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anybody over there on your end, want to know how that suit worked out? two of you are looking at me like, -- >> you took the jacket off. >> i did take the jacket off. it all worked out. i'm wearing my regular clothing this morning. vector normal. good to see all three of you. happy mother's day and have a great weekend. we will see you next weekend. >> and by. thanks you at home for joining us. today on velshi, donald trump's former takes her turn to nemesis expected to take the stand in the criminal many trout tomorrow. the defendant/candidate is unraveling in front of us. with major russian ground assaults underway, it is time to talk about how much the future of ukraine is tied to the outcome of the presidential

election. and public school teachers did not ask for it, but they have none the last days nonetheless found themselves in the wrights world on days were on box. randi weingarten to joins me to talk about that. we know that donald trump rogue american politics. we don't have to talk about how he did it. one political scientist has a provocative theory, and he is suggesting democrats give it a try. that conversation is ahead. velshi starts now. starts now. good morning, the sunday, maine 12th. about 24 hours from now, prosecutors in donald trump's criminal trial in new york are expected to call to the stand, their star witness, michael cohen. on monday the ex-president's former longtime personal lawyer will begin testimony which is expected to take several days to complete. despite questions about his credibility, michael cohen was

once part of trump's innermost circle of confidants. for many years he was privy to closed-door meetings related to some of the most sensitive aspects of the former president's business and personal life. prosecutors will likely use his testimony to connect the dots between the tawdry tabloid aspects of this case, and the actual criminal allegations at the center of the prosecution, the false -- falsifications of razzie awards did keep stormy daniels quiet. stormy daniels, the former film actress with which trump is alleged to have an affair, took to the stand to testify about her interactions over the years with the former president, much to his obvious to -- dissatisfaction. last week, trump's attorneys filed two motions for a mistrial may days based on her testimony which about and denied by the judge. additionally at one point judge mershon called a sidebar to notify the defense that the judge could hear the former president cursing and making comments during daniels'

testimony, actions the judge said could be contemptuous. trump continue to make frustrations known during the campaign rally yesterday in new jersey. at times a bizarre affair even by trump standards. at one point he veered into a tangent and congratulated quote, the late, great hannibal lector. that is a fictional cannibal, serial killer from the silence of the lambs. like many other recent rallies, trump aired out grievances about his current legal situation as well. the gop twice impeach four times indicted presumptive present solid -- presidential nominee continued attacks against the judges and prosecutors. he repeated baseless accusations that judge mershon in new york is highly conflicted and that the case in manhattan is quote, a biden show trial. trump even got crude, marking manhattan district attorney alvin bragg and former new jersey governor chris christie

for their physical appearance. and in a couple of instances used at the -- expletives in reference to his cases. this language and behavior has grown increasingly common, trump as his legal bills and political troubles have mounted and there could be more trouble on the way. just yesterday the "new york times" and propublica reported that trump could owe the irs more than $100 million. the dispute relates to a dubious accounting method used by trump company that effectively met they took the same tax write-offs twice on one of their properties in in chicago. if he does end up having to pay, this would also add to the hundreds of millions of dollars that trump already owes in financial penalties as a result of some of his other legal case is. and it could become an item on the former president list of grievances that he rents about on saturday nights. as the "new york times"

recently pointed out trump's rhetoric and his recent rallies is unlike anything else that has come before in american politics, no major american presidential candidate has talked like trump now does at his rallies, not richard nixon, not george wallace. not even donald trump himself, end quote. the former president was already known for brash and controversial comments during his past campaigns. he significantly escalated rhetoric this time around as his legal troubles have piled up. trump's promise to exact retribution and revenge upon a possible return to the white house, is not normal political speech either. and yet, it's become the central tenet of the third presidential bid. joining me, steve bennett, producer for the rachel maddow show and political contributor. also author of the book and pastors, how republicans quit governing and these american politics. also with us, molly john asked, for vanity fair, host of the fast politics podcast and msnbc

political analyst. good morning to both of you. i'm trying to figure out, because we have always tried to figure out, he steps away from normalcy, he goes further than anyone else does and we wonder what that is supposed to mean. some are numb to it. it is donald trump doing what donald trump does. is there anything about the way he talks, the physical marking, the crudeness, the language he uses about immigrants, the discussion about bloodbaths, does any of this trouble you more than normal, or are you troubled the same? >> the scariest part of donald trump's rhetoric now is he wants to root out enemies that are domestic. along time he focused on lies about people, from mexico and lies about immigrants and immigrant children. by the way he did a long tangent last night about immigrant children not speaking english. while he was slurring, which is both ironic and also awful.

