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this morning, legions of apple fans around the world are in mourning. tributes have been pouring in following the death of steve jobs at the age of 56. he has been compared to legendary innovators, thomas edison, henry ford, walt disney. sheer a particularly fitting tribute in japan. a virtual candlelight vigil using one of john's revolutionary products. the ipad. for first time in 20 years, "time" magazine stopped the presses so they could devote coverage to steve jobs. nbc's januaet shamlian. >> reporter: over my shoulder, people leaving tributes in the form of flowers and cards and apples. some with a bite out of them. the flags here again flying at half-staff as they have been since yesterday afternoon when apple issued this statement. announcing the death of steve
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jobs. and steve jobs family which lives in the community and calls cupertino home also released a statement saying that they are touched by this outpouring. he died surrounded by his family and now asking for some privacy in their grief. what we are seeing from apple employees, it is pretty much just silence. nobody is really saying much of anything. apple promised it is going to have some type of memorial or tribute for its own employees. certainly this is where steve jobs' loss is being felt the most, the place he worked, birth place of so many of the products that people all over the world use today. >> nbc's janet shamlian. it would be hard to overstate jobs' influence on how all of us lived. >> reporter: he was a college dropout who co-founded apple computer in 1976. within a few years, became fabulously wealthy. >> he is a regular guy who started in his garage with this
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idea with a friend. and built this thing into this multibillion dollar business. >> reporter: his secret, wow the consumers with cool designs and ease of use. >> when it comes to consumer computer users, the computer industry hasn't done a really good job of trying to understand them and understand their desires and needs. >> reporter: in 1984, he introduced the macintosh, calling it insanely great. there was a famous super bowl ad for the mac running once on tv but seen millions of times on youtube. >> we shall prevail. >> reporter: apple didn't always prevail. faced with tough competition, the company struggled trying to gain a share of the personal computer market. and steve jobs had an abrasive personality that contributed to his ouster from apple in 1985. >> there is the brilliant genius visionary side of him that burned very, very bright and it was this terrible dark side to him, too. >> reporter: he went into the movie business acquiring pixar
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studios in 1986, making a spring of hit computer animated films starting with "toy story." >> to infinity and beyond. >> reporter: then after an 11-year absence he was brought back to apple where his creativity revitalized the company. the ipod changed the way people listened to their music. >> today apple is going to reinvent the phone. >> reporter: and across the country there were long lines for the first iphones in 2007. then three years later they lined up for the ipad. changing the way people consumed needs. >> most of the great ideas when you see them you go -- of course. >> reporter: while he was brimming with great ideas, steve jobs was battling declining health. he was operated on for pancreatic cancer in 2004. year later he spoke about that in a commencement address at stanford university.
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>> this is closest i have been to facing death and i hope it is the closest i get for a few more decades. >> reporter: then in 2009, he underwent a liver transplant. on august 24 of this year, jobs stepped down as apple's ceo. he was a man who followed his heart and intuition to become one of silicon valley's great visionaries. steve jobs leaves behind a wife and four children. >> that was nbc's george lewis. of course, jobs, as we said, famously co-founded apple computer in his parents' garage 35 years ago. along with his good friend steve wozniak who joins me. steve, good morning. what are your thoughts about steve jobs this morning? >> i'm hit with all the things that kind of -- i love in my life the most. so much attributed to the way that man thought. he was just the greatest thinker i ever knew the greatest leader and greatest common sense and he could be so nice a person, too. and then i go back to our childhoods, you know. and formulating our values in
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our life and thinking how people should be and treating each other and what kind of person he was like. very much a part of the counter culture and trying to find those fittings between, you know, big money and governments and industry. and needs of common people. so it is -- very sad. so many memories of things you did together when it is -- you know, dozens and dozens of things and then all the evolution of apple and steve jobs himself going off into the other companies and having been right there and seeing how it happened. it is so much to take in one, you know, one day. >> having known him for so long, so much better than most people, was it clear even early on that he was going to be this visionary, he was going to do something great? >> i knew him that well early on. not recent times. but yeah, in those days, no, we were like all young people and lot of young people, i run into them all over the place now. they often have an entrepreneur
