kind of understand why it is taking so long. but, obviously, a lot of people want this to happen before the election in order for those two factor that into the decision. that is clearly not but this judge is contemplating and i don't know if that is necessarily inappropriate because that is not relevant to the criminal part of it. for many people, this is going to slow. i am just trying to watch it as a matter of law to understand what is happening and eventually we will find out. ou. that is our show for tonight. notice time for the last word with katie thing. evening, katie. >> alex, we just got some craziness. you know how everyone has been saying 500 people got notices to appear monday for donald trump's first criminal trial,

nbc news getting some reporting that 6000 jurors will be subpoenaed from manhattan criminal court. more than 1500 for monday, now, this is not just for trump's trial, but because a lot of people don't report for jury duty they are still saying that they think 500 will appear on any given day, so think about that. >> casting a wide net in this city of hours, katie. >> wow. >> it is going to be an interesting process, which we will be covering in detail next week. >> thanks, alex, i appreciate everything. >> have a great show. >> thanks. donald trump's last ditch effort to avoid accountability tonight. bi trump will appear in court on monday as we just talked about with alex, as jury selection gets underway in the first criminal trial against a former president in the history of the united states. in the first of his four criminal cases and four just

different jurisdictions, donald trump is charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to hide hush money payments that he made to cover up affairs, and that he had ahead of the 2016 election. today, the judge denied trump his wish of delaying the start of his criminal trial. trump sought indefinite adjournment for pretrial publicity. not buying it, ruling quote, the remedy the defendant seeks is an indefinite adjournment, this is not tenable. he was personally responsible for generating much, if not most of the surrounding publicity with his public statements, which were often made just a few steps outside the courtroom where the proceedings were being conducted. and with his unrelenting remedi postsel attacking those he perceived to be responsible for his client. donald trump, again, attacking the judge, and the trial today, while claiming that he planned to testify, which means he

would face the choice of truthfully answering questions about his encounter with adult film star, stormy daniels, or perjury herself. >> yeah, i would testify, absolutely. lu i tell the truth. >> trump, at his florida club today, claiming that he had an out election integrity announcement. el election integrity. let's be clear, three of the four criminal indictments against donald trump are tied to election interference. judge mershon summed up the allegations against trump this way, the jury questionnaire. quote, the allegations are, in substance, that donald trump falsifying business records to conceal an agreement with others to unlawfully influence the 2016 presidential election. and both the federal criminal case in washington, d.c. and to the state criminal case in

fulton county, georgia, center around donald trump's efforts to steal the 2020 election, leading up to and on january 6th. but donald trump has always attempted to interfere in an election that he might end up losing good he did it in 2016. he did it in 2019, and the phone call he was impeached for, when he tried to extort dirt on joe biden ahead of the 2020 presidential campaign. he did it in 2020. and he's doing it again in 2024. so, to try and change the subject from a defensive trial, donald trump called the cameras to the place where he is accused of illegally retaining and hiding classified government documents. alongside republican house speaker, mike johnson, who himself helped donald trump try to overturn the 2020 election. trump attempting to inject more distrust into the electoral system, by promoting more baseless claims about photo fraud. >> we will do everything within

our power to ensure that we do have free and fair elections in this country. if we don't have that in our constitutional republic, we have nothing, it is the basis of who we are as a nation. we owe that to the american people, so what we will do is introduce legislation to require that every single person who registers to vote in a federal election must prove that they are an american citizen first. >> this is not groundbreaking, right? first, the 2020 election was the most secure in our nation's history, according to top election security experts. second, noncitizen voting is already illegal and extremely rare. third, donald trump does not value a free and fair election. we have heard him claim for nearly 4 years that the 2020 election was rigged or stolen from him, and now he is trying to lay the groundwork to undermine the 2024 election, just as he did the 2020 election. former chair of the january 6th