but the thing that strikes me as the scariest, is the part of his plan where he's going to go after domestic enemies. that is totally new and reminds me of very scary mccarthy staff. in the '50s. it could really open the door to some terrifying stuff for all of us. >> you said that you and steve -- let's talk about some of the language as the results to immigrants. just this week, i'm going to talk to a member of congress, but democrats helped keep mike johnson in his spots. to avoid sort of a chaos in congress and mike johnson immediately started talking about a bill to make it illegal for undocumented immigrants to vote prior to citizenship. i don't know about you steve, but i always assumed it was illegal for undocumented immigrants that are not citizens of this country to vote the red meat continues all the way down to mike johnson,

some democrats just saved. >> and you notice when he said his remarks on capitol hill, that in his mind, intuitively, he knows there are not illegal immigrants voting in elections, intuitively. we should pay attention to what actually happens and data, all the resources and intuitively understand that talking points are true, which is absurd. the same way donald trump says when it comes to election results we should follow our hearts. not the results, just believe what we want to believe. stephen colbert's old care, -- we pay attention to what we want to believe to be true and now we have comments that of a comedic character we have the speaker of the house, presumptive republic all nominee presenting these tactics to the public as if they are legitimate. >> molly, the trump trial last

week was compelling. stormy daniels with understand. she made for a compelling and relatively relaxed seeming witness in that kind of environment because she has been one of those people who have been subject to scorn and derision by donald trump. but if you liked what you saw last week, this week is going to be much hotter. michael cohen, who's now, he was fixer and now arch nemesis, is set to testify for several days beginning tomorrow. this is going to get very hot because trump's folks are all there to discredit michael cohen, to say he's an admitted liar. the prosecution has to prove that whatever you think of michael cohen, he's got literally receipts. >> one of the things they have done, that i think is very smart in this trial is they started the trial with david pecker. and david pecker did not have an ax to grind on donald trump. is good friends with donald trump and he really set the table for this case. he showed that this was a catch and kill, that this was something they did, and he even

knew it was finance violation because he talked to his in- house lawyer and it was just one of these really good examples of how donald trump has emotional ways of dealing with this trial, candidate trump, and defendant trump are often at odds. so what you saw with pecker , his people did not go hard on pecker because he is his friend. pecker had him a lot of the facts that you write so now we had stormy daniels last week, stormy daniels again did not -- it didn't matter if there was sex. that was not part of the case. because trump's people went so hard on this your lying thing, it ended up being part of the case and i think that was really unhelpful for trump, too. for me, as a feminist, what made me most upset about the stormy daniels situation is that they were so hard on her and in a really kind of misogynistic way.

now we have michael cohen, again, this case has gone worse for trump because trump has been involved in sort of pushing his lawyers to do his bidding. i think that is a very likely scenario. >> which by the way is how it goes in the supreme court. it is one of the situations where it is like are the lawyers in charge of this or are they trying to figure out ways to get donald trump's not legal arguments into a legal setting. this trial comes at a time when polling does indicate that the selection is very close. some people pay much more attention to actual polls than i do. i pay attention to trend lines. more than the actual pool. but 538 at the beginning of may said fewer than one percentage point separated right in and trump. at the same time years ago, biden was up's points. what is your take away from the world we are in, the world donald trump is in, and the upcoming election?

