you have to keep reminding yourself how nondurable sometimes these views can be in terms of forming voteers opinion. >> what opinions get hardened, and the opinion that will get hardened is it'll be clear that donald trump wakes up every day fighting for his freedom and joe biden wakes up every day fighting for your freedom. that contrast regardless of results. you may not feel it now. what is donald trump going to do in the second term? more chaos like we saw in the first. he kind of has these empty promises when joe biden has shown what can happen when a president works hand on your behalf. >> that is all in on this friday night. alex wagner starts right now. >> that was a great block. you have yourself a great weekend. >> you too. >> over the past four days this week like in many other cities across the country, hundreds of

new yorkers reported for jury duty. these new yorkers discovered the defendant in the criminal case sitting before them was the former president donald trump. when the perspective jurors were initially asked if they could be impartial during the trial of donald trump many came forward and said they could not point-blank. those people were dismissed and got to go home. the ones that said they could remain fair and impartial they were then questioned further during what is called the voir dire process. at that point it came out more about these new yorkers. what they do for fun. one laughed saying his hobby was trying to find a wife. it's not working, ends -- end quote. another says he cleans his

local dog park twice a year, for medication. none of those people made the jury. one of the unfortunate consequences of this part of the jury selection process is that many identifiable details came out putting the anoninimity at risk. another potential juror was dismissed saying she has really bad anxiety and people have found out where i am. anxiety is completely understandable for a criminal trial of this historic magnitude there's a heightened level of intensity inside the courtroom and outside. donald trump has a history of

rileing up his followers has been attacking the justice system. he posted a video that wrongly attacked the jurors. >> this is a manhattan jury. it went 87% for biden. >> one said i don't think i can vote for trump. >> a video that donald trump posted. what vaughn was talking about the former juror number one the one that asked to be released from the trial because she said that what was written meant that she could no longer be

fair. defending donald trump's process is to under mine the judicial system. trump's lawyers tried to get an emergency state from an appeals court. argueing there's no possible way for trump to get a fair trial in manhattan. the response from the district attorney alvin braggs office was simple, what the last week has shown is the jury selection has worked. he continued, we have 18 ordinary new yorkers who are ready to serve. it would be unfair to them and the public for this trial to be delayed further end quote. the appeals court judge agreed and quickly rejected trump's request. right now the good news is amongst all the ruckus, the judicial system has not bent to trump's attacks. despite what he says, the system is working for the former president. just like it would for any other person. at the end of today a full jury, a 12 member jury with six

alternates was seated. donald trump's peers who may ultimately whether or not to convict him as a felon. after the jury was selected, the attention turned to what he might say under oath if he indeed chooses to take the stand. trump has previously indicated he plans to testify in this case and today he's sticking to that story. are you going to take the stand? >> yes. >> whether or not he will or not, we shall see. if a criminal defendant wishes to testify in their own defense. they are granted what is known as a sandoval notice which ensures that the defendant is aware of the lines of questioning the prosecution may ask. the purpose is to make sure the defendant is not caught off guard when testifying on the stand. some of the things the manhattan d. a east office are

the two civil trials that trump recently lost. the judge marchand said that he will decide which questions can be asked on monday. christian served in the manhattan district attorney's office. thank you for being with us. vaughn let's start with this sandoval hearing. donald trump says he will take the stand. it's not given that whatever the da says he wants to ask is going to be asked. so now the d.a. presents the judge with the lines of questioning and the judge determines? >> right. this afternoon the district attorney aoeufs --'s office made the case to the judge.

from the carol lawsuit. there was a couple of years ago trump filed a lawsuit against clinton and other defendants where he was fined for a frivolous lawsuit. they want to present to the jury these determinations to question the credibility of donald trump. is the district attorney's office argued today to the judge. they said, they're going to question the credibility from clinton to stormy daniels. we shall question the voracity of statements that donald trump makes. >> can i make one correction. it's not to let the defendant know the line of questioning it's to let the defendant what prior bad acts they're going ask ask him about. the other questions he's going

to be surprised about. but prior judgments or prior bad acts he needs to be made aware of that. >> they do not have to disclose things that are not about his prior bad acts. they can go with the line of questioning, but that he is done, they have to know about that. >> exactly. >> 12 years, 6 alternates. typically speaking a case does not guilty run out of jurors and alternates. as the pressure continues to be on these jurors and on their identitys become known, either because the media doesn't handled this well or for whatever reason, is there any concern that some full complement of jurors doesn't make it to this round of the trial? >> definitely, that's why the judge allowed the ultimate amount of alternates in the case unless it's a murder case. six. you already had one come back and say she can't handle it.

