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on this new hour of "ayman", breaking news overseas where the search is on for iran's president after his helicopter crashed. republicans are already attacking the presidential debate, a debate that has yet to happen. what are they so afraid of? the gop's chances of winning control of the senate, higher than ever. what will democrats to do about it? let's do about it -- let's do it. we start this hour with breaking news. the search and rescue efforts are underway for the iranian

president after his helicopter suffered what officials have called a hard landing in the northeast portion of the country. drones, dogs, and helicopters are part of that search effort as fog and treacherous weather continues to hammer them. the president of iran was on board with high-ranking members of his camp at -- cabinet and other officials. josh letterman is tracking the latest. what can you tell us about the current date of this search and whether or not there are other countries involved in trying to find where the iranian president might be? >> for about the first 12 hours or so of this urgent rest you operation, rescuers could not pinpoint exactly where that helicopter went down. now, we have learned that they have been able to figure out where the helicopter is based largely on a cell phone only came from that helicopter. now, the task is for the military and search and rescue operatives to try to actually hone in on that location which

they are trying to do now, but it's far more difficult because the weather remains intensely difficult. there's a lot of fog in the area which frankly is also would lead to the conditions under which this helicopter went down and of course, it's now the middle of the night in iran. that is hampering efforts, as well. we are seeing a growing international effort by iran's allies and neighbors to try to help with this operation, including iraq, who is pledged assistance, and russia, which has sent two aircraft as well as helicopters and 50 search and rescue officials to try to help the iranians locate and hopefully recover the iranian president, the foreign minister, and others. we are hearing from the u.s., were chuck schumer says based on u.s. intelligence he has seen, there is no evidence of foul play and all indications are that this was a weather related incident. >> do we know what the president of iran was doing on that helicopter in that region in the time it disappeared?

>> he had traveled to this region in the northwestern corner of iran to inaugurate a new dam that had been opened in partnership with iran's neighbor, azerbaijan. that was 375 miles or so from the iranian capital of tehran and he was on his way back to the capital, when this helicopter went down and of course, search and recovery is still underway. >> we will continue to follow this news and bring you updates as we get it. josh, thank you. this was donald trump in 2018 telling supporters not to believe their own lying eyes when it comes to bad news about him before the republican party. >> just stick with us, don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what is happening. >> since then, the gop has fully embraced his, heads i

win, tails you lose approach, this sore loser mind-set. in the reaction to the upcoming debates with trump and president biden, after weeks of trump demanding biden debate him "anytime, anywhere," biden called his bluff and agreed to two upcoming debates, in june and september. you would think this would have actually satisfied trump and his allies but it did not. almost immediately, republicans like mr. ramaswamy and mike lee cast doubt on the fairness of the debate, calling it a setup and accusing the debate moderators of trying to help biden. right-wing figures, including trump's daughter-in- law and rnc co-chair said the debate is already corrupt and rigged. now, it's the same tired playbook we've seen from the

right, telling supporters that anything that counters their narrative is fake or rigged against him. jobs reports under the biden administration. they are "fake numbers" according to trump. f deiced.showing violent crime is down despite the rights fear mongering. they say it's biden, "cooking the books." it goes back to their efforts to undermine election results that do not go their way. we sought happen in 2020 and the gop is intent on doing it again in 2024. this is the alternate reality that the gop has cultivated for their supporters, to believe anything they say and distrust any inconvenient facts that debunk their narrative. they say facts don't care about your feelings, with really mean is there feelings don't care about the facts. we have an all-star panel to break this down for us. senior adviser at the lincoln

project, gop communications director, warmer democratic senator boxer of california. great to have you both. tara, as a former republican yourself, your reaction to this sore loser approach we see from trump and the gop, already, on the issue of debate, as much as they pride themselves on being winners. they sure don't sound like it in their constant complaining about things not going their way , saying it stacked against them or that things are rigged. >> they are not winners, they are whiners, and that is part of the trump brand. he has whined and complained about things being unfair and against him for years. he brought that to the white house. he was the grievance monger in chief. this is consistent with how donald trump behaves and obviously, the republican party has taken on his image and likeness all the way down to his red tie uniform. it's pathetic, but predictable.

