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is reporting that civil aviation's that had suspended flights this morning announced that flights are resuming in iran. the situation there is normal for aviation. currently, there are no restrictions on domestic and international flights at any of iran's airports. i want to go to jerusalem now, where nbc news chief correspondent, richard engel is standing by. it is mourning in jerusalem, it is morning in tehran, and richard, you made an interesting point here, that you do not have air sirens in jerusalem, very unlike last saturday. you do not have guidance, from home defense in israel for people to seek shelter, and the iranian are talking about how it is business as usual. there seems to be some effort to telegraph, for both countries, that, perhaps this is not the thing that is going to set us on the brink of a major regional war? >> reporter: well, i can tell

you, just looking where i am right now in jerusalem, i see buses moving down the street, people, normal foot traffic, no sense of panic here at all. no new instructions from the israeli military or government to behave any differently than normal, and all across iranian television, and iranian state news agencies, they are either done playing what happened, or outright rejecting it. some say a few drones were fired, but that they were destroyed, other reports do acknowledge that there was a strike on an airbase, but that it was not of a major impact, some air defense systems did go off in isfahan, a city in central iran home to a major airbase, also a nuclear site, but iranian tv has been putting out images of the area around the nuclear site, which is a

mountainside that appeared to show it quite normal. no activity there, no fires, no smoke, and pictures coming right from the center of showing traffic flowing is normal. so, there does seem to be an effort, certainly, from iran to downplay this, either acknowledging it in a slightly, off the record, or -- projecting to the people that they should proceed, life is normal, impact here, with a source telling nbc news that israel did carry out a limited strike against iran, but is carrying out a damage assessment, but so far this is not-- does not appear to be that trigger moment that was going to send the region over the edge into a regional war that so many people had been fearing. iran had been talking about an immediate, ferocious response to any kind of attack on it territory, that statement

coming just yesterday, from the iranian president, but so far, at this stage, with what appears to be quite a limited strike that israel has said is still carrying out a battle damage assessment, so far there seems to be an effort to contain public opinion and not have this escalate any further. >> so, richard, here's the big question, why? iran uses very flowery language, sometimes it is just a translation from farsi into english, but what it wishes to do to israel sometimes and what will happen if israel does anything, and as you said, a statement from the prime minister in the foreign minister has, prior to this attack. why would they be doing that? is this in pursuit of the idea that, okay, iran attacked this diplomatic mission in-- i'm sorry, israel attacked this diplomatic mission of iranians in damascus, killed someone last weekend. israel showed iran-- iran

showed israel its response and now israel is doing what it needs to do, and maybe district stop here? >> i think this is all about last links. who gets to have the final shot and say that they were the ones who backed away from the brink? and this did not happen in a vacuum. so, as you mentioned, just about two weeks ago, april 1st, israel carried out that strike on the iranian embassy facility in damascus, right in the center of damascus. a surgical strike, blowing up the consular annex in the middle of the city, killing at least 12 people, seven of them, iranian revolutionary guards, two of them quite senior. one from theforce, which carries out operations, primarily in the center of

damascus. israel responded-- iran then responded with the attack that we all saw over the weekend, firing more than 300 drones, primarily, but also missiles, nearly all shut down, and it caused almost no damage in this country. after that there has been tremendous activity with president biden personally calling minister, benjamin not netanyahu telling him to take the win meeting that iran-- israel carried out at attack and then stopped the iranian response. arab countries, including arab countries, allied to israel, have made it clear they did not want to see an escalation, they did not what their airspace to be used for escalation there has been a lot of back-and- forth a lot of messages being sent to both sides, and it

seems that, perhaps those messages were effective, that israel felt that it needed to carry out a strike, and we were told this over the last days, that there were meetings, acrimonious at times, within the security cabinet, that israel wanted to carry out something. that it couldn't leave an unprecedented attack by iran, a response to israel's initial strike on the diplomatic facility, but that it couldn't leave the strike against israel unanswered, but it was trying to calibrate it in such a way that it wouldn't trigger a war and that the americans would be in formed and that it would be coordinated, and u.s. officials to confirm to nbc news that they did get a heads up about this attack before it happened. so, it may have been that israel is keeping its word, at least on that element, that it would coordinate with the united states and it would carry out a limited strike, with the objective of not trying to provoke a regional war.

