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tv   Katy Tur Reports  MSNBC  April 8, 2024 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT

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3:00 p.m. here in new york. if you're just joining us, we have our eyes to the heavens this hour. this is carbondale, indiana. illinois, excuse me. where they are experiencing totality. look at the green band around the sun out there. texas has already experienced totality. so has oklahoma and arkansas, missouri, and illinois. and now it is indiana that comes up next, kentucky, ohio, pennsylvania, new york, vermont, new hampshire, and maine. 30 million americans are in the path of totality today. the rest of the lower 48 will see a portion of the eclipse, giving nearly all of us a chance to step outside of ourselves and into the only experience the whole of humanity has ever shared in exactly the same way, same at our grandparents, as galileo and aristotle, as the mayans, the cave men, the dinosaurs but while it will look the same, we won't necessarily
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get the same message. the ancient chinese believed the sun was being eaten by a dragon. the inkas saw it as a sign of god's wrath and tried to appease him with sacrifices. the mayans thought the world was breaking and the world collapsing. in ancient greece, the eclipse stopped a war. the more recently, 1919, it verified einstein's theory of relativity. just look at that. so what is it giving us this time? here's what's happened so far. >> absolutely amazing. like, it makes you want to cry because it's so beautiful. it's like a once in a lifetime kind of thing. >> it's amazing. you can see the stars around it. it's incredible. >> have you ever seen anything like this? >> no. >> what do you think of it? >> it's so cool. >> so cool. joining us now in bloomington,
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indiana, nbc news correspondent maura barrett where it's starting to get dark, and careville, texas, morgan chesky where it's passed over. still with me is senior space and physics editor, lee billings, i can't see you anymore, what's it like there? >> it is feeling like a very serious cloud cover, you know, when you normally get right before it's about to thunderstorm. obviously that's not what we're seeing. forgive me, i'm going to keep looking towards the sky right now. it's the tiniest sliver on the top half of the sun we're seeing. almost like an upside down which he shire cat smile. it's become a darker orange. it looks like at least from my perspective. but to set the scene for you just before we hit totality, i am in indiana university's football stadium. you can see the thousands of people behind me set up. there's a massive stage. william shatner was just delivering a spoken word performance to all of the people
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here in the stands, the marching band, people dancing. he did this amazing spoken word performance, katy, his big booming voice elevated by this full orchestra behind him, and then he closed with this massive crescendo, and the orchestra played it. i don't know about you, because i'm an orchestra nerd. i'm going to walk out so we can get reaction from the crowd here as we hit totality, but i'm a certified orchestra nerd since i was 7 years old, and something about that crescendo of music, with william shatner narrating something like this was absolutely insane. you can see it getting even darker around me, and it made it even more emotional. people all around me are looking up to the sky. i'm going to stop right there for a second so i can look up and not blind myself. we're getting a little bit closer, basically the moment before we're going to see totality. we're doing to walk this way. sorry, paul is walking
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backwards, you know how hard that can be in a situation like this. just before totality, you're going to see a diamond ring is how scientists describe it. it, looks like an engagement ring. you see a bead on top of the sun. that's what we're seeing now. you hear the cheers. okay. it's getting smaller. oh, my goodness. i want to make sure i can experience this with them. you can't do this alone. it is getting so dark. you hear the countdown. >> reporter: let's listen. >> 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. ♪♪ ♪♪ >> reporter: oh, my god.
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that corona around the darkness o. sun, the flares popping out. we learned, we spoke to astronomers here that said this was a more magnetic era the sun is experiencing, that's why we see those solar flares and everyone in the crowd has taken off their glasses as the stadium has been plunged into darkness. and you see some phones out, trying to take pictures with their solar lenses, but mostly everyone is just looking out at the sky, with their jaws dropped because i will admit, i was a little cynical that this would make me emotional, but here i am with tears in my eyes because this is just absolutely amazing. and there goes a plane. >> oh, my god, again. and. >> reporter: oh, my god, did you see that. >> and the whole crowd is freaking out just as much as i am. that was so cool.