committee, bennie thompson, said in a statement today quote, donald trump lost to president biden by over 7 million votes, fair and square. but donald trump still can't admit it. a sham event that trump off the country club should remind the o american people of a dangerous truth, donald trump is a threat to our democracy. and a danger to our constitution. donald trump and mike johnson don't care about election integrity. they only care about helping ey trump's campaign about revenge and retribution to be regain power at all costs. joining us now, democratic congresswoman, a former house impeachment manager and the second impeachment of donald trump. congresswoman, it is dij@ vu right? the conversations that you and i and others have had for years center around the one common denominator that always rings true for donald trump, false claims, that there is something compromised about the elections

and the electoral system that we have. we are on the eve of his first criminal trial for a case that i think a lot of people have always underestimated. it has been labeled a hush money trial, but a lot of us know, including you, that this is really an election interference case. it is this idea that he tried to hide these payments that he made so he could influence the outcome of that election. your thoughts about what we are going to encounter on monday? >> katie, i am glad to be with you, thanks for inviting me. and look at that framing, with speaker johnson, down in mar-a- lago. would you, or i, or anyone of decency had to mar-a-lago this friday? you know what we just went through in congress these last several weeks, with the feckless speaker of the house, with a majority that can't box their way out of a paper bag? we can't gets support for ukraine for the border, for

pfizer, they couldn't figure their way out of anything. i am stunned at the speaker's recklessness. i am stunned that he would stand next to the former veiled president on the eve of this trial. you are absolutely right, it is wrong to call this a trial about hush money of a pornography star. what it is is election interference, let's be plain and simple about it. it is interesting, it is enticing, it is intriguing, it is sexy to say it is something about a pornography star. no, it was election interference. it was on the eve of the election, when the president knew-- or the nominee new that he was likely to be suffering greatly, if it was shown that he had had this affair. ir so, he figured out how to pay off the woman, with whom he had the affair, as well as the other woman with whom he had an affair, that will come through f

in this trial as well. this was direct election interference, and for speaker johnson to be so complicit is so against his persona. remember, he is a man of i christian faith good he is a smart lawyer, and yet look what he has done. he has become a puppet for the former president. >> and you know, congresswoman, one of the critical roles you have played in congress, among many, is serving as an impeachment manager and the crux of that second impeachment trial for donald trump in the senate was centered, again, se around election interference and yet you have this-- what you said, this juxtaposition of speaker, mike johnson, with donald trump today, talking about, of all things, laughably, election integrity. we know that trump has used election integrity as a banner to waive, to excuse criminal to behavior on his part. how does it feel to know see him do it again and again,

despite your best efforts and others to make sure that there was accountability for him back in the impeachment trials? >> well, katie, you are absolutely right, i was a member of the judiciary, so i was part of impeachment 1, if you remember, the famous phone call with president, volodymyr zelenskyy, a new president, where he said, i want you to do a favor though. you want those javelins? you want a meeting in the oval office? i will need you to do me a favor, dig up some dirt on my opponent, mr. biden. and then impeachment to think about it. and i literally had conversations about mike johnson, a member of judiciary. you know, when we voted for speaker mike johnson, i knew exactly who mike johnson was and what he stands for. he stands for the tearing down of faith in our institutions. and yet, as i sat on the floor, katie, democrats next to me said, do you even know who this guy is?

i said yes, i know exactly who this guy is. i have seen him perform alongside mr. jordan, in a different style, but the exact same mode, in judiciary. you know what was said? after the january 6th, you know i was there. i was there up in the gallery, a gas mask with all of my colleagues, and mr. johnson as well. and you know, after that, of course we came back to the floor in the middle of the night, determined not to have the insurrectionist's have the last word, and we would do our r constitutional duty. what did mr. johnson do in his book? he voted not to certify, for example, y,pennsylvania's electors. and in a conversation with me a couple of days later on the floor, right next to the washington-- george washington, beautiful painting, he tried to defend his brief about the false election, and his vote