and, perhaps the most surprising part of all of this is that, so far, in the media hours after this attack, the run very much is downplaying it, and, in fact, telling large segments of its population through official media that nothing happened, and that what did happen, what people may have heard, were limited air defenses that knocked down small drones. >> richard, as always, we rely on your reporting and urinalysis, thank you, my friend, richard engel for us in jerusalem. united dates embassy in jerusalem has this morning advised employees and family members not to travel outside of the greater tel aviv, jerusalem areas, until further notice. joining us now is the nbc news white house correspondent, mike, who is standing by to get some sense of analysis or feedback from the white house. we are unclear, as of now, mike , as to what the white house new, how much they were told,

versus how much they were consulted on this matter. we do know that the white house had asked israel not to retaliate. so, where do we stand this morning? >> well, it is interesting, in moments like this, highly sensitive, dynamic situations like this, there are times when we are working our sources, we are reaching out to officials, or we just don't get a response at all, which speaks to the kinetic nature of it, and then there are times when we hear from our sources, frankly, that there will likely not be a response. tonight is one of the later nights, which i think speaks to the rather restrained response from the part of the white house, but when you add to that what we are hearing from richard, what we are hearing from matt bradley and others, that there is coming these very early hours, a sense that there is downplaying across the board of what happened so far, in terms of israel's potential response. i think it speaks to something that we heard earlier today, from the cia director, bill burns, this is the most recent

public comment that we have had from any senior u.s. official, and he was speaking at an event in dallas, the george w. bush presidential center. at first he her referred to iran's attack over the weekend as a spectacular failure. he said it spoke to the high quality of the israeli military, but also to the fact that israel has a lot of friends. we know, of course, the role of u.s. and some of our other regional allies played in deterring, and making sure that those attacks were not successful in getting into an israeli airspace. but it also was notable that he said, we know at this moment that israel is considering how to respond, and the bright hope within the administration is that there is a moment to de- escalate the situation. the message from the white house, from the president directly to prime minister, benjamin netanyahu over the weekend was take the win. you have shown your strength here in this moment and not risk any further escalation. you could look at what israel has potentially done here tonight as a moment, where iran's attack, to quote bill

burns, a spectacular failure, they have demonstrated that they can attack within iranian territory. if it is limited to that, then there would be a sign, potentially for both sides to step back from a escalation. that would certainly be the help of the biden administration at this point. we are at this point though, where we know the president came back directly from the campaign trail. went straight into the west wing, would likely have wanted to hear from his national security advisor, jake sullivan, about the direct conversations he had in a formal setting with his israeli counterpart, with ron dermer, another senior israeli cabinet official, in which they were going to be potentially reading out the options. but we have not heard beyond that speaks to the likelihood that they want this situation to play out, to not escalate or further in the situation, giving it a greater import than it appears to have at this point. >> mike, i want to ask you

something, it was reported to the wall street journal earlier today, before we knew that this was going to happen, and it suggested that the white house is asking israel to accept a two state solution, and in exchange for doing so, saudi arabia will accept and normalize relations with israel, which is important to israel. to achieve. now, i don't know when this moment, whether that is important to netnyahu, but it sounds like that was a different track u.s. is going down, they were saying let's end this an entirely different way could you give palestinians recognition as a state, and we will start and normalize relations with people around you. for a good six hours i felt hopeful that something positive was happening in this space. then i see this relatively limited attack and i wonder, whether this is all connected, that israel does what it feels

it needed to do, but not in a way that was going to explode the situation beyond where it already is. >> it is so interesting you referenced that reporting from the journal, allie, because i am thinking back to just my recent travel with the president in india, in september, before, of course, it took that horrific attack by hamas into israel. the highest levels of the biden administration was talking and very optimistic language about serious progress they felt, toward a game changer in the middle east. the potential for that kind of recognition for israel, by some of its neighbors in the region, who obviously have not had the relations with israel, directly. in return for exactly that. the president's one goal of finally seeing through a two state solution, in which some of our partners in the region up to play a major role. that was something that was-- the administrator felt very confident about, because of some of the economic deals that

were announced at the g20 summit, with president biden there in india, just a few months ago. obviously, it seemed that october 7th changed all that, but president biden, having covered him so long, allie, you know, he is the eternal optimist. he has often talked about trying to find the positives in any situation, and i think he sees in this crisis atmosphere, an opportunity to potentially drive those conversations, with even greater urgency moving forward, and so, the pressure that the u.s. has been putting on israel to be very thoughtful, to be very restrained in its actions speaks to the conversations he has also and other officials of the of ministration were supposed to travel to saudi arabia recently were to cancel that, because of an injury, a rib injury of all things. but there were these continued conversations, parallel tracks to what was obviously the serious urgency of this situation. it is still a top priority, of course, allie, for us to get those hostages released, including those american hostages, but this is certainly something that the president