now there's a weekend. so the hope is the 12 that are seated will still remain strong and say that they said it's going to be impartial. they're ready to remain fair and impartial. the judge can and the court can do something about making the jurors feel more secure. i think in this case which was done in donald trump's federal trial, and it's going to take money. but they should be escorted to lunch as groups and they should be escorted home as groups. we're saying this because they all live in ma -- manhattan so

they're not far. you're protecting them during the weeks of the trial. >> those people who are not going to be jurors were dismissed quickly. what was your sense of it? you were sitting there watching it? >> donald trump's opportunity had the opportunity to go and use their challenges to eliminate several jurors, potential jurors they questioned. so don donald trump over the next six weeks is going to become very familiar with the faces of those 12 jurors and six alternates. when it comes to donald trump in the courtroom over the last year he's become very familiar. there has been a jury that has heard testimony from donald trump. granted it was three minutes of testimony. they did in january determined that $87 million penalty in the e.g carroll defamation case. so trump has had a new york

jury vote against him. with the pressure that are on these individuals we heard them during the veting process, several of them question i've heard from family and friends and colleagues who question am i a juror. identifying from everything from the neighborhood to their jobs to whether they're married or not. folks are going to become familiar of who these jurors are. for don donald trump it's out of his control. it's in the hands of his legal team unless he chooses to testify. >> let's talk about this business that donald trump is testifying. he maintains he's going to. is that good or bad for him and do you think that's going to happen? >> i don't think it will happen. i mean he has an absolute right to testify. unfortunately for his attorneys they have no control over him which is another reason he shouldn't testify. but if he does i think it'll be good for the prosecution case and bad for his case.

because he's out of control. and this judge will not let him sit there and pontificate. he will have to answer questions. and the judge could just shut him down if he's not following the rules. when i say shut him down, i mean you're off the stand. it's over. if he's not answering questions why? because there's a jury there. this is not like the civil fraud case where it was just a judge. there's a jury there and the judge will not allow there to be prejudicial information getting to the jury. >> there's already questions on whether or not donald trump is following the rules based on what he's been posting. yesterday the prosecution was supposed to tell the court who they're going to call to the stand on monday. yesterday they asked for the first three witness names. the prosecution said they didn't trust donald trump not to tweet those names so they said they will give the defense one name on sunday and quote if that should be tweeted, that's

the last time we will provide that courtesy. this seems to be a bit of back and forth between the trump defense team and the prosecutor. is the judge sounding in on this. >> yes, the judge when donald trump's attorney went to the judge looking for that request and the attorney said i can attest that my client, donald trump is not going to tweet on social media. and the judge said i don't nope if you we can trust your representation on behalf of your client. saying, we have all seen donald trump operating we don't flow if we can trust that. so what they have allowed is on monday the prosecution they said out of respect and difference for the legal team they will provide the name of the witness that will come forward on monday. a court will be appreciateed for pass over on monday. only go till 2:00 p.m. eastern so we're expecting the just, the initial questioning of this witness but then the cross-

examination will not begin until tuesday. >> how does that work, at one point the witnesses will be known. so what's the goal here and what's the thing, what's the assurance that the court has to have from donald trump about what hep will -- what he will do for witnesses. >> there's a gag order. which in my opinion he's been violating. and there's a hearing on that on tuesday. so typically, when you have a normal case, and you have a defendant who is not like donald trump you give over the witness list to the defense. and you announce tomorrow we're going to call mr. jones, mrs. smith and if there's time mrs. christian. so the defense will known. you do that as a courtesy so you can prepare their cross- examination. burr in this case, and the prosecutors right to do this, you don't want to do that with this particular defendant because you don't want him as they said tweeting about them. and intimidateing them before they take the stand. because they the same way we're

concerned about jurors being afraid to come to court, same thing will happen with witnesses. they don't want that to happen to them. because when donald trump tweets negatively about people his followers, some of them, tend to attack those people. >> it'll be an interesting few days to watch. thank you to both of you. we appreciate it. christian is a legal analyst. hilliard is an analyst. we appreciate your time. israeli strikes inside his country last night were toys like our children play with, end quote. we'll discuss the latest tensions in the region. it looks like the house will finally pass a foreign aid bill to help ukraine. the far left members are furious. will mike johnson survive the fall out? that's next. that not all dirt. you need dirt with the right kind of nutrients. look at this new organic soil from miracle-gro.