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mindset and want to be like apple. they want to go out and build great things and move and do these things and then have the same kind of internal passion and they have the same kind of thinking and mental skills and technical skills. but very few of them actually make it. >> what was his gift? what made him able to do what he did, do you think? >> he would think -- he would sit down and first of all, look at our product and if there is something lousy about it, just to appease the people ruined him, he wouldn't say -- yeah, this is okay. this is good. you know, no. he was the sort of person that -- if it was than good, he would tell people directly to their face which was sometimes a bad personality care haracteris. it was the ability to say no. steve talked about this before himself. the ability to say no is one of the most important things that a leader needs. it is not to put too much junk on our product just because other people want it. you have to have one mind and one direction and in every product you think out to have that kind of insanely great
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excellent product that apple -- steve became known for. home run after home run after home run. one after another after another and so, you know, when you see that coming you realize that the next introduction is probably a home run. i want to be on the direction the world is going. >> you know -- >> that's what apple does these day. >> it is hard not to think about what might have been. what products might he have come up with that we will never see now. how do you think apple will be without him? >> like most people, the short term -- steve was around for products that are in the pipeline for some upcoming time. months, actually years. so short term, i expect the same greatness in products. long term it is going to depend on upon the sort of people. finding other steve jobses within the company that think that way and i think very tight control at the top is part of the formula. why tamper with what works? >> steve wozniak on what i'm sure is a very difficult day for you. it is kind of you to take the
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time the talk to us. thank you very much. >> glad to have been here. hope you have a good day yourself. we are going to have much more on steve jobs, including more of that extraordinary commencement speech he gave coming up. while he is dominating the headlines, this morning there's also a lot going on in politics. the primary calendar has gone crazy with early states jockeying for position. twuns rising star of the republican party, sarah palin made it official she is not running in 2012, while businessman herman cain is trying to capture some of her tea party appeal, he is telling the occupy wall street protesters if you don't have a job, it is your own fault. >> i don't have facts to back this up. but i happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the obama administration. don't blame wall street. don't blame the big banks. if you don't have a job and you
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are not rich, blame yourself. >> i want to bring in our company, "washington post" e.j. dionne and washington bureau chief, susan page. susan, if you are not rich if you don't have a job it is your fault. what do you make of that? >> well, i think no politician should start an answer by saying i don't really know what i'm talking about. i don't think that's a very strong lead-in. in this economy and unemployment rate and people that played by the rules and found themselves laid off and gone to school and got degrees, can't get jobs, i think this message that -- herman cain's message seems out of sync with the experience of people who want to believe in the american dream and are willing to work hard but are finding it very tough these day. >> e.j., part of the appeal does seem to be that he says what he thinks and is plain spoken. is in a big misstep? >> it is outrageous is what it is. i mean, here had you a bunch of wall street guys who invented these completely irresponsible financial instruments, blew up the economy, and then a lot of people who as susan said were working very hard and doing the right thing find themselves out of work and herman cain will
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blame the unemployed and i think is just wrong. but it tells us something interesting about the dynamic inside the republican party. mitt romney, i think, is now objectively the front-runner again and he's pulling in a lot of endorsements. but all of the conservatives in the race, including herman cain, including rick perry, including michele bachmann, are going to go at him from the right. they are going to say he's not a real conservative. he doesn't believe what he says. and i think that could be a problem for mitt romney because his electability comes from the fact a lot of moderates aren't sure he is that conservative. and problem in the primaries a lot of conservatives are not that sure he is conservative. >> yes. somebody who got very far on her conservative credentials is sarah palin. let me play a little clip of her from last night. >> i apologize to those that are does appointed in this decision. i have been hearing from them. when they take a step back they will understand why the decision was made and understand that really, you don't need a title
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to make a difference in this country. >> susan, does she still have a role to play in this? will it make a difference if she endorses? we know she can raise money. >> you know, sarah palin is no going away. she is not running for president but has the ability to get the microphones there and has a hard-core of support that was enthusiastic about running. that didn't include most republicans but has a group that is with her. you know, we now see that -- mitt romney will be the establishment republican contender. there is going to be a finalist among the more conservative contenders to challenge mitt romney and sarah palin could have some influence are over which one of those candidates emerges as a candidate of the tea party in the conservative christian. >> e.j., how do you feel about christmas in des moines? i cannot believe what is going on. look at this new calendar. that's going to hold its presidential caucus the 14th of january. new hampshire will move its primary to the 7th. it could push the iowa caucuses back to december.
