columbia senior alexis had this to say about her class of 2024. >> i think will be remembered as an interesting class at columbia. >> that's for sure. >> we came in a hard time and left in a hard time. hopefully, this has made us more thoughtful and empathetic. i'm hopeful we can do great things in the world after all of this. >> more thoughtful and empathetic people doing great things in the world? sounds like a good thing to me. congratulations on your congratulate -- graduation. >> i wish you a good night. from all the colleagues across the network of nbc news, have a great night. t.

today was day 12 of trump's criminal trial and it started with another hearing on his repeated and pretty flagrant at times violations of his gag order which is put in place because he cannot seem to help himself from attacking the judge, the jury, are potential witnesses. to date judge merchan city violated the order for the 10th time. for comments he made when he attacked the integrity of the jury that will determine his fate. the judge found trump in contempt of court and fined the ex-president another $1000 bringing the fines up to 10 grand. judge merchan said he was prepared to go farther. he warmed of donald trump does not stop violating the order, he would be left with no choice but to consider jail time. he made it clear he does not take the threat lightly calling it a last resort. he also said, quote, mr. trump,

it's important to understand that the last thing i want to do is put you in jail. you are the former president of the united states and possibly the next president as well. despite that, you may be sitting at home thinking, finally, someone will put this guy in jail. you would not be alone feeling that way. here is the thing. it may be what trump wants. his whole message is he is the victim. he is aggrieved in the victim of a two-tiered system of justice. his campaign's fundraising of the possibility that he could be put in jail. in his mind, that would only keep him able to make the argument he's a victim of the system. for all of trump's whining about a so-called rigged system against him, it's worth remembering that if he was any other criminal defendant who willfully violated an order from the judge 10 times, they would be sitting on a cell on rikers island. he is not. after the hearing, we heard testimony from a man named jeffrey mcconney. a long time comptroller of the

trump organization, serving under the now incarcerated chief financial officer allen weisselberg. while the testimony may not have been quite as dramatic as some we have seen in recent days, it cut to the heart of what the case is about. the legal case. donald trump is not on trial for allegedly having an affair with a pornography store. he is on trial for falsifying business records to cover up the $130,000 in hush money he paid her in order to prevent the news from getting out to the public in the weeks before an election. mcconney later how they happen. the biggest question the defense raised in the cases, if michael cohen paid stormy daniels 130 grand to cover up the affair with trump, why was cohen reimbursed $400,000 in return? thanks to financial documents presented as evidence today, we learned how that came to be the

case. a quick word of advice would be felons, hopefully you're not watching, but if you are, if you're planning on taking part in a criminal conspiracy, i would suggest not taking handwritten notes outlining the entire plan but that seems to be what happened here. first up is this document. a bank statement for the $130,000 payment which was annotated by allen weisselberg. a man who is clearly not a mastermind since he sitting in jail as we speak. according to the notes, another $50,000 was added onto for repayments to accompany for tech services. that total was grossed up. a practice in which the trump organization overpaid cohen to cover his tax liabilities. another 60 was added on top as a bonus, apparently for a job well done for facilitating the payments. that brings us to 420,000 which was repaid to michael cohen and installments of $35,000 over the course of a year. reimbursements that on paper claim to be a legal retainer.

good job buying a negative story that could have -- the election. for good measure, we have a separate document. this time written by mcconney in which he does the same math on the official trump letterhead, on the trump letterhead. it seems often times you simply cannot make this up. we have a number of email chains showing most of the reimbursement checks for cohen were sent directly to the white house so trump could sign them personally. all of this we learned before election day. just before lunch. after the break, we heard from a woman named deborah tarasoff or worked in the accounting department entered mcconney and allen weisselberg. she labeled them as legal expenses and that was one day of testimony. there's more to come in the case which prosecutors say they are halfway finished, at least for their part.

with michael cohen and stormy daniels yet to testify, it's going to be an interesting couple of weeks. the former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york relet hype profile prosecution of white collar criminals, and he joins me now. i am not a lawyer. i tried to summarize what we learned today. i talked to a lot of smart ones. i tried to summarize what we learned today. did i get anything wrong? >> it was a pretty good summary. what you heard today was testimony that was not so dramatic. not as salacious as some we have heard before. we are certain to here in coming days, but it goes to the core the basic criminal charge which is falsification of business records. i think, based on what happened today, and how uninspiring the cross-examination was because the documents largely speak for themselves, the prosecution has proven the basic case which is falsification of business records. people can argue that the crime

of the century, it's a misdemeanor. we can argue and see how the evidence comes in with respect to the next phase which is whether it could be accelerated into a felony if it was done for the purposes of concealing or furthering another crime. election law crime or tax crime. the fundamental case, the elements of which were laid out in crystallize form today in court, think were made out. you have the representation that these things were legal fees based on a retainer and legal services. you do not have documentation, no detailed business records, as we were saying before we started recording, the existence of any practicing lawyer, and i am a practicing lawyer is to do detailed records of how you spend your time and why the client needs to pay you what you are charging. >> there is no detail of that.