not to certify the election. not to certify the pennsylvania electors, not to mention the others. the speaker is in a very precarious place. he literally cannot say who is a free and fair winner of the election, did you notice that? c when he was asked upon his ascension to the speakership? he is in a very precarious place and he is not acting a speaker, obviously. the former president is acting as speaker, and i guess mr. johnson is just down there as his whip. >> well, depending on what happens in this trial, i guess we will see whether or not donald trump ends up being cut a convicted felon. yet, house speaker, de facto, donald trump, thank you for getting us started, i really appreciate you. thank you. >> to be with you. and today, donald trump's two codefendants in the classified documents case were

in a florida court room trying to get those charges dismissed against them for helping donald trump ngobstruct the federal government from retrieving those classified documents. trump appointed federal judge, eileen cannon, seem skeptical of the motions to dismiss the charges against the codefendants , suggesting that those argumentst should be made to t jury during a trial. this comes as we are learning more from the newly revealed transcript of what was now a 2022 interview with fbi special agents, a few months before the fbi executed a search warrant at trump's florida club and recovered dozens of boxes of evidence. joining us now from miami as perry stein, department reporter of the washington post, and bradley moss, national security attorney who represent people in the work and intelligence community. thanks to the both of you for being here. perry, get us started, and give us a quick breakdown of what ck happened in the courtroom today. >> right. so, we saw trump's two codefendants make their motions to dismiss the case. i think the best way to

describe it is that they said, we are charged with all of these allegations around obstruction, you say we lied to and then misled investigators, and, you know, tried to block investigators from getting back these documents, but what their attorney said is that we didn't know there was an investigation, and we didn't-- or i should say that the indictment doesn't way out evidence that we knew that there was an investigation or er that we knew there was classified document in the boxes. so, how can we be charged with conspiracy, d when we didn't kn what we were conspiring to? and they want the charges dismissed because of that. >> so, bradley, this is a motion to dismiss. putting aside the fact that we are supposed to go to trial in may 20th, i don't know, four weeks, you have got judge cannon, i know it is not going to happen, but you have got judge cannon doing motions to o dismiss now. less than a month before trial

and she is not ruling from the bench, these are layups, layup motions to be decided and yet t we still won't have a ruling on them, despite 2 1/2 hours of judge cannon asking questions to both sides. >> yes, when the notice came out but the motion hearing has been held, what i noticed was in this paperless order, orders toh follow, i want to say, okay, this year? because it really shouldn't be e that difficult, as you were noting. and as perry was noting, these are not issues of law for judge cannon to be deciding. these are issues of fact. it is the see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil defense. i didn't see or hear anything wrong. that might be true, those are factual issues to argue at trial after the government has put on their case and you have tried to win a direct verdict. that is not a matter of law for

judge cannon to resolve and she should be easily able to dispose of this, and this is the problem is that she takes so long with these things, it is not that i really think she is going to throw out the indictments, she is just going to drag her feet on getting to it. >> so, perry, any indication from judge cannon though, to fr this point of the conversation that we are having that she will be ruling imminently? >> she did not give any indication this time. we know in trump's motion, one of trump's motions to dismiss, and she will very quickly. an we just don't know, as you said, like, motions to dismiss our longshots. these were arguments that she seemed really skeptical of, but she also really grappled with issues, asking a lot of questions for 2 hours and i think it is important to know, she didn't have to hold a hearing, right? she could have accepted ruled from their written arguments, but she decided to hold a hearing so, again, yeah, i don't think that it means she is missing the indictment, she definitely came to this hearing, she was prepared, haver lots of questions for both

sides, she seemed really skeptical, as you said, kept saying these are questions for i a jury, not for now. but she did, you know, really seem to grapple with it. >> bradley, when do we get to the point when, now, i'm not just going to ask about deal of era. starts pointing the finger and says trump told me to do it. >> if this action gets pointed toward a true trial date, if these motions get thrown out, if statements from people, like evan corcoran don't get suppressed, if it looks like we are legitimately going to trial, carlos is the weak link. he has the least amount of stick and this is and has no reason to throw himself under the bus. he is the one i expect to cut a deal. does that sink trump? no, but it will certainly hurt, and it will look bad from an optics standpoint, particularly in the media, particularly with the public, that one of his opponents are cutting a deal.