this is what they do to rile their people up. donald trump is terrible at debating and joe biden is pretty good at it. we all saw joe biden winning debates in 2020. see what a disaster donald trump is on the debate stage and republicans know that. they do this to try to inoculate him from criticism in case joe biden beats him again in the debate coming up in june. >> senator, republicans have been waiting to get an answer from joe biden. they certainly wanted a debate and pushed for debate ahead of the fall and were waiting for that answer and got the answer they wanted. joe biden agreed to debate not once, twice, and now that they have it, they are complaining it's rigged before it even happens. how do you even deal with these types of people? it's a case of if you do, if you don't. >> what i hope is that sensible republicans, that the lincoln

project is speaking to every way -- every day, sensible, independent voters, will get theirs. they are phonies. they thought joe biden wouldn't debate donald trump and now they have to face the fact that you have two guys, who are both president for about four years, and let's look at the record. the first jobs record with donald trump, going after a woman's private decisions, stock market, practically doubled. the things that young people care about, mass shootings, all of this will be on display and they are panicked. >> when you see senators

refusing to accept the results of elections, this has an impact on voters. most of them said they would accept a biden win in november because they don't believe that joe biden can be donald trump again. >> enablers are the worst ones. i blame them more than enabling trump himself. donald trump is who he is, he's always been this person, it's not news. if people like marco rubio and others, that no better, and to base themselves, marco rubio is unrecognizable from a guy that ran for president in 2016. he was a promising senator, he was sensible, he was pretty moderate on most issues, and he has turned into a trump lackey

and it's quite sad. most people can see through the disingenuous nature of what he is saying but it is so incredibly dangerous and insulting to those of us who understand that the integrity of our elections are the hallmark, the cornerstone, of our free and fair democracy. the fact that they continue to chip away at this, to score points with donald trump, because for whatever reason, they want to be trump's vice president. they are selling our country and our democracy down the river so that they can have political relevance. it's ridiculous, it's dangerous, and we have to continue to call them out because there's no basis whatsoever to claim the election is not free and fair, or that it would be rigged, in november, if donald trump loses. donald trump lose because the american people recognize is a dangerous authoritarian lunatic that wants to destroy our democracy and joe biden is a good and decent man who has done a great job as president

who does not want to take away women's rights and take us back to 1848. >> when we talk about the gop adopting these authoritarian tactics, it all comes from not just the topic of donald trump, but i do want to play you this clip of him joking last night at the nra conference about potentially serving three terms if he wins. take a listen. >> fdr, 16 years, almost 16 years, he was four term. i don't know, are we going to be considered three term or two term? >> what your reaction? he likes to joke, but the way he injects the idea into the minds of his followers before we even get there is what is troubling, that he is normalizing the idea that he will come in and perhaps at the end of the constitution and get rid so he can stay in power indefinitely. >> he doesn't know that it's in

the constitution. he's going to be a dictator on day one, on the first day, he could declare martial law, i have to say, with donald trump was debating marco rubio. when he said, little marco, i'm a little person. he was pretty good. now he's little marco. what he is doing is bending the knee, i don't know, that is really scary and it's happening

all the time, that my former colleagues have given up their soul. how they sleep at night, we don't know. >> georgia republicans, the pro-trump activist who organized that pro-trump rally and proceeded the attack on the capital for a seat on the rnc, are we at the point where we are helping shape of these events is a selling point for a future office, if they were involved in this insurrection? >> apparently. i am in upstate new york and seneca falls and there is a candidate running against the current republican incumbent who is running to the right.

this is the world turned upside down. i don't think that anyone could have imagined that an insurrection against our capital and interrupting a free and fair election would be a badge of valor. what world are we living in? i want people to understand that they are telling us who the republican party is, now. that is why i'm not part of it anymore. this can't happen until maga is vanquished. it's a point of pride. they are not patriots, they are telling us what they want to do, believe them. >> they are not, please stick