>> every lawyer in america has to do that. i've never worked on a matter where there was not a formalized agreement as to what you can pay for and why. you have none of that here. you have, as you mentioned, michael cohen was not just paid for the reimbursement. lawyers we have photocopying fees and binding fees and other fees we have to reimburse for. we do not get paid double for that. >> which is his tax rate. >> michael cohen took a hit for the donald trump fraud team and paid out of his own money based on a home-equity line of credit money. the hush money for this person. that was after taxes. to make him whole, he had to be paid not just the reimbursement amount but am amount that was pre-taxed, would put them in the same position he was in otherwise. >> that's not how it goes. that's important to remember. what struck me is the allen weisselberg.

they wrote out how the reimbursement would work which presumably for the prosecution is pretty dampening. >> its strong. at some point, we will get into the question of how formidable is the testimony of michael cohen going to be? i think the prosecution has done a great job of laying the foundation of cooperation before michael cohen's testimony. he will come on the stan essay was not legal fees or a retainer. it was not legal services before this other purpose which prosecution alleges was illegal. rather than cooperating after the fact, they cooperated before the fact. is you when i and others have been talking about for months now, michael cohen has baggage. every witness who is testified to knows michael cohen has asked the question, has set the bar so low for michael cohen, i don't know he has to do as much

as we have anticipated he needs to do. >> let me ask about the gag order. the judge threatened, if he violates his, he could put him in jail. what does that look like? it could be in our in jail? something else? >> it could run the gamut. it's an interesting thing. the statutory basis in new york, the law is you can fine for $1000 per violation. it might strike some aside. it strikes me as odd but were not in the position to change the lot them,. the next step is not a 2000 or $5000 fine, it does separate duration from your liberty for up to 30 days. the judge is between a rock and a hard place. what you read before was absolutely stunning. you have a sitting judge who people understand that the judge in his position doesn't

want to put donald trump in jail for a period of time. he doesn't want to be in the position but he said it. he was honest about it and forthright about it which to me means he is serious. >> if you are the judge, if he sent to jail for an hour, does he care? he may get something out of that. he may want that. >> we are in unchartered territory. we've never had a former president who is a right to secret service protection and detail for the duration of his life with the president or not and in that circumstance, nobody, the judge least of all, wants to figure out how we do with that. i don't really know. i never have quibbles with you but i have one. >> you can quibble any time. >> trump psychology question. notwithstanding his bravado and his comparisons of himself to nelson mandela, he does not want to spend the night in prison. it's uncomfortable.

there's problems he would face personally and otherwise and aesthetically and grooming wise that i don't think he wants to get into. he likes to talk a good game and say i will be a martyr, but on the think he wants to go. >> he may want to go for an hour. he has been fundraising. let me ask. they resume the trial tomorrow. there are big witnesses who we have not heard from yet. michael cohen is a big one. who else are you watching for? >> stormy daniels testimony will be interesting. i will say and time at risk of being disabuse, the most important testimony has taken place. with these witnesses, david pecker -- >> was david pecker the most important one? >> in some ways yes. he told the story of how all these machinations were important to and relevant to

and for the purpose of winning the election. you have holes here. hope hicks testified in part. she got some hits from the defense. saying part of the reason donald trump engaged in the conduct was he wanted to spare his wife humiliation. that doesn't help to prove the prosecution's case but you have them talking about the money, the documents, talking about the purpose of the documents, the lack of documentation of this being a retainer and legal fees. the overwhelming amount of evidence which is more play than documentary evidence but overwhelming evidence that this was done close in time to the election because donald trump cared about the election more than anything else and that's why he engaged in this behavior. the other it witnesses will be interesting and across from a lawyerly perspective will be fastening and popcorn eating event. i don't know it will be as

important given the testimony this taken place so far. >> preet, always interesting talking to you. coming up, if these walls could talk. i will explain what the testimony revealed what was happening inside the white house as donald trump was signing the checks at the heart of the case. claire mccaskill joins me in 60 seconds. seconds.

