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president biden meanwhile is in pennsylvania where he is pitching voters on his economic plan. >> when i look at the economy, i don't see through the eyes of mar-a-lago. i see through eyes of scranton. >> the roller coaster ride that is djt. >> when all is said and done, donald trump could end up with 65% of all the shares in his company. every single share, every dollar, is found money. >> the wnba draft was the hottest ticket in town last night. >> this is a dream. >> win or lose, we're growing the game. >> if you were outraged when you saw the salaries, if you think
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women deserve more, it's simple, buy the merchandise, watch the games, and go to games. good evening once again. i'm stephanie ruhle, and we are now 200 days away from election, and the deferences between the two candidates could not be more striking. it is the tale of two campaigns. president biden visiting key battleground states highlighting what he's accomplished and warning about the dangers if his opponent wins. and donald trump sitting in a new york city courtroom as a defendant. there's a lot to get to tonight. let's bring in alex and con that. former hhs secretary and former democratic congresswoman. scott is finally with us. >> i'm a virgin. >> he's a special correspondent for vanity fair and author.
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comedian, actor, and writer. she wrote the streamly amazing book. yes i can say that when they come for the comedians, we are all in trouble. there's a lot to cover. brian, monday, the real meat, the real business of trump's trial is going to start. is the media, is the nation ready for this. >> he may never actually see the inside of a prison cell, but this courtroom is his prison- he is stuck. he gets reprimanded while he's trying to stand up. what an incredible contrast to president biden who was showing his freedom i feel like this week. he was flaunting his freedom by going off and campaigning like a normal guy. >> let's talk about the trial and the jury. the jury selection happened much quicker than people thought.
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on monday, they were like this thing is going to take five weeks. bam, they're ready. but there was real concern about the safety and security of these jurors. do you think we should be reporting in such detail that this juror is a male and he works for an insurance company. all of this information, how does that serve the american public? because the judge certainly doesn't like it. if these jurors start to get more and more uncomfortable, there could be a real problem here. >> american journalism doesn't have that type of discipline. there's no way you're going to get anybody to agree not to describe the jurors. what we have to do is provide security for the jurors. listen, there were thousands of new york city police officers all over downtown. the least we can do is protect those jurors. so i wouldn't restrict journalism.
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i would say we have to provide security for those jurors. >> we know what's right and wrong, and we think about what serves the american people, what serves our audience, our readers. what do you think? >> you want to allow context. i think it's important we understand who these people are to the degree that it protects their anonymity, but you understand the area, the place of where they're coming, how well educated they are, what types of jobs they are holding down. it helps give a perspective of how they might weigh in on this. we have to wait for the whole trial to play out and see what happens with verdict and what they're doing during jury deliberations. i liked it at the beginning. i would like to now stop it. i don't think we need to know anything more about who these people are. my respect for them -- i mean, these jurors, guys, think about what they're sacrificing for this, what they're risking for
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this, and their lives will probably never be the same. >> i think it's such a sad state of affairs that jurors have to worry about their safety when they're doing their civil duty. it is so -- >> on a trial for the former president of the united states of america. >> but i think people are trying to apply pre-dump rules or norms. news rooms are trying to have thoughtful conversations about how to handle these questions. it's in open court, it's in open public, share what's happening in the courtroom. we live in an era where security reasons are very real. i want today go to the trump rally last weekend. i think it's important. my credential for the press was denied. >> why? >> i don't know. trump campaign wouldn't tell me. when i thought about going, a couple of friends of mine said you need to wear a disguise. last time i worked a trump rally, cnn sent me with a body guard. that's the environment these