that is what we are all waiting to see once judge cannon finally issues rulings. ul >> i don't mean to rain on our parade, but she also has about five substantive motions she hasn't ruled on that done donald trump's file. perry stein and bradley moss, thank you so much for bringing us the latest from ft. pierce, i appreciate it. >> have a good day. coming up, vice president,, lane harris, went to arizona today, where she champions reproductive rights after the arizona supreme court upheld an 1864 law banning all abortions. arizona state senator, ewa birch shared that she had an abortion after her pregnancy was no longer viable, she joins us next. us next. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine

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is to blame. former president, donald trump did this. during his campaign in 2016, donald trump said women should be punished for seeking an abortion. don't forget that. he said women should be punished. as president, donald trump, hand-picked three members of the united states supreme court, because he intended-- intended for them to overturn roe versus wade, and as he intended they did. >> if you look at what we have done with roe v wade, we did something that people said couldn't be done, and it has been done and i give great credit to the supreme court and the justices for having the courage to do it. >> courage? more like cruelty. but that is the point. stripping women of their rights to life-saving healthcare, using a draconian law. think about it. 160 years ago, when this law

was originally enacted, arizona was a territory. women had no power, and vice president harris, she would have been a slave. according to the institute, an estimated 18 million women do not have abortion access in their state. but here's the thing. this is and 1864 it is 2024, women wield power. they hold office, and when they speak out they are heard, like arizona state senator, eva birch, who shared her personal abortion stir story this week, with a reminder that the real power is in the battle. >> a couple weeks ago i had an abortion. a safe, legal abortion, here in arizona, for a pregnancy that i very much wanted. a pregnancy that failed, like many of my pregnancies before it. an embryo that was dying, and a

miscarriage that was destined to happen. somebody took care of me, somebody gave me a procedure, so that i wouldn't have to experience another miscarriage. the pain, the mess, the discomfort. and now we are talking about whether or not we should put that doctor in jail. this is outrageous that we would even dignify the consideration of this type of band. they been drafted when women had no say. when arizona was not a state. this is and what the people of arizona, or the people of this country want. we are talking about a small number of really extreme political pairs calling the shots for everybody else. republicans don't want this. independence don't want this.

democrats don't want this. we have to look at who our elected leaders are. the time is now. it is done. i have had enough. the people of arizona have had enough, we are electing pro- choice candidates in november. watch it happen. >> joining us now is arizona democratic state senator, ewa board birch. there's really nothing i can say to follow up after you delivered that incredibly heartfelt, such raw emotion, because it is something that is so in cement and personal to you, but i am going to offer a small correction to what you said. republicans did want this. they wanted this. the republicans wanted this, but now it is squarely the dog with its teeth firmly on the bumper of that car. they have caught the car. so, now they want to backpedal, like kerry link come and pretend like this is so outrageous and this is not what they intended it to be.

how do we hold them accountable for them wanting trump being the architect of the fall of row and for you having to stand in front of the world and say and explain what happened in to you. >> thank you so much for having me here today, and i think what is important to keep in mind is that we are going to have republicans voting for this ballot measure, when it comes to the ballot in november and plenty of republicans receive abortion care, and i think that is the point that i am trying to drive home is that this is really self defeating, and that it is republican leaders on these elected officials, who are behaving exactly like we knew they would, who are behaving the way that they have, for decades, slowly eroding these rights over time, and now they are really in a tricky situation, because the republicans in arizona don't want to allow a democratic bill to be the solution to this problem. they don't want to allow us to have a win.