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after months of delay it looks like the house will finally pass much needed foreign aid for the embattle nation of ukraine. today the house voted 316-94 to allow for separate votes on bills to fund ukraine, israel and taiwan. it now looks like the house will pass each of those aid bills tomorrow or they'll certainly try to but the drama in house is far from over.

today the far right arizona congressman announced he would be joining his colleagues green and massey of kentucky in supporting a measure to oust the speaker johnson which is a so called motion to vacate. if all democrats vote together against the speaker mike johnson can only afford to lose two republican votes to lose his seat. and mike gallagher is expected to leave congress sometime after this weekend's vote which after the speaker johnson could only afford to lose a single vote. despite that razor thin margin, the speaker is projecting confidence he's going to stay on the job. >> are you worried about your job? >> i don't worry. i just do my job. >> is it time to just put the motion to vacate on the floor? >> we'll see what happens. i'm going to do my job. i'm not detered by threats. we're going to do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may. >> with three republicans now seemingly committed to ousting

johnson, the speaker will need help from democrats in order to stay in his job. so will any of them help him? today the house minority leader jeffreys kept reporters in suspense about what he and his caucus plan to do. >> at the appropriate time as house democrats we will have a conversation about how to deal with any hypothetical motion to vacate. green, massey and gosar are quite a group. are quite a group. and i'm sure that will play some role in our conversation. >> joining us now congressman hines and ranking member on the house intelligence committee. good to see you again, thank you for being with us. what a several months this has been. johnson is privy to be a

sensory to our adversaries. hep was a hold out himself. >> yeah, i think it did. i really think it did. and look, i don't think i agree with speaker johnson on anything political. but i will say that he, look he said two months ago we're going to pass the budget and we had a whole freak out whether there could be a shut down. he said we would pass 702 fisa which we did. and i think next is a supplemental. i don't agree with him on anything politically but he appears to do what he promises to do. and i like the way hakim put it. the absolutely most fringy members of congress. >> talk to me about the logic and some of the logic as i suppose as the election comes around, democrats can say the

business of america needs to be done and we support the business of america being done. on the other hand, mike johnson was, has been and continues to be an election denier, an ally of donald trumps. what's in it for republicans to help him? >> you know democrats. >> yes, what's in it for democrats. >> for us to be, and in fact, i think his promise may be more with republicans than democrats. we demonstrateed that we are the bipartisan party of getting stuff done. we got the bipartisan infrastructure law done after it was a joke for years and years. we got the inflation reduction act which you know caped insulin at $35 a month for diabetics. we showed that everything we

meant to accomplish we accomplished. the only reason anything got done in the past, was because the democrats were willing to work with a speaker who just as you said is ideologically everything we don't believe in. but you asked a political question, what's in it for us is to demonstrate time and time again that we're about getting things done for the american people not about partisan postureing or social media antics a la, marjory green. >> do you think about or worry about or care that if mike johnson disappears, someone less palatable shows up at his job? >> what we know for sure because we've seen this movie before, when kevin mccarthy was defenestrated. a period of chaos. it was three weeks in the case of mccarthy before mike johnson was finally voted in.

there is a tension, there is a tension here, right. it is not our job as democrats to save republicans from their manifest dysfunction. on the other hand, if you set aside our partisan interest which i think we regularly do, we are about delivering. we delivered the rule today. more democrats voted for a republican rule. this is unheard of. more democrats voted for a republican rule than democrats did. i think tomorrow we will be the margin of victory for aid to ukraine, israel and for the people of gaza. >> in order to do that to save mike johnson and what you said aid to ukraine, aid to taiwan, aid to israel. do democrats discuss now wanting more out of this deal, if it were a minority government in a parliamentary situation? is this going to be an a peace meal basis.

or is there going to be more discussion on mike johnson's team to say this is what going forward looks like for us. >> i think that conversation is inevitable. because tomorrow i think we will pass all these bills with a super majority. that's a whole other conversation. imagine a majoritarian body and when the vote happens on ukraine and israel you have a massive support. but to your question, yes. there's very little doubt in my mind that after these things pass, green or gosart or one of those guys is going to call for a motion to vacate. we won't have to deal with it tomorrow we'll deal with it when we come back. but yeah that's the moment when we say. when presumably speaker johnson goes to jeffries and says, look who knows if i'm going to keep my job. let's talk about what democrats can do to keep my job. and you labeled what it would

be. it would be a coalition government which by the way would be appalling to a lot of members of the majority. but guess what, you had a majority and you screwed it up. i think there's a conversation to be had there. obviously it'll be had with jeffries. i'm a pragnatist. if that means we get more done, that is something we should consider. >> thank you for your time. congressman jim himes of connecticut. thank you, sir. we have lots ahead this evening including the apparent double standard universities are applying to protests and thought. first iran is responding to israel's strike on the country overnight by denying that a strike happened at all. what that down playing means for raised fears of a wider war in the region, that's next.

