donald trump's first criminal trial begins monday. msnbc will be covering it all day and then we have rachel leading one of our special coverage breakdowns. we'll start in the 6 p.m. eastern hour. you can see there rachel and our whole team breaking down day one of the historic trial. i'll be there with joy, lawrence, nicole and everyone. 6 p.m. eastern. you can watch during the day. that will be our special breakdown to go through like the nixon/watergate era as we live through this history together. and you've been watching this msnbc special. keep it locked right here as our coverage continues. tonight on "the reid out." >> just minutes ago standing beside speaker johnson donald

trump just said the collection of state bans is, quote, working the way it is supposed to. >> vice president kamala harris a short time ago in arizona delivering a scathing rebuke. also tonight, trump rarely steps foot into church and yet he's increasingly stoking christian nationalist sentiment which was once at the fringes of politics and is now almost totally consumed the republican party. plus, two election deniers get together in florida to talk about, air quotes, election integrity as speaker maga mike johnson clings to donald trump in hopes of saving his stumbly, bumbly, unproductive and all around disastrous speakership.

but we begin tonight with small but important signs of hope for our 248-year-old democracy. yes, it remains under severe threat from donald trump and his christian nationalist party, just not for the reasons he's telling you. what is set to begin in a manhattan courtroom on monday is not an attack on democracy, it's actually a sign of its health and evidence that it can still function the way it was intended to. to help explain i want to take a brief trip to italy and introduce you to silvio berlesconi. he was indicted for embezzlement, tax fraud, bribery, under age prostitution. while he was able to get out of almost all of the charges against him he did ultimately

face accountability and was convicted. 81 years ago italy was run by fascists. today it is a functioning democracy and bur less zone any's con vuktion is evidence of that. the we've seen plenty of prosecutors prosecute heads of state including nicholas sarkozy. and south korea's park geun-hye and jacob zuma. just last month brazil's bolsonaro was indicted. and when it comes to current indictments israeli president benjamin netanyahu remains under indictment for corruption. some might say he's keeping that disastrous war going to push back the start of his trial even but this is a thing that happens

in democracies. if a head of state is found guilty of a crime, they're prosecuted. there are no kings, dictators, no one is above the law. the principle of equal justice under the law which is engraved on the front of the united states supreme court is no less true here in this democracy, and on monday donald trump will see it function firsthand. as his hush money election interference trial gets underway. now ironically it's in the same courtroom where the central park five were prosecuted as teenagers for a sexual crime they didn't commit. a group exonerated after trump, who was recently found siflly liable for sexual abuse, called for their executions. and judge juan marchand shot down a motion. the pre-trial publicity in which he was seeking an indefinite

adjournment. marshawn points to trump's statements. the situation defendant finds himself in now is not new to him and is in part of his own doing. next week they will conduct a thorough, thoughtful voir dire during jury selection. the case on monday is historic. the first criminal trial of a former president. what trump wants you to believe is that somehow that threatens democracy. it doesn't. what does threaten it is his effort to stoke the flames of chaos. one of his campaign fundraising emails this morning refers to the start of the trial on monday and declares 72 hours until all hell breaks loose. now you'll recall the last time someone in trump's inner circle said all hell would break loose it was steve bannon on the day before the january 6th

insurrection. still in the courtroom unlike on capitol hill all hell no not break loose. trump will be required to sit in the courtroom every single day while his lawyers conduct the trial. he'll be expected to behave himself and he will be presented with a presumption of innocence, a jury that will likely hear directly from trump. >> will you testify in your trial? >> yeah, i would testify. absolutely. it's a scam. that's not a trial. that's not a trial. that's a scam. >> look, if the prosecutors can't prove that you did it, donald, you'll get off. you'll walk scott free. see, democracy. outside the courtroom all bets are off. the secret service and new york police department are making security arrangements for whatever happens and whoever decides to show up. the wild card, of course, is the defendant. trump will surely not shy away from cameras outside the courtroom where he can continue his attacks on the judge,

prosecutors, maybe even the jury but inside that courtroom, inside that courtroom democracy will prevail. joining me now is katie fang, msnbc legal contributor, glen kirshner, former federal prosecutor and bobby gosh. >> senior editor at bloomberg. i'm going down the line. start with you, katie. because the thing is is that monday, as mad cap as i'm expecting it to be, i'm assuming you and glen will be hostages inside one nbc bureau or another, you won't be able to leave all day because you'll be covering it all day, that might be the most normal thing we've seen relating to trump really since 2016, him going into a courtroom and being not arraigned but him facing jury selection like any other citizen. your thoughts? >> yeah. i think that's important, joy, to point out, because if you look at the style of the case and the style is the name, it's the people of new york, right?