they don't want us to get credit for cleaning up their mess, but they also are not going to be able to put forward a bill of their own, because the infighting right now in the republican party is pretty intense. so, i am not sure what it is that they plan to do with the situation, but it is imperative that we hold them accountable. we cannot let them forget that this is a problem that they created, and that even if we do come up with a short-term solution for this problem, even if we do repeal the span, they are going to continue to chip away at these rights, and to erode these rights for decades to come. we really have to make our voices heard in november. electing pro-choice candidates is really our only solution. >> vice president harris stating today, in your state of arizona, that trump is to blame for this, that he is the architect for the fall of roe, and she attributed a lot to the fact that we have three supreme court justices that were appointed by donald trump, during his administers in. you know, i have always said,

senator, that the fall of roe didn't happen overnight, there was some complacency that went into there's no way that it could happen. admittedly we got that during the confirmation processes and confirmation hearings, but how important is it to understand too that the judges making this decision, those elected into the office, some of whom have faced merit retention votes, in my state of florida, for example, that the judges also need to have accountability for what has happened too? >> no. that is 100% true. we have republican appointed judges that are responsible for this decision that happened, here in arizona, and i think that is where the conversation has to shift these down ballot races. yes, it is very important to focus on the top of the ticket. this happened because of donald trump, there's no question about that, and that is an imperative part of the precision, but what happens in our local government, in our local legislatures, and with our local judges is equally important, and can have just as much, if not more of an effect.

we see it happening state after state after state, as these rights are being withdrawn and taken away, and the solution, time and time again, is for citizens to be able to come and take that power back. but we know that these fights are going to continue, and that we really need to obtain majorities, and retain the white house in order to make the difference that we need to make after november. >> i do want to share my sympathy to you, senator, for your loss. and the fact, again, that you have to be-- you have to be so transparent about something that is so personal to you, and yet, you are doing it so that i can have an opportunity to have access to reproductive rights, my daughter can have that access, that this can be something. i can't begin to express how much i appreciate what you have done, to be able to speak out about this. i know it hasn't been easy for you, so, my sympathy.

>> thank you so much. i appreciate that. what i will say is that women should not have to re- traumatize themselves over and over and over again to be able to access appropriate healthcare, be able to have the rights that they deserve, but i also think that, it is so important for those who do feel comfortable speaking out, to speak out loud and as broad of an audience as they possibly can. we have to have these conversations, because this moment is so critical. and if we don't tell our stories, then the people who are controlling the conversation are wrong. what they are saying about abortion is wrong. what they tried to-- the picture they try to paint about who the abortion patient is is wrong. and we have to take back that narrative, we have to take back that story. so, i am grateful. i am grateful for the opportunity to do it. i am sad that my pregnancy didn't progress. we have tried and tried to have a baby, and to grow our family. and i don't know how people in arizona are supposed to feel comfortable trying to grow

their families, when we are in this really inhospitable environment for pregnant people right now. you know? this is a hostile environment to be pregnant in arizona, not knowing whether or not you are going to be able to get the care you need if something goes wrong. it is unacceptable, and we just have to do something about it and this is the best i can do, and i am going to keep doing it. >> well, it is more than just good, it is amazing. and again, thank you very much arizona state senator, eva burch, for being here, and sharing your story, and being such a strong advocate. like i said, so we can all have a chance. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. coming up. one year after the covenant school mass shooting and nashville tennessee senate republicans there just passed a bill, allowing teachers to carry concealed guns on school grounds. the tennessee house will vote on this bill monday, including our next guest, tennessee state representative, justin pearson, that is next. next.

