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good morning. it is sunday, april 21st. and alisha menendez with symone and michael steele. nato secretary general brings is the view from our allies in europe. >> the vote might cause speaker johnson his gavel this hour. we will hear from house members jasmine crockett and betty thompson. opening statements in donald trump's first criminal trial just over 24 hours away. we are getting set for a crucial week in court. at your coffee and settle in. welcome to the weekend. the long-awaited 95 billion-dollar foreign aid package is now in the hands of the u.s. senate. senators are expected to take of the legislation on tuesday.

saturday afternoon, the house passed a series of bills sending military aid to ukraine, israel and taiwan. the eight for israel also increase two-minute turn really for gaza. when it comes to supporting ukraine, a majority of house republicans voted against the bill picked democrats picked up the slack helping house speaker mike johnson get the bill over the line. as for israel aid, 37 democrats and 21 republicans voted against that portion of the package. joining us now, our nbc news congressional correspondent, julie circuit. >> julie, good morning to you. what did it take to get this thing to actually come into the vision and focus and happen, given all the drama leading up to yesterday? and what has been the repercussions from yesterday patients vote? >> it took many months for speaker johnson to finally decide to put the aid bill on the floor, specifically the $60 billion that would go to arming ukraine.

remember that the senate passed a similar version of the legislation in one package in february. speaker johnson hesitated to do so in large part thanks to pressure from hard-line conservatives in the conference who demanded he not put aid to the floor without any kind of really strict border security measures. obviously, they rejected the bipartisan senate package when it came to fixing the border. they only demanded the conservative proposal hr2 which the democratic-controlled senate and president biden in the white house said they would veto. ultimately, i think it took johnson going to mar-a-lago last week and asking for the former president patients blessing himself to actually put ukraine eight on the floor. i was struck by johnson's comments this week when he said it was critically important to send this aid to ukraine. this is somebody who has voted against sending aid to ukraine as a rank and file number. now he said after seeing the intelligence, which i should point out some of the hardliners threatening to kick him out over it, don't believe

the very agencies that produces intelligence. it took him seeing that, he said, to actually realize how important this was. but like you mentioned, now his job is threatened. there are at least three republican members, all of them hardliners. they talked to them all day long yesterday saying if johnson doesn't resign, they will force a motion to kick him out. that is something moderate republicans and democrats say is a terrible idea and will be interesting to see what happens and unfolds in the next couple of weeks, especially so close to an election. >> julie, struck by the fact that elise stefanik was the only member of house leadership to vote no on the ukraine part of the bill, i wonder if there was anything gleaned from that and we know that senate is poised to vote on this likely as early as may 1st. how early could ukraine see the

benefit of this aid? >> i will answer the last question first. the senate reached an agreement yesterday i think in part because they were motivated by the recess to at least not be here to take the first procedural vote. they will do it by voice vote. sometime today, they will proceed to the first vote on the floor. on tuesday, we could potentially see final passage. either tuesday or wednesday, of all these bills. aid to israel, aid to the indo- pacific or aid to ukraine. and the fourth bill that could potentially result in a tiktok ban. democratic-controlled senate led by chuck schumer said they would support the package and it is likely to pass and president biden will sign it into law sometime next week when it does pass. when it comes to elise stefanik, she is the highest ranking republican woman in the house. she is a member of house leadership. she is the only member of leadership on johnson's team that voted against aid to ukraine but not exactly surprising when you see how she is positioning herself. it is interesting.

when she first came to the house, she was very moderate. she was a symbol of what a bipartisan republican and democratic partnership could look like. in the last three years, she has vastly transformed to someone who has been staunchly behind the former president and has led the effort to overturn the election results and question the integrity of the 2020 election. she has since muddied the waters when it comes to that question and she has angled perhaps to be trump's vp pick. it is clear what she is doing here and how she is positioning herself and i would like to know that she was the only one out of the others on the leadership team that didn't actually run to be speaker in the fall. that is clearly not where she has her eyes set. and certainly this is a tone she has taken on, this persona she has taken on. i will note that a majority of the other republicans if not all in the near delegation that she is part of, actually did support aid to ukraine. she is certainly an outlier there as well. >> thank you so much for