versus donald j. trump, he doesn't get the benefit of president trump, as we noah anythingly his lawyers consistently refer to him as president trump in legal filings and when they speak about him in court, but it is the humbling moment when he has to sit at counsel's table not by choice but by law and required procedure. when he is referred to as criminal defendant donald trump that the playing field is truly leveled. and that is when accountability comes a knocking and hard because the voir dire process, the jury selection process all the way to the verdict being rendered against him is something that affects thousands of americans on a daily basis. and so regardless of how much he wants to have all hell break loose outside, there will be a silence that will be happening in that courtroom because donald trump will not be in the driver's seat.

judge juan merchan will be controlling his courtroom as he does and donald trump will not have any free rein to act out when he's in court and be he will have to again sit humbly and quietly as the justice system does it work. >> something he's not been used to doing. we've been covering the death of o.j. simpson. what do you think we in the media should have learned from that spectacle that i remember i was telling chris hayes the other day, i was 25 years old on maternity leave. that's not like every other american. he's a celebrity and on top of that he's a former president. what should we think about as we're watching that spectacle. >> you know, i think we should focus on the fact that the rule of law matters. the rule of law is one of the

things that makes this country great and makes us a civilized people, and i firmly believe we're in a really important moment because our nation will be stronger for a former president of the united states who committed all kinds of crimes. he's indicted 88 times over. the evidence in my assessment even that's just been publicly reported is overwhelming and our nation will be stronger once our lived experience is that even a former president of the united states can be put through a fair judicial process and a jury of his peers, a jury of ordinary citizens will be in a position to decide whether the admissible evidence proves his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. i believe he'll be held accountable. i believe he'll be convicted, but one way or another, our nation will come out the other side of this so much stronger

for just having gone through the exercise of putting a criminal former president on trial. >> yeah. you know, bobby, i wanted to bring you in. i know you've written a lot about this. it is a normalizing thing. americans want exceptionalism so bad and they forget we're part of the world. i thought of burlesconi. trump is america's burlesconi. larger than life media character. that was a humbling moment for one of the most powerful men ever in italy's history. what does it say to you as someone who's covered the sort of international media world and politics that donald trump is going to meet the same kind of system of justice that he had to? >> well, it is a -- it would be a terrific advertisement for american democracy if -- when you put the president on -- former president on trial.

we're talking about how it will be perceived in this country, how new yorkers will see it, how his supporters are seeing it, but i'm thinking how the world will see it. the world will see american democracy, which we like to preach to the rest of the world, the world will see american democracy, the american justice system in action and i think the world will welcome that. you talk about ber less zone any, jacques was convicted. three presidents in south korea. it's like an unpopular phrase. these are not banana republics, they're thriving democracies. it's a good thing for a democracy to show everybody within the country, because we are united states, to show the wider world that in a democracy the systems of justice work independently from the political process. >> yeah. >> that it does not matter how

popular, never mind he's a former president, doesn't matter how popular or how famous he is, that he has to go through the same system of accountability and justice as you or me. that's very, very important. that's fantastic, as i said at the top, fantastic advertisement for the world. >> we need it because january 6th was the opposite. i mean, katie, i mean, the thing is there are some ways in which the advertisement is a little bit less powerful because in a lot of those cases, whether it is in south korea or france or italy, i do believe in all of those cases, having been convicted, it made them ineligible either permanently or in the case of italy i think for 18 years from running for office again. in the united states, a lot of people ask me this all the time, they need it reclarified over and over again. the thing unique about our system, donald trump, even if he becomes a felon, whole felon

with a conviction, he can still run, he could still be president, he could get convicted in a later trial and still be inaugurated even if he's on his way to actual prison? >> yeah. that is reason why to bobby's point, glen's point, your point, the reason why justice is so important. the judicial system has two components as we know. one is to basically be punitive. there's the punishment part of it, jail, prison. you've broken the laws, the social contract that exists among all of us and for that you must be punished. the other point of the judicial system is the deterrent factor. the idea of taking somebody like donald trump, regardless whether he was the former president of the united states, his popularity being it is, no matter how ill founded it is, if you have the deterrent it is to

