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signing off, from this special hour. thank you for joining us. keep it right here on msnbc. prosecutors generally like to send the jury into the weekend a powerful testimony to chew over and it sure seems like the manhattan d.a.s office managed to do that with hope hicks.
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the law firm is standing by and i'm guessing that they have thoughts. and a donor event, donald trump took another page out of the authoritarian play with and compared biden's administration to nazi germany. we will speak with congressman raskin. campus protest worries about the economic trajectory, it's clear jens he will be central to this campaign. we have a conversation about this moment for young people in america. okay, my first interaction with some of donald trump's senior aides was in november of 2016, two days after the election and it is still a clear memory of that time. today trump visited the white house, met with president obama in the oval office and while that was happening, his son-in- law took a walk with dennis
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mcdonough around the grounds, inside the west wing. josh ernest pointed out in the briefing room that day that the president-elect brought someone else along. >> the president-elect spokeswoman was here, i had an opportunity to meet with her, to meet her, i guess i should say, while the president-elect was meeting with president obama. you noted she had longer meetings with some other members of my colleagues in the communications team. >> i was communications director at the time and two days after the election, i was one of the people that sat down with hope hicks when she visited with then president- elect trump. of all the things she could've asked, two days after the outcome of the election, she had one question. how do you get the president to approve every statement that goes out in his name? we told her how and we told her
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if we made a statement to commemorate national pancake day, the president doesn't have to prove it. if it's a more significant one, he does and he works with us on it and her response was, "interesting." she said trump will want to approve everything. it made clear to me that when it came to all things pr, her boss was the definition of a micromanager. friday, that's exactly how hope hicks portrayed trump when she testified against him in a manhattan courtroom. her testimony revealed he's obsessed and controlling when it comes to his media coverage and she testified that when she began working for trump in 2015 during his first campaign, the meeting team consisted of only the two of them. "it was just me and mr. trump, who is better than anybody at communications and branding. we were all just following his lead. he is very involved. everyone who works in some sense reports to mr. trump. it's a very big and successful
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company, but it's really run like a small family business." that said, here's the take away. trump was intimately involved in the minutia of his 2016 presidential campaign, everything, so if he was aware of the small things, how could he not be aware of the big things? she painted a picture of the panic inside the trump campaign after the infamous access hollywood tape was released and the attempts at damage control that followed. she said, "i a good sense to believe this is going to be massive story and that it was going to dominate the new cycle for the next several days. -- this is a damaging development." no kidding, did anyone not recognize that this would dominate news coverage and the damaging? put that aside. what's more damning is her testimony about a conversation she had with trump once the stormy daniels story went public in 2018. she testified trump told her michael cohen paid off daniels without his direction or knowledge, but hicks doubted
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trump's cover story. she said "that would be out of character for michael." she also said "i think mr. trump's opinion was that it was better to be dealing with it and that it would have been bad to have that story come out before the election." we don't necessarily know what prompted her to break down in tears as she spoke about her former boss understand but we do know that her testimony was damning. she admitted the payoff was related to the campaign and it did that trump knew about the scheme and without having to call her former boss a liar, she admitted she thought the story he told her about michael cohen doing it alone was not true. in her words, "we were all just following his lead." joining the now is ashley parker, senior national political correspondent at the washington post. we have interest in former general counsel of the fbi and the former acting u.s. solicitor general. so, i want to start with andrew. you said that her testimony was
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devastating to trump's case. why? >> so, i think you outlined it very well, which is, you really have to think about, where is this case going to be at the time of summation? what she gives is direct evidence from donald trump's -- from donald trump, that he was aware of the hush money scheme with respect to stormy daniels. that was a hole in the case until she testified because if you recall, there was a lot of talk about how donald trump didn't sign the agreement between stormy daniels and essentially, michael cohen. there were four signature lines and only three were signs, donald trump did not sign. did michael cullen do this on his own? and donald trump never knew? she made it clear, of course he knew and she has a direct statement from him as well as his pointed out, her concern
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that there is no way that michael would not have told him because he would have wanted credit and is not the kind of guy who would have done this on his own, which he -- what she didn't say was that he was like oh my god, what did you do, he said it was in his interest to do that. finally, we are going to see this week the end result of what she is saying, which is that he reimbursed that hundred $30,000 and i want to make clear, he is on record, in a civil case, saying that he reimbursed michael cohen for hush money payments, so this remains in the case as something on paper. you really can see the end of this case coming up fast and furious with the d.a. closing out on the actual reimbursement scheme, which is something that cannot really be denied, credibly, by donald trump steen. >> andrew kicked us off on the