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jurors are in today. i think sometimes news rooms are forgetting we're not in a pre-trump culture with different rules. we're in a different environment now. >> don't you think the fact the judge said it cannot be delayed, what you were saying about everyone thought it was going to take so long to pick these jurors, and today they tried to -- >> donna, let's talk about the split screen that brian referenced at the top of the hour. you've got donald trump sitting in a courtroom. i mean, trapped in a courtroom. a guy who never abides by anybody else's rules, and joe biden is out there on the campaign trail. do you think these two visuals, these side by sides are going to impact independents, undecided voters? >> well, i think it's cumulative. so it's this plus everything else that's going on. one thing i want to say about donald trump in the courtroom. remember, he's not a morning person. so he's got to get up earlier than he's ever gotten up before,
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and he doesn't sleep very well. >> and he doesn't have diet cokes. >> that's right. he doesn't. so it's more than he has to sit there all day. it's just that his body chemistry -- this is why he's going to nod off, he's going to fall asleep. it's more than just a contrast of him sitting there, sitting there really uncomfortable. and joe biden out on the campaign trail. you got to think about all these things added to go. >> he's already acting like a torture victim saying it's too cold in the courtroom. this is only week one. imagine week five or six. >> i don't think this is going to hurt him too much. if you think of what he does and says outside the courtroom, it's the same donald trump. he's been misaligned, this, that, and the other. it's the same thing he says when he goes out on the campaign trail. >> it's not necessarily about hurting him because the people who love him are going to stay loving him. what is he going to discover
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that's going to help him? because, remember, he lost the last presidential election, and while his base is loud, it is not currently big enough for him to become the next president. >> i can't even believe you're having to ask the question what will donald trump discover that helps him by being a criminal defendant in the court of law? my brain just blew for a second. honestly. it's a legit question. >> he's a victim. he loves being the victim. >> that's his rocket fuel. >> it reenforces the victim view. there's no question it reenforces this. but i have got to say, there will be -- everybody's going to be watching this. and so, we're going to pick off people that we didn't pick up before. >> i don't know. i disagree. because there's no cameras in the courtroom, i think only political junkys are paying
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attention. i worry it's not going to seep through to everybody else. for now, trump's voice is the dominant voice. he's the one shouting every day about this. >> this is my media question. i was talking about the split screen, but as i said it, i thought is there a split screen? all eyes are on trump. if this trial wasn't going on, we don't cover riz rallies anymore. every news truck in the greater new york area is sitting outside that courthouse, and i wonder how is that going to impact campaign coverage? >> i mean, maybe president biden should read the transcript of the court proceeding every night in front of viewers. somebody's going to have to. >> he has been using it a bit. i hope he takes this opportunity that he has, biden, to do something good and to express, look at me, i'm out on the campaign trail, because i'm not in a courtroom because i have committed crimes. >> but you're also talking about
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the national press. remember all politics is local, and he's going around the country getting local coverage, reaching out and talking to people. >> right. >> i think the only thing -- back to your original question on what will hurt him with independents will be a guilty vergt. up until then, no. >> here's the thing, lots of people are sort of assuming there will be a guilty verdict. it's been months and months, when is there going to be a trial. great, the trial's happening. that doesn't mean he's going to be found guilty, and if he's not, then what? >> oh, boy. i don't even want to think about that. >> then we have respect for democracy and for the democratic process. >> wow. >> do you think we're ready for that? >> that was such a responsible answer. i would never hear that from the far right media. >> i'm a college president. i got to be responsible here. >> think about this. this trial is happening in manhattan. donald trump, the boy from queens, spent his entire life
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trying to be the king of new york city, of manhattan. when you think about like new york city in the '80s, it's like donald trump coming out of a limo. how extraordinary is it? these two are never, ever getting back together. >> 150,000%. and -- oh, that's donald. >> who could this be? >> is that donald? >> luckily it's not a family member. they call and i'm like seriously? >> that's a devoted mom. i do it too. >> it's like he's wanted to be the cool guy from manhattan. and he's not. he is the criminal in manhattan. and i -- i hate to say it, but i love watching it. i love watching it. >> technically being judged by his peers. listen, i know ten people that fit all those descriptions of those jurors. i know ten people in manhattan. >> right. but how can you be unbiased?