serve to stop not only him from committing crimes again being donald trump, but people like him. people like donald trump that are cut from his cloth. preventing phlegm doing the same thing. it's this idea if you get punished enough you deter people from doing the same criminal conduct. i believe even if he's eligible as a convicted felon, i don't know how you're doing this from prison, joy. we all know the levers of justice are not going to function with a president in prison. i don't care how crazy our country seems to have become. i don't think we've crossed or jumped that shark enough at that point. >> bobby, your name was called a minute ago. the difference is donald trump is pushing the limits of the gag order, of how much he can say about the prosecutors and also of threatening violence. you can say what you want about them, they weren't threatening to burn the country to the ground. bolsonaro, i don't know when he was hanging out with trump.

this is something that's exceptionalism in had a bad way for us. >> yes, it is. the it has an impact around the world. about your less zone any, it didn't matter to anybody in china, brazil, south africa. donald trump because he's the former president of the united states the former president was in prison. we've seen to use the brazilian example. if three consecutive presidents were convicted for corruption, that tells you it doesn't work as a deterrent.

that's not what will be in the mind of the judge who is -- who will be presiding over the court. a judge will judge trump in the specifics of this case. >> right. >> that's how it will be. >> let the politicians think about the deterrent effect. let you and i talk about the deterrent effect. the judge will do their job. >> amen. >> hitler went to jail too. just throwing that in there. glen, i'll give you the last word on this. came out and ran and became chancellor of germany. how do you expect the prosecutor to handle this case. he's in the central spotlight. how do you expect him to conduct it? >> oh, i expect a very compelling case.

in the courtroom. charged you from seeing it ourselves. what donald trump i don't think will ever understand; in the court of public opinion where there are no rules of evidence, no rules of law and the constitution doesn't apply. once this moves into a court of law, he won't be able to say and do the things that he has been saying and doing to tear down our institutions of government day in and day out. once the rules of law, procedure and evidence apply, i believe r i believe that he is going to go down in flames because the evidence against him is powerful, it's corroborated. there is an audio recording of him involving himself in the corrupt scheme to make these hush money payments and cover them up. so i think the prosecution is up

to the task of presenting the evidence professionally and in a compelling way. >> and we are all going to be watching. it is going to be historic and it probably is going to, indeed, be wild to quote donald trump. thank you all very much. what an excellent panel. up next on "the reid out," america's collision course. the possible re-election of its self-anointed savior threatens our democracy. "the reid out" continues after this. nues after this

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three days before the start of the trial which is centered around allegedly paying hush money to a porn star to try to cover up their affair to hold on to evangelical voters in 2016 in the wake of the "access hollywood" video donald trump posted on his flailing video site a picture of jesus standing over him next to an american flag with his hands on trump's soldiers and the words strengthen him lord. send legions of ang gets to protect him, father. it may be shocking but not necessarily surprising coming from a man who has spent the better part of the last decade stoking christian nationalism, assembling what is a religious cult, jim jones style and convincing his evangelical flock that he is under attack and therefore so is christianity. from his rallies to his plans for a second administration but the ideals of christian

nationalism did not start with donald trump. a new documentary, "bad faith" investigates how the movement that was on the fringes of christian conservative thought hijacked the republican party and surged to the forefront of american politics today. >> but neither has this movement ever been about shaping people in the way of jesus. this movement has been about scaring white christian people into believing that there is an enemy out there that's going to obliterate you. if you believe that, then, you know, you believe that in your home you need to have the biggest baddest gun possible and in the white house you also want the biggest, baddest gun possible and donald trump is that gun. >> joining me now is jonathan wilson hartgrove who is assistant director at yale. i feel like i've just seen you because i just did. i was just at the yale center with you two days ago.