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legal why. ashley, you cover the trump team and you know that well, you heard a piece about hope hicks as a central piece, were you wrote that "the re- emergence at the criminal trial is another reminder of trims force field, the seemingly inexorable pole he exerts, intentional or not, over everyone who turns into his world. -- she has not spoken." >> there is speculation about why she cried on the stand. you know her, you know the team, why do you think she did? they haven't spoken since january 6, she said. >> a little context. hope hicks, she works for the trump organization, she knows his children, she knows him, he asks her to be a staffer on his campaign, it's so far-fetched that when he asks, she thinks he's talking about a marketing campaign for a golf course,
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right? she occupies a role as almost a daughter and there's a lot of warmth and affection between them and when i was covering the trump white house, i was struck by, there were a lot of leaks in the media because there were warring factions in the white house, and a lot of people, because they didn't like with the president was doing on their agenda or this issue and that, and she will would deal with the media, she truly came through that she was upset because she thought the stories were hurting mr. trump, or president trump, politically and personally. she really cared about him, right? she testifies before january 6th and is compelled to testify but that adds a rupture, a cooling of their relationship because my reporting showed that the president's daughter was furious with hope for text messages that came out that hope had sent, saying the president is destroying everything we worked for, the
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only job i'll be able to get is a local proud voice chapter, and trump himself had thought she had gone too far. by talking to people they said there's real warmth and affection and she doesn't want to do this, she's angry and frustrated that she's been called and thinks it's a waste of time and money. with that reporting, she started crying when she was asked, they offered you a ticket to this world, they are responsible for your job, and i think it was an emotional moment for her because it's an incredibly complicated relationship. she didn't want to be there, answering those questions, and he didn't want her to be there, he didn't want to listen to what she had to say i think it was uncomfortable for her to answer honestly. >> no question about it. given their history as you outlined it. people can read that story to learn more. obviously, you've argued many cases in front of juries. how does a jury digest someone like hope hicks, is laid out,
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she's close to the defendant, how did they digest and what's the goal in the case of the prosecution? >> the first big picture point is just how sordid this trial is. this trial is running through his greatest hits like access hollywood, the payoff to stormy daniels, you can understand that and i don't think the jury is eager to be there. you can see trump's defense emerging while the prosecution is building his case, which is that they are taking pot shots at the witnesses and their credibility and they've been attacking michael cohen, before he has even shown up to testify . at the end of the day, the hard question is going to be, look, trump's lawyer, michael cohen, took out a home equity loan on his house, paid with his own money, and got it reimbursed by trump as a
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business expense. that was grossed up by trump to avoid tax and the like and how could that be michael cohen's idea with no involvement ? i think that is really what the jury is going to focus on. i think that we saw today, with the testimony, another possible defense which is look, yes, trump's knew something about these payments and he was worried about protecting his wife, worried about the story coming out. that will have two big problems , one that trump doesn't appear to have worried about her very much throughout his lifetime, and second, that he really appears, according to testimony, to just want the cash and cooperation to take the route. he was not as worried about her or anyone else finding about it once he was president, he wanted to keep it from the american people and that is where hicks was devastating. she testified that when the access hollywood tape came out,
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everything changed and everyone was terrified and so the catch and kill operation was part of trying to protect the candidate from the public. >> so much we didn't know in the moment. this is very consistent with what hope said. you described michael cohen as a "doll with a pheasant in his mouth " which made me laugh. he is someone who wants to show his boss what he did. how compelling and important is that? how does that link to what you expect to sesame to be like when he takes the stand? >> the jury will be asked, what possible reason would there be for michael cohen to have kept this to himself anything there are two answers. one is that he wouldn't because he would want credit for this and there's nothing to hide, there's only something to make him look good. you see from hope hicks that donald trump's reaction was, thank god michael
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cohen did this, it would have been bad if it came out before the election. that is how she ends her direct testimony on friday. it was devastating. everything they refer to, with respect to michael cohen about his character, is something the d.a. will be hiding from. everything you are hearing is that he would not be doing this on his own and out of the goodness of his heart and they are sort of going to flip the script on that issue. he would have of course gotten donald trump to prove that by the way, there will be telephone records that show that michael cohen, at the time of creating the vehicle used to payback stormy daniels, is on phone calls with donald trump,
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just the same day. the phone records themselves will be another piece, another nail in the coffin that you will hear a lot more about as the case closes. >> the trial reconvenes tomorrow morning, thank you for joining us. coming up, the one phrase from one prosecutor in the criminal trial that i can't stop thinking about. later, jamie raskin will be here with comments about the leaked comments at trump's event last night, comparing the biden administration to the gestapo. we will be right back. k.