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>> reporter: imagine being on that plane right now. >> i know looking at the flight path, i'm so jealous of everyone in the window seats for sure. >> inge inge -- i think gadi scz is on one of those flights. >> reporter: i can feel my body a little bit hesitant about what is going on right now. it's funny because it's so dark around where we are, you can see light peeking out on the edges, it's further past the horizon, past the stadium is not full darkness, but it definitely feels like that moment before you're plunging into darkness. and you can definitely feel it got colder for 20 minutes leading up to it. they're counting down again, i'm going to double check what that's for. >> 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
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>> reporter: oh, the count down was for the final totality, it's going to be in the -- >> it's amazing. >> reporter: i'm losing my words. >> it's hard to describe. they have a hard time finding words about the experience of totality because it is so different than anything else you experience. they call it visceral. they talk about the hair on your arms standing up, the colors changing around you. we've got a high-tech camera on you, and it's amazing, the camera can see the eclipse itself and see the band around it, which i'm blanking on the name, corona. excuse me, that's what happens after two hours of coverage. the corona around it. krant see anything else other than that. i mean, it's so dark that the camera is not picking up any
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light. >> reporter: it is absolutely wild. yeah, because you can see it so clearly. looking around at other people here, it feels like nighttime. it doesn't feel like it's 3:00 in the afternoon. and, yeah, the goose bumps are real. the chills are real. it was in the mid-70s today. it's definitely dropped down to a more comfortable temperature which is obviously when you think about it, makes sense, logically, that it got cooler. but you can really feel it as it gets darker. one of the experts i spoke with leading up to this. i'm just staring straight at the sun right now, trying to savor as much as i can. they said to set a timer. we're getting one of the longer durations. it's peeking out again. oh, my goodness. i'm putting my glasses back on. about four minutes. >> let me bring in lee for a second. are we seeing bailey's beads? >> it could be either one, but either way, amazing spectacle.
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>> what's it like seeing it? >> even seeing remotely, it gives me chills. i had goose bumps earlier listening to the report, so it is something, very very special. >> we can see a little bit of light on the horizon just there as her cameraman, i think it's paul out there with her, pans up. gosh, and the crowd itself, the screams, the excitement. >> reporter: i know. i want you to meet some folks, actually, who are just part of all of the ooing and i want to get down on the ground here. how are you feeling? >> it was actually better than we expected. what do you think, jack? >> this is my first time that i've seen one. >> yeah, the first time. >> reporter: did it line up with your expectation? >> not really. >> reporter: you were disappointed? >> did you like it? was it exciting? >> was it better than you expect
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ed? >> yeah. >> reporter: he was born in 2017. we got to see a little bit of it. not totality like this. it was amazing. >> reporter: do you think you'll go see more eclipses? >> should we go see another eclipse? >> sure. >> are you from indiana? >> yes, we are. we live up north in northwest indiana now, but yes, my husband and i both went to school here, so. >> reporter: amazing so a little bit of a home coming, a reunion in a sense. i love that. thank you for sharing your thoughts and enjoy the rest of the afternoon. i'm going to see if there's anyone else we can chat with. coming into the next few minutes. janelle monae is going to be doing a concert here. a star studded event, in addition to the celestial event. it's going to be great. hey, guys, what did you think of the eclipse right now? >> they lasted for more than like what they said. >> reporter: you think it lasted
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longer? >> yeah, i could keep looking at it. i thought for a minute it was going to be eternal darkness. >> reporter: it find of felt like that. >> felt like cave men and kaifr -- cave women. eternal darkness. >> reporter: i'm going to send it back to you. >> i love her, give her a microphone, and send her back to us. i love that energy right there. thank you so much. they're amazing. let's go to chris jansing in rocky river, ohio. chris, where are you? >> reporter: katy, this is a celestial spectacle of epic proportions. i'm finding myself getting a little overwhelmed by it. it is an amazing thing to see, and to watch people. it's suddenly gotten so quiet because it's nearing totality,
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and there are people who have been out on the water kayaking and boarding and now everything is still. and everyone is still. and just waiting for this to happen, i wondered what would happen when it started getting dark, and you can feel that there's this perceptible drop in temperature, i'm sorry, but i've got to watch. this opportunity, there's just the tiniest sliver left. i wondered what would happen on the playground because the kids were all yelling and playing and all of that, but look, the playground is pretty much empty. the kids just spontaneously seemed to leave the playground, and do you hear it? do you hear it? >> i do hear it. >> reporter: oh, my gosh, there is almost nothing left.