>> good to see you. >> we just manifested getting to hang out again together. talk to me about this documentary. what will it reveal about the origins of christian nationalism in the u.s.? >> this is a powerful film. i saw it in d.c. last night at its premier there. what it does and does well is it helps people understand the network behind the movement that really created donald trump. i mean, in some ways trump is a symptom, a symptom of something that has been at work for a long time. this really matters to me because i was raised in a place, i grew up in a church that was targeted by this network more than 40 years ago. so the film lays out how a political operative named paul wyrick grew that circle and created a real wrap around culture that has inundated certain parts of this country with a kind of manipulation of

their faith. now sometimes people see this on tv and look at it and say how can people be so crazy but if that's all you hear day after day from the local television, radio, people who come through your churches and folks that you trust, this is a movement that has had a real warping effect. it's deeply concerning for our democracy. i'm a pastor and as a pastor it's deeply concerning for the church. in order to gain political power, this movement has tried to pit people against one another. >> yeah. >> i was talking -- >> no. go on. go on. finish. >> i was going to say quickly, i was talking to steve ulacki who was making this film and making films for a long time. he didn't grow up in this culture. the big question, where did it come from? it didn't make any sense to him. he said the process of making the film and learning the story helped him understand the

distrust of the government was carefully cultivated and it was cultivated by this movement. >> let me play another clip real quick. here it is. >> i would say they don't have their jesus. they may have their trump. they don't have their jesus. i'm kind of particular about the jesus thing. they can't have that brown skin palestine jew who came to say i came to preach to the poor. they can't have that jesus because he's already told us what he stands for and that's what always gets in the way of christian nationalism and proves it ain't christian. >> the problem is jesus. >> that is our friend the bishop william barber. paul wyrick who you mentioned is the guy who got evangelicals to suddenly care about abortion, because they didn't. when roe v. wade originally -- when that ruling was made, christians had no thoughts on it. the mostly pro choice and didn't care. he's the one who said, no, no, no, beings let's not focus on the thing we care about, which

is we really wanted our white schools and were segregated, we need to focus on something more palatable. how did people manage to get people to go from the bible, which is the jesus who cares about the poor and the sick, to caring about things like abortion and gay people and things like that? >> well, the movement played to fear but it didn't do it explicitly. the movement realized in the post civil rights era that it couldn't appeal to racism, it had to use religion instead of racism. he takes the fear and the anger around these christians who want to hold on to segregation academies. actually, what you're pro for is pro life and family. you're going to create educational systems that will instill the values in them. he manipulates the religious language and uses it to play to the worst fears in their local culture. i think this is always the potential of religion, right?

you know, bishop barber and i teach people who are going to be ministers in the church, and we teach the history of religion in this country. this has always been here. religion has been possible as a tool for division and for stirring up division. >> right. >> but on the other side and why it's so powerful, it has also been an incredible strength for bringing people together. it took faith-based movements to bring about ab bowlism, at the heart of the new deal, civil rights movement, women's rights movement. what we're trying to say, both in this film and everything we're doing, is something that powerful can be put to use for good. >> yeah. >> that's why we had clergy together this week in new haven and made a declaration of clergy who said we are going to go from this place and preach the real moral issues. we're not going to fall for this. >> that's right. >> we're going to bring people. >> real evangelicals preach the

good news. jonathan wilson haregrove. i'm a church girl. thank you, jonathan wilson haregrove. the documentary "bad faith" will be streaming online next week. up next, vice president kamala harris visited the new ground zero for the 2020 election arizona three days after that state supreme court turned back the clock and revived a 160-year-old civil war era near total ban on abortion. we'll be right back. do you own a lot of bras, but not a single one you really love. it's time you got into a wireless bras from knix.

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because of donald trump more than 20 states in our nation have bans. now because of donald trump one in three women of reproductive age in our country live in a state that has a trump abortion ban. just like he did in arizona, he basically wants to take america back to the 1800s, but we are not going to let that happen. because here's the deal, this is

2024, not the 1800s, and we're not going back. >> that was vice president kamala harris, the highest elected female official in u.s. history speaking on behalf of millions of americans who are now the targets of conservative men across the land. her trip comes just four days after the arizona supreme court delivered a potential death sentence to thousands of women in their state when they decided that nearly all abortions will be banned. joining me now is molly john fast and comedian, writer and actor jay jerden and we're going to add msnbc contributor. we're going to manifest it. this is kamala harris at her most powerful and on an issue she truly cares about. >> yeah. you know, the thing is in that time period in the 1870s you didn't have women politicians because women couldn't vote. >> couldn't vote. >> lincoln was president when

this bill was passed. >> yeah. >> i think it's really important what she's doing, she's out there and messaging about it because republicans are running scared, right? yesterday we saw sean hannity blame the democrats for this when you have republicans on the floor of the arizona statehouse praying together, refusing to repeal this bill because they could. remember, a conservative court put this in and a conservative legislature is keeping it in. so this is really republicans doing -- and by the way, i think it's really interesting on monday trump came out and made this states rights comment. they knew an arizona decision was coming. they knew it was going to be an 1850s decision and now he owns states rights. >> they're doing all of it at the same time. in 1864 the reason slavery was primarily illegal because slaves when they were raped and gave birth, it was property.