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blurry. he's a defendant one day, i candidate another, and on and on we go but in the midst of this mess we are living through, of trials, campaign rallies, and more trial days, we are watching something important. the defendant strategy is showing up a lot the candidate strategy and his state of mind. one of the big issues is the former presidents gag order. he was fined repeatedly and threatened with jail time which is significant, but it didn't get him to stop. he kept going, kept attacking, because to him, that is all he has. the judge had a second hearing later in the week and something one of the prosecutor said in those arguments stood out to me. he said trump was creating "an air of menace" over the trial with his persistent and
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escalating rhetoric. prosecutors choose their words carefully and that captures what he's trying to do, right? threatened the judge, jury, the witnesses, he's calling entire systems into question as if to say it's all right, i'm the victim and by the way, there will be chaos if i lose. what is so striking to me, that is trying to create. the defendant was in court anti- magazine released a set of lengthy interviews with the candidate and there is basically menace on every page. we will talk about some of the truly alarming things that he said about abortion and immigration and other issues, but there was also a flashing warning sign, something that as they say, time and time again,
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would be blaring for is any other time in political history. he was asked about the prospect of political violence around the election and here is what he said. "i think we are going to win and if we don't, it depends did it always depends on the fairness of an election." not at denouncement of political violence, not, under no circumstances should there be violence, he said it depends, and in a separate interview, he said, "if everything is honest, i would gladly accept the results. if it's not, you have to fight for the right of the country." i mean, you're menace. in the trial in the campaign, there should be concerned around what he is trying to do around the atmosphere of fear and intimidation is trying to create but we should be clear about what that tells us because defendants think they are innocent and don't attack
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we see this pretty much every week, but there's a lot going on. too much to process and sift through every day even for those of us who do it for a living. with exactly 6 months to election day, one of the most important to keep our eye on is what exactly donald trump will do if he gets back to the white house. luckily, he's making it easy for us. in an interview released this week, he laid it out. he would work to deport 11 million people and use the national guard to do so, let red states monitor women's pregnancies, and prosecute
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those who violate abortion bands. you be willing to fire a u.s. attorney refused to carry out his order to prosecute someone, pardons for every one of his supporters accused of tacking the capitol hill are generally six, and staff is a demonstration with those who back his claims that the 2020 election was stolen. the reporter asked if he understood why americans might take issue with the dictatorship that his response? "i think a lot of people like it." i'm not sure about that. so what do authoritarians and dictators due to their opponents? the project. at a private donor event, trump compared the biden administration to the gestapo. joining me now is democratic congressman, jamie raskin, of maryland. let me start there. when you hear donald trump, i know we are numb to this sometimes but when he compares the biden administration to the gestapo, what's your reaction?