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i just don't know how you can be a new york resident and be unbiased. >> well -- >> i think i could pull it off. >> really? >> i do. >> that's a challenging thing. if you really, religious -- really consider the news and you're looking for truth and fact and you oppose lies and -- >> the most interesting part of this case will be trump's defense. we all know the prosecution. we all know the arguments against trump, but how will he defend himself? >> i want to talk about something else as it relates to donald trump. we keep hearing he's in the worst position ever. he's losing on top of losing. but i want to talk about djt. we now track it every single day. listen, after the stock fell this week, it went back up. he stands to make billions of dollars on this stock that's been gifted to him if he keeps traffic flowing, he keeps the
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stock moving, he keeps it trading. this is extraordinary. brian, i don't know why you bought the stock, but you did. >> i did. i put in like $30,000. i sold it as soon as i made $100 profit because i was too petrified to own the shares. a few weeks ago, you could make an easy buck. now if you buy into the stock, you're going to suffer. this company is too sketchy. almost no one uses truth social. i think the stories of maga men putting their life savings into this company are downright sad. >> you know what, are they sad? hold on a minute. are they sad? >> you think they know what they're buying, right? >> listen to me, when you buy a stock, it is buyer beware. this stock, this company, is not fundamentally sound. it is a scam business. there is no other company like
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this that has gone public that's had no technology, no offerings, no management. there is nothing there. if people are choosing to take their money to buy into the maga dream, sorry boys and girls. >> i was part of the problem only for a day or two. now this week, it has rebounded a bit. is there a potential? >> why do you think it's rebounded? because he's in the news? >> there's a bunch of technical reasons. we'll see where this thing ultimately goes. but whether it's from trump's stock or trump's bibles or trump's sneakers, if there's a market for it and these people want to buy it, why would they be victims? >> it's remarkable for me the stock has not performed more successfully. where are the millions of trump loyalists buying these shares? they're not there. >> because they're not in the market.
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>> and you're seeing so few shares trade because real money managers, insurance companies, pension funds are not buying this stock because they have a fiduciary responsibility to their investors. they have to turn to their investors and say this is the reason i purchased this stock. i read the washington post story as well. donald trump has been a drifter in business for decades. he's gone bankrupt six times. so if you choose to buy this, we're supposed to feel bad for you? >> yes. >> why? >> well, you're talking about mom and pop. you're talking about people putting their life savings into something like this. you got to have some sympathy for people that are going to lose their pensions or whatever they're investing. >> i did donate by $100 profit
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to the community of journalists. my hands are clean. >> fine. >> look, michael ripped off lots of people. you know, the penny stocks, the -- all of these people that have deceived ordinary people by trying to sell them -- i've got to be simp thet ek to them. i want to tell them the facts and don't invest in this, but once they do, i just can't write them off. >> i'm not writing them off, but if you are going to buy a stock, it is incumbent upon you to do your research. the news is out there. when we come back, trump's far right allies are now saying the quiet part out loud. we will not be laughing in this segment. we're going to dig deep into the
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blueprint they've made for trump's second term and how it could completely alter our government as we know it. later, women are breaking serious boundaries. we are dishing on the -- and our girl taylor swift. hello, ghostbusters.
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this week, we started a deeper dive into project 2025 .
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get to know this thing. it's a 900-page play book from some of trump's closest allies laying out with a second trump presidency would look like from day one. here an example. conservatives should celebrate the greatest pro-family win in a generation. a decision that for five decades made a mockery of our constitution and facilitated the deaths of tens of millions of unborn children. during the clinton administration, you were secretary. project 2025 wants to gut it and rename it the department of life. you know exactly what this agency does, how important their work is. help us -- what is your take on this plan? how alarmed are you? >> well, i'm not very alarmed
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because most of the things that they're recommending have to be approved by congress. you can't change the name of a department. you can't eliminate a department. you can't eliminate a program without permission from congress because they set up departments, cabinet level departments. this one is scary because it's so outrageous. but have you heard about the american first policy institution? there's another one that's close to trump that has a bunch of people that worked in the white house that are also doing the same thing and before the election will probably have two or three more transition groups identified. will have two or three, four, maybe, and then the regular transition group will be put together and they'll all pile on and try to influence the ongoing transition. but this one is just crazy. it's the heritage foundation. >> but doesn't their intent worry you?
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>> absolutely, their intent. >> when you read these words, when you understand what they want to do. >> well, we know what they want to do. they want to destroy the government of the united states. that's what that small group in congress wants to do. do they worry me? sure they worry me. i want to point out there are other groups associated with trump. there's a lot of this going on, and when the regular transition group gets set up, usually after the election but sometimes they start before the election, that's what we're seeing now. but much of -- i read their report. much of it has to be approved by congress. >> all right. brian, i know you think about this. i know you care about this. when donald trump was president, he used to threaten that he wanted the revoke the licenses of broadcasters because he was unhappy with the news reports. >> right. >> how real is this threat if donald trump were to win? >> this came up on your show last night. of course i was watching. >> you want to be nice to me.