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what's this mean for the campaigns? not to mention our holiday plans. >> you should come to a big new year's eve party out in des moines, chris. i mean, i -- i think this was predictable that new hampshire and iowa will do anything to prevent any state from getting in front of them in this process. even if it meant having primaries or caucuses on the fourth of july of this year. so -- then florida wants to move up. florida is a more diverse state and it is a very diverse state. it is about ten states in one when you look at who moved down there. you think this puts pressure on christie not to run. although i wasn't surprised. i think he just really didn't want to run this time. i'm not sure how it affects the politics. i think what may affect the politics are southern primaries that come later which could give rick perry more life if he can get his act back together again. >> e.j. dionne, susan page, great to have both of you on. thank you. >> thank you. >> a gunman is still on the loose this morning after killing three co-workers and shooting at
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45 minutes from now the president will hold a news conference to talk about his jobs bill. senator harry reid is also mentioning he will be headed to the white house later today for a meeting. but a new poll shows an all-time low for president obama. 55% disapprove of his jobs performance. the president insisted earlier this week he's the underdog in the 2012 race. here is gop hopeful michele
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bachmann's reaction. >> underdog with a billion dollars. isn't that an interesting moniker for him? right now he's doing anything he can to try to find an advantage or silver lining. but there is no silver lining for him because what he's done to damage the economy and job creation is devastating for people across the country. >> now 20 dawes into tys into t street protests in the country and are only growing. philadelphia, l.a., seattle, boston, atlanta and new york where thousands of people gathered. yesterday organized labor rallied behind protesters in new york, now the rainbow push coalition putting its support behind the movement. joining me now reverend jackson, founder and president of the rainbow push coalition. reverend, always good to see you. you have led more than a few demonstrations in your day. what's your take on these? >> may i take a liberty and say our hearts go out for the jobs
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family. i have known steve over a period of time. not as a technical computer genius but acute sense of social justice and peace warrior. he was a well-rounded guy. not just a computer genius we talk about today. >> do you think he would have liked these protests? >> well, no doubt. he had the sense -- idea of making computers available for the common people is the kind -- kind of people's people. as for the wall street protests you are looking at the reaction of the abuses of wall street extremes, credit card debt. many youth cannot afford to go to school or stay in school. graduate and they are without a guaranteed job. the most unforgivable sloan a student loan debt. it would be a big stimulus to take the economy forward. that's an issue. secondly, bail out the banks. not link to lend another
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reinvestment. the result is that they keep investing and they are not lending and market continues to fall. there there is a substance gentlemen lit against the bank power. >> a lot of republican powers are starting to speak out about this. herman cain says if you don't have a job and you are not rich, it is your own fault. let me play for you what newt gingrich had to say. >> demonstrate deepest proof of obama's bankruptcy as a leader. of anything that you could see. because these are the people who nominated, these are the people that they appeal to and promise to go the future to. what they are saying is we have no hope inside. >> so he's saying basically that these protesters are protesting against barack obama, the man that they voted into office. i'm wondering what you think the impact of these might be. >> these are the same people who
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are saying dr. king should not have been in birmingham. he should have stayed in atlanta. they don't appreciate the power of the legitimate nonviolent protests. they would have the context of this is that 44 million americans are on food stamps and we have a surplus agriculture economy with no plan to wipe out malnutrition. 47 million americans are in poverty. 52 million without health insurance. there's real pain and and what you see here is an expression of the pain. those are protesting now, they are -- simply -- canaries in the mind. there is a bounding pain and we must address that pain. i'm convinced -- >> let me ask you how. i think that's the key question. you have some experience with this. how do you take this energy but a fairly loose movement that is popping up around the country and turning it into something that makes change? >> well, banks are still raising fees on people, for example. unemployment is rising. bank fees are still rising. the uninsured are rising.