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it's almost totality. >> you're at a loss for words. >> reporter: and this is the wald family. you want to put your glasses on? they have the coolest glasses. look at that. what do you think? ♪♪ >> reporter: katy, can i just
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say, so many people have said to me that there's something about in this particular time when there seems a lot of heaviness in the world that a community, that families, that new friends, people are making friends here come together, and can all just pause for a moment and look to the sky in wonder. i want to talk to a few of the people who are witnessing. if you can look out to the water and look at how beautiful the horizon is. you can see the colors there. and it would be complete dark here if the lights in the park had not gone on automatically. this is a couple who came in from pennsylvania. i'm afraid to even interrupt you because you seem just completely -- >> this is wow.
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>> reporter: you drove out to pennsylvania. you stopped for the night. you came here, and. >> and we're so excited to be here. this is incredible. we've never seen anything like this. it's wild. we purposely wanted to come here because we knew it would be better than going where we were going to go to, which was erie. >> reporter: you were waiting to see to the last minute where you might end up, and now as you look up and see totality, what goes through your mind? >> this is going to be worth it, i'll be real tired at work tomorrow, so yes, my workweek starts tomorrow, but this is so worth it. it's so nice. everybody here is nice. you know. >> look at this. >> reporter: all the folks who are lined up, many we met. as i said, so many new friends were made, but look along this water front. people trying to take
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photographs of something four minutes long. if you were watching us the last hour, magnus, can i bring you over. we told you there were two guys from germany, one now living in seattle, one living in philly. >> it's worth days of travel. it is astounding, i have never seen something so amazing. it's uncomprehendable. >> you have a ph.d. in? >> chemistry. i did mrna before it was cool. >> was it worth it? >> definitely. i would always come here to see it. do you see the bright dark, these are things reaching out from the sun. otherwise you can't see it. >> underneath in the sky, guys, if you're watching tv right now, the star you're seeing is not a star. it's venus, i think. please fact check me, guys. and i don't know what the red dot is at the bottom. all of you guys.
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>> that's a perturb that is reaching out. >> so a sun flare, essentially? >> i guess so. there it goes. >> back on: and a little bit sliver is coming out again. >> wow. >> reporter: katy, we came here. all of these people came here expecting a once in a lifetime experience. there is so much hype that never quite, you know, the actual experience never lives up to it. this is not that. i'm going to do one more quick stop because my friends who came and they were hoping to see something cool. okay, guys. you were hoping to see something cool. >> goodness. i don't even have words. what we just watched, that was amazing. >> it was absolutely incredible. the prettiest sunset, i guess,
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if you could call it, i have ever seen. the lake was beautiful. the eclipse was so insane. you could see venus and then jupiter up there. so that was also cool. >> it's cool, too, just to be a part of it, and hear everybody's reaction. it was very cool. >> i don't know if you could hear it, katy, but people started cheering. you can see that the sunlight is coming back out. people were actually cheering for the show that mother nature brought us, and unlike anything i have ever seen or of course will ever see again, i can see people behind me hugging, a few people, might have had a few tears in their eyes, and katy, i might have been one of them. >> chris, i could hear it in your voice. i can't see you. it's so dark. there you are. there's some light coming back. >> reporter: there i am. >> i can hear it in your voice, the emotion. it's authentic and raw. >> reporter: and to be with families, and also to meet new people, and make new friends,
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and share just a moment that i think these folks will tell your children and grandchildren and their children will tell them, and, you know, in another 75 years or so, there will be another one, and they will say, i remember when mom or dad or grandma and grandpa told me about the eclipse they saw. >> we want to tell all the people at home. we're expecting. >> oh, my gosh. >> reporter: is this news to your family? >> family and close friend. everyone else, it's on the news now. so the joke will be with the kids, you just missed it. >> so actually, someone already, we don't know if it's a boy or girl, but somebody has already been to an eclipse. >> they've experienced it, yes. >> reporter: katy, how can you top that? >> that's amazing, i love that. you were talking about the emotion of the moment and the period we're living in being so fraught and so tense and there seems to be so much anger.
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well, there is in historic lore, a story about the eclipse ending a war in ancient greece, so maybe this is a moment that will bring us closer together for more than just a few minutes at the time. i love what the gentleman earlier you spoke to, the scientist who did mrna before mrna was cool, he said it's really cool to do science for a live. you can tell why. that was venus, we had a fact check. >> reporter: the little family i spoke to, they call themselves a science family, and so i think the little kids, i don't know if you saw the little boy. he had on an astronaut shirt, and he said he's going to be an astronaut. i do think that this is an inspirational moment, potentially. right? because there's tons of little kids around here. how often do little kids get this awe and stop. so anyway, katy, i'm so glad i got to share this with you. >> you too, chris. go be with your family.