will not be giving up on and potentially might see to advance that goal. >> let us know if you hear anything, on with us, mike memoli, joining us now is nbc military analyst, the retired four start army general, billy mccaffrey, a decorated combat veteran of vietnam, a former battlefield commander in the persian gulf, a former cabinet minister, and a former cabinet member and a former member of the national security council. general, it is good to see you. i think we need a little historical context here, let's go all the way back to 1914 on an obscure streetcorner that seems like an isolated incident in world war i. the word here is that somebody miscalculate somewhere, and you have iran, which has allied with china and russia, and syria, and you have israel, which has allied with the western countries and you

have the arab countries somewhere in the middle and we end up in a really, really bad situation. >> well, i think that is an excellent historical connection to make. july 1914, and a world dragged into one of the bloodiest conflict in history, it could turn out, obviously, that that idf strike on the damascus embassy in iran, that killed senior quds leaders, a dozen of them killed, it could ignite a similar, widespread regional war in the middle east. i must admit though, i am enormously encouraged by richard engel reporting on the ground, which i have been trying to follow on google, with al jazeera, and the iranian press, they are clearly playing down the israeli impact, denying it even occurred, minimizing it import. so, tomorrow, what we will

hopefully he is the iranian foreign minister walking back is massively belligerent language, which said that any israeli strike on iran would be met by an unbounded response. iran does have significant military capability. they are pushing 3000 some odd ballistic missiles. they have a very weak defensive system even the aircraft missiles. so, if they go at it again, israel will, in my judgment make a massive strike on strategic targets in iran. neither side wants that, maybe we are seeing a glimmer of hope , is it going to step back from the precipice here. >> in fact, just confirming we had some reporting a little while ago, nbc's tehran producer saying several

organizations that had separate suspended flight from iran announced that flights have resumed, the situation is normal, no restrictions on domestic or international flights, richard engel saying no movement on iran, other than those by the u.s. embassy and personnel. you said something a couple of hours ago, barry, that i caught, and it was talking about taking over those commanders in damascus. and you are saying israel is good at this. israel can assassinate people around the world. ronan bergman has talked about some of the most strategic assassinations that israel has undertaken, but that does not take up capability. he was a brilliant strategist who he took out and that probably did affect the revolutionary guard in its operations, in syria a lot. but this is and that. so, everything that has happened in the last few weeks has not been what you would normally see, between two countries who are looking to go to war with one another. >> by the way, the murder of general solo money on the back

that airport i thought was a very bad judgment also. again, when you kill these generals, you get a provocative response. you invite retaliation, you don't affect, necessarily, their capabilities these generals get replaced in two hours. what you have to do, if you want to degrade your command- and-control camargo after the system, the notes. so, i think the israeli strike on the iranian embassy in damascus was a mistake. i felt the same way about the u.s. attack on solomon he, but again, back to the major point, iran had a huge capability to attack with ballistic missiles. the israeli cities and military capability. the idf, as a world-class air force with f-35 aircraft that could penetrate the iranian air defenses easily, and take up

strategic targets, meaning their nuclear capability. so, it doesn't make much sense, from a national security viewpoint, for either israel or iran want to go unbounded, but tomorrow we have got to hope that u.s. and regional diplomacy walks back the iranian foreign minister's remarks today. and ends this thing where it is. and indeed, maybe get some kind of a dialogue going to reduce what really is a critical crisis. >> i have to ask you something that the cia director said at a speech in dallas, in which he called the iranian attack a spectacular failure. everyone knows what iron dome is capable of, what david's sling is capable of, what the arrow defense systems are capable of, and the fact that iran, israel works with the cooperation of the united states, the united kingdom,

even jordan in this particular case, was it a spectacular failure? or was it, by design, not meant to kill anybody? >> well, i tell you, i have really been amused by the notion that it was telegraphed, slow-motion, a political signal. those 120 ballistic missiles have a gigantic warhead. they've got a 12 minute flying time, from iran to israel. they were intended to knock out f-35 fighter-- stealth fighters in the desert and to attack military targets and cause significant casualties. it is astonishing they didn't. by the way, a good piece of that was u.s. navy and air force , with air to air and missile defense destroyers in the region. also assisted by the brits, the french, the jordanians and possibly the saudi's, but i think all of us were astonished that it was so successful. you can't play that game too many more times without seeing

significant damage. and again, the iranian foreign minister, talking about if the israelis had any attack on iran they would go with a massive retaliation, so, pretty good indications now that the iranians have rethought this and want to step off the escalation letter. >> general, good to see you as always, thank you for your analysis. the retired four-star united states general, terry mccaffrey, more on this after the break.