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the insurance companies, fees are still rising. so people feel that just growing gap between those in the deck of the ship and those in the hull of that ship, there must be some -- a commission on poverty, malnutrition and human need and some sense the bank abuse and insurance abuse is government subsidized. i mean, you think about it, the five big oil companies, still getting a -- still getting the subsi subsidy. think about the bush tax cut extension for the rich americans who got more of a deal than all of the state budget deficits combined. these are extremes of wealth and privileged on the one hand and poverty on the other is rising. so there is what -- wall street or abolition you see people rebelling, demanding economic justice. >> reverend jesse jackson, always good to see you. thank you. >> thank you. first chris christie and sarah palin said no to a presidential run. now republican rising star marco rubio says he is not exactly
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dying to get the call for vp. >> i'm not going to be the vice presidential nominee. i'm not going to be the vice presidential nominee. i'm not focused on that. i'm focused on my job now and the answer is going to probably be no. >> answer will be no. >> you left the door open. >> mobile map international, mobile surgical units, hit hard times in its first years of operations. owner rick cochran asked employees to work without pay maintaining their health insurance. soon business boomed and the company was named the sba's 2011 small business of the year. for more watch "your business" sunday mornings at 7:30 on msnbc. [ male announcer ] humana believes nothing is more important than relationships. [ grandpa ] because it's the essence of just who you are. haha. there's my people. your family gives you a sense of accomplishment, satisfaction, essentially motivates you.
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the parents of a missing 10-month-old are making a desperate me this morning for the return of their baby daughter who was snatched from her bedroom crib in the middle of the night in kansas city. >> we don't know where she is or who took her. she just need her back. >> we are a close family. and my boys miss her. me and her father miss her. everybody loves her. we have a good family. and she needs to be with us. please, please bring her home. >> joining me live is the fou
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founder of the clauklaus found , marc. what do we know about these kinds of abductions? are they rare? >> they are rare. in fact, since 1983, there have been 278 confirmed abductions of infants. most of those, 46% of those, came out of hospitals. 40% were children stolen out of their homes. i think only 12 of those cases have gone unresolved. the typical abductor would be a woman who for whatever reason needs or desires a baby to raise and does not have one of their own. i think what people need to do is they need to see anybody that all of a sudden has a beautiful little blue eyed girl that didn't have one three days ago and inform the police about that immediately. >> yeah. clearly, it is not a newborn.
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because investigators say that they have no solid leads. beyond waiting, frankly, for people to call in who might see this little girl, i mean, where do they go with this? >> well, you know, my daughter was kidnapped in front of witnesses and the police had absolutely nothing to go on but a description and if it 00 been for happenstance that case may never have been solved. this is so troubling on every level. i think the one thing they have in their favor is the fact the fbi was on the case immediately and the fbi has a great body of resource and experience in missing child cases. they have the best people in the world on the ground doing this job right now. >> looking at these pictures, just so gut wrenching. having been through it and helped so many other families through it, what would you say now to the parents of baby lisa? >> it breaks your heart just to watch them, what they need to do is they need to continue to
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cooperate fully with law enforcement because, quite frankly, the numbers take you right back to the family. that's usually who is involved in any kind of a missing child situation. so it is incumbent upon them to eliminate themselves from suspicion so law enforcement can move towards the other possible scenarios which would include other family members and it would include neighbors and it would include peripheral contacts and it would include registered sex offenders within that community and ultimate nightmare, a stranger abduction. >> mark klaas, thank you so much. >> a live look at the white house. in 30 minutes president obama will hold a news conference. but first, at his peak of fame, his fan club rivalled elvis presley and the beatles. today david cassidy says he was cheated out of millions of dollars. that story and david next. ♪ sent her back to college for her sophomore year ♪
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welcome back. you are looking at video in soda springs, california. several areas picking up more than a foot of snow. i'm sure a lot of people are waxing up those skis. hoping for another epic season there in california. big storm coming to the west. we've got right now all kinds of beautiful weather across a lot of the east. exception would be down in the florida where we have an easterly flow there. here is the big storm of the west. rain and snow coming up through the rockies. lot of advisories out today. these are wind advisories in blue and high wind warnings in purple there. along i-70 and i-80, very strong south winds could be a difficult drive. coming out of the south, gusting to 60 miles an hour. these are red flag warnings in the northern plains. please be very careful with outdoor burning and no flicking cigarettes. as far as the forecast is concerned, again, it will be a lovely day across the east. there are your showers in florida. still windy in boston. beautiful in raleigh.