i think it's fair to say that there's no place more symbolic of the dignity and prestige of the presidency than the oval office. it is where franklin roosevelt signed the declaration of war after pearl harbor. where john f. kennedy directed u.s. response to the missile crisis. is where george bush addressed a grieving nation on the night of 9/11. it's were donald trump began and alyssa scheme to repay the hush money used to silence a porn star.

in a meeting with michael cohen in 2017, trump confirmed he would reimburse them by check on a monthly basis. as the trump organization former comptroller testified today, each check was drawn from trump's personal account which is not normal. then, quote, we had to get it down to the white house for the president to sign it. throughout the year of 2017, trump was managing this cover- up, signing these checks while juggling his official responsibilities as president. it's a bizarre juxtaposition. one of the checks was dated september 12. a day trump was hosting the prime minister of malaysia at the white house. another is dated the same day trump spoke with putin by phone discussing syria and north korea. one was from a day when he was abroad, meeting with israeli prime minister netanyahu in israel. another from the day trump decided he would move the american embassy in israel to

jerusalem. i work for two presents another of them were juggling responsibilities of that office with the cover-up of illicit payments to a porn star. trump was. the trial has already revealed so much about that alleged criminal scheme. it's also revealing so much about the kind of president trump was and the kind he would be if he returned to the oval office. joining his former democratic senator claire mccaskill. thank you for taking the time. we were looking up the dates and i was thinking to myself, like so many moments, we need to remind people this is not normal. you are former senator and former prosecutor. you were in the oval office. talk what you have heard about what he was doing from the oval office while managing the presidency. how crazy is this to you? >> this goes under the categories we are too numb. we have taken in so much of not normal that all of a sudden we are focused as we should be is how he abused the solemnity of that office.

if somebody -- when i would have time with my friend, the former president obama, we would go back into the dining room are sometimes into his smaller office if we were going to talk casually. there is such respect around the oval office. it was a symbol. it was a symbol. if i would've mentioned to president obama, imagined they will have an episode where the president is signing checks to pay off a lawyer who gave hush money to a porn star, you know what president obama would've said? your imagination has gone crazy. that would never happen in the united states of america. i want to talk about january 11, 2017. do you remember what happened that day? what happened as trump had a press conference with props.

he had files. had a lawyer from the trump office along with his kids. it was to unveil the american people how he was knocked going to be involved in his business. the paperwork and the files supposedly demonstrated that he was going to hand over everything to his sons and allen weisselberg. he was not going to have any executive decisions. this would be taken over by someone as. now we find out a mere few months later that he was signing every check over $10,000. some of them were to pay off a lawyer who was covering up a porn star affair who to get in the oval office. >> are reminding me. i worked for two presidents, as you know, and for both of these presidents, even if they were making political calls a political price calls, they would go to the residents across the other side of the building out of respect for the oval office. that's important for people to remember.

let me ask you about this case. one of the things i have been surprised by is the storytelling from the prosecutors. it has told me and told the public a lot about what trump is capable of and his character. there is no cameras in there so it's a challenge. you are a astute political mind. what is your take of the storytelling and what impact, if any, it could have about people's understanding of the case and who trump is? >> done a good job with the narrative. explaining why paying off a porn star is not the issue. the issue is a simple straightforward new york statute that you cannot lie in business records. i overheard your conversation with preet who is a great lawyer and spent a lot of time in criminal court room as have i. the star witnesses in the case are not the interesting ones. it's the documents. the documents are the star witnesses. and a big one today where you

have notations that actually tie back to the president all of this about hiding it. that is what this case is about. false business records. it seems to me that set the table with reverting testimony about paying off stars and playing of playboy bunnies but they will bring this home on the strength of these documents because they are going to show that michael cohen is finally telling the truth. >> falsifying business records is what this is about. thank you for taking the time and joining me. lara trump and the rnc are planting the seeds of doubt around the november election and it's time to start paying attention. the latest scheme and much more after a quick break.