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>> we're watching here on cable. it's not licensed by the fcc. but nbc is, the parent company is licensed just like fox and abc. i think these threats are very real. i just finished writing a piece for the new republic, and trying to repeal fcc licenses is just the beginning when it comes to the media. i am more concerned about what you just described about this idea of a department of life and the warping of the term pro-life. emergency rooms are e fuse to treat pregnant women leading one to miscarry in a lobby bathroom. this is described as hospital afraid they might be providing something that's considered antiabortion laws. these stories should be national news. thankfully, thanks to the a.p.
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today, some are. but project 2025 wants to take that to another level. most americans when they hear about this stuff, they don't want it. isn't that the most important part? most americans don't -- >> but what about all the americans who don't hear about this stuff? most people have no idea what project 2025 is. it's stunning because these 900 pages are public. >> i look through and i think they're so organized as compared to 2015. they've learned from their mistakes and thinking, we're going to come into this thing organized and ready to go except what donna's saying, they're not ready to go because a lot of what they're putting forth is the reality they probably can't legally do when they say they're going to do. >> but they can influence is
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regular transition that's going to take place. they can put people in place that can change regulations, for example. it's their attitude and their goals that are scary because they're training people at the same time. they're training them in regulations, in how you change regulations, in how you deal with the bureaucracy. i mean, a lot of this is training individuals that will go into the administration as well. and this is scary. i do want to say something about emergency rooms. there's a case before the supreme court, it's the idaho case in which idaho, which has almost no abortion, is stopping people who have all sorts of medical problems with their pregnancy from coming into an emergency room. there's a federal law that makes it very clear that everyone that
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walks into an emergency room has to be treated, has to be stabilized no matter whether they have insurance or not or no matter what their status is, if they're undocumented, they can walk into an emergency room. that case is before the supreme court, and if the supreme court upholds that, that will affect every emergency room in the country whether or not you have abortion on your ballot or anything else or whether you really still are allowing legal abortions. >> judy, if you're the biden campaign, he's chalk full of campaign dollars, do you take the 900 pages of project 2025, do you take these cases in idaho and wallpaper them across the country to make people aware? >> 100%. you know, fear is so powerful.
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and that's what the republicans have always run on, fear they're going to take your guns away. they're going to take this away. and i -- we got to take something from their playbook. this is truly what is happening. and if biden doesn't talk about it and take this opportunity because most people are pro-choice, most -- and most women are pro-choice. >> even kari lake apparently this week. >> and also, i have to say as a free speech advocate, the assault on journalists, the putting our first amendment rights in this position, you know, trump wanted to investigate "saturday night live." it's ridiculous. this is just beyond the pal. and i just -- i do believe that the biden administration, as we were saying, you know, trump is in front of the courtroom or in
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front of the courthouse, go out and talk about this stuff. >> this is what kamala harris has been doing, and she's doing a smashing great job at doing it. she's going out across this country i and talking about abortion. >> but are people talking about it? >> she was promising four years of scorched earth when donald trump retakes the white house. >> then stay with me. you know who would and should detest scorched earth? fortune 500 ceos. if you're a major ceo, a major corporation, you want consistency, stability. so there's a lot of people right now who are scratching their heads because it seems like more and more business leaders are kind of open to trump. do you believe they're open to trump or really they just want to keep their heads down and their mouths shut because they don't want to make an enemy out of him if in fact he were to
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become president? >> heads down. they're in hiding. they're groundhogs. >> do you think, donna, that president biden isn't necessarily getting as much credit from the business community because he doesn't spend very much time with them? >> of course he's not getting enough time from the business community. but on some of these other issues, watch florida. we've got abortion on the ballot in florida. we've got a bipartisan coalition. our polls show that we have to get 60% of the vote. >> you think florida is winnable for the president? >> i don't know if it's winnable for the president, but i think we can win the abortion issue in florida. >> wow. love that. even is staying right here. when we return, women's hoops getting a jolt of excitement. but can it last long enough to get these ladies the pay they deserve? we're going to get to it when the 11th hour and night cap continue.