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welcome back, we are outside. you can see niagara falls first. that is experiencing near totality right now. it is 3:26 p.m. you can see light out there when totality hits, as we have been witnessing with all of our reporters. it's going to get a whole lot darker. there's word that maybe the falls will look pink. we're going to keep our eyes out for that. you're also looking at new york city. you could see the empire state building, and if you were looking in this direction toward me, you would see us on top of 30 rock here in manhattan, and it is definitely darker here. >> yes, and this is it. >> this is as dark as new york city will get. we have been showing totality, all the last hour. everyone in the darkness, but for a majority of the country, this is kind of the view that they're getting. >> it's still very cool, bill. >> it is. you had the dimmer out.
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>> show us the people outside. >> i mean, these new yorkers are impressed. >> they are impressed and you can see, i mean, they're starting to move a little bit more now because i think it's starting to fade, but a moment ago, as we were in commercial, everybody was stalk still down there, with their eyes toward the sky. another moment where everybody looks up, away from their phones, away from the ground, away from themselves, and up into the heavens to experience something that people have experienced for thousands and thousands of years. lee billings is with us as well. lee, what i find so fascinating is that we understand what's going on. we understand the basic physics of this, the basic science behind it. we know that it is predictable. we get that the sun and the moon are in alignment every so often. in ancient times, i mean, that was not the case. >> not at all. >> people were freaking out. >> people were freaking out big time. was it a dragon eating the sun or a squirrel or a bear, and how
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are we going to appease them. >> there were ritual sacrifices, blood letting, the kings of the mayans would release blood to be burnt as an offering, just to appease the gods, and, you know, it worked every time. worked every time. >> the sun came back. >> so i guess it worked. 100% success rate. we know more. people are walking back, traffic never stops. >> that's what we were talking about, happiness, everybody has been so happy watching this, and watching the reactions of the people in it has been incredible. >> i think it's been remarkable to see jaded new yorkers especially look up and stop their daily routines for just a moment. i mean, we had an earthquake the other day, and even that didn't stop people. they thought it was a subway. they kept moving. people are honking their horns already. people have had enough with it. they want people to move out of the way so they can get through. >> do you have the fear of missing out at all. do you feel if you weren't in that hundred percent.
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people are saying, you know something, i wish i had done it: i didn't take my family, the kids, and now we have to wait another 19 years or something. >> 20 years. 2044. and south dakota or montana. >> we'll all be in our 20s when that happens. my husband is seeing it fully in indiana right now, hosting his own competing special on another network, and he did not bring the kids, so the kid will have to blame him. >> it's almost over. through the adirondacks, i know we had this shot of silver plaque earlier, they were in the totality, and now it's going to head to maine, and shortly it's done, gone, headed to the atlantic. >> i'm amazed the cloud cover hasn't been an issue. >> there are going to be people in central new york that are not thrilled with what happened, but besides that, it was pretty good. >> i mean, even now we're moving out of the eclipse near the partial eclipse in new york and it's still darker, feels different. doesn't feel like dusk, doesn't feel like dawn.