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i want to take you back to election night 2020 when donald trump walked out to the cameras and said this. >> if you count the legal votes, i easily win. if you count the illegal votes, they can try to steal the election from us. if you count the votes it came in late, we are looking at them strongly, but a lot about came in late. >> the votes that came in late.

to be very clear, votes the came in late with legitimate ballots postmarked by election day but they happen to arrive days later and polling stations across the country. there was nothing nefarious. trump knew they favor joe biden mostly because he spent the last few months railing against mail-in voting. now, four years later the rnc is picking up her trump left off. >> you cannot have ballots counted after elections are over. right now, that is one of the many lawsuits we have out across this country. >> rnc cochaired trump daughter- in-law juan in the same, lara trump was talking about a lawsuit filed in nevada on friday asking the state to stop counting ballots received after election day. lots of states allow mail-in ballots postmarked by election day to be counted after receipt within a certain amount of time. it's a normal legal part of the process. we all know what the goal of

the lawsuit is. once again, plant the seeds of doubt. here is a prediction. it donald trump win it, will never hear about this again. if he does not, he will say another election was rigged in favor of democrats. in part because of the legitimate ballots postmarked on election day. call it what you want, voter intimidation, voter suppression, but once again, trump and his acolytes are telegraphing exactly what they're going to do, and we should listen. joining ms. sherrilyn ifill, former president of the naacp defense fund and civil rights professor at howard university and a visiting professor at harvard law school. you bring me down to earth. you disagree with me when i'm wrong which i always welcome. i laid out what i think is happening but i do not want to exaggerate. i would like your take on lara trump's comments in the lawsuit and what is there and that game here? >> thank you. let me correct you. you will hear about this weather trump wins or loses. even when he won in 2016, he insisted that the election was

rigged and illegal votes had been cast in california and new hampshire and created election integrity commission he finally had to disband. we will hear about this no matter what because that's what trump is. it is going to get stupider as we go forward. i rarely use that word but i mean it in the sense that these are not people who are experienced a really know anything about the way our democracy works. they see a scandal and a conspiracy behind every rule they did not know about or do not understand. when you put someone who is unqualified, your daughter-in- law, and the position of rnc chair, you'll get a willingness to go on i love them with a lot of foolishness. 22 states allow you to cast absentee ballot and even if it comes in to the board of elections after election day, that ballot is valid so long as

it is postmarked by election day. in maryland, we don't even start counting absentee ballots until the thursday after the tuesday election. this is not something scandalous. this is not a case that trump will win. this is precisely designed to give them something to hang their hat on so they can file ridiculous lawsuits after the election. i have to say something else that's important. list we think it's just about trump. a few people remember that 2018 was the first year in 30 years that we held a presidential election -- election in the country, midterm election, without the rnc under a consent decree. a consent decree that stemmed from their voter suppression activities targeted at black

voters in the 1980s. we have conveniently forgotten that even pre-trump the rnc was involved in these shenanigans. i do not want to lay it all at the feet of trump. it is uninformed but we should remember that the former rnc chair ronna mcdaniel was on the phone with trump trying to intimidate folks or at least allegedly trying to intimidate folks in michigan from receiving the electors, the appropriate electors. this is part of why it's important for people to understand we don't just have a donald trump problem. we have a party that has acquiesced to its worst impulses, impulses that it had and trump took advantage of and has broadened and deepened. we have to be clear about this. this is nothing. it is designed to create an issue that his followers who also understandably do not know

what election law practices are, can say is something to point to to suggest there's something illegal or irregular happening and ballot counting. >> when there is not, and many rely on mail-in ballots including 200,000 veterans who live in nevada. i want to ask you, do not want to be so dark and negative, but it shows a republican party, what you said, it's not just trump. there's this effort that predates him and continues beyond him. how should pro-democracy forces out there fight back against this thing? what should people be doing? >> for those or never trumper's, my friends who have realized that trump is a unique danger, i would love it if they came clean about the ways in which they conducted the activities and platforms and the issues that the party was involved in in ways that left their party vulnerable to the kind of attack that trump

represents. the issue of voter suppression is one of them. by the way, the rnc is a defendant with trump in the suit filed by the legal defense fund at the end of 2020, november, december 2020, for a conspiracy to suppress the votes of black voters. this is part of the problem is that trump cannot be eradicated on this we all begin to recognize the ways in which the democratic institutions left themselves honorable to his exploitation. i say this to the legal profession. i say it to the journalism profession. i would say to our political parties. all of these institutions left themselves vulnerable to be taken advantage of. the way we fight back is to show we are on's brokers, those of us who claim to be pro- democracy.