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the future of the united states senate could hinge on western virginia. the popular republican governor secured party nomination for senate last week. the washington post writes that this victory all the guarantees that republicans will flip the seat in the state currently held by joe manchin. it leaves democrats with a lot of margin for error thanks to joe manchin deciding not to run again. this is vital given the split in senate. if democrats find a way to keep the chamber there, there's a chance they could reverse damage done by republicans. nbc news reports democrats could utilize that power to

weaken the filibuster rule, the 60 vote threshold. they could do that to codify rights that republicans have robbed from americans and based on reporting, the president said he supports the filibuster to pass various legislation. senator, let's start with you. the democrats, are the right to push for the nuclear option on the filibuster to ensure and protect some of these fundamental rights, women's rights, reproductive care, and voting rights? >> here are a couple of areas that i think make a lot of sense. they didn't do it and now the question is, will they be able to after the election? i've been following as you probably would think i would, the senate races. if we say west virginia is a lost cause, we look at the rest of our senators, they are very good candidates.

we just picked up, say, texas, florida, or missouri or nebraska , which turns out to be a close race, we could have the opportunity to reform the filibuster. i want to make a point that many people don't know. the filibuster was never in the constitution. it's an accident of history. when we were founded, there was a motion to close a debate that was given in the house. it's called the question, that's what it's called, and everyone assumes the senate would do it and they did it until 1837. then, there was some kind of a censure of president jackson and someone noticed that they could filibuster. this is not some sacred article and we often forget the bases of our freedoms and yes, for certain issues, i would definitely be on that side.

>> republicans have a favorable map when it comes to the senate , democrats have little wiggle room. if you are a democratic operative, what is the case you make against republicans in key races, perhaps the ones the senator outlined, texas,: all right having a good chance, nebraska, missouri, florida? how do democrats take that down? >> some of these states are tougher than others, but we cannot ignore the fact that since the dobbs decision, there has been a political shift in this country. women have had enough and are not going to take it anymore. the issue of abortion and reproductive rights in some of these states, particularly in places like florida or others were abortion is on the ballot, women's rights, that could have a significant impact on some of these races. that is a political dynamic that i don't think that republicans expected, when they

saw the dobbs decision come down, there was a collective freak out because they recognize there is a significant number of republicans who are a good choice and they realized, my goodness, i might have less rights than my grandmother did, people won't like this too much. i think with that issue at the forefront gives democrats an opportunity to pick up the seat somewhere that they would not have had before because the women of this country are the ones who will say democracy. >> let me follow up on that and get your thoughts on how republicans, especially senator mcconnell, who are experts at playing the long game, play out their next chapter. our federal judiciary is proof of what they been working on for a long time. what do you fear if republicans take the senate in november? what might be next after cutting voting rights back? >> i mean, if your project 2025.

if people have not read it, they should, if the 900 page manifesto that the march toward authoritarianism and an overbearing federal government that circumvents the will of the people to do the bidding of a strawman president, which is what donald trump is itching to do, fantasizing about. he tells us every time he opens his mouth at a rally. he is surrounding himself by people who understand how the government works and learning from the mistakes of his past administration on how to implement this. i fear there will be a national abortion ban and we will need an underground railroad for women if they need reproductive care in this country. we will need -- we will see civil rights roll back and we will have a supreme court that will be compromised and unethical. the supreme court will not save us, either. we are the only ones, as voters, that will save ourselves from the potential of what a donald trump presidency, plus a republican senate, could do. we will abandon our allies

overseas, they will leave nato high and dry. and, according to trump, these are strategic alliances that are critically important to democracy not only around the world but around the united states. all of these are factors when you need to consider who you are voting for and why in november, what country you want to live in. >> senator manchin was not going to oppose eliminating the filibuster. you have christian cinema from arizona became independent before dropping out. what do you make of those who blame them for this reality? is it valid, or is the politically convenient that democrats did not do that while they could have had the chance of the biden presidency and control of the house and senate? >> we couldn't do it.

