sure there were people who were fringe, but for the most part it was just people who was just frustrated this is not the economy i grew up in where there was a broadly shared pros speaker. more and more of our well have gone to fewer people. frequently it feels like they got themselves in a position where they felt like they could loot the country.
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>> they're not the trouble breakers, they're trying to stop the trouble by protesting it, and saying let's stop a go another way. congressman brad miller, thanks for your time tonight. join me in washington in saturday, orbit 15th for our march for jobs and justice. ahead, governor rick scott can't remember a promise on jobs. i've got the tape, rick. and mild interview with dorothy cooper, 96 years young. she's been voting all her life, but now a republican law may stop her from exercising her rights under the constitution. profile in progress. molly barker, she created the girls on the run program, to build the self-esteem of young girls through training and conditioning, focused on
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lots of politician forget campaign promises once in office, but florida governor rick scott seems to have a real problem with selective memory. since taking office in january, he's slashed education funding, tried to weaken unions, and started drug testing welfare recipients, but he came into office promising to create jobs. scott told voters his policies would create 700,000 jobs in seven years. but politi-fact finds scott is backing away from that promise. during campaigns, economists
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predicted florida a would create about a million jobe over seven years, no matter who the governor was. scott said his 700,000 would be in addition to that. >> that plan is on top of whatever the regular plan would be. >> i want to be fair, so here's another exchange from that debate. >> if you were going to add 700,000 jobs, we're talking about in seven year -- that's an awful lot of jobs. we're going to grow the state. but when reporters asks about the plan, scott sings a different tune.
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if you have any doubt that radical republican voter i.d. laws are an effort to suppress the vote, may i introduce you to dorothy cooper? this 96-year-old resident has voted in every single election over the last seven decades, but one. even during the jim crow era, she says she, quote, never had any problems casting her ballot, but tennessee's new voter i.d. law is changing that. dorothy cooper doesn't have a driver's license, so she needed to ride to get her voter i.d. she had her birth certificate, a
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voter registration card, and a copy of her lease, but was denied, because she didn't have her marriage certificate. this is shameless. it's happening all over the country, and it's impacting millions. >> from chattanooga, tennessee, is dorothy cooper. thanks for joining me tonight. tell me, ms. cooper, what happened when you went to get your i.d.? >> well, we stood in line for a while. we were thinking we were going to get it. then we found out that i would have to have my marriage certificate, so we went -- we left there, and we went to another place. that's when they asked me if i would like to vote absentee. >> so now, for 70 years you've been voting with no problem, and when you heard about this voter
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i.d., you tried to get this, and you wouldn't give it at one place. at the second place, they offered you to vote absentee? >> they asked me if i wanted to, and i said yes, because of my age, i probably won't be able to go to the polls and vote too many years, if i live that long. >> so you went an extra effort and finally at the second place, you voted absentee, because you were denied the right at the first place. now, even during jim crow days, you didn't have any problems voting in tennessee? >> no, i haven't had any problems at all until this time. this is the only time i've ever had any problems. >> now, you're 96 years old. you took the extra effort to go try to get the idea, even to a
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second polling play, so we can imagine that people that are not as energetic as you are and not as determined as you are, they would just be discouraged. that would cost a lot of votes. >> that's for sure. >> do you feel that this kind of law is something that you and others that have lived through the jim crow and other eras, do you feel this is something that you never thought at this stage in your voting life that you would have to face? are you surprised they would change and make these kind of strict requirements at this stage of the game? >> i never thought it would be like this, ever. >> well, many of us are going to fight to make sure it doesn't stay like this. i thank you for coming out and
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making the effort. thank you for try to keep on voting. you started voting 70 years ago. like you said, you never thought it would be like this. your gen investigation is changing for us. we can at least maintain it for those of us behind us. thank you for your time and effort coming out to share your story with us. thank you. dorothy cooper lives in tennessee, but as we've been reporting, the radical republican effort to suppress the vote is happening across the country. this year 37 states considered laws that restrict voting. in 13 states, those laws were passed, and across the country, people are fighting back. a group called tennessee constituent zen action launched a petition campaign to convince lawmakers we shouldn't have it harder for people to vote.