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76, very nice across the plains. we would like to see rain in texas. this storm will eventually bring us some. got showers here in warmer weather across the midwest. again, that rain and snow continuing across the interior west. about 66 in los angeles today. 58 in seattle. chris, back to you. >> that snow sun believable. carl parker, thank you. here is a look at other stories people are talking about right now. a dramatic day at the trial of michael jackson's doctor, conrad murray. more from michael jackson himself in an audio recording murray made before jackson's death. the king of pop talks about why he always wanted to help children. >> i had no childhood. i feel their pain. i feel their hurt. i can deal with it. >> prosecutors laid out bottle after bottle of medication on the courtroom table trying to show the jury dr. murray didn't know when to stop. tomorrow will mark ten jirns
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the u.s. went to war in afghanistan. hundreds of afghans are taking to the streets to dem demand the withdrawal of nato troops. the secretary general says transition of security to afghan forces is on track. the nation's largest retail group is expecting holiday sales to increase almost 3% this year. although that's relatively modest, it would continue a retail recovery that started last year after holiday sales fell the previous two years. steve jobs is being remembered this morning as one of the world's greatest innovators. revolutionizing the way we use computers, cell phones the way we listen to music and just to name a few of his influences. here he is with nbc's brian williams back in 2006 reflecting on the brave new digital world that he helped create. >> i think if you do something and it turns out pretty good, then you should go do something else wonderful. and not dwell on it for too long. just figure out what's next. >> nbc's richard lui joins us with a look at the man who had,
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i think, understatement to say an incredible imagination. >> good morning to you, chris. yes. he knew what would change our lives before we did. evidence of that, all you have to do is point and click. using a computer required text commands for decades. what's that, you might ask? does the blacking and white screen of msdos ring a bell on the left-hand side. now icons and computers or documents are the standard of ease. jobs brought us that. graph cal user interface. microsoft leader followed. just like it did with the mouse. created in the '60s did not take off until jobs put it together with a macintosh two decades later. it is now the virtual 11th finger many take for granted. the way younger generations see buying music. 16 billion sopgs have been sold on itunes and idea jobs salvaged from the failure of napster. cd. if you are going to college you probably never bought a new one of these and you never will.
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then there's what we watch. buzz lightyear. computer animated movies transformed movies after jobs purchased pixar from george lucas. under jobs' watch each film grossed $600 million on average. swipe is another revolution. kids nowadays see a screen, first thing they do is put a finger to it. trying scroll by sliding their fingers. jobs patented what seems so intuitive. he also made things obsolete. apple stopped offering floppy drives four years ago. the industry followed. your mobile phone, jobs said hey, no need for movable batteries. the industry is following. whether 7-year-old kid or 77-year-old grandma, people have seen how steve jobs made complex things simple. just as he did here with his commencement speech in stanford six years ago. >> remembering that i'll be dead soon is the most important tool i ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. because almost everything, all
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external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment of failure, these things just fall away in the face of death. leaving only what's truly important. remembering that you are going to die is the best way i know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. you are already naked. there's no reason not to follow your heart. >> those could be poignant and familiar words for some, chris, but like his products, it took on a whole new meaning when it came from steve jobs. >> unbelievable stuff. that speech is now online. it is really worth listening to in its entirety. thank you so much. once again, you know, the iphone, ipad, ipod, steve jobs created the line of products for apple that sold and made millions. cnbc's darren ravel is live in the apple store with a special "what's moving your money. let's start with how is apple stock doing today. >> apple stock is up today.