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there's a certain purple gray to the quality of the light that we don't normally experience. is that a good way of putting it. >> a little bit like dusk. >> but not quite. my cones and my rods are getting confused. when did we stop seeing this as the sun break, the heavens crashing upon us, and start seeing it because the sun and moon are in alignment. >> that traces back to the 5th century bc, anaxgoris, and he realized essentially that the moon was a big rock. and that the suns was what was illuminating it. he was able to figure out looking at a lunar eclipse, when you see the shadow of the earth, figure out how that worked, and from there, able to figure out, okay, probably what happens with the solar eclipse is when the little rock eclipses what he thought was a big rock, the sun, you know, what he was it was. and since then, the rest is
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history. now, we know a lot more, and it's even been used to, as we said earlier, verify einstein's theory of relativity. i don't know if we have time to get into that right now. >> i think it's amazing. it's a beautiful thing, and also a fluke. it just so happens that the sun is 400 times as large as the moon. >> that it perfectly makes that ring. the odds of that are very slim. >> so it's that perfect alignment that is just a fluke, a blessing of the natural world you could say. >> the fact that we have such a large moon is super duper weird, guys. not many planets have that. >> our moods, our tides, all kinds of things. i like the word blessing. i think it fits here because it is a strange cosmic coincidence, how do we explain it? >> i don't know if we can. >> we talk about the north american one. someone is really desperate, feels like they missed out. and they want to travel, there
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are other totality eclipses. >> every 18 months or so someone on the planet experiences it. >> let's go to george solis, experiencing the partial eclipse, here in new york city. george, what's it like? >> reporter: we are super early this morning, and there's only a little bit of people, and now take a look. this is everyone that came out to actually see the partial eclipse. who needs the total totality. here in new york city, one of the best viewing spots, where history has occurred, to see another event, a partial solar eclipse. as you were outside, we had our safety glasses on to take a look. just a spectacle, the cosmic ballet, the confluence, something we won't see for 20 years in north america. people so excited. i spoke to an astro physicist, he said this is like the super bowl. again, taking a look at the
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number of people that showed up here. people from all over the world, just to get a glimpse here in new york city. along the path of totality, this worked out well. here in new york city, you saw we had good weather, cloudiness during the start of the eclipse, but frankly, what a view, what a spectacular view. take a look as we're starting to exit it. you can see how much of the eclipse occurred here in this region, and again as we're looking around our colleagues across the path of totality getting into the complete darkness, it is very cool to see what a special moment, what a unique thing to see. so many people celebrating the event here. we heard audible oohs and awws, a what a moment. something a lot of people will remember, and hopefully we'll be around in 20 years to report on the next one, katy.
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>> it was amazing, we saw the kind of frowns and flat faces. >> they booked stuff like three years ago in the totality ring. >> it's definitely a different experience. george, it's still cool to see, obviously. but i think totality is where we have to be next. thank you so much. totality is over houlton, maine, where we saw kate snow a little bit earlier. that's supposed to be the absolute best location to view the eclipse. look at it there. completely clear, no cloud cover. >> street lights are on. >> the weather is nice. >> the street lights come on because the senators believe that it's night. >> that's cool. >> it's like you're driving in your car and your gps lights up when you go through a tunnel. i find that amazing. roosters crow. animals start doing their night routines as if the day has gone.
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can you imagine how confusing it must be. >> confusing for robots. your solar panel is like what's going on. >> we heard a lady earlier say she could see stars. >> and one of the scientists said he could see venus, could he see venus? >> you see the tight shots, and you missed wide view, we talked about at the beginning of the broadcast, in fact, all of the planets in the solar system are on the other side. when you see totality, you're seeing all the solar system laid out before you. look at houlton, maine, right now. it looks like a perfect french manicure. i have been waiting to see that all day. >> they were estimating it was going to be 50,000 people. i lived in central maine. there's not a lot of roads that
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go north besides one, and this is the most people that have ever been in northern maine. i can't think of any time in history there's been this many people in northern maine. everyone headed north. >> if i got in a car last night at midnight and drove north up to moulton, maine, would i have made it? >> i would have viewed it from my car, and drove right back because there's no rooms left. >> camp out on the side of the road to see it. >> that's fine. we can look at houlton maine, a live shot of the crowd viewing it. if we had sound, we would hear many of the same things we heard before. i was taken aback at priscilla thompson viewing it in dallas. she was really feeling it. she clearly didn't know what to expect. >> it's like going to a movie. everyone says it was good, and it was better than you thought. >> and chris jansing, getting emotional. >> in her hometown in cleveland. oh, yeah, chris.