white women were essentially opened by their husbands and fathers. >> and when you bring up state's rights and when you bring up the 1850s, as a black person from mississippi, i go, i know what's happening. there are republican men trying to walk back. it's not the big deal. if you have to buy one bus ticket in life. i'm from mississippi, the pink house that started this entire thing. >> which is a furniture house. >> mississippi problems become american problems. this is tied to them and they can't really win over any moderate women, moderate college educated white women when they keep doing stuff like this. >> this is kari lake who's trying to be like i'm here, 180 degrees from here. here she is. the. >> this total ban on abortion that the arizona supreme court just ruled on is out of line with where the people of this state are. the issue is less about banning abortion and more about saving babies. >> obviously i think roe v. wade

should be overturned and i think the supreme court, i have a good feeling they're going to do the right thing this time. again, i'll echo what steve just said. we have a great law on the books. if that happens, we will be a state where we will not be taking the lives of our unborn anymore. >> do they not know that they're on tape? do they think the tape don't work? >> listen, kari, we have a lot to say on you on black twitter. >> whole bunch of things. >> that is such a walk back. she's backpedaling like a quarterback. what is happening? >> they know. she knows arizona is a swingy state. in '22 she didn't win. >> she said i'm the governor still. i'm still the governor. i won. >> her announcement, sorry, was that she was going to work with governor hobbs to come up with something. >> right. >> i was like, you know you're not anything. >> when kari lake says she's pro choice, that means she gets to choose what she believes in now. >> the thing is what they're promising. what we're now seeing to go back

it's literally an 1864 law and women are creating ang underground railroad to get out of red states. put the map up. they are trying to get out of the south. it couldn't be more literal. >> you have to take legal action if you are the creator of the handmade's tale. at this point, what are you going to do, margaret atwood. >> at least now she's not of child bearing age. >> yes. >> she would be a martha. i had three children. i would be a martha. molly and jake are staying with us. we're all going to be marthas. two election deiers make a ludicrous announcement on election integrity. yeah. stay with us.

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i'm going to announce to you today here standing alongside president trump that we will do everything within our power to ensure that we do have free and fair elections in this country. if we don't have that in a constitutional republic, we have nothing. we owe that to the american people. what we're going to do is introduce legislation to require that every single person who registers to vote in a federal election must prove that they're an american citizen first. >> yup, those prominent election deniers have a plan to further undermine our elections by trying to make voting harder.

noncitizens, zoom in on me here, cannot vote in federal elections. it's literally illegal. literally. also, it was donald trump who tried to steal the 2020 election with help from congress and mike johnson who helped recruit 120 house republicans to sign on and ask the supreme court to overturn biden's wins. johnson helped come up with the legal theory. don't take their recommendations seriously unless you have a deal with the rnc to pay for your legal fees because that can happen if you're in the family. back with me. people who are not -- you can't vote in an american election if you are a noncitizen, the end. >> going to mar-a-lago to investigate integrity. that's like listen to mo money mo problems, to see if diddy did it.

we are going to make sure they are above and beyond. >> we're going to do a law to make them more illegal. >> did they not know there was this law? i mean, republicans are really good -- you know they have all of these appliance laws. >> appliance laws. >> appliance law in congress. >> amazing. >> mike johnson with his one vote majority if he were not who he is i would feel bad for him but he goes down there. he looks like -- you could tell this was trump's idea. it was so -- >> thumbs up. >> they're doing the free on and the fridge protection act. let our gas stoves survive. >> they're -- >> i think mike johnson and trump should do and keep each other accountable on what porn they watch. >> keep it accountable on the porn. that's all about porn next week and the lady, i love her, by the way. yeah. stormy. let's talk about the chicken shack trump moment. trump, because you want to appeal to the blacks, you've already done sneakers, now let's