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a lot of people this week were outraged about caitlin clark's wnba salary, even the president weighed in. but there are some important details to consider. i do not believe this is about gender biased. this is about economics. and it's a great story because at this moment, there is great hope for the future of women and basketball. judy, you're a huge -- you're a basketball mom. >> i'm a basketball mom. >> you're a basketball fan. we're now four days out from the
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draft, from all this -- i'm going to call it misguided outrage of people comparing wnba pay and nba pay when it's beyond apples and oranges. do you see this as a great opportunity to actually change the game and change pay? >> 100 -- oh, i said 100% before. yes, 200%. and i spoke about this. my son plays college basketball, and we spoke about this. and i loved your article. it was so right on because when you look at -- the wnba is 27 years old. i was at the first game. >> the nba has a 50-year head start. >> if you look at where the nba was when it was 27 years old. >> the toilet. >> right. and now, we -- i mean, the amount of people who viewed -- the ratings went through the roof for the women's finals. we have social media now.
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they didn't have social media. we have these heroes. they are celebrities. it is purely an economic decision or -- you know, look, you work for one company that has $20 billion and another company that's got $500,000, sorry, the workers are going to get paid more at the -- >> yeah. the nba is going to bring in $13 billion this year. the wnba is not. >> but i'm hopeful. >> i want to talk about the outrage this week. i get how fans can look at this and they're mad. we saw experts on tv -- i saw pat mcafee say it's laughable what caitlin clark is getting paid. it doesn't matter how many people watched the draft. yes, it was 3 million. nobody's getting an extra dollar after the fact. it's about the next media contract and the great opportunity ahead. >> sounds like a white guy in that case that wanted to sound
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like an ally and say all the right things. you look at the ratings. 2.4 million viewers, that's quadruple last year. that kind of growth doesn't happen anywhere in this industry. you wonder how quickly can the pay catch up in order to -- >> right. donna, we're talking about fairness and pay, pro athletes, a lot of them come from colleges where they bring in huge dollars and they're not paid. you ran schools with major teams. miami, wisconsin, what's your take on student athletes getting paid? >> first of all, they're getting paid now in a different way in a wild west market. i would like to see some more discipline in that market because i would like more of them to get paid. but that's not gonna happen unless there's an antitrust exemption that we see congress pass. but student athletes at the
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major universities have always gotten paid. room, board, tuition, and a stepiened, and if they get pell grants, they get even more than that on top. but this new legal system allows some athletes to get millions and some athletes to get $1,000 a month. so i think getting some control over this to even it out, particularly for the olympic sports. i'm concerned not about football or men's basketball, but i'm concerned about women's tennis and women's soccer and all the other sports. but i do think it's economics on the -- >> for sure. >> on the women's basketball program. >> so we all should tune in and buy tickets. >> exactly. buy merch, go to the games. >> i with us the first ticket holder of the mystics. i bought a whole bunch of tickets for ahs secretaries.
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i think i bought 20 tickets, and everybody used them. we went to lots of games. >> it was so exciting at the beginning. >> but get the tv audiences -- >> and this is new for a whole generation. for them, this is season one. >> and basketball the way you're supposed to play basketball. >> i would also go to the nba and say put some money in this. >> the nba has been subsidizing the wnba for years and years. >> they could put some more money into it. you know what we did with usa soccer, we took the fifa money and divided it more evenly, and the men's players agreed with that so we could actually support the women's program, which was the much better program. >> i want to talk about another woman who's on top of her game. she just released her 11th album today. it's full of surprises, lots of
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songs about her exes, settling scores. i'm looking at you, kim kardashian. she's already breaking records. brian, with every release, it's clear. this woman's in charge. is taylor swift the most powerful person in music? >> yes. and maybe in all of media. she's burning so bright the past six months, i figured there would be a lot of backlash. we build people up just to watch them fall. there have been some critiques, but i love the album. few too many f bombs for my taste. my daughter's only six. going to have to find the clean version. but we have the cd and the vinyl coming tomorrow in the mail. >> when you think about music, even in the last month, two people have not just dominated music headlines, it's like every story, and it's beyonce and taylor swift. >> amazing. what are they calling it?
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the girl pop spring? i think it's great. she's a girl who obviously loves hard, sings hard, lives hard. >> works hard. >> oh, completely. expresses hard. i love listening to her. i think she puts it all out there. i'm glad she seems to be in a really happy place now because the songs about joe and matty are kind of sad, but yea, travis. >> and there's a thin line between caitlin clark and taylor swift and beyonce. >> what is it? >> it's the power of women. >> it's the power of women supporting women. you see beyonce at taylor swift's movie premier. gone are the days when people believed there couldn't be two powerful women. one had to take down the other. the support you're seeing from these icons, that is new, and it's really extraordinary. >> it's sisterhood at the highest level, and you wouldn't have seen it a generation ago. these are not queen bees.