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>> it was beautiful, and listen, these are our colleagues, we know them well. to see them react in that authentic visceral, in the moment way is special for all of us because we know them, but also just special watching the crowds that have gathered, families that have come together. chris with her 300 person family. she has like 400 siblings. the family with jay gray in texas from the beginning of our broadcast, the father who got emotional bringing his small kids to see this. because it is, i mean, we say it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. it's a once in a five lifetime opportunity. >> that's right. >> if you set a lawn chair down on your front porch and wait for the solar eclipse pass over you, on average, it will take 360 years. could take 800. you aren't going to experience this if you happen to be lucky or seek it out. >> that's right. and that's why there are eclipse chasers who make this their life, the biggest hobby. >> you can see the difference between totality, right, the
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full experience and this. it's the difference of reading about a kiss versus kissing someone when you have totality. it's not the same. it's still impressive, nonetheless. >> flying in an airplane, compared to falling out of an airplane. >> because it's so rare, makes it special. >> let's go to texas, guys. it's been almost an hour since totality. the party there is just getting going. the eclipse party is filled. she's calling it the biggest party ever on a monday. katie, thanks for joining us. i love having a party on a monday. tell me what it's like out there. >> this is the biggest party a monday has ever seen. we have been fortunate all week long. they said we were going to have clouds and rain. today it broke for the eclipse. we had 500 people show up. we sold out our events here at
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barrow brewing, and the party is still going. the sunday drivers are a band from waco that are playing right now, and people are still enjoying the sunshine. we had eclipse trackers from france and germany, houston, seattle, new york, maine, california, and we just, it was an amazing experience. we have about an acre and a half here, and we knew we needed to control the space to make it enjoyable and safe for everyone. and it was. it was so perfect. i have never seen anything like it. it just got dark all of a sudden. it just got dark. >> did it change you? >> did it change me? >> well, you know. >> yeah, did it change you. >> i warned my husband, i said this is the one and only time we're going to experience this together. you're going to kiss me. you're going to dance with me,
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and then we're going to pray, so we stuck to the plan, and we made the best of our little time under totality. >> i love that. we were just talking about the difference between watching a partial eclipse and watching a total eclipse and the story is that a partial eclipse is like getting a peck on the cheek, a total eclipse is like a night of passion. >> we didn't do that, but, you know, what is so surprising was i thought we would have some transition. there was no transition. all of a sudden it just got dark. and that was what created the silence and the aww. people howled and, you know, just made sounds of awe, and then it got really really silent. it was just beautiful. >> what was the light like? how did it feel? how did it look? did it look like dusk? did it look like dawn? >> it did not.
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it did not. so we had cloud cover the entire time, and it would come in and out, like the clouds were moving, and right now, we have a blue sky, but at that time, the clouds were shifting southeast, and so people kept their eclipse glasses on, and they would watch the clouds roll through, and they would completely block the sun. and then the clouds would shift, and we could see what was happening with the moon and the sun and the dance, and then just literally all of a sudden at 1:38 p.m., it got dark. like, just it was so sudden. that's what surprised everyone. and created this awe-inspiring event for everyone that was here. >> katie hill, thank you so much for joining us. i'm so happy you got to experience it. i'm happy your husband listened and gave you a big kiss during it. that is a good memory, even though it wasn't a night of
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passion. but there's still time. katie hill, thank you very much. i totally embarrassed her. thanks. we are here in new york city, the light is getting back to normal. not quite there yet. it still looks a bit hazy. >> you'd wonder what was going on. >> it's like a faded shirt that's been in the wash too many times. we're going to be right back. don't go anywhere. we still have a little bit of totality left. join us for our total eclipse special here on msnbc. e special here on msnbc. >> tech: cracked windshield? schedule with safelite, and we'll come to you to fix it. >> tech vo: this customer was enjoying her morning walk. we texted her when we were on our way. and she could track us and see exactly when we'd arrive. >> woman: i have a few more minutes. let's go!
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there is something more significant, more special than your wedding day, but how do you stand your love up to the test of time? 315 couples are setting a high bar for themselves, getting married in the moments before totality in russellville, arkansas. and if they want to do it again, they're going to have to wait 20 years. perfect for a renewal of vows, a second marriage perhaps, or if you're a kid, maybe your first. let's go to lee billings who's
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back with us. lee, it's good to have you. >> good to be here. >> 20 years, my joke is, maybe a second marriage. but how do you compete with the first wedding when it's in a total eclipse? >> i don't know if i could cover that one. i should probably renew my own vows in one of these. >> it's been such a special day. >> it has. >> and again, watching everybody experience it has been special for us, even though we only got a partial eclipse here. what i love about this is not just the lore of history and how the ancient civilizations saw the eclipse, and how they feared it, and how scary it must have been, but how it has confirmed science that we use every day. we rely on every day. it confirmed einstein's theory of relativity and propelled him into being one of the most famous scientists, most reliant, theories we most rely on in every day life. how did the eclipse confirm the theory? >> that's beautiful.