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today the obama campaign showed us how they stepped in to fight for voter rights, helping to collect more than 300,000 signatures to block a law shrinking early voting period. >> ohioans know an injustice when they see it. this is a spark that got everybody's attention. when they started making it harder for people to cast their ballot, it gets their attention, and we don't like it, and we've put a stop to it. >> thanks to thousand signatures, voters in ohio have already begun casting ballots. in maine, republicans passed a law eliminating same-day voter registration, but the group protect maine voters collected enough signatures to get a people's veto of that law on the ballot in november, allowing the voters to decide. republicans will keep trying to suppress the vote, and we need to keep standing up for the
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right to vote. joining me now is mary mancini, executive director of tennessee citizen action, the group petitioning the repeal that states voter -- that state's voter i.d. laws, and judith brown, the codirector of the advancement project, a civil rights organization focused on the issues of democracy and race. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> this story of this 96-yard work very, very touching, a compelling story, here's a woman who was voting when people in tennessee that were of african-american descent had to sit in the back of the bus, and she said i never thought i would see it like this.
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>> thank you for having me on the show. it's an honor. things are tough in tennessee. people are losing their jobs, their homes, they're under water in their mortgages. unemployment in tennessee in some rural communities is 20% to 25%. now with the stroke of a pen they're losing their vote as well? their right to vote as well? you know, this law will affect people -- senioring like mrs. cooper, but it's also going to affect a lot of other people. at the affect people in the disabled community, it would affect those who work two and three jobs just to make ends meet, just to put food on their table. they don't have the luxury of taking off work without losing pay to stand in line for hours on end. >> can this be repared? >> i think it can be. i think that the people of ten
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seeing are reasonable. we believe in free and fair elections. all we need to do is convince. state legislature that we are against this bill, this law. >> now, judith, let me show you something, let me show you what really was amazing to me. the chattanooga times free press showed that 126,000 seniors don't have photoi.d. >> that's right. so mrs. cooper represents a large bloc of seniors, and many of them went through life, where all they had for redress was the right to vote. now because they don't have voter i.d., they're taking that from them? >> ms. cooper's story is the quintessential story of this
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cycle. in 2011, when the republican legislatures took up these laws, they clearly had a plan of who wasn't going to be able to participate in 2012, and we saw the passage of these laws, but we're fighting back. the folks in ohio have shown us we will not sit back and allow these legislators to take away our participation. we will have to fight state by state, people will have to stand up and say we want a vote in our election. we are seeing the largest rollbacks in voting rights than we have seen in a century. we cannot allow that to happen. >> let me show you, judith, why many of us in the fight for democracy and civil rights community look at whole voters are that have no i.d. 15% of the poor. 18% of elderly. 20% of young voters between 18 and 29.
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25% of african-americans. these voter i.d. laws disproportionately attack the people who really had to fight to get the right to vote. it seems very targeted. >> that's right. >> then let me answered critics who are saying, yes, but we have to fight voter fraud. let me tell you something, mary, let's look at the facts. "rolling stone" came out with the fact that in -- from 2002 to 2007, get this, the bush justice departments probe during those years, out of 300 million votes cast, 300 millions, prosecutors convicted only 86 people. >> that's right. >> these 0.00003%. 0.00003%.