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>> every accusation is a confession, essentially, of purpose. we have never had a presidential candidate, much less a president, talk like that before, about the other party in america. there has been a strong degree of civility at that level, so it telegraphs very dark intentions. >> it's what peters do, which is important for people to remember. let's go back to the thing i ended on, the final summary of this article which was very lengthy, and 83 minute interview where he said a lot. he said about his talk of dictatorship, that a lot of people like it. >> he's right about that in the sense that dictators, whoever, the most horrible specimens of the 20th century, have always had their supporters. it does not last long because most
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people want to lead a life of democracy and security and freedom and self-government, but those kinds of opportunists have always been able to fool some significant part of the population for a certain period of time. the founders of america knew that. alexander hamilton, in the first federalist paper, warned of demagogues who would whip up a mob friendly -- frenzy instead of using government for the common good to make things better for people. at this point, americans are forewarned. if you look at the things he's talking about doing, mass roundups and incarceration and deportation, crackdown on women in red states on abortion, banning women from going from red states to blue states to get reproductive health care, freeing the so-called january 6
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hostages, a majority of whom are people who pled guilty to violently assaulting our police officers, that's an authoritarian program, right out of the playbook of mussolini and beyond. >> no question about it. someone who are still around the country, dictators right now. what strikes me time and time again is that we have seen this movie before. you have led investigations, when he said, "i think we are going to win, and if we don't, it depends." that was a response to a question about the potential for political violence. >> which is a hallmark of fascist and authoritarian political parties but none of the republicans will commit to stand by the results of the 2024 election and they won't and by the results of the 2020 election 160 different federal and state court decisions
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rejected every claim of election fraud and corruption that donald trump brought forward. they are saying it was a stolen election and there's no evidence of that. you cannot make it remotely possible case for and they are in an alternate reality. >> to your point, they are not willing to commit to abiding by the outcome in 2024. there was a little bit of a vp stakes race with a lot of people this morning on sunday morning shows, answering this question. i want to play something tim scott said in exchange with kristen welker. >> senator, will you commit to accepting the election results of 2024, bottom line? >> at the end of the day, the 47 the president of the united states will be president donald trump and i am excited to get back to low inflation, low -- >> yes or no, will you accept the election results 2024 no
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matter who wins? >> that is my statement. >> that is my statement. it's not a hard question. i think we should acknowledge it clearly, that is what trump wants him to say, he wants to be on the vp list, but how concerned should we be about not becoming the common response? >> it's a dramatic departure from american history, when all of the major presidential candidate have agreed to abide by the outcome, even when there were questions like in 2000, bush versus gore, vice president gore actually had a lead in the popular vote and there were real questions about what was taking place in florida and yet, he stood down in the interest of constitutional continuity and now we have politicians who will not abide by a certifiably legal election outcome, because they say well, donald trump, he
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will be the 47th president, and of the day, not ended the election, but end of the day, and we know what other events they may have planned. >> such an important thing for people to remember and be clear about. we've been talking about it, about hope hicks testimony, and the significance of that. you remember -- you were a member of the january 6th committee. what did you make of the testimony friday, the significance or not significance, what is your view? >> the best way of understanding the trial in new york is that it is part of trump's determination to essentially predetermine the outcome of the election, not by advanced the program and going out and knocking on doors and campaigning but biden manipulating public opinion. there, it was all about paying off hush money to a former mistress, to keep it out of the news and sweep everything under
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the rug, but the problem was that, in terms of leaving a money trail behind, he described that his legal expenses, when he reimbursed michael cohen for the money going to stormy daniels, that made it an illegal campaign expenditure and they were cooking the books at the standpoint of state law. her testimony, to me, reinforced that there was a mad scramble in the trump campaign to deal with the problems of the access hollywood tape and donald trump, bragging about his misogynistic, sexual assault on women in different places, so they could not afford to have another one of these outbursts. >> he knew it would be an impact , which is striking. congressman jimmy raskin, thank you for your clarity in explaining difficult issues and taking us back to what is at stake. thank you for joining us. coming up, someone i've been looking to talk to for a