it's not that we want our folks to have power. we want there to be real integrity in the political process and the democratic institution. that is what voters are waiting to hear. that's how we fight back. you call that out and call it what it is. try to get the information is so voters will not be led down the primrose path by trump's lies. it's a puffer journalist to see what you are saying. this is the practice of 22 states. why is trump suing nevada not maryland? it's gamesmanship. it's important that people get on it quickly as soon as the seed is thrown on the graham everett has a chance to dig in and sprout. >> couldn't agree more. we have to call it out because he is telling us what he wants to do. sherrilyn ifill, i always enjoy talking to you. coming up, the apprentice meets -- all the things. i will explain after a quick break. break.

check given donald trump's career and reality tv, we remember that, it's no surprise he's treating his potential vice presidential running mate says if the contestants on the print and ship too. yesterday he reposted a vote from saturday's rnc spring retreat with a caption that says is donald trump's vp pick on this stage? the drama, the suspense, all of it. here is one of the things that's cringe he about this.

those vying to be his running mate know what the game is, and they know they are performing for an audience of one. take a sampling of some performances. over the weekend. let's start with senator marco rubio, republican senator born and raised in florida who served the state as a public servant for decades. he was asked if he would relocate out of florida to become donald trump's running mate. this is how we answered. >> would you leave the state of florida or change your residency if you rest to join the ticket? >> i think before anyone decides to move from their stay, you better make sure you move to a state where there is not a d8 that makes a career after going after republicans. >> there's a lot packed into that answer. a lot of words. it is definitely not a no. how awkward would it be for marco rubio if he finds himself in a new home in scranton, pennsylvania, waiting for call

that never comes from trump. then there's doug burgum who did not back down from supporting trump, even if he's convicted after's ongoing criminal trial. >> if donald trump becomes a convicted felon because of this case, will that affect your support for him for president? >> if he becomes a convicted felon in this case, that's just a travesty of justice. >> having a jury trial with the best lawyers that money can buy is a travesty of justice? strong words. maybe the governor got points there for dramatics or the long pause. help us out the corridor, kristi noem. she recently wrote a book that included details like shooting her puppy and confronting north korean dictator kim jong un. while she did shoot her puppy, transition government with kim jong un but in a trump interview, she plowed forward to the fact she was lied -- through the facts she lied about a meeting with a foreign dictator in her own book.

it didn't matter. >> i am taking responsibility for the change we have made. >> for the mistake in the book. >> i told you that. no it is not. >> you are not taking responsibility for the mistakes? >> i am saying this book is very, very good and i met with many world leaders. >> painful. painful. some flatteringly or pugnacious this will either try to win gover trip with her willingness to engage in election denial is a. tim scott showed his chops on that one. >> when you commit to accepting election results of 2024. bottom line. >> at the end of the day, the 47 president of the united states will be president donald trump. i am excited to get back to low- inflation low unemployment. >> yes or no. will you accept election results no matter who wins?

>> that is my statement. >> yes or no. will you accept election results of 2024? >> i look forward to present trumpeting the 47 president. you can ask me multiple times. >> just a yes or no answer. >> the american people will meet the decision. this is why so many americans believe nbc is an extension of the democratic party. >> yes or no. >> i expect president trump to win the next election. >> the question is why? it's not like there is a prior example the katella badly this may turn out for them. just ask mike pence. tim miller joins me when we come back. k.

turns at the apprentice never quite ended for donald trump. according to recordings of a

private luncheon obtained by axios, the former president has been commenting on his potential running mates. michael rubio he's the, quote, his name is coming up a lot for vice president. and doug burgum he said, did not know this. he was a supporter of my two campaigns. he's a very rich man. for byron donalds, he told, quote, i like diversity. diverse attendees you would say. i don't know who would say that. trump sounds more excited about the buildup then actually having to pick a running mate. joining his tim miller, he is host of the podcast in msnbc political analyst. we do not need to treat this on the level, but he has to pick a running mate. it's not the traditional ones where it's like secret meetings between advisers and candidates and things like that. talk about what these candidates are trying to prove to trump? they are taking different tactics, it seems. >> are taking different tactics