i hope we all listen. she went through everything that is in stake and i do want to give you some help, because of my age. my mother was born in 1911. it was not until 1920 that women had the right to vote, so she used to take me to the voting booth with her and she let me pull, at that time, there were little levers in new york that you would pull down, you know, and she went straight democratic and said to me, don't tell daddy. i think that says a lot. my dad was an eisenhower republican, if you will. there is something in that, that women know. it's not about abortion, per se, right? it's about making our decisions for us, it's about a lack of

respect, it's forcing pregnancies, it's putting our young girls in danger and they may not say anything, but i am counting on them. >> that's right. >> both of you, thank you for joining us. we will end on that optimistic and positive note and hopefully it pans out the way we expect. next, i speak to the grandson of a hostage held in gaza when we come back. let's switch gears. t's switch from heartburn with new tums gummy bites, and love food back. (♪♪) [music playing] tiffany: my daughter is mila. she is 19 months old. she is a little ray of sunshine. one of the happiest babies you'll probably ever meet. [giggles] children with down syndrome typically

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this was the scene in tel aviv last night, thousands of protesters took to the streets, calling for the ousting of benjamin netanyahu. lards crowds -- large crowds gathered.

they been out in full force weekly for several months, accusing benjamin netanyahu bragging were out for his own political survival. potter cannon and other tactics and increasing escalation against protesters as they clashed with police. many is bailey's want fighting to stop, arguing the past cease-fire proven the most six effective. new reporting is casting doubt on the likelihood of that happening. benjamin netanyahu reportedly rejected an idf proposal to renew negotiations for a hostage deal. there was frustration over the weekend when the israeli military said it recovered the body of a fourth hostage in gaza. tensions are spilling over into the israeli government, ripping open a long festering split at the heart of the inner circle. a member of israel's work cabinet said he would leave the

government june 8th if they did not move toward an end war plan, to handle civilian affairs in gaza. this is just days after the defense minister made a similar threat, saying he would not permit any solution where the israeli military or similar governance was in the territory. joining me now is the grandson of a man who is released earlier in the war. daniel, thank you for joining us. i appreciate you making time. let's get reaction on these reports that we are hearing, that the prime minister rejected a proposal to renew negotiations on a hostage deal, the hostages families forum released a statement, calling on the israeli government to renew peace talks immediately. we know that the u.s. national security adviser, jake sullivan, is pushing for

renewed talks to try to get these hostages out. what do you want to see happen to break the stalemate? >> i think it's a very simple thing to send the negotiation team to negotiate an agreement, because there is no other way to bring back hostages. we don't see any other way to bring them back, which means the negotiation team has to go to cairo or anywhere to negotiate over the agreement, because i don't see any other way to bring back the hostages. i look forward to seeing that happening and i am pretty frustrated from everyone around the issue, from all the mediators, the u.s., the

israeli government, for all the governments around the world who talked about their first priority on bringing back civilians. everyone who has is civilian now , u.s. citizens, to try and find a creative way to bring back our loved ones. my father is already now 84 years old. he's a man of peace and a man of human rights and he would like everything for coexistence and for the house of minorities and of this man, the only great- grandfather held hostage in the word today is still in gaza after 227 days, it means no one's doing enough, and i mean no one. >> obviously, it's difficult,

given what families are experienced with their loved ones being held in gaza. i know you been demonstrating for months, camping outside the prime minister's office. i know you said you are frustrated, but has your faith in the current government changed over the course of this war you think they can no longer govern? do you want to see a new israeli government that meets your demands and expresses or shares your frustration with the negotiated release of these hostages more urgently? >> i tell you, my fear, it will take such a long time before they are able to negotiate anything. i think that that is pressure. the pressure on the option should make all these people in the work cabinet, to negotiate.

we can all understand, the end of the war, downriver of the release of the hostages. i'm calling everyone around the world, as well, to make that pressure on all the countries. it's impossible that the egyptians will take a step back. there is a conflict and now it has to be the solution. before

anything else, because the end of the war is the release of hostages, make whatever is necessary. an american citizen, with kit siegel, and it's impossible that some people in the u.s. still don't know that there are u.s. citizens that are hostages 427 days. >> i know again this is extremely frustrating and we hope that your loved ones and all your friends in the community are released as soon