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they're women -- >> i mean, a come from a period of time where if a female comedian was on a show, there would only be one. there's only one or -- and we never got to travel together. we never went on the road together. >> why? >> they would never put more than one woman on a show. >> oh. it was the token. >> if they put a woman on. and it was hell. it was hell. >> i'm just glad to be the only man here to balance out this. >> i was so disappointed by courtney love this week. she came out and saying taylor's not that special. >> she actually said she's not important. and what's stunning about that is check yourself, courtney love, everyone is. >> right. very true. >> but that's an old school approach. >> that's a queen bee. >> but they set up the system so they would be like, there's only room for one of you.
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>> we're going to take a quick break. before we do, i have a surprise i want to share with everybody. it's a music video i cannot get enough of, i have been watching it over and over even before taylor's release. watch this ♪ have you seen the news lately, the world's going so crazy ♪ ♪ we got so much here, can't we see, time won't wait for us to realize that our life is so good now ♪ ♪ let's not overanalyze 'cuz our life is so good, maybe open up your eyes, life is so good now ♪ >> not only -- not only was that fabulous, not only was that not taylor swift, it's our own alex. but, wait, i need you to know the name of the band. alex, give us the honor and tell
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us the name. >> okay. mrs. robinson. implies. i thought we were friends, okay? did you get that off like a vhs? i mean, come on. >> we're not just friends. we are sisters. all right. everybody is staying put. when we come back, it's my favorite part -- well, this was my favorite part -- it's time for mvps of the week. you don't want to misit with night cap continues. night cap continues. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain.
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it is time for our mvps of the week. who had a big one? >> so, look, i tried to be funny and creative because it's night cap, but i couldn't get past the trump jurors and everything that they have gone through to get to where they are and what we know lies ahead. i would probably say the trump jurors -- trump trial jurors for the next six weeks. i just think everything honestly that they are going to have to weigh and do, literally upholding democracy, upholding truth, upholding all these things. it's not going to be easy. >> donna. >> president of columbia university. she nails her testimony before congress. she did brilliantly before congress, and then she goes home and has to do a very painful act, and that is have her students arrested because they were disrupting the campus. she's really absolutely first
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rate leader. >> and she learned from harvard and penn. she learned from their mistakes because they were pretty profound. >> monday was tax day. not always the most pleasant day of the year. but you love mark cuban saying i'm paying 288 million to the federal government today. this country's done so much for me. i'm proud to pay my taxes every deal. his accountant emailed him. seeing his tweets made me feel a lot better. >> he also i believe said tag a president who doesn't pay his taxes. >> i love that. >> and he was right to say after military service, paying your taxes is the most patriotic thing you can do. >> so we have at least one corporate leader. >> a lot of corporate leaders pay their taxes, they just do everything humanly possible to get them whittled down to almost
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nothing. >> loopholes. >> well, i decided to be happy and pick someone -- a positive thing that happened this week, and that is mariska hargitay. so she was shooting, and she was in the middle of a scene with ice t. >> olivia benson. >> yeah. and a girl, a little girl walks over because she saw the badge and said, i can't find my mommy or -- i'm paraphrasing, and she stopped the shooting and went and found -- reunited the little girl with her mom. of course, i'm being a little judging like where the hell is the mom? oh, you let your kid just walk around the park. >> svu is celebrating 25 years. she is olivia benson. >> she is. i love that story.
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and she's so -- i mean, i've met her a few times, but she's so nice. >> she's extraordinary. my mvp is in the entertainment wellment as well. it's kevin bacon. you might not know why. 40 years after he taught high school kids that it is not a sin to dance, the star of foot loose is going back to where it all happened. listen to me, students at the high school in utah, they led a two-year campaign to convince kevin bacon to come back to their school, that included recreating scenes from the movie, raising money for his charity, and they did it just in time. the school is going to get torn down early next year, so this is going to be the last prom where foot loose was filmed. but the dancing will always live on. kevin bacon. alex, donna, brian, judy, thank you all. you are a fantastic friday night dates. for you at home, i wish you a
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very, very good night. remember, you can catch the night cap most fridays, which you did now, and saturdays at 11:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. for all our colleagues across the network of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me. i'll see you monday. i'll see you monday.
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