do chicken. let's play it. >> i voted for you in the past. >> you have? >> when you ran the first time. >> wow. >> doing a lot for your tax credit reform bill. >> we took care of those colleges. >> sure did. sure did. this is selma, moore house. >> isn't that great? >> i don't care what the media tells you, mr. trump. we support you. 4 p.m. we do 4 p.m. >> come here, let me give you a hug. >> bless her, candace heart. moore house democrats put out a statement saying our goal is to simply reiterate our unquivocal believes about our beloved hbcus. i'm going to tell you as somebody who worked on campaigns, secret service has to go through that room. they're not just going to let

anyone in there unless they're prescribed. she said she was an intern for the republican party of georgia. her little thing, blexit. she a owes a plant so we know that. everyone in that room was prescreened to be in that room. this was not her walking into a chicken shack. trump. >> you know he stole a couple of polynesian sauces. >> and doesn't know what to do with them. >> i'm surprised he didn't try to go on sunday. >> he's so desperate to show blacks love trump. >> i joy reed is going to wait to see donald trump hugging a black. >> exactly right that. >> it is so, it is fundamentally so upsetting to think this is a man who says

all this racist stuff, he does all this racist stuff and thinks he can go to a restaurant. >> he thinks he can go to a chicken restaurant, fill it with black people and go see and they love me. they love me almost as much as they love this chicken. >> i will put it on the other side that, you know, even things like, okay, the biden administration will put out there list of things they have done for african-americans. $7 billion affordable housing, the big thing is the loan forgiveness. that is a big deal. $153 billion in student loan forgiveness. >> more today. >> trump is trying to say the first step back is me. that is a black congresswoman who did the first black stepped back. he signed it. >> he brought asap rocky out of sweden. that's hard. sweden is a difficult place to

get incarcerated. he got him home. he freed asap rocky. there is that need that republican's are desperate to prove that blacks love him, that women love him, that everyone loves what they are doing. >> the should probably start by enacting policies that would help black people and women. and, hear me out, black women. >> i don't even know, i don't even know. i do think that the biden campaign is starting to feel a little more confident because as trump becomes more incoherent and as the abortion thing becomes an absolute dumpster fire, i think that gives democrats some more confidence, if people turn out. >> when you hear trumpet talk, he's not a gifted oratory. he's never been a gifted oratory that he does seem a little weird or >> cognitive issues? >> he seems, he seems tired and he doesn't seem the same.

and thousand 16, he was able to go from place to place to place. he doesn't quite make that kind of movement yet and he somehow thinks three weeks of a trial is going to elevate him with voters. and see the math. >> not knowing whether nikki haley and nancy pelosi, which is which, might not mean you are in the strongest company. >> why is he in atlanta? because he has a criminal case. he's not just hanging out in atlanta. >> don't go anywhere. molly and jay jurden are stating with us. could my pick for who won the week be basketball legend dawn staley? she won a lot this week. stay tuned. tuned.

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we made it to the end of another week. thank you jesus. that means it is time to play our very favorite game, who won the week? >> the vice president. by the way, i have felt she has been underappreciated and taken for granted and treated shabbily, as many black women are. and, i have seen her all summer. she was at hbcus, she was touring, she was zipping around the country. this week i feel like people finally got it. you are hearing the crowds

responding, the speech she gave in arizona today was really excellent. she was really clear and she made the case for why women don't want to go back two centuries. >> this is why she was important to have on the ticket. jay jurden, who won the week ? >> women's college basketball. i'm talking about south carolina, i'm talking about caitlin clark. i have to add another very strong woman won the week, the moon. the moon is a woman, the son is a man. she said get out of here. i want to thank the eclipse for making everybody . i don't know if that is true that that is what marjorie taylor greene and mike johnson told me it would do. >> between the two. i had trouble picking just one person because earlier this week, as jay jurden said, coach of the women's basketball team, the gamecocks, dawn staley. not only is she a legend as a coach, also a legend as a player. i also thought beyonci kind of

one the week. beyonci became the first black woman to have a number one country album on the country billboard charts. that is huge. however, i had to come down to the winner of the week being you guys. if you are one of the millions of americans who got your student loans zeroed out, you have a whole new life, you want the week. it could be up to 30 million people by the time it is done. all the people won the week who got their student loans fixed. this is life-changing for people. >> $30,000.00 of her debt as an educator, went off. >> it is one constant bill that is gone. right now, americans have to worry about how many bills are stacking up. >> that is a win. dawn staley, college women's basketball, kamala harris, the moon. thank you very much. that is the reidout. right now, all in with chris hayes starts now. >> tonight on all