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so what happened is newton's theory, which obviously einstein's superceded for gravity was confirmed by an eclipse. hailey's comment helped predict back in the day. let's fast forward, einstein said, okay, i have this new idea. gravity is the curvature of space time. and space time is one thing, and big things curve space time around themselves. that's what gravity is. he realized a couple of things, how mercury curls around the su to look like this. so the idea was, since we have curvature of space and time, the biggest thing in the solar system, the sun, that should curve space time just enough, just enough that nearby stars in the background, they're light should be shifted just a bit. so they look like they change
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places in the sky, but you couldn't see that unless there is an eclipse. so they tried to look at this effect over years and did it in 1919 with one expedition to brazil and one to mississippi. >> what is most amazing about that, other than the fact that it confirmed this theory, is that science is still a work in progress and there is still so much to learn and nasa is still studying eclipses, they are launching rockets in space right now to try to understand how the eclipse messes with our frequencies, messes with our atmosphere. >> that is right. >> and they're hoping to do it timed right so they get that information. because you only have a couple of minutes and you miss your chance when you miss your kans. >> exactly. so there is something called the moon shadow and that cuts a big hole in our sphere, where the radio signals will bounce off.
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the eye onna fear comes from our far upper atmosphere. so when the shadow goes there you, it goes away and cuts a hole and you could figure out how it will respond to these sorts of consequences and how space weather effects the radio signals around the world and that is one thing. >> we're always learning. let's go back out into the field, in upstate new york, half a milln people are estimated to be in monroe county, almost doubling the area's population. ryan nobles is reporting from the ground in brockport. the clouds don't look great there. tell me what you're seeing? >> reporter: yeah, katy, this was a weird day for us. i'm here with my family and this is where i went to college, in upstate new york, and we watch the clouds all day long. yesterday it was a picture perfect day. there was not a cloud in the
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sky. and of course this morning the clouds rolled in. and we're actually just a few feet from what was the center line of totality, the college marked it off because it went right through the center of campus. and it seems as though the clouds got thicker closer to the big moment and my guys were very bummed thinking they weren't going to have an incredible experience. it turned out to be the exact opposite. it was this weird feeling where almost in an instant someone flipped the lights off and this entire field became completely dark. i mean, this is my son luke, you were bummed because of the cloud cover. what was the experience like for you? >> it was different, but it was just as good without the clouds. >> yeah and what was crazy, it was like a festival atmosphere here. you could hear the band in the background behind me. everybody didn't know what to expect and that moment when it got dark, people just organically erupted in cheers.
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this is a communal moment where everybody was collectively enjoying this. my son is still enjoying it. but in terms of the traffic, which i know something that your concerned about, i do think that that cloud cover is probably going to alleviate a lot of it. we were very nervous about our drive out of here through upstate new york, that we might be in bottleneck traffic because so many people were coming to this specific location like these and they were all going to leave at the same time. the college here, different events throughout th region, had planned a post eclipse party but i don't think the crowds were as big as they thought they were going to be. so i imagine, i say that before we get on the road, but i imagine they're not as bad as we originally thought. but it was a fun day, no matter what. >> you have to get the zoomies out of your youngest one. did he learn his moves from dad? >> it depends on your review of his moves. >> i think they're great.
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>> yes, he learned them from me. if not, they learned him from his mother. they're great. okay, that is all me. >> ryan nobles and family, thank you so much for joining us. you have a great family. it looks like your having a ton of fun with experience. all right. so you missed it. or you just need to see it engood. your next chance here in the united states is 2044. two decades from now. and nbc chase cane is reporting from little rock. hey there? >> reporter: we are on a nature preserve just outside of little rock. we wanted to bring you something a little different to see how nature responded. so you see this beautiful marsh here behind me. we had an oncologist explaining how nature responds because they don't know this is happening for months or even years in advance. so one of things that surprised him as we went into totality, the temperature dropped, he saw
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insects flying on the surface of the water here and we could see fish jumping on live tv to try to catch those insects and we heard from ships and birds who were flying back to their nest and taking shelter unexpected darkness for them could be a threatening time. so we got to see and hear some of the interesting, surprising responses from nature here at this wildlife preserve. >> chase cane, thank you very much. and this just in from someone watching it in indiana, the total eclipse totality, they said it was profound, disorienting, like they were on new and unfamiliar drugs. on that note, that go is going to do it for me. it is such a privilege to bring this to you and pain it is a moment this time where we use this, this shared experience, that connected us to the past and propelled us into the future, to, i don't know, come
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