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i will say that maybe the focus of some of the people around here is over the course of steve jobs career 37 when he came back in 1997. if you bought 100 shares, this will mick a lot of people sick if they didn't get in, if you bout 100 shares of apple stock on july 9, 1997, shortly after he came back, it would have cost you $342. today with the splits and everything, it is worth $37,900. some guy told me on twitter he is upset he decided to buy that 1997 mustang. that's -- obviously that's one of the things with the money. the other blind blowing number under steve jobs in 1997, chris, apple did $7.1 billion in sales. today over $108 billion. they were the number 456th company on the s&p and now they are the number two company.
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so obviously under steve jobs leadership this company grew and made a lot of people money. steve jobs as well. according to "forbes" he was worth $7 billion, you know, when he passed. >> darren ravel, thank you so much. to the mega-tv hit in the '07s with former "the partridge family" star david cassidy who has now filed a lawsuit related to the show that made him famous and is now here in the studio to talk about the case. act actor, sing eer david cassidy. you filed a suit against sony. >> yesterday. >> big, big company. why are you suing? >> well, it is just a matter of trying to be proactive when you get the response that you don't acknowledge that we owe you anything, they never sent me statements. i'm entitled to a percentage of
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the net proceeds. excuse me. on the show, for the television show itself which has been in syndication for 35 years. the dvds that have been released the cds. and truly, as a contractually, we are -- we have been business partners and we are business partners. as opposed to it is sad that, you know, when you try and have a relationship that is -- i have been grossly underpaid. i have done everything i can, including tonight where i'm performing singing "the partridge family" songs in new jersey at the theater. tomorrow night i'm out on tour. >> you promote the "the partridge family." >> i do. >> you know, it is -- ubiquitous. i can tell you even though i have a young staff and said you were coming in, they broke out into song. they all know these songs. >> it has been -- internationally. i mean, the show is -- syndication now for -- forever.
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it is in various countries playing. it is awn round here in the united states. we are talking -- it has been -- successful half hour television show that columbia pictures television which -- conglomerate sony purchased. and for decades -- >> we asked sony -- i-want to at least show what they wrote to us. we have dealt with mr. cassidy in a completely lawful and appropriate way and we are confident that we will prevail in any proceeding. what do you think you are owed? >> well, until they open up their books, i was never able to audit them to find out how much i was owed for the last three decades, 3 1/2 decades. >> do you have a ballpark figure, do you think? >> my attorneys says it is tens of millions of dollars. the last thing you want to do, though, when you have an opportunity to have a -- an asset which has been legendary,
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i mean, everybody associates me, david cassidy, with "the partridge family." it launched my career. it certainly -- i had a lot to do with its international success. partridge family never performed live. we should be looking as allies as opposed to the last thing i ever wanted to do which i think is very sad to have to be treated fairly, with respect, and -- acknowledge the fact that until two years ago i didn't have a contract. which is like being a toothless tiger. contacting them over the years. saying really and truly, i just got a statement that said "the partridge family" isn't even in profit. and not to acknowledge with all of the merchandising that has -- had been done, i was the first globally marketed and merchandised human being all over the world based on a television and recording career. you know, i played the biggest stadiums all over the world. i continued to perform and promote "the partridge family."
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and i have always done everything i can on my part. and not to acknowledge that i'm entitled to the moneys that they never -- they never accounted to me for. >> good luck with the show tonight. as you con to tour. it is great of you to come in. especially to run over here. >> come to red bank tonight. >> we appreciate it. david cassidy. thank you so much. >> thank you. in just a couple much minutes, president obama is going to hold his first news conference since announcing his $447 billion jobs bill last month. he will take questions. a sticking point in the plan. what exactly does it mean to be rich? [ female announcer ] when kate collects her pink yoplait lids
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children who go to bed early and wake up early are healthier than their night owl peers. a new study finds early to bed, early to rise kids weighed and less exercised more than those that went to bed late and woke up late. even though they got the same amount of total sleep. researchers say mornings are more conducive to exercise versus nighttime. president obama's jobs plan has taken a turn. at the heart of it is a question that everyone has an opinion about. what does it mean to be rich? senate democrats who had launched a tax hike on people making more than $250,000 a year are now proposing a 5% tax surcharge on incomes over $1 million. harry reid says it will be political dynamite.