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this is irresponsible, the public school teachers don't even want the bill! they are not even asking you for this. we just passed legislation in our school! can we see if that works yet? i am upset, not because i don't like you will come individually, because i am mad that this bill puts my child at risk, and all of the mothers that have put out their

children at risk, look at that gallery, they are asking you not to do this. put partisan politics aside, i ask you this all the time, this bill is dangerous, don't do it. teachers don't want it, the school district doesn't want it, nobody doesn't want it. it is not going to work, it is going to cause more school shootings. what happened today is a gallery full of mothers who are concerned. and we put them out, because you are trying to put guns in teacher's hands. we ought to be ashamed as mrs. speaker. >> that was the scene in the tennessee senate this week. state senator, london lamarr with her baby and a microphone in her hands, begging republicans not to vote to put more guns in schools. yes, more guns, not less. this week, republican lawmakers and tennessee advanced legislation that would allow some teachers to carry

concealed guns. last april, just days after three children and three staff members were killed in a mass shooting at the covenant school in nashville, donald trump gave a speech pushing for armed teachers. and so, a year later, tennessee republicans have decided that their solutions and gun violence in schools is more guns in schools. during this week's legislative hearing there were vocal protests against the bill, before state troopers. state troopers removed those protesting from the senate gallery. also in the senate were parents of survivors of the covenant school shooting. than the tennessean reports beth watched the senate proceedings tuesday, with tears in her eyes, alongside several other mothers of students at the school. she said her children, 9-year- old ava, and 12-year-old, hudson, survived the shooting, because of well-trained teachers and police officers doing their job. she can't imagine a teacher having to also deal with confronting the shooter, especially one armed with an assault style rifle.

a handgun will do nothing against that. if what had happened on march 27th had gone down the way that it did, with a teacher armed with a handgun, attempting to put the perpetrator out, my children would likely be dead. the tennessee house of representatives is expected to vote on the bill on monday. joining us now is democratic state representative, justin j pearson of tennessee, and tennessee month, beth parker and her children attended in nashville. i want to thank both of you for being here. you are both obviously concerned about the future of the children in tennessee, beth, i want to start with you. i can't imagine, you have a 9- year-old and a 12-year-old. they still attend covenant school. you are at that senate hearing, you were a part of that gallery. they-- the mothers, the parents they were removed when they were speaking out about wanting to protect their children? >> it was appalling. it was truly the most outrageous

experience i have had in my life, really. there was just such a level of confusion and pain, and just we felt discarded. it was just bizarre and painful. >> representative pearson, i know that you are familiar with the being silenced when you are trying to speak out in that hall, but what is the justification that is coming from your colleagues on the other side of the aisle to vote on a bill and approve it that is not wanted by anyone? it has been tried before and other counties in tennessee and hasn't worked. i understand there is an opt out of this legislation and i understand maybe that the voices in support of this say

their training and their is a certain component of it, but how is it possible that they are so tone deaf about what is really wanted to protect these children in these schools? >> this is a dangerous piece of legislation that puts at risk every child at risk in our schools, including putting our children at risk in schools. not a single student was asking to pass this type of legislation and they certainly aren't asking us to do it by kicking out mothers from the galleries, and those who are advocating on behalf of their kids in the process. what we are seeing is the cowardice of the republican party in the state refusing to address the epidemic of gun violence, which is that instead of ending the epidemic, by doing something about the guns that are being proliferated in our communities and doing something that would stand up to the national rifle association they are attacking parents and they are actually making our schools less safe. they are bringing guns into gun

free zones and this is only going to have horrendous ramifications for children, who will access these weapons and these guns for teachers who might accidentally harm or shoot their students. now, these are the real challenges that are going to come from this terrible legislation. >> beth, i don't know what you think about now, when you think about your children being in a classroom, where, despite best efforts, accidents happen, as the representative talked about, but more importantly, you have had to live through the trauma of your school shooting for your two children, they have had to go through that trauma and they blessedly survived it. you have spoken about the fact that these teachers were focusing on the kids and making sure they stay safe. these teachers were not focused on, let me grab a gun, and get into a shootout at the holy at the kid's classroom or in the school. >> i spoke with my son foul teacher about that day. my son was in the second grade. he was adjacent to the third grade, where most of the shooting and damage occurred.