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so we're going to disrupt all of the democratic process in this country for 0.00003%? this is incredible. >> it is, and you're right. >> go ahead, mary. >> you're right. the voting is the most level playing field we have. right now what we're telling people is we're taking away the right to vote. in order to get it back they have to get a photoo i.d. it really is incredible. here in tennessee, we have a great system in place, a hefty fine, a heavy jail sentence for anyone that perp traits fraud. we have caught a few people, very few, which means that the system already works, so we don't need -- this bill between a solution in search of a problem. >> judith, i'll give you the last words. >> listen, reverent sharpton,
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we'll continue to take this issue on, because we will not allow these folks to undermine our democracy. people should be able to participate, and we're going to make sure we're standing by them, fighting every step of the way. we need folks to be involved in this fight. >> mary and judith, thanks for your time this evening. we will be watching these cases and staying on this story. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. rick perry breaks his silence on the explosive story that raised serious questions about his views on race. but did he really quiet the critics? that's next. plus two symbols of american exceptionalism -- steve jobs and reverend fred shuttlesworth. we'll remember two out of the box visionnaries. stay with us. [ male announcer ] [ [ humana believes
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it's been five days since "the washington post" set off the controversy of rick perry's hunting camp, the camp he leased where a rock on the property had the "n" word on it. now he's finally talking. take a look. >> all of us agree that the word
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that was on the rock is a very offensive rock, very offensive word. at the moment we had to move to paint over the rock, we did. >> why are people coming -- the ones saying, wait a second, we've seen that word, we saw that word there over the last several years. >> i think there were some very much and strong inkonzancies in factual information that was in that story. i know for a fact in 1984, that rock was painted over. it was painted over very soon. >> and your family did that. >> my family did it. we painted over that rock and it stayed that way. i have no idea where or why people would say they have seen that rob. that's just not the fact. >> but we have two accounts. >> perry says it was painted over in 1984, but seven people interviewed in the post disagree. a game warden who guided turkey shoots for perry between 1985 and 1990 recalled seeing the
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rock, quoted, saying i remember the first time i went through that pasture and saul that, it kind of offended me truthfully. another local saw the rock during the same years, quote, i thought this was going to embarrass rick someday. and one former ranch worker says he saw it as recently as 2008. so sitting down for one taped interview on fox doesn't even begin to answer all the questions. joining me is jon thain capehart, el torrie writer for "the washington post." jonathan wrote about it in his column today. what do you make of perry's comments? >> well, i mean, they're along the lines of what he told "the washington post" when the reporters who did the story went to him and asked him about that rock. he said, you know, the word is
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offensive, my family painted over it, and they took care of it. unfortunately for rick perry, this is one more in a series of racially insensitive, to put it mildly, things, controversies that are laid at his feet. you know, i wrote two parts, rev, i don't know if you had the chance to see the second part, because it came out later. in the first part i grappled with the question why was i so bothered by this? >> right. >> it boiled down to how could anyone lease a property that was widely known -- whether it was on the rock or not -- painted over, widely known by the name we all know. how can anybody cross the threshold of a place like that, or let alone lease a place like that. he has to answer that question. in the second pardon, i want, you know, he has to take a page out of haley barbour's book.
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remember the governor of mississippi who was considering running as president this go-around. >> right. >> he too had a series of racially insensitive controversies pop up while he was considering running. remember his comments about the white citizens councils, his comments about how segregation wasn't that bad in this mississippi town where he grew up. ultimately he decided not to run. in a "g.q." interview done with a close friend of governor barbour's, he said if haley barbour could figure out a way to talk about race from his perspective in a way that would at least be persuasive, he thought he would run, but if he couldn't, he probably wouldn't run, and as we know, he decided not to run. rick perry either at the debate, the post-bloom better debate on tuesday or at some point has to be able to give a speech or some
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kind of interview where he can talk -- >> isn't that kind of late? >> no. >> the debate will be monday. >> tuesday. >> how much time do we give him? i don't know anybody in public life, including me, that you've given this kinds of time to. this is more blatant than anything i have seen in presidential politics. you're talking about rock on a property that seven people say they saw it beyond the time he claims it was there. at the same time, dealing with him defending the confess rat flag. >> that's why i say rick perry -- governor perry has to come forward and give some kind of definitive speech or talk on race from his perspective. yes, five days is way too long to let something like this simmer -- >> jonathan, we've got to go, but i think you're right.
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ago we all know, steve jobs died yesterday. years ago after he came back to apple, after having been fired from the company he founded, the company ran an ad called think different, about people who operated outside the box. listen. >> here's to the crazy ones. the mrs. fits, the rebels, the trouble makers. the round pegs in the square holes. the ones who see things differently. they're not fond of rules. they have no respect for the status quo. >> last night we had just gotten off the air from this show when
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i heard and spoke on the show about reverend fred shuttlesworth had passed away. he was a pillar in the civil rights movement. time and again, he put his own life at risk in the cause of civil rights. steve jobs and fred shuttlesworth were two great men. jobs understood you need to think outside the box. we lost two men that dared to think outside of what was ordinary in their time, and it became extraordinary in changing our time. when i thought of steve jobs this morning, i sat at my apple i looked at his commercial. if anyone understood the link with a shuttlesworth and

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