getting us started. let's bring in our democratic congresswoman jazmine crockett. good morning congresswoman. i want you to take a listen to something your colleague represented, a republican from colorado, said yesterday on the house floor. >> the whole world is watching us today. winston churchill, before world war ii, spoke of these like neville chamberlain that chose dishonor over war and ended up with both. likewise, isolationists today that choose to retreat from helping our friends who are being threatened and invaded will find that the struggles of our friends will sooner or later follow us home. >> very clear frustration there congresswoman come with the isolationists and his own caucus. the people that have held the aid of now for months. this is being described as a coalition government given the number of democrats that were needed to get this over the

finish line. for one, do you agree with the assessment that this is somehow a coalition government? and do you see opportunities to get more things over the finish line? >> i'm sorry, alicia. >> the laughter is an answer and an of itself. >> it absolutely is an answer. we know that these people don't believe in governance. and obviously the idea that it is a coalition government, i think that is what government historically has been. it has been a place in which maybe you don't agree on everything. and in fact you don't agree on everything. what you do is you try to find some sort of an agreement so that you can move forward for the american people. unfortunately, we have had obstructionists running the house as i have described on my twitter, that i still call twitter. i have described as we have had the patience, insane asylum. i have to give credit where credit is due.

i will say that i appreciate that the speaker decided to stand up and do what is speaker is supposed to do and the fact that we were given any kind of leverage to putin -- in this work, i'm excited to know that the speaker has decided that he doesn't any longer want to be part of the putin caucus. >> we talked about this at the end of the show. this was a conversation about the fact that yes, you must give credit where credit is due. speaker johnson, for whatever his -- his reasons, it was a combination of the intelligence he received as well as his own son being enrolled into the naval academy this fall and there is a direct connection. >> a direct connection. speaker johnson himself talked about how we don't want to send our sons and daughters it.

>> we want to send bullets, not our boys. >> notable. >> in the house foreign aid package, i should note that you voted yes on the ukraine aid, israel aid and tiktok ban. >> i did not vote yes for the tiktok ban. but that was part of it. it was a very typical vote. if anybody wants to look at my voting record, i went neutral the first time on the tiktok ban. the idea we could basically play robin hood and take money from russia and give it to the ukrainians, i'm down for that. and that outweighed it for me. >> the repo act. >> that was part of it. for me, that was -- i will do it and let the senate say, we still don't understand what tiktok is and pull it out. that was my calculus. >> she is calculating. >> so i do want to dance a little more on the repo act.

the repo act is a very interesting part of this discussion as nbc noted. the house passed the foreign aid package saturday as well as what is called the repo act that will allow the biden administration to confiscate billions of dollars worth of russian assets sitting in u.s. banks and transfer them to ukraine for reconstruction to me, that is one of the smartest components of all of this. at the end of the day, it takes the air out of the crazy nonsense coming from the putin caucus. let's hear them whined about taking money out of putin's pocket and giving it to ukraine. talk about the thinking behind that and how soon you think the administration will take advantage of what this act allows it to do? >> we have heard clearly from the president that the president stands with the ukrainian people and stands with president volodymyr zelenskyy. this was something that the

speaker wanted to give as an extra. he wanted to give extra as it relates to being able to take the funds and give extra as it relates to forgivable loan. not that i'm necessarily down with a forgivable loan. i think it was more of a game than anything for them to save face. the repo act was that something is really smart and that would beltway other things put into the bill. i think a lot of us were doing a lot of calculating as it relates to the bills in general. a lot of people are upset about the israel aid package specifically and this was the third israel aid package that had come to the house floor. the first when i voted for because the first one was to fund israel and defund the irs and the second was to fund israel and fund nothing else. and this one, leader jeffries

specifically was like, we have to have money for the people of gaza and so there are those that felt like it wasn't enough. and it wasn't. but we have to do something. a lot of calculating was going on. >> a lot of calculating. >> speaking of speakers, we want to talk more about speaker mike johnson and whether he will continue to speak for republicans after yesterday's vote. later, what to expect and tomorrow's opening statements in donald trump's first criminal trial. you are watching "the weekend" on msnbc. you should use it every wash, otherwise the flakes will come back. tiny troy: he's right, you know. is that tiny troy? the ingredients in head and shoulders keep the microbes that cause flakes at bay. microbes, really? they're always on your scalp... little rascals... but good news, there's no itchiness, dryness or flakes down here!