toward one and proving their you're willing to humiliate themselves for him. that is wedding looking for. it's always like, either george bush was looking for cheney . somebody who had more policy have to go with the. obama maybe wanted someone who would been around the block a little bit. picked joe biden. sometimes it was somebody from a swing state. may be gender or racial to the ticket. this is not what he is thinking about. he is thinking who will go along with my next coup. who will do what i tell them? maybe there are other things he's considering. doug burgum, he could fund my campaign. who might be able to give a sheen of credibility to my corruption. that is what he is looking at and doing it as you mentioned, reality show apprentice way. it is very different. it is gross really. it's not what the stakes were

in the past. >> is quite embarrassing to all of these people involved. this may be a silly question, but they also what happened to mike pence. why do they want this? the power of the? they think they can change them? what is the thinking? >> i've been thinking a lot about this. doug burgum has a good life. he is a rich man. he could buy an island. a couple of things i think are at play. the baser parts of these guys is they think, i don't think they take the threat to democracy seriously. they don't think trump would actually do it. why they think that after january 6 is hard to understand. if you don't take that seriously, then you start to think, this guy will go away. he will keel over. maybe they will impeach and convict him next time. who knows how bad it will be a maybe he won't run again.

then it's me and i am there. once you start imagining being the one in air force one and having that be your airplane, rationalization comes quick and fast. i think that is what's happening. they are seeing themselves in the big chair. >> they think they can get rid of him in some capacity and therefore sit at the resolute desk of some version. we just played tim scott centerview. it's played a lot over the last 24 hours, and watching that as a communications person, i find it painful and it gives me ptsd. what did you think? is that what trump is looking for? how do you think that approach plays with the base? is that what you are supposed to do? >> no. that was the gary buse see -- how do you do that? he is stumbling. he has weird laughter and he doesn't look confident.

you can tell he is uncomfortable in his own skin. i think trump is looking for -- j.d. vance did the same two step as tim scott. he was much more aggressive, attacking the media. i think that is what trump is looking for. i should say about tim scott, in an alternate universe, tim scott was supposed to be that serious, optimistic, republican . there's an alternate world where he would never find himself doing something like this. it is humiliating and dangerous to democracy and it says something sad about the incentives in the republican party right now that it has come to this for somebody like tim scott. >> i feel it's been the diminishment of tim scott. he obviously did not know him well, but is been diminishing. we just have a few seconds. give your best prediction of who you think trump's is leaning towards? >> i think jd. don jr. wants him and he feels

the most authentic maga and will go along with any antidemocratic efforts in the future. that's where my bet would be. >> we will see. maybe will place a wager is something. >> who do you have? >> i don't know but i thought it was tim scott. that interview was painful to watch. tim miller, thank you and i appreciate talking to you. one relevant lesson i learned during my career that get service advice for those being relentlessly attacked by the former president. er presid

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i've never had to deal with donald trump directly. i've never been targeted by him. this is not an invitation. i know what it's like to be targeted by people like him. for the people fearful of bullets and men who revert to fear, i understand security concerns. i want to share something i've learned when it comes to being fearful about backlash that may come. i was the target of the letter for -- vladimir putin's machine. when russia invaded crimea, i was the spokesperson for the state department. i was responsible to articulate the country's opposition to the ovation. is a right, i did not hold back. i called the invasion illegal. i called president putin a pariah. because i became one of the faces of the u.s. opposition to the invasion, russian propagandists targeted me and relentlessly attacked me. if you were wondering what of

his like to be targeted by the kremlin? not great. as i write in my book, being attacked and having disinformation spread about you can feel isolated. no matter the source. that's how i felt at the time. at first, a little paralyzed by it. early on, got a helpful tip from a former moscow bureau chief who told me, quote, you should know that the russians trying to discredit you as a badge of honor. they did this to secretary crittenden and ambassador mike mcfarland and they do it anyone they worry will break through to their public. after that, i started punching back. i regained my power and effectively combated their campaign against me. that's a good lesson for anyone willing to speak out against people like donald trump. summer doing it and more need to. if he's attacking you, consider it a badge of honor via back at the bully and the bully's machine. you can read about my time in

government and more in my new book, seymore, hitting bookshelves tomorrow. that does it for me. the rachel maddow show starts right now. >> i am proud of the new book and excited about a. i will say it's a really specific honor. i feel like could not have anticipated it before now to be a person banned from entering russia. >> same. >> getting the handoff from someone who was banned. >> we are both van. we are in the same studio and cannot do our shows in moscow. . thank you. and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. really happy to have you here. ready?py the clerk. this is the people of the state of new york against donald j. pe trump, smz-71911/24. appearances starting with people. prosecutor joshua steinglass, for the people, assistant le

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