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>> our breaking news coverage continues on msnbc, we have new video showing the airstrikes that israel carried out inside of iran tonight. near the city of isfahan. these are believed to have been near or adjacent to a military base, an airbase in isfahan, there is a nuclear base in isfahan. it does not appear the nuclear facility has been targeted, but again, information is very raw and new, so we don't know. it is just daytime in iran, and we are hoping to get some reports as soon as there is daylight out there, but the national security report, dan joins me now. and the problem, dan, we have conflicting information. we sort of believe that the israelis are sort of saying there was an attack.

the iranians are sort of saying there was an attack and every body seems to be downplaying the whole operation, what you believe you know? >> you know, i think that is the key here, ali, the language being used on all sizes fairly restrained. and very limited. and it is early, it is fluid, but that might be a cause for some cautious optimism that this situation is not going to spiral and escalate dramatically, but it is still-- we are still in the early moments here, but the fact that, now several hours have passed, if you don't hear the iranian government saying that there are casualties, that there is terribly a large-scale attack that has been conducted, and you don't hear israel boasting about some kind of large-scale attack, either they are describing it as a limited operation, and we are just see this video now for the first time, it doesn't tell us a lot, right? so, it may be quite limited, quite small-scale, in which case, that might leave

breathing room for iran to sort of save face and not escalate and take some more drastic action. but we don't know, and we will have to wait to hear more. >> i ask you this, particularly, dan, because you operate in circles where you are constantly talking to people who are analyst, and who really understand the place well. these places well. it is out of character for iran to, certainly, the post 2018 iran, after we got out of the nuclear deal, after iran had any interest in appeasing united dates, it is uncharacteristic for them to not have very strong responses to all of this stuff, but after last saturday polsky attacks, they signaled that was our attack in retaliation for the attack on the diplomatic compound in damascus, and as far as we are concerned, this is done, unless israel does something else that is awfully provocative, and then we spent a week hearing israel-- the israelis were

having arguments about it, but they were trying to come up with a plan that would result in no civilian casualties. so, talk to me about this, it is a very unusual way of waging war between two long-standing belligerents. >> it is. it is extraordinary, and part of it is iran has always chosen to confront israel indirectly. so, that is what made last saturday so unusual. they actually directly launched an attack, a military operation against israel, overtly. right? they have always preferred to take on israel indirectly, through their proxy groups. through their partners and allies that they arm and train, whether it is hezbollah and lebanon, hamas in gaza, the lucy forces in yemen, and so forth. and this was a case, where they felt they had to act directly against israel, and i think iran, as belligerent as they consent sometimes in their rhetoric ended their actions,

they are aware that a direct, full-blown war, with israel would be very difficult, and they would possibly be overmatched. israel's military is much more capable, and we saw that, to some degree last week, right? when they launched more than 300 drones and missiles at israel, and almost none of them struck. most of them were shot down, with some help from the u.s., the brits and others, but i think iran is definitely trying to calibrate their response, at least they think they are. and then, of course, israel believes that they are calibrating their response, but course, in these kinds of very perilous situations, as you know, throughout history, sometimes the message you try to send isn't received the way you intended it. >> the way you meant it to. that is exactly right. >> that is what we are all waiting for. >> everybody is trying, at least they think they are being

measured, but it is kind of amazing to the rest of us, when we hear about rockets and missiles and things like that. it doesn't seem like measured responses, but this may be the iranian-israeli version of measured responses. dan, i always rely so heavily on your analysis, thank you for being with us tonight, dan deluce, joining us now is robert curry, investigator and journalism at the university of beirut. i want to go to 50,000 feet on this, and discuss a number of things that have been in play in the last week or so. number one, the americans had a firm conversation, with israel, and said, don't do this. don't-- don't retaliate in any meaningful way. number two, there is reporting that we do not have, but the wall street journal has, that says that america has said to israel, if you recognize the palestinian state and accept a two state solution, we will reward you by giving you normalized relations with saudi arabia, which could be followed by other normalization with