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you might have seen by now, but my next guest went viral for something he said about these date of the country right now for younger americans. >> i think it ties into what we are talking about on campuses. for the first time in our natures history, a 30-year-old woman is not doing so well as her parents and that's the social compact breaking down. young people have every reason to be enraged and every issue they see, they get angry and they see someone doing better
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than them and every day, it is pushed in their face that they are failing, they are not doing as well as everyone around them. we have lost the script, our kids are more anxious, depressed, obese, addicted, and we have made a purposeful decision to let this happen by ensuring that people around this table stay wealthy at the cost of young people. >> "at the cost of young people." my mother who is a family therapist bought the book and told me i needed to, as well. that was professor nagy or scott galloway laying out the economic reality for somebody on americans. as the last few weeks have shown, there are so many serious issues underscoring the anger including, as we have seen, the impact of the war between israel and hamas, on the people of gaza, anti- semitism on some campuses, but there's no question that the state of the economy is front and center including for young people. the recent harvard use paul
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asked about 2000 americans between the ages of 18 and 29 got a key voting block, and open ended question about which national issue concerned the most and i was surprised by the outcome. as you can see, the economy is the number one issue right now. for them. my next guest is not surprised, scott galloway joins me now, professor at nyu stern school of business and his new book "the algebra of wealth" is out now. i need you on set so you can find a book for my mom but we will wait for that. we have seen disruptions in college commencement, after campus protest at places like columbia and michigan were broken up a few days ago. they are not monolithic. they think it's so important for people to understand, but you've talked about this a fair amount which is been interesting. describe what you think underlies the anger we see on campuses. we are seeing anger about what's happening in gaza.
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what else is missing, in your view, from the conversation, right now? >> first, good to be with you and thank you for the kind words at the opening. the cost to buy a house is gone from $290,000 to $410,000 in the last four years and interest rate are up 7.5% of the average mortgage payment has gone from $1100-$2200. the american dream is out of the reach of two thirds of americans and college costs have skyrocketed in me and my colleagues take up every morning and ask ourselves the same question, how do we increase compensation while decreasing our accountability? we found the ultimate strategy, which is to create artificial scarcity. there is the reason that harvard, with $52 billion in ending their endowment, needs to sequester 95% of their applicants of the freshman class, the size, the number of a good starbucks. we totally sequester housing permit, so
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costs have skyrocketed, cost the american life has skyrocketed and purchasing power has come down. it's incendiary on everything. i'm not these are righteous -- not righteous, but it makes a minor abrasion into opportunistic infection because the atmosphere is that i don't have the opportunity you did and i'm enraged. >> we have seen, again, it's important to understand these are not monolithic protest, the students what they feel in their knowledge is not monolithic either. there are campuses like brown and northwestern, vassar, who have come to some form of diplomatic resolution of sort. they involved divestment in some cases or commitment to discuss divest meant. is there a lesson or pass that any university has taken that you think is a good model for others? >> it's a really important point, because the actual numbers, look at columbia, which was a flashpoint.
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the number of students arrested or even at the protest is typically less than 1% of the student body and i would argue the vast majority of the protest have been civil, peaceful protests, but that's not interesting for media or tiktok. it's the unfortunate stuff that gets broadcast. i was at nyu last week and it felt pretty normal. at columbia, and israeli girl was elected president of the university. people have compared this to 1968. there is not nearly the intensity or the number of people involved as there were, then. a lot of jewish people are worried that this has echoes of 1938, or there seems to be, in my alma mater, ucla, i can't tell you how horrified i was to see students passing out wristbands to non-jewish people and not allowing anyone without a wrist band, i.e., jewish people, restricting them from access to certain buildings at
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ucla. if that was happening to any other special interest group, the response would have been much more swift and harsh so yes, there is a misleading perception around how intense the protest are. the majority have been peaceful, but the scary thing is, is there a double standard? if i went to any of these universities with a white hood and confederate flag and started saying things, i don't think i would ever work in academia again and i think if i cited anything around a disturbance or restricted students of annie's interest group to facilities on campus, i think they would call in the national guard. i think it is smaller than people think and some of the themes are very disturbing. >> no question. it's important to note that there are populations of students who are outraged, understandably, but what's happening in gaza and it's true that if you were screaming from the river to the sea, and trying to represent an oppressed body of people, you