>> there's good news and bad news no matter what your perspective. if you are looking at this from the perspective of somebody wants to see president biden win and donald trump lose, you can take solace in the fact that polls are incredibly steady for months. donald trump has a narrow lead, possibly less than one percentage point when you average them together and with six months to go, it is easy to imagine that the incumbent president is able to undercut them -- overcome that margin. we are talking about half a percentage point. but compared to four years ago the mutt -- the picture is much brighter for republican -- every day throughout all of 2020, that we are not seeing right now and from the perspective of a democrat who wants to see biden win and trump lose, it tells us that the party has a lot of work to do between now and november and if you are republican you have reason to believe you're in a better position but at the same time the threat remains. >> molly, i want to go back to

what you said about stormy daniels and the misogyny. it was very obvious, they do what people call shaming. -- it did serve to do, including the part in which stormy daniels brought up the discussion about sex, that didn't as you say need to be part of the trial, is that it reminds people about who donald trump is. on the most treatable side you could say he's a womanizer, he's also been somebody who has been credibly convicted of sexual assault. so that part of the story remains there, for women who i think have a lot to think about in the selection, particularly with the fact that in half of the country, reproductive rights are gone. >> yeah, it was a stark moment, i thought when we saw her up on the stand and we heard her talk about the way she retells the story, it is not, it does not sound -- it is just a very dark kind of story, and in the end

she says i took responsibility for this, and what happened is on me. but to have this lawyer on cross saying, since you are a star, doesn't he have the right to do whatever he wants, i'm sorry, but as a woman, and as a feminist, and as a mother, and her daughter, it was just pretty horrific to see and the fact that trump, the presidential nominee is behind this, and we know he is because he has that kind of relationship with his lawyers, is in my mind that he dark. >> and that will be a reminder to everybody about the way of these things. thank you both, it is fantastic to see you. molly, extra tanks you, we got to spend extra time on friday night in york. thank you for that. steve bannon is clinical contributor and author of the imposters, how republicans quit governing and seized american politics.

molly jong-fast as an msnbc political analyst. still ahead, lessons from work. the white house and the world, the former pro sex terry and msnbc host jen psaki joins me to discuss her brand-new book and more, plus the white house announced the $400 million aid package for ukraine but is it enough to counter russia's new and expanding ground offensive near kharkiv. later, why donald trump is still getting his message across to voters despite spending the last few weeks on trial and off the trail. and how democrats can counter. .

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right now, in gaza thousands are attempting to evacuate rafah head of israel's planned military incursion. during a press conference today and idf spokesperson said, they are continuing their quote, precise operations, and quote against thomas in rafah and

they say they have evacuated eastern third of the city. remember, this is a city that is as heavily populated as it is right now because everybody was told to evacuate to the city. the international community is anxiously waiting to see what happens next, repeated warnings from the u.s. appear to be falling on deaf ears as netanyahu plans to move ahead with a full-scale invasion. joining me from cairo is nbc's international correspondent. good to see you, thank you for being with us. here's the interesting part about this. rafah seems to be a bargaining chip. the idea is that we know how destructive it will be. we're hearing that already, 300,000 people are attempting to evacuate the safe part of rafah. but the point is, the administration says if you go to rafah you will face consequences and the israelis are saying, we are going into rafah. if we don't get a deal from hamas. so where does this leave us?

>> reporter: it leaves us in a situation where civilians, as you mentioned, are panicking, and the southern part of the gaza strip were diplomatic -- diplomatically it does not appear any cease-fire negotiation is close to yielding any results. there's been intense fighting an airstrike to the north and south and people are fleeing with the israeli military having to fight hamas in areas that previously had cleared. and where there was near total destruction of residential buildings and of the structure. this is raising alarms here when it comes to perhaps the israeli military has engulfed himself in gaza. we heard from antony blinken, secretary of states speaking on meet the press saying there are areas of data that had been previously cleared for the idf is having to fight again. he said in an interview that it appears israeli is lacking a strategy that would return --.

another interesting thing that the u.s. has not been presented with any kind of plan that would reassure them that civilians are protected, if and when, we should say if, not when the idf decides to go into rafah full-scale. but i'm in egypt and what is interesting today is that as viewers and you know very well, egypt and israel have a peace treaty, they have for decades. despite that egypt says it is joining south africa in its genocide petition at the world court following israel's rafah offensive. it is really upset with israel because it considers this to be completely over-the-top. it says it is refusing to cooperate with israel and manning the rafah crossing. essentially not wanting to operate/collaborate with the israeli forces on the ground. so a lot is going on, really.