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as i have said many times, i don't walk around this building worried about a motion to vacate. we have to do the job. what i've done is the right thing and that is to allow the house to work its will. as i said, you do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may. >> today's republican party doing the right thing could cost you your job. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is blasting speaker mike johnson is a quote lame duck after the house approved much needed aid for ukraine. and when it comes to her push to remove him as speaker, she is now saying, let the fellow republicans hear from their constituents before moving

forward with a motion to vacate. back with us is congresswoman jasmine crockett. >> let me just pull up the cover of the new york post. it features this image of marjorie taylor greene with the headline here. gop rebels defeated as $61 billion in ukraine aid past. i don't even have a question. i'm just looking for your reaction. >> i very rarely agree with a new york post. but i do today. seriously. we were in oversight this week. it was a powerful and amazing hearing that the democrats owned and it was interesting that she consistently, historically, has tweeted out russian propaganda. literally quote tweeting out russian propaganda. the fact that she thinks that she is on the right side of history is beyond me.

when i first got to the house, i thought, is she really this slow? or is it a game? and i have decided she is really this slow. >> i'm not going to disagree with that. the reality i think for me is a number of areas. one, in the visual of the speaker coming out to the microphones in a moment like this, there were no other republicans around. >> no house leadership and no rank-and-file members. the starkness of the moment struck me because it was almost as if it was like, i'm going to walk the walk by myself and i'm going to be very clear about why i'm doing this. and that was one. the second was the marjorie taylor greene, show your behind moments that she had throughout the day. thumbs down and the loud noise.

when you are sitting there and you are trying to get the business of the country done, how do you get around all of that noise so that you can get to a moment with the leadership to actually get the paperwork done despite all the other drama happening around you? for example, when ukrainian flags came up. you have members -- republican members, thumbs down, telling them to put the flags down. they weren't upset about the decorum of marjorie taylor greene with the maga outfit at the state of the union. how does the house reconcile? you just muddle through until november? or do you try to find one or two more things to get done? >> democrats have consistently said, we are here to work for the american people and every single piece of foundational legislation that has been

passed has been passed because democrats have carried it. we have carried the load. we know the american people see this and i know the american people are thinking, how did we allow the republicans to be the ones that were in control the house? there has been nothing but drama as it relates to the speakership's and even the threats of kicking out another speaker and throwing the house into turmoil especially as we see the hostility growing across the world, it is not a time to play games. and to be frank, it is never time to play games as a u.s. sitting member of our congress but that is exactly what we are getting from the maga branch and i have to applaud the speaker because he has decided it is time to be an adult and that is one thing mccarthy struggled with, actually deciding that i'm not only going to be an adult and what i do but in what i say. speaker johnson has decided he

is going to do that. that cost him his job quickly think the american people are smart enough to know that it is not the democrat's fault but maga's felt and ultimately, i think he knows how to work his way to holding on. >> i think the speaker will be fine honestly. >> you do? >> i do. >> politico had a piece that speaks to that and said, democrats have signaled they will help save him, as in speaker johnson, if there is a recommend him on the bipartisan rescue mission that many predicted would have doomed mccarthy if republicans had not successfully voted him out on the first try, uncharted speaker territory. mike johnson did do the right thing on this. i'm waiting to see if this is just a moment or if this is true movement. he did go down to mar-a-lago not a week and a half ago and stood with donald trump who is

an unelected individual. a former president to literally seems to be holding the house republican caucus by the arm and multi- indicted individual. >> exactly. and wondering if this is just a moment or if this is true movement from my johnson revolution. and i also think it's a trial for the american people but shows the depth of the president. president biden and democratic leadership in the house. they have outmaneuvered consistently mike johnson and republicans every time in this congress, i think. >> i think it is a moment. i'm not going to get so excited. the democrats would have said what they would do with that kind of stuff, we follow our leadership. they might have said they would vote for him. when i say i'm not voting for him, i stand by that. i only vote for leader jeffries if we have to go through this

again. he has to get to the table with leader jeffries come for leader jeffries to allow different democrats to go out and do something. we don't do things for you or save you because you did the bare minimum of your job. we have to get something out of this. we know the republican policies that have been pushed this for are failures. the only thing we can do is, when he is in a time of need, that is time to negotiate. that is time to make sure we can push through and get something as well. doing the decent thing as allies and friends of various nations and countries, that is just doing the bare minimum. that is what we did. the bare minimum. just like getting to the budget. that is the bare minimum. sometimes an extra six months. we don't reward doing the bare minimum. >> very important for the people of ukraine. congresswoman jasmine crockett, thank you for doing more than the bare minimum and coming to