arab neighbors. and that is attack happens tonight. i'm thinking, given what dan just said, this might be what you would consider a measured response. that all of this might be playing out in the background. the pressure by the united states to say, do not get us into world war iii. >> just a correction, i studied with the american university of beirut. the impression i went for about 30 years now. from the early 70s to today, i have reported that on them at least, and i lived in lebanon and hezbollah and hamas people. i have been to iran-- i have been so many places around the middle east. my impression, from this long experiences that, most of the american establishment and analysis of the middle east is incomplete. and imprecise. and i would say that, unlike

the financial market advertisers, past performance, past performance is an indicator of future outcomes. in other words, you can estimate, pretty clearly, what the israelis and the americans and hezbollah and iran, and syria, what they are all going to do, because they have done it all in the past. we know very well how they will behave, we know their constraints, we know their motivations. therefore, there isn't as much in precision and ambiguity about people's intentions, as i am hearing of the american media. i am a little bit surprised. and i think this is a problem with insufficient on the ground, constant interaction him and of course having difficulty interacting with planners, the iranians, hezbollah, hamas, and other people like that. so, my reaction to all of this is that the iranians and israelis have made it abundantly clear that they are

perfectly happy to do it for tat actions, they are happy to have their proxies, friends and allies for each other, they don't want a regional war, they will avoided at all costs. i was in lebanon in 2006, with that or happened with hezbollah, the massive destruction, the displacement of people on both sides was so enormous that they want to avoid it. in the next war is going to be much, much worse. so, what you have here is i think, we need more emphasis, which i am not seeing in the american media, really, to any significant extent. more analysis of the actual real situation of israel. you know, everybody says it has got this capabilities, which it does. it also has an american legal pledge from congress, an act of congress, that the u.s. guarantees that israel will always be militarily stronger than any combination of its foes, which includes iran. that is american law. so, there the israelis have no

problem. they know they are going to be supported, as the americans supported them recently, but we also need to look at is, is israel really as powerful as people say it is? it could not have defended itself without these other countries helping of last week? it cannot fight hezbollah and hamas and iran and syria all at the same time. it is unlikely it can do that. it hasn't achieved its main goals in gaza. and it is really on the verge of being a pariah nation, because most people around the world, the majority of people and most governments and many people in the west are asking for an immediate cease-fire in gaza, so that they can resolve this problem, politically. so, i don't think the israeli position is quite as strong as it is made out to be, but this is their pr approach, very successful. so, we need to look deeper at how the years iranians and

israelis have acted in the past, that will give us a good idea. they don't want a full-scale-- and they also have a legitimate grievances that can be resolved politically. they are not irrational actors. they have legitimate grievances. the central element in this question, which hasn't been mentioned much in the coverage i have watched on many american tv stations is this question of palestine, because this really started with gaza. >> palestine is off the table at the moment, but that is netnyahu's whole thing, he's been doing that for 15 years. the questions of palestine in the minds of israelis is off the table, because the question of iran was central. benjamin netanyahu exists politically, because of the threat of iran, this has, for better or worse, played into his hands. >> yes, iran and hezbollah. you mentioned 1914, i thought that was really brilliant.

you go one more year to 1950, so that is when britt, the great colonial deceivers and double-faced actors, as colonial powers all are, in 1916, brits were making deals with the arabs to give them independence after world war i, making deals with the zionist to give them a state, and double talking everybody. and they created the core issue that created the arab-israeli conflict, the palestine-zionist conflict. that was about that time period. so, these historical issues are really strong and have to be addressed. >> you are 100% right, that's what we should be doing the next few days, giving people a lot of historical context as to why things are the way they are. rami khouri thank you to you, and congratulations to the new head of global engagement for the american university of beirut and we will make sure that we fix that, rami khouri, from the american university of beirut. we are coming back right after this break, with more

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palestinian civilians, those who are dead, the attack on rough and hostages has taken a far back the to every thing else. >> right, and the middle east is always going to be a lot more dangerous for everybody, while this work continues. the best way to cool things between israel and iran over a longer term, and for that matter, to end the houthis attacks on yemen, and proxies of iran on american forces . could all get a cease-fire, and what worries me is this escalation between iran and israel seems to is made that cease-fire harder to get. >> although, prior to that attack today we have been talking about that reporting in the wall street journal about america proposing israel recognize a two state solution

and in response to that america would organize recognition by saudi arabia of israel, and one assumes that if they normalize relations in israel, other countries in the region would follow, what you make of that? >> if the biden administration could get the israelis-- the israeli government to support a palestinian state and do something to show that it was serious about it, yes, i think that would be a big deal. the problem is that i think israel's government would probably fall if benjamin netnyahu tried to do this. netnyahu, kind of a career long hostility to palestinian statehood, the far right parties and his government are even more emphatically opposed to a palestinian state. and netnyahu has posed himself as the guy who is in office to prevent the creation of a palestinian state, so it is an appealing idea, but i'm not sure biden will be able to get this israeli government go for it.