but again, it is important to reiterate and underline how much the civilians are panicking, and in distress. they don't know where to go at this stage. >> it is a discussion for another time between us, but what most people may not know is that there is no love lost between egypt and hamas. there almost sworn enemies. they don't like each other so for egypt to get involved in something like this on behalf of civilians, really underscores the point that the civilians are the question. i don't think there are a lot of people, as many who object to what israel feels like it wants to do in its battle with hamas. but the catastrophe in this war has been the civilians. thank you for underscoring that point. by the way, she's the author of an important book if you have not read it, you should. you don't look arab and other tales of on belonging. after the break, a new front in ukraine, -- captured five villages in kharkiv region. and

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kharkiv has yet to fall fully to russia and currently remains in ukrainian control. in wild days ago the by the initiation announced another round of $400 million in military assistance for ukraine, which includes no new capabilities but does include much-needed patriot missiles, highmark systems and ammo, bradley fighting vehicles, stinger missiles and more. the second round of eight cents congress passed and president biden signed the long-delayed and desperately needed $60 billion aid package for ukraine. it took so long to get through congress largely because ray time, donald trump was actively campaigning against it. remy is eugene vindman, for me -- former army colonel who serving on the national security council when he was fired by donald trump along with his twin brother alexander, for raising concerns about trump's dealings with ukraine. good to see you, thank you for being with us. let's start with the u.s. 82

ukraine it took so long to get through congress. because of donald trump's weird influence over republicans in congress. the things have changed so much in congress. republicans would reliably always be able to be trusted on the matter of funding and american allies against russia as an adversary, simply pixelated. >> first, great to be back with you, and let me, before we get to this very important serious topic, let me wish happy mother's day to the mothers out there, especially my wife, and my stepmom who raised us from a very young age. ukraine remains the most acute international, national security issue. what we have seen in the last couple of days, this renewed initiative in kharkiv, is serious. ukrainians have taken it

seriously. it is an area that i have been to a few times. i actually toured the region with the commandant, one star ukrainian brigadier general that goes by the callsign myself. we were within the 10 miles of the russian border. so i have seen the area this fighting is taking place. it is serious. it is meant to relieve pressure on other parts of the battlefield, to siphon ukrainian reserves and resources. so the russians can take advantage of other parts of the battlefield, like in the south, southeast, where they have had breakthroughs in recent months. it is significant, but it is only minimally significant, tactical, we will see how the situation placed. i think the best thing we can do in the united states is to continue to provide aid. i think the first priority remains the air defense and to protect the national infrastructure assets. but very quickly, thereafter it is artillery and building

capacity and training for ukrainians. this year was always going to be the year where the ukrainians are on the defensive, they are building capacity in order to go on the offensive next year. they need to train, they need to equip and they need to rebuild their forces in order to take the territory next year. >> what you are right to point out that the attention here, almost needs to be lost on the battlefield and more about what we are doing in the united states. on yesterday so i spoke to the atlantic's and appelbaum about how congressional republicans are repeating pro-russian disinformation. the stuff marjorie taylor greene says is russian influenced disinformation. which affects americans standing on the world stage, it hampers our fight for democracy here in america. it is not just about weakening the fact we support ukraine, it is about that we are listening to and parroting things that are said by some of the world's leading authoritarians in our congress. >> you're 100% write. this comes from the

standardbearer of the republican party which is donald trump. he may not be in office but he will yield such influence over the republican party, the senate and the house, that there are four leaders and vladimir putin taking no and he's got a shot of becoming the next president again and that is why this next election is so crucial, so critical, that we bring in folks, i'm running for congress in virginia, that will fight back to extremism, that will hold donald trump accountable if the unimaginable in my mind happens and he is re- elected as president, i don't think that will happen at this point. i think american people will be engaged in the binary choice between donald trump and joe biden. and by the time the election rolls around, he will be a convicted criminal, likely. right now he's an accused criminal and has got many other indictments. so defeating this isolationist,