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joining me from washington, jose diaz. >> nice to see. >> did you hayy rerry reid says knows they will reject his plan but think public opinion is on their side. do you think putting it out there is a good strategy? >> politically it is great strategy any time you can divide or show the divide between political parties and even political ideologies including economic ideologies. it is a good way of getting people involved and hopefully more incentivized and into doing participating in the process. but, you know, in the final analysis, the big question is does raising taxes, do raising taxes at this moment, will it help or hinder the economy? we are just seeing numbers out today. you know i large number of unemployment. you know, unemployment certainly not going down. 14.5 million unemployed. if you look at the african-american community and the hispanic community, we have all been hit excessively hard
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with the unemployment reality. you are seeing there is no real movement for jobs in this country. and i guess the question is -- you know, does raising taxes help or hinder a possible economic growth in the future. >> yeah. that's one of the key questions that they are fighting about. of course, all this is playing out against the backdrop of all these demonstrations that are growing. city to city against economic inequality. so, you know, maybe, jose, one of the key questions is if all these things are piling up, this discontent, seeing it in the streets, does it change or just another sense in america that washington can put out these things politically but can't or won't get anything done? >> that's such a great question. i can compare and contrast with the obvious differences that are between the united states and spain, for example. some months ago, beginning of the summer, a group of young people with no real united agenda sat down and one of the main plazas in spain and they eventually became known as those
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that are indignant. you know what? initially they were forgotten about. now they are still -- they are still there and still taking more and more space in different cities. and now the government and the opposition is looking into that group of people and simply won't go away and are trying to channel those frustrations into some political movement or at least some political approval of a different political party. but you know what, i think that this has to be focused upon because the fact of the matter is that there are a lot of people out there that don't have jobs don't have a future. you will have organizations and different unions it seems that are now becoming part of this movement. but there is a nucleus there of people that don't see a future in this country. that won't go away unless jobs are starting to be generated. >> thank you, my friend. >> what a good day to see you. thank you. >> as always. you can catch jose every week night on noticiero.
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hi, everybody. welcome. i'm thomas roberts. live pictures at the white house. the east room where moments from now president obama will hold his first news conference since announcing his $447 billion jobs
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bill he announced in september. he's going to be urging congressing to do what he has been calling on them to do in speeches across the country in key battle ground states. to pass the bill. that's easier said than done. some democrats want a rewrite of that measure and republicans in the house oppose big portions of this bill including a proposed tax on millionaires and billionaires. want on bring in white house correspondent strike viqueira. the president is ready to announce without any details, why is lee hold thing news conference now and what does he come back with to tell america after travel thing country? >> reporter: part and parcel of the communication strategy. ever since labor day, ever since he took to the congress before that joint session of congress earlier in september, september 8 it was, thomas, announcing his jobs plan and some days later announcing how he will pay for the jobs plan and over the last couple of days that has been the point of contention. senate democratic leadership having a hard time finding the votes for this. we understand now that the president will be out in about one minute, thomas.
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they propose that -- president had proposed as a principal, buff buffett rule. tax on the billionaires. take the president's proposals how to pay that and make it a surtax to millionaires. 5% on everything over a million dollars. they say that will pay for the whole thing. apparently today what we may hear is that will be delayed. 2013. original proposal was 2012. the president has said, he has been the record, we should not be raising taxes in a recession, thomas. we may see some alteration there. again the president had bus trips. he has been all over the country. next week another bus trip to virginia and north carolina. not incidentally, of course. those are swing states for the upcoming election. meanwhile, republican primary race is on. we should be seeing the president any second now. >> mike, here we go. president obama coming out to meet the press. let's take a listen. >> good morning, everybody. i will

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