>> what you make of how this is unfolding tonight? this-- we have been very worried about this, we were very worried last weekend when the attacks came in to israel about the escalation, about the danger to life. we didn't see that last weekend, despite the hundreds of incoming drones and missiles that went in, and it looks like we may not see this in iran this morning. it looks like this was surgical , it was meant to target what may be a military institution, not the nuclear site in isfahan, what you make of how this is playing out? two countries, two belligerent countries, spending a lot of money firing at each other, with the aim of not killing too many people apparently. >> it is really kind of bizarre, isn't it? it is basically these terrifying military exchanges, but both are all kind of meant, in a way, to signal that it is not to escalate.

i think, if we are lucky, we will find that the biden administration was able to put pressure on israel, work with israel, too-- and somehow maybe even alert iran, such that this will be minimal enough that iran wouldn't feel so humiliated it has to respond again. if that is the case, we will be very, very lucky. for now, i think the problem is though, as we were saying earlier, as long as the war in gaza continues, there is always the possibility that we could go back to the brink. >> peter, thank you. i will take optimism tonight, we haven't had much of that in the last several months. i will take any little bit of it i can find. peter beinart. our life, breaking news coverage continues after this. . no other mattress cradles your body and simultaneously supports your spine. memory foam doesn't come close. get your best sleep guaranteed right now! save up to $400. visit purple.com or a store near you. old spice gentleman's super hydration body wash.

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if people only knew that it really is about the dirt. you're a dirt nerd. huge dirt nerd. i'm proud of it! [ryan laughs] joining us now is a retired united dates army colonel, jack jacobs, who received the medal of honor for, actions in vietnam. he is married -- he is a military analyst and we are spending time together with students from the military academy, west point, talking about this, how this happens, when breaking news occurs in the analysis we get. i'm here to ask you these things. we have been watching for the last few hours, trying to determine if this is a major escalation in the region that is on the brink of a very serious war, or perhaps not an increasingly, analysts are

suggesting not, this is a calculated attempt for israel to satisfy the folks in israel who needed to see a response to last week without escalating. >> it's a limited objective in the attack and i think we have to assume that's it from israel for the time being. perhaps they are just trying to see whether or not iran is going to respond, but this is something to keep in mind, actually. the first, has bulla -- hezbollah and other proxies, it's possible that iran will not respond, in any way, directly but will unleash hezbollah , who is extremely dangerous in the southern port of lebanon. israel pulled quite a few troops out of gaza, at least partially, to reinforce the northern flank. they are very

much concerned that with or without an iranian response, that hezbollah will attack and it remains to be seen whether or not iran will ask them to attack israel in some force. the second thing to keep in mind is something we have been talking about most of the hour, and that is the notion or question of gaza. israel has few people left in gaza. israel has been in gaza before, trying to administer, it did not like it and left. they need the assistance, the gazans and the israelis need the assistance of the arab countries in the region, to do anything about tamping anything down. economically, it can't stand.

they've got 300 reservists in uniform in gaza. that won't work. it's entirely possible that we could see nothing at all and this is it. >> this target, the targets in iran, they have a military base in an ancient, remarkable city. everybody has said, the nuclear facility was not targeted. they can confirm no damage, the director general tends to call first-rate from anyone -- at 100 nuclear facilities should not be a target military conflict. it's not attempt, to target

their capabilities. >> the last facility i can remember was in iraq. after that, israel was mightily empowered and would like to have attacked the nuclear facilities, in iran, but were dissuaded from doing so by the united states. they were told, don't do it, and they have not. they have regretted that over a long period of time, but at the end of the day, israel has almost undoubtedly not been attacking any of those facilities and they do not need united states to tell them not to. >> good to see you, thank you. it's been a long day. appreciate it. colonel jack jacobs. live coverage continues after this break. .

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