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-- significance. iran's foreign minister said the strikes were more hraoeurbg -- were more like toys while other one dismissed it as fireworks. israel had notified the biden administration through multiple channels shortly before the attack but today secretary of state anthony blinken made clear the u.s. has not been involved in any offensive operations end quote and did not endorse the military action. this attack between israel and iran represent a level of escalation in a region that's already reeling from israel's ravageing war in gaza. yet the restrained rhetoric coming from both parties today and the limited scope of the responses so far also suggest that neither side is willing or ready for an all out war. joining me now is noga paulstine. it is great to see you if real

life. and we've been talking for a few years about this. this is not new or a post october 7 thing. you're steeped in the difficulties between israel. >> i think 30 years after he started on this line, israel confronts iranian weapons on almost all its borders, gaza, lebanon, syria. >> and yemen for that matter. >> and yemen, you're absolutely right. via the red sea. and for the first time ever during the history of this entire conflict which dates back to 1979, iran dared to directly attack israel with 350 drones and cruise missiles.

>> regardless of what happened that's a massive attack. >> absolutely. >> there are war, there's never been a day when there's been 350 projectiles that have gone into ukraine. >> it was absolutely a show of force for iran. a successful show of force. they overflew one of the holiest sites. it's a major attack and major show they can do it. i have to say it's also a failure for netanyahu who has said for the past three decades that he's mr. security. >> right. >> and he's the only guy who knows how to stand up to iran. and here israel is you know, absolutely under a barrage from iran. >> i've been reading that they're getting frustrated with netanyahu. but there's a feeling what's good for netanyahu is not

necessarily good for the peace of israelis. >> that's right. you and i have been talking about this for more than a year because when netanyahu returned to power in january 2023, basically and announced take over of the state institutions. a sort of judicial coup d'etat, the securities was the first to warn him. >> particularly with strong men type leaders who are otherwise in trouble like netanyahu is because he's in the midst of a criminal prosecution. they not only do they want to hold on to power but external attacks typically strengthen them. attacks on the country typically strengthen them. since last night, since last weekends since i have been covering this, they say that's

not necessarily what's about to happen or what's happening right now in israel. >> israel is an outliar. he was an unpopular prime minister and his popularity has crashed since. i think in part it is because he really sold himself to the israeli people as their security god. their savior, only i can do it. i can go through years of campaign slogans that show that. i want to add another aspect which is he also said he was i israel's mrs. security. that has crashed and burn. israel faces a level of critique internationally that will israelis are not accustomed to. i think israelis are seeing netanyahu as flailing in this situation. >> there's reporting from the wall street journal that we've not been able to confirm that the united states is floating an idea that if israel accepts a two state solution, something that benjamin netanyahu has not

only been against and has been elected on the basis from day one of standing against, if they were to accept that, the united states would arrangeing for saudi arabia to recognize israel and normalize relations which in theory would lead to other arab neighbors doing so. sounds like an interesting idea. any possibility of it being true or getting any traction? >> i think it's very likely true. i don't have 100% confirmation but in jerusalem people are operating as if that were an option on the table. the issue is the united states doesn't control what saudi arabia does, what the palestinians will do. i think it's possible with netanyahu although it puts him in a terrible, terrible corner. which may be what the biden administration wants to tie his hands. because he's promised israelis only he can bring peace with saudi arabia. saudi arabia is the hold up. the 60-year-old israeli, the

aspirations of that person's entire life has been to be accepted in the region. israel faced a boycott for most of its initial decades and wars from neighboring countries. so to be accepted by this behemoth would be huge. and for netanyahu to turn that down, would be very. >> that would be his legacy if that happens. noga thank you, we will continue this conversation in the morning. >> wonderful. >> you're in town so we're going to make sure we get our best use out of you. great to see you my friend. she's had decades covering the palestinian situation and israeli situation. thank you for making time. the university presidents decision to have more than 100 student protesters arrested is sparking a wider conversation about the state of free speech on school campuses here in america. we'll have that story next.