and in talking to her about this, she explained that, in that circumstance, there was absolutely no way that she was going to leave 14 innocent children alone, to go, you know, confront the gunman. the bottom line is that our educators need to be educators. they do not need to also wear the hat of law enforcement officer. it does not make any sense. and it would have been utterly terrifying for my child, when i think about him, and how much he needed her, she told me that , in that time she went to bring the shades down, and the shooter, the back of the shooter, she was in the hall. she was right there.

and our teacher knew, in that moment, her one job was to keep herself silent, and her children silent. and that's what they did, they practiced reading, they watched her breath go in and out, her chest rise up and down, and they held hands, and they waited it out. if she had left that room, there's no doubt in my mind that my children would not have survived. >> i'm-- i have a 9-year-old who is in third grade. i don't even know how you are able to share this, i am grateful that you are and then i hear this, and, you know, representative, i want to harp on this for our viewers to understand, mothers like beth gebhart, to talk about this experience, they are being silenced. these are not politicians, right? these are not-- these are not lobbyists for anti-gun or anti- second amendment kind of propositions. these are parents that only

want to keep their kids safe, and yet you are being silenced. you are being removed from a public forum, because they just want to share their concerns about really flawed and dangerous policies and legislation that is getting past in your states? >> this is the way that the tennessee republican party works. they silence the voices of dissent in order that they can corrupt, be corrupt, and use their power to be corrupted and absolutely use it. and they wielded against anybody who they believe is going to stand up against them. this is why representative jones and i were expelled. this is why the mothers are consistently being kicked out of the gallery and kicked out of committee rooms, even during our special session, to address public safety. they are not interested in the safety of our kids, they are not interested in safety of our teachers, they do not want to end the gun violence epidemic, they only want to proliferated with the policies and legislation that is supported by the tennessee firearms

association and supported by the national rifle association. they are not interested in making our communities safer, and we have a responsibility to continue to show up, and i think beth and all of the mothers and organizations that are standing up in this moment to say that there has to be a better way, and that this is not the way for us to move forward. but this is on par with how republican party abuses its power. this is not new to me. it is not surprising to me. the removal of people from the galleries, anytime that they, sometimes are clapping, and speaking up in a building that their tax dollars pay for. the republican party, they work hard, mcnulty, lieutenant governor, mcnulty, to silence the voices of dissension, and that leads to really terrible and awful legislation, and that is going to lead to more kids losing their lives to be passed and pushed through in our state house. >> representative-- what is the solution? >> the solution, first, for this bill is it does not need to go forward. we need to vote this down and

we need to listen to teachers and we need to listen to parents and listen to those who are saying let's make our community safer. we need to pass a safe storage laws and prevent those from ever getting to the schoolhouse door, by preventing people to access weapons of war and being able to get weapons in our state firearms and our state, without even getting a permit or take educational classes, there are so many research driven and database things that we can do to make our community safer in the proliferation of guns and the epidemic of gun violence, with the republican party first needing to be humble enough to listen and realize that they have gotten this wrong and made our state and communities and schools a lot less safe. >> beth, my apologies, i did not realize i had cut you up, please, the last word. >> no, well i wanted to first say, representative pearson, we are so grateful for people like him that are speaking up for what we all want to see happen. what i was going to add is that, for me this is new. it is not new for him. it is very new for me.

unfortunately i think we have put a lot of trust in our elected officials to be reasonable, to be the voice of the-- all of us. what i have seen is appalling. a confederacy of dunces is at work here. they are passing laws that they have to live by and died by. it is appalling, it is outrageous. and so, i would add that next week, it may be up for a vote through the house, and if folks like me in the state of tennessee recognize that this law is dangerous and should not be made into law they can text tn to 64433 . 64433.

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