the cure, they don't say, can i look at your tweets? where we fall on thinking about people who are long gone, it's an issue. cancel culture is different with comedians because with comedians it is, you know, i think they feel like they want to say what they want to say on stage or to be able to try out something on stage where with other art forms you can't do that. >> that's all the time we have for today. we will be back tomorrow morning. april 7th. today the new york attorney th

general is demanding answers about where the donald trump got the money for his $175 million civil fraud case. acting labor secretary will be at the table to discuss the jobs report. grab your coffee, settle in, welcome, to the weekend. we start this morning with new developments in donald trump's hush money case with the trial a week away, he's doing all he can to delay. his lawyers have filed a new

motion for the judge to recuse himself, they are citing his daughter who works for a ht company that supports democratic candidates as a sign that he is bias, and yesterday trump argued online that the judge is violating the constitution in fact, trump attacked three judges involved in his various cases including this on the statement, how many corrupt judges do i have to indoor before somebody steps in? >> chuck i'm going to cut to the quick here. what is it that these judges don't get with donald trump at this point, with the gag orders, with the imposing on penalties to check his road behavior. i don't get it. the man is now putting out subtle threat warnings to this judge, getting his base, we've already had how many incidences now where rogue members of his

base have gone off and on stupid stuff. nancy pelosi's husband, et cetera. tell me, what am i missing, what is america missing that the courts just can't shut this man up? >> well, nobody has had much success with that, michael but i would say it this way. the judges have a job to do and their job is done in the courtroom. but they have to adjudicate a trial and there will be one soon, in new york, fairly and honestly and accurately. they can't react to everything he says or does or rights. they will make a ruling from the courtroom based on evidence, facts and law. it's like an umpire in a baseball game, they are not supposed to react to players who yell at them, they may throw them out but they have a job to do. the judge, he has to judge the game. i'd be surprised if the judges reacted to everything mr. trump said and did. they have a different role here. >> i see that, i don't know,

symone, for me, i don't know what evidence we need, short ofe something horrific happening to one of these judges or a member of their family or someone on their staff, that then people will go, oh, maybe we should just put his behind in jail to shut him up but that's just my reaction. the prosecutor says that's not how this system works . >> i understand. i saw something on instagram yesterday, it was a judge in court, the defendant was on zoom, the judge, it was all done the defendant said something smart about the judge called him a word i'm not going to repeat, and the judge held him in contempt right away and p i was like, why can't this happen for donald trump. you have lawyers who the american college of trial lawyers, they have a letter from the group condemning donald trump's personal attacks on the judges they say attacks like these are dangerous because they risk provoking

violence against judges, prosecutors and their families. they threatened the independence of the judiciary because they are intimidating. d mr. rubin, why? >> one of the things i've been thinking about is of course the judges themselves have not been covered by any of the existing gag orders, that's in large part because some of the judges believe, i took this job, i understood what the risks were. some of them like one merchan , are themselves elected officials and they have security apparatuses at their disposal so some might think it's not appropriate for them to become subjects of a gag order but to the point of the tweet that you read how many corrupt judges must i indoor before somebody steps in? i want to remind our viewers, someone did try to step in a couple of weeks ago in lawrence, new york. a man was arrested for phoning in very serious, threaded ball,

and specific threats, both to the new york attorney general and the judge himself and was arrested, his next court appearance will be in the coming days but this is a man who was being held in custody because he essentially said to both of these actors, you try anything further against trump and i'm coming after you. trump knows exactly what he's kn doing. he's not flouting the gag order but he is violating it's he spirit, time and time again. >> i wonder about the extent to which it's almost like a work around for the gag order for him to say everything he wants to say about juan merchan in an acceptable context? >> it's absolutely a workaround, it's a workaround