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a couple weeks ago, we told you about a majority white suburb in louisiana that wanted to secede from baton rouge to form its own city. the louisiana supreme court green that the proposal would was motivated by white parents desire to have their own separate school district, and encapsulation of a growing trend in this country. a new study found that segregation between white and black students has increased 64% since 1988 across 100 of our largest school districts. researchers say this is largely due to two policy choices happening simultaneously.

courts, ending oversight of integration effort and the rise in school options for parents, both of which can be traced back to the 1990s. they found that parents, particularly white parents, enrolled their children in charter schools that are majority white. this wave of segregation is 70 years after the supreme court's landmark decision in brown versus board of education. plaintiffs and family members met with president biden to market anniversary. here is cheryl brown henderson, daughter of lead plaintiff, oliver brown. >> we are still fighting the battle over whose children do we invest in? anytime we talk about failing underfunded public schools, there's a problem. there should be no such thing. public institution is where most of us can and should be world-class. >> great to have you with us, glad to have you to talk about this. did you ever 20 would be

good with issues of segregation , the same issues that prompted your father to file this landmark case in the end? -- in 1951. >> it was an naacp case, and it was my partner, with other litigants. but yes, it was something that was anticipatory in that pushback was rather immediate and has continued to this day. any reasonable person realize that it was not over, when brown was handed down on me. people were going to continue to look for ways.

the state of virginia lead that resistance, the governor of virginia instituted policies white parents a way out of having their children attend school with african-american children, penalizing school districts that failed to comply. we've seen this movie before. the naacp legal defense fund in new york and the naacp efficacy i'm in baltimore are up to the task and i imagine that they are strategizing about how to address what is happening. >> when you see what's happening now in schools, there are concerns that there's a rise in school segregation, are seeing at the same time as this proliferation of right-wing attacks on education, on book bans, on diversity in schools. are you worried about what

young students will be missing out on, if this trend continues with the attack on education we are seeing in this country? >> 100%. the issue is, how does one develop if you are not allowed to learn of another story? if we are talking about young people that will not have that ability, that it impacts students of color, because there's a message being sent, that their stories are not significant and their people didn't contribute to this country. think about one of the governors , who actually said they would follow florida in terms of not teaching about race and slavery. any suggestion that african-

american involvement in this country, african-american history, is a design -- a divisive concept is not only shortsighted, it's not true. >> you bring up an important point and it reminds me of this essay, by nicole hannah jones, who writes about how colorblindness has been co- opted by conservative groups to stall or even reverse racial project -- progress. they think it's a post-racial society and they want to prevent desegregation by looking beyond race. what are your thoughts on the way they are going about this? >> they are being disingenuous in. not for one moment do i believe that they are speaking honestly. there is no truth to that. the propaganda that we've been

shoveled in the last decade is taking home in dangerous ways and we are led to believe it. it's a strategy, nothing more. >> in 1951, as you said, it was the naacp on behalf of plaintiffs like your fathers and others and students, but now the government in theory should be on their side to make sure these attacks don't go through. what should the federal government be doing more, differently, to make sure that what we are saying, do not succeed? >> the federal government is stepping up. i think that when you look at the mammoth job they have in

front of them, i believe they are up to the task and i know they are working on it, as we speak. we were in washington after meeting with president biden and had an opportunity to listen to policy positions. i am encouraged. i think it's entirely possible. i think that is exactly what is happening. she talked about the work they are doing, how they are identified and researching and looking in to the very thing that we are talking about. i think they are up to the task, but what we need to be mindful of is november. to make sure we keep the folks in place that are up to the task. >> thank you for joining us .

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>> that is it for us this weekend. you can follow us on x and instagram. next up the latest installment of the turning point documentary series from trevor noah. it breaks down the complex history of voting across the south and how georgia came to lead the change in this pivotal moment. it's called battle ground georgia and starts right now.