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a new bill has been introduced in congress that if passed would strip secret service protection for convicted felons sentenced to prison. congressman thompson proposal legislation friday. it would address the very specific scenario of secret service having to serve time in jail. the proposal is a not-so-subtle dig at donald trump and a reminder that none of this is normal. joining us now is the former chairman of the january 6th committee, democratic congressman thompson of mississippi. >> good morning, chairman.

it is a pleasure to have you. the washington post had screens that if trump was convicted, secret service protection may be an obstacle to imprisonment. thank you for legislation. i have been saying for some time that any former president or federal official that has the type of protection and other benefits of being a former member of office, all of that should go away. all of it. all the privileges and all the briefings and all the access should go wait until your status is cleared up in the criminal justice system. what say you, sir? this legislation for me is long overdue in the world of trump. >> thank you so much. i think it basically says that in america, no one is above the law. and so it is really simple. the average man or woman on the street assumes that when you break the law, if their

benefits you are receiving before you are convicted, you lose those benefits. as you know, secret service protection is a given. but i think that in the moment we are looking at now, like we have in the past, we have amended the law. so former senator robert kennedy, when he was killed, we amended the law to say that nominees of a party for presidents would receive the protection. this is an amendment through current law that says, just like in any other state, most of the times, when a person is convicted, if there is a benefit associated with that

person, for instance, social security. if you go to prison and you are receiving social security, that benefit is cut off until you can get out. there are normal things that occur. and with this, we are expanding that to the current situation. none of us ever dreamed that we would be here but we are. somebody with 91 felony counts were someone who is intimidating a prospective juror or someone who is having to veto by a judge a number of times sit down. i think it is a moment in this country that we have to address. and for the notion that somehow, what happened on january 6th didn't happen or didn't have been and what you saw with your own eyes didn't occur, there is something wrong with that. this clears it up.

and makes sure that those individuals at the highest seat of power, understand that there are punitives that apply to you, even when you are the president of the united states. >> chairman, as i was reading the disgraced former protect dpac feds act, i was a little confused about something which is, is this answering specifically for that person percent time in prison? or is also applicable if they were to then be to the time after? >> two things. first of all, if you are in prison, you are under the custody of that system. so there is no sense to duplicate the protection. when you come out, the spouse continues to receive protection. at the end of that, that individual has to apply. a lot depends on what the

sentences for that person. and ultimately, it is up to the secret service whether they get it back. >> congressman, i think mr. chairman, this is a really important conversation and a critical piece of legislation because in legal circles and nonlegal circles alike and throughout cable news and in the papers, many folks have said and it is even in the washington post headline that michael referenced, that secret service could be a barrier to donald trump or anyone like him meeting consequences. as you well know, you were the ranking member of homeland security and the house, the committee. there are presidents in this country. the one michael cole went to best country club presidents. this idea that secret service is a barrier to accountability i think is not true. i wonder what you think.

>> we want to clear up the law. the secret service is there for protection. but the protection stops when it is determined whether or not an individual broke the law. every individual has an opportunity for his or her day in court if they are charged. if they are convicted, and in this instance, the moment the person is convicted and given to the custody of the authorities, they lose that protection at that moment. so there is no question. and you have seen and all the hearings and in court or they remand the individual to the custody of whoever, that the president loses that protection at that moment. so it is clear in this situation that the public has to understand that no one is above the law. and the individual who is entrusted

with the authority also understands that he or she is not above the law and to be quite honest, as you know, i was chair of the january 6 committee. there are a lot of things that came up in our review that caused me great pause. and so i think, anyone in the highest seat of power would give second thoughts to some of the things they do if they would understand that some of it -- some of what goes with this job could be lost if you do the wrong thing. 91 criminal charges. it is clear that something is wrong. something is amiss. and we have to at least address it. this is my way of addressing what most people assume already occurs. if you break the law, the same benefits should no longer apply.