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are oppressing another and that is something that i think is occurring in some cases. let me ask you about your book, which is amazing and people should purchase. it's chock full of incredibly important advice and lessons. i love what you say about exercise, that's the most common, observable characteristic among high- performing people, it's mental health, you talked about taking risks as an entrepreneur and you also rate this, which i think is so insightful. "everything meaningful in life is about others. your ability to support and love others and your willingness to let them love you. nothing profound is achieved in isolation." you are success. i read that as saying there is so much more than wealth, wealth is defined by a range of things, what do you want people to take away? >> i could have been more successful if i had been a little smarter about, similar to when you invest small amounts as a young person into compounds, the small investments you make another
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people, thinking about job opportunities, checking in, running to them, being generous , articulating your emotions. wealth is a full person project. if i made more of those little investments i would have been a lot more sick asphalt and the other lesson i think is that money and financial security is the means, the end is having an absence from anxiety and more time to focus on what every study says is the key to happiness, and that is the number of deep and meaningful relationships you have. money is the means, at the end is deep, loving relationships and money, unfortunately, in a capitalist society, is a requisite for having an absence from stress to focus on what's important your life. money is the ink in your pen. you can write different chapters, make some chapters burn brighter, but it's not your story. your story is deep and meaningful relationships. >> such an important note, you're not scrooge mcduck at the end of your life, your thinking about your relationships. i appreciate you joining me,
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past the service of that invasive nonanswer, you can see the horrifying reality on the ground in states with strict abortion restrictions where, by the way, it has been entirely left up to them, as he suggested. in texas, one woman miscarried in a texas emergency room lobby as she was refused a check in. in north carolina, women gave birth in a car after an emergency room can offer an ultrasound and the baby later died. in florida, number of women needed care and were rushed to providers before the ban was enacted. in idaho, state officials argued that despite a federal law that mandates that pregnant women receive stabilizing care in emergency rooms that receive federal funding, a woman may only receive an emergency abortion if it is to save the life of the mother, not preserve her health. that is what they argued. but it sink in. the state of idaho is arguing against a federal law that guarantees a standard of care for pregnant women. the
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standard of care, that they get the care they need in the rare emergence the situations on the conservative majority is considering siding with idaho. donald trump seems to be perfectly fine with all of it and even supportive of this approach. remember, he has said the state laws are "working very brilliantly," and that is what we are discussing. he would be fine with republican states doing more to restrict reproductive freedom. in an interview with times magazine, that i discussed with congressman raskin, when asked about state laws that can monitor women's pregnancies, he replied "i think they might do that." and asked if he would become to both states prosecuting women, he said, "it's irrelevant whether i am comfortable or not. the states will make those decisions." at 3:27 this morning, strangely, he reiterated his position on treat social, sing " it's all working.
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we will never go back to the federal government and our country will soon start uniting on this long contentious issue." it's all working? it's not, for the majority of women, because what trump is promoting is a cruel patchwork of antiabortion measures where women in a growing number of states are dependent on the whims of the courts and the whims of the state legislature to determine what rights they will have about their own bodies. when he says we will never go back to the federal government, trump has been noticeably invasive when pressed on the specifics of what he would do on a federal level when he gets re-elected and that's what paying attention to because the antiabortion movement surrounding trump believes they have an ace up their sleeve and that same interview with time magazine, trump declined to give his position on the right wing attempted to ban the abortion drug, never pressed down, and his view on reviving a long dormant federal law known as the comstock act. the comstock act is a dormant
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1873 anti-obscenity law that bans the mailing of obscene material and also bans the mailing of materials used for abortion. it's becoming a piece of the antiabortion movement attempted to federally ban mailing drugs used for abortion. even more concerning, the movement has sought to use this as a means to restrict abortion without requiring any action from congress or courts. the fear is that a second trump administration would revive this law as a means of restricting abortion nationally without even a vote. trump has been silent on this but his allies have not and that is telling. project 2025, plan for the next conservative presidency put together by trump acolytes atop conservative organizations calls for a "campaign to enforce the criminal prohibitions of the comstock act against providers and distributors of abortion pills." even one of trump's lawyers, who is also the architect of the texas abortion laws read "we don't need a federal ban
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