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protests were falsely labeling tabasum as a semite and asking not to allow her to speak. as she has written, the university has betrayed me and caveed to pressure. and the university said, this does not have to do anything with freedom of speech but to best keep university security. what exactly was the danger that tabasum pose? tabasum said she had not everyone started thinking about what she would say in her speech. even if she did speak on the

war, yesterday here in new york, the nypd arrested more than 100 students at the university calling for the university to divest its endownment from companies with ties to israel because of the war in gaza. the president asked for the nypd to intervene citing safety concerns. the police chief said that the students were peaceful, offered no resistance and were saying what they wanted to say in a peaceful manner, end quote. that's from the police. so why the crack down? for years, celebrating a right to protest has been integral to columbia university's brand. lee bolinger who served as

president from 2002 up to last year, he said the administration's decision to call the police on a vietnam protest in 1968 was a serious breech in the ethos of the university, end quote. in 2007, there was a similar encampment style protest set up in the very same area of columbia's campus, columbia's act then was to set up lights and invite them to camp inside to avoid the cold. columbia is the site of protests all the time but for some reason the school decided to crack on this one? why the change, why the double standard for this particular protest. the day before columbia president she was in washington, d.c. being questioned by republicans in congress about claims of anti semitism on campus as a group of jewish faculty at columbia

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we have already suspended 15 students from columbia. we have six on disciplinary probation. these are more disciplinary actions that have been taken probably in the last decade at columbia. >> what are the consequences in this case. >> i have five cases at this moment that have either been taken outs of the classroom or dismissed. >> is he one of those? >> he will, he will never work

at columbia again. >> columbia beats harvard and upenn. y'all have done something that they weren't able to do. you've been able to condemn anti semitism without using the phrase it depends on the context. >> columbia university president came prepared for tough questions about her handling of anti semitism on campus during a republican led hearing this week. she talked about expeling students and she committed to firing faculty members that have expressed about hamas. new york times opinion columnist goldburg explained the long term consequences of the actions at the university and in this week's hearing. in a piece titled republicans wanted a crack down on israel's critics. columbia obligeed. by bending over back ward of being agreeable, she came out

largely unscathed. all that has been damaged is columbia's guarantee of academic freedom, ends quote. joining me now is michelle goldburg. michelle good to have you here. this is a tough conversation because the stuff that we're talking about, the things that offend people in this conversation, are offensive. >> right. i mean, i think it's tough for two reasons. one there's been genuine incidents of both anti semitism and really kind of callus celebration of anti semitism in columbia as well as other universities. and has encouraged a really narrow reading of free speech in recent years. has said, you know talked about emotional harm and emotional safety and that impact matters more than intent. it was always some what obvious that eventually the right was going to take it and run with

it. also proisrael groups saying this language makes students feel unsafe. and they have a right not to be exposed to it. >> right. and the question is that, vibes are not in tune with what academic freedom needs to be in this country. >> especially because there's so much dispute over what anti semitism actually means. i think we all know that when a swastika is sprayed in a school bathroom this is anti semitism. when someone calls somebody a dirty jew, so much of this is what is the allowable or, what is acceptable criticism of a country that is currently in the middle of an extremely brutal war, subsidized by the united states. >> tough questions that journalists have to discuss and

universities have to discuss. there are a few places left that we can discuss this and universities are one of them. >> this pressure of universities to shut down certain viewpoints, right. i can't think of a precedent since the house on american. >> yeah. >> when you have college presidents being. >> asked about specific names of people who are professors. >> specific names, specific ideologys, specific courses. do you really want republicans in congress to be deciding where the line. >> and that's the issue. it's the same with my book club. there's books that may not be to your taste, they may have abhorrent.

but it's about the state being responsibility for banning them. we're hoping that universities are places where they do under take the physical safety of students, the absolute physical safety of students not how you feel. but if you are made to be uncomfortable as a student, you might be getting your moneys worth at university. >> again, i would go back and say that i think the left should have defended that principal more strongly in the ensuing years but that doesn't make it any less true. and so now you have this situation and it's not just kind of you know quote unquote snow flake students saying that students are entitled to emotional safety. it's these organs of the state. >> what happens to the presidents of penn and harvard i thought was awful the way that went down. i'm glad menusha gets to live to fight another day but it was a little uncomfortable hearing her sort of say the things those republicans in that congressional hearing, look she read the room better than the

other presidents did. >> i think she read the room but to the cost of her university. you have seen that they doubled the protests. >> even the police have said, these kids were doing nothing. >> this was remarkable. this is exactly the presidents of harvard and penn were trying to do. that the saying from the river to the sea were racist. this extreme level of discipline with extreme level that has not calm down the situation on campus. >> do you get a sense that the situation will improve any time soon. >> it certainly doesn't look like it. the protests continue going on.

people are talking about boycotting graduation ceremonies. she handled the hearing diplomaticly but i don't think she's handled the tensions on her campus well at all. >> michelle goldburg is an opinion columnist. that is our show for tonight. last july on the book club we featured a children's book. age appropriate was removed from bookshelfs in florida and texas and not only a year later, poncholi who is an openly gay indian man is facing again. time now for the last word with jonathan in for allie. >> i'm so glad you're going to be talking to