extremist street up and down the ballot is critically important. folks like marjorie taylor rain are standardbearers in congress, but we also have issues in virginia and this is a topic, really important to voters in the seventh district. i was knocking on doors yesterday and had voters. we had four military installations that are in or immediately adjacent to our district and voters are very concerned about national security, but what is going on in the world. many military veterans, many government employers, many contractors. this particular region is engaged with this topic. >> and if you are connected in any way to the military, then the idea that we have potential president who's got very different views about how the world is going to unfold, affects you and your family directly. colonel, good to see you. thank you for being with us. former army colonel and deputy legal adviser to the national security council eugene

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mostly white suburban town of southlake, texas was forced to confront racism in the community. a viral video of a group of white teenagers from the local high school chanting the inward at a party is what thrust the problem into public view. it got worse from there. as it happened there was a long history of racist language directed at black students in southlake. black parents and students shared more stories and the full picture began to take shape. after nearly two years of listening sessions and soul- searching on the part of district officials, the school board rolled out a plan for diversity training and a code of conduct for students that prohibited discrimination. but then came the backlash. a group of mostly white parents fought the new measures. they packed school board members -- meetings and railed against leftist indoctrination of southlake's children. but the students if all targeted in southlake did not give up and to just this week, four of them may be seeing the start of accountability. nbc's antonio hilton has a story. >> reporter: for over three years, nbc news investigated the picturesque independent school district where some students told us about a culture of racist and homophobic bullying. >> what happened to blackheads when they go through school systems where they don't feel entirely at home? >> i think it strips them of their identity and i think that they leave a shell of the

person they once were. >> reporter: documents reviewed by nbc news showed this week, the department of education notified southlake's schools that it intends to negotiate with the district over two students civil-rights complaints. we spoke with a lawyer for the student's. >> when the department of education's office of civil rights notified the district they were being invited to negotiate, the resolution of the complaint it means that they have made a formal finding that the school district violated those civil rights. >> reporter: christian was 12 years old and just left when we met him in 2022. >> what were kids think? >> they were using -- gay flurries , being rude to me. >> reporter: southlake was to thrust into the national spotlight with a video of students chanting the inward. a group of conservative residents defeated a proposed diversity and inclusion plan. >> by the time my youngest was in ninth grade, he was getting called the inward pretty regularly. >> reporter: mom, angela jones filed one of the complaints.

>> i knew that my children's solar rights had been violated, but to have the department of education come out and say that they agree, that meant the world to me. >> reporter: southlake's carroll school district today did not respond to a request for comment but in august of 2021 we sat down with superintendent wayne ledbetter. >> is the racism in southlake and carol isd? >> let me think about that question. i'm going to stop there. i think it goes back to people understanding each other. almost from an empathy standpoint and being able to understand varying perspectives and differences. >> reporter: angela jones the children have already left but she believes she has an obligation to the students still there. >> i can't sit here and let those children face the exact same thing my children face. that is not being a good citizen.

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a few months ago, a friend of mine, of the show, pulled me aside after a particularly emotional meeting of the velshi book club and suggested we not refer to book banning as a culture war. their point with this. teachers and librarians are unwittingly at the center of this. they are not soldiers, there have classrooms and libraries that are not battlefields.'s books should be assessable to any student wants to read, period. however, you want to describe what is happening in our schools and libraries across the country, one thing is abundantly clear. it is children, who are ultimately paying the price. is children who will not see themselves reflected in the

heat you give, who don't have the opportunity to decide if they love or hate shakespeare, will be able to connect easily with her dominican classmates after reading american street. access to books, particularly at schools and libraries, is an issue for children across this country. some students can get their hands on books, whether they are banned or not. the american federations of teachers representing 1.7 million teachers, paraprofessionals and school personnel found a way to help. they're putting books directly into the hands of young readers, who read them the most. yesterday they hosted five events in texas, illinois, ohio, florida, and new york city to promote the city and provide books to any child or young reader who attended. the goal was to quote, ensure any child, regardless of geography or demography, can have a bookshelf to call their own. by stacking their personal