and in this instance, that secret service, 24/7 protection, would be no longer enforced. >> chairman, given the current composition of the leadership of the house, what are the prospects of the legislation actually passing in this congress? or is this something that you see getting -- by republicans, being the donald trump protection racket, or is this something you think you could peel off a number of republicans, just enough to get it passed? because like you, they see the value of the argument you are making. >> i think it is clear that this is a marker for the future. we have never discussed the presidential protect the situation. am convinced that if the

current situation rests with the fact that former president trump is convicted, i think it takes a different venue. i think the speaker would be hard-pressed not to bring it to the floor. i think the senate would do likewise. clearly, in this great country of ours, when a person who has gone before his peers and is convicted, then it is over. and he have lost many of those privileges that you were entitled to before the conviction. i'm optimistic. i know a lot of pressures there but this is a marker for future discussion and debate the depends largely on what occurs in new york over the next few weeks. >> congressman thompson, thank you very much.

we appreciate it. president biden's fight for abortion rights takes him to florida this week. the deputy campaign manager will join us with the preview. you are watching "the weekend."

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president biden will be hitting the road again this week . tuesday, he will travel to florida where he is expected to tie the reproductive rights ban. the deputy campaign manager, quentin foltz. welcome back. >> good to see you. we had the democratic leader of the florida house on the show a couple weeks ago and we asked her directly what she made of all this talk about florida. she noted to us, let me give you a real example. she said in january of this

year, they flipped a state house district from red to blue and the deciding issue in the race was abortion. is at the campaign's belief as well that florida is not only in play to be competitive but winnable and abortion and reproductive freedom is the way in which board is back on the board? >> i think florida has been emerging because of exactly what donald trump and people like ron desantis have been doing in that state. it is ground zero for everything we will talk about. chief among them, reproductive freedom for women. donald trump is directly responsible for the reason why one of three women in the country of reproductive age are living under a total abortion ban and he is bragging about it saying he will double down and sign a national abortion ban and ripping away planning services like ivf so florida is ground zero for what they are trying to across the country. we are seeing it play out in

places like arizona. we will continue to take the message to the american voter to let them know president biden wants to restore reproductive freedom and to make sure women have control not over their own bodies. >> it is not just reproductive control. i think the campaign looks more broadly at the country. i went to play for you the biden campaign and what you are familiar with, scranton. >> joe love scranton because since the beginning, president biden is my first cousin and it's like a pride of them still here. >> we are all hard-working people. , longtime friend of president joe biden. we go way back. even for grade school. he never forgot where he came from. >> this is an ad that cuts right to the heart of the country and goes right up the middle. is michigan and wisconsin and ohio.

talk about the thinking come the sort of everyday feel of the campaign. you have the big issues like abortion and big issues like ukraine. at the end of the day, this will boil down to how people feel around the kitchen table about joe biden. >> i think the world views on the way people are brought up shape who they are. president biden, because of where he comes from in scranton is guided by family, honesty, decency and hard work and that is what he brings to his leadership style. when you talk about these issues, this is the difference we will continue to point out. donald trump sees the world through country club set mar-a- lago and biden sees it from the kitchen table and communities like scranton across the country who are worried about cost and jobs and doing everything he can to make sure they have a fair shot and donald trump is out there on the economic issues promising tax breaks, three too million dollars per billion or. sitting behind closed doors of

fundraisers and saying, if you like me, i will cut your taxes and threatening to get social security and medicare and raise taxes on middle-class families and giving businesses 1. 5 trillion-dollar windfalls so they can continue to cheat and not pay the fair share. this is what guides the campaign. this has been a strategy all along. the issues have to double down and talk to american voters about the people impacting their lives every day and that is what the president and the vice president on the campaign trail are trying to do across the communities and donald trump is in this campaign for himself. i think american people can see with their own eyes and hear with their own ears exactly where donald trump is, what he is saying and who he cares about in contrast. and what he is saying talking to american voters directly. >> there is information from politico saying the trump campaign will deploy election workers to monitor pulsates. i wonder if you read that as a

form of voter intimidation and how the biden/harris campaign is preparing to counter those trump efforts efforts. >> absolutely, we read it is voter intimidation. it is nothing new. unfortunately, it is a playbook donald trump and the republicans pull out every time there is an election to deter people from voting and confuse people of the right to vote and we are not going to let that happen. we have a voter protection program we are building in the campaign and we will make sure the elections go smoothly. we have time from now until november. the focus now is making sure we bring into focus that donald trump is the opponent we are running against and donald trump does not care about middle-class or average americans. he only cares about himself we will continue to double down on that. and when it is time for the ballots to be counted, we will make sure we do everything we can and our power to make sure it goes smoothly and nobody is suppressed of the right to vote in this country. >> clinton, i think it is important to note that is my

understanding that the biden campaign has opened well over 100 offices across the country in battleground states and in rural spaces where democratic offices have not been opened before. it sounds like a playbook from when you were the campaign manager for raphael warnock and his senate race in georgia. things are moving and happening. there have been all kinds of poles that have come out and show a bit of a tightening here. my question is, i talked to the streets and i know you talk to the streets. what are you doing about ensuring there is not a substantial drop off or even a little bit of drop off in terms of these key voting groups like black women, latino men, black men, api voters. people across the country. the president will need that same level of engagement if you will be reelected?