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i'm joined by randi weingarten, a labor leader and attorney and educator and president of the american federation of teachers which represents 1.7 million teachers, paraprofessionals , and school personnel. it is great to see you again. thank you for talking to me this morning. let's talk about the initiative. i think it is an interesting point. there is this war, a battle going on between people about books. but in the end, the collateral damage is kids who don't get to read books. the head of the american library association said to me, i said every time we have a banned book author run, the sales of the book goes up and she said, but the kids don't get to read it. the kids don't get to read at school. the teachers don't get to give them those folks. the librarians don't get to assign the box. >> first off, it is great to see you and also, to say happy

mother's day to all the moms and grandmas in the country. we certainly saw a lot of them yesterday in our events. but it is true. that i will never forget some conversations i've had with mom to say, wait a second, every time you ban a book, you are taking control over what my child reads from me, by not having a book in the library. and essentially, then saying, that it is only wealthy parents who actually get some access to box. that the parents whose kids may never have a classroom library or home library at home, don't ever have access to it. and so, part of what we have tried to do, about 10 years ago, is with this entity called first book and said, how do we get books into the hands of kids , who may not have access to them and have them at home, and

have them as classroom libraries. and one thing has led to another, and frankly the last two years, we have actually given out more books. each of the last two years we have given out over 1 million, 1,000,000 1/2 books, because we know as others are banning books, if you really believe in reading and in literacy, then we need to make sure that kids see themselves in books and have books at home and families have books at home so that kids can actually have that kind of joy and confidence that comes from having a physical copy of a book. >> you studied this a long time and i have seen and read studies on it. but can you help our viewer understand? i think we understand this anyway but what is the distinction about the educational outcomes for kids who grow up surrounded by books in their actual home. >> so there is a lot of

studies, from early childhood. many of which, during the obama administration as people were trying to get early childhood settings, set up, people heard this. they basically, that more kids are read to at home, and it doesn't matter what language. but the more they are read to at home, they understand words and put words together, the better off they do. i think it is essentially, if you are read to, basically every night, or to a certain number of words, you will be successful in close. i don't have the exact figures. >> but there is studied correlation. >> a total correlation. the other correlation is this. that we know that, if kids can read with proficiency by third grade, that is one of the biggest criteria, non-poverty

criteria in terms of success for school. when kids have books at home, then families have books at home and that means that, the kids can be read to, parents can read to them, the kids can discuss books with families. we've made these, the work we have done, we have 700 chapters who have done these reading opens the world events on a saturday or sunday or a community reading events. after-school. we know that if we bring families together, this becomes a family enterprise, not just a family enterprise. when you say we have given out 10 million books, it is to spark the level of learning. let's also say that we have to teach kids how to read, too. so you have the tools of reading that we are doing as well. but when a kid sees, that

amanda gorman book, that we give out, when a kid sees that -- themselves in amanda gorman, when they see themselves and see her, there is a connection. there was a family that came up to me yesterday. at the event in new york. and said, you have a book about culture here and i've been looking for a book like this for a long time. thank you. and that is what it means, to have books that kids see themselves in. >> one of the things that i think people enjoy about the show is that we give great detail about whether the guest is and what they have written and what they said. i have to do that about you. in 2022, the former secretary of state mike pompeo said in an interview on the new sites, i'm

quoting, the most dangerous person in the world is randi weingarten. is not a close call. if you ask who is the most likely to take this republic down, it would be the teachers unions and the filth that they are teaching our kids and the fact they don't know math and reading or writing. takedown the republic, randi weingarten. i know you are effective. that is something. >> i do not understand why they are afraid of knowledge or why they are afraid of kids critically thinking, or sparking imagination. for the life of me. this is, you and i have had these conversations for a long time. i am a history teacher by training, and a lawyer by training. but when you look at, or listen to an apple, tim snyder, they will tell you, what authoritarians do. authoritarians do two things. they basically create apathy and chaos, where they