>> we have to be in the communities where they are. you mentioned we are putting field offices and there is a reason we are investigating and investing in these communities. this campaign has a look and feel of the communities we are trying to address. we are proud of the diversity of the campaign. they have to see themselves in the advertising of the campaign. it will be a singular approach. most a portly, we have to talk to the issues the voters care about and make sure they know president biden wakes up every morning fighting for those issues. we had to do these things at the same time. the offices we are opening are not just open for the sake of saying we have over 100 field offices open. the offices are to engage in communities that range from telling them about all the things president biden has done for them and also helping people connect to the things that president biden has done that they may not be aware of or resources they might not be able to tap into. we are doing those things. this won't be easy. it is something we knew from

the beginning. we had to come out of the gate forcefully and work on it. i think that is making sure we bring people into the fold from the smaller issues we talked about today and the bigger issues and the advertising we do. people thing themselves and it. black women, different angles we just passed black maternal health week and we know black people face a higher mortality rate. we are living in the united states of america in 2024 and it is unacceptable. we have to make sure we are talking about these issues, we span them and we are hitting every point that it's those constituency groups. and proud of the work the campaign has been doing on that front today. >> noted. >> before we go, is the president going to have that conversation and make the case for those issues in a debate with donald trump anytime this fall? >> it is kind of hard to take donald trump seriously on the issues of debates when he was

in the republican primary. he didn't debate ones. as you all know, these conversations evolve over the course of campaigns that happen in the fall and we will see where they go. the campaign stands ready to do what is necessary that we are taking the case directly to american voters. it is hard to take donald trump seriously when he is talking about debates. >> mr. chairman thank you for coming and chatting with us. >> in the next hour, andrew weissman will join us and we will get set for opening statements and donald trump's first criminal trial. it happens on monday. right now, this is "the weekend." but even after all this time your thyroid eye disease could still change. restoration is still possible. learn how you could give your eyes a fresh start at tedhelp.com.

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i want to pick up on something we were talking about with quentin foster. this contrast, the split screen we saw between president biden and former president trump in the starkest relief you have seen. we have donald trump actively in a criminal trial. last night, he was supposed to have a campaign event in north carolina that had to be canceled because of thunder and lightning and you have joe biden actively hitting the campaign trail taking his message about everything from reproductive rights to the economy across the country. and as you suggested, symone, the fact that the house was able to get the legislation through and testament to speaker johnson and it is a testament to joe biden. talk about the split screen,

symone. i don't know that you have ever seen the split screen quite as stark as you have the last week in the coming week. >> joe biden, this man is out there doing his best for the country saving ukraine eight and out here trying to keep prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his conservative -- that is not we would call call it but his far right crazy at bay and get aid to the people in gaza. make sure people don't forget about taiwan and fight for reproductive freedom as vice president kamala harris. and nobody is like, i don't know. donald trump is very competitive sitting in the courtroom like -- >> falling asleep in the courtroom. >> here is the stark relief for me. all of that, biden doing his thing out on the campaign trail. donald trump in the courtroom by himself did not his wife, not his children. what does this say about a man in a moment like that when his family is not with him and he

doesn't want his family with him or they don't want to be with him? to me, that says more as an american looking at a man who wants to be president than anything else. and all the family value types out there need to question some things if you don't think there is something up with the man sitting in the courtroom by himself and not anyone remotely related to him expressing their concern, love, hope publicly for him. >> i don't blame melania. i'm not ev to g into it. refill that coffee or tea because we have another hour coming up. >> weird double covering. >> chairs should we will talk to the nato secretary general, andrew weissman, mary mccord and sam longwell. you follow -- be sure to follow our joe on social media. the handle everywhere is at the weekend on msnbc. we are back after this, folks.

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