in two ways. one, i can use this legal filing to circumvent the gag order because i'm saying in a us judicial context what i can't say extrajudicial he. but on the other hand, the other think it's doing, it's anh opposition research brief disguised as a legal document, so the collapsing of the political and the legal into one big ball of wax is something we shouldn't lose sight of. i not only read the motion for recusal, i read all the exhibits that go with it and i thought, number 1, any of this was out in the public domain before but wow, this was quite an effort to compile all of these things past advertisements, fec disbursements, and so on and so forth. who did that? that doesn't look to me like the job of a lawyer and i have been both in the legal and political rounds, that looks like a campaign operation. >> so chuck, the other side of the coin of my frustration which, you know, i need to

bring it down to a certain level. this is what we see happening with the classified documents case, where you are now looking at trump's lawyers, once again, trying to impose a delay, get a delay. it's ultimately all of this is about delaying the process as much as possible. so what chuck, do we see happening in this space? it's been successful so far, in my estimation, his lawyers havet done a very good job of tying up the system in some form of knots to sort of press the matter further down the road. how do you see these latest efforts being received i the judges and how seriously will they take them. have they gotten to the point that a lot of americans have where we know what's up here? >> there are good answers to your questions in good places and different reasons. for instance, in new york, in

the state case, that's going to trial so mr. trump's efforts to delay that one haven't really been fruitful at least not yet. in florida, very different story. but i think for a different reason. the florida case is a federal one and involves classified documents which is a complicating factor and an inexperienced judge which is frustrating. >> and you give her a lot more running room because of that experience. >> i'm not giving her a lot of credit but when i think i'm providing is an explanation, not an excuse. i don't think she's particularly good at her job and i think she has a cumbersome case, so you see this proceeding in florida grinding to a halt. on the other hand in new york city, it's moving forward. there are lots of reasons for delay, mr. trump's lawyers are not the only defense lawyers who seek delay, i still think we are going to have a trial beginning a week from monday,

so different delays in different places for different reasons. it is -- >> you're familiar with that. >> i've had the privilege of being a federal prosecutor in the eastern district of virginia known as the rocket docket, delays are not entertained, people might find this crazy but i have routinely picked juries in criminal trials in federal court in under 30 minutes. that doesn't happen everywhere, so my view of the world and how it ought to move is admittedly a bit skewed, michael. >> as chuck talked about the rocket docket on april 15, judge merchants chart trial will go forward, the hush money trial as folks are calling it, how long will jury selection

take? >> longer than 30 minutes. in complicated cases, and cases that receive a lot of publicity you should expect them to take longer and i've seen juries picked very fast in the eastern district of virginia, for instance when we prosecuted the 9/11 conspiracy, that took longer. there are procedures at onthe nd york state court that they will use that we were not permitted to use. we were not allowed to ask jurors individually questions about their service and their experiences and their expectations and the proclivities, however it seems one dear will be allowed and that will slow it down precipitously. all of this is managed by the judge and juan merchan will be a good jurist. >> i always ask you what is

new, what's most urgent and youo said it was this filing in florida. >> in florida, over the weekend, trump's folks filed something about the calculation of the trial, it's probably more in the weeks that our viewers deserve that essentially what they are saying is for every motion that they have pending, you can add to the amount of time that they need until trial, that's their way of saying, hey judge cannon, you are sitting on multiple motions and therefore the time to trial has to be elongated accordingly. you can see her therefore in their filing, it's almost a cooperating participant in their bid for delay. >> even the things that are new sound very much like the things that are old. chuck and lisa you are sticking with us. the acting secretary of labor is going to join the table to talk about the brand-

new jobs report. you are watching the weekend i had to get help somewhere along the line to stay competitive. i discovered prevagen. i started taking it and after a period of time, my memory improved. it was a game-changer for me. . auntie, you can't put that right in the dishwasher. watch me. with cascade platinum plus i have upped my dish game. i just scrape... load... and i'm done. in that dishwasher? in that dishwasher. only platinum plus is packed with more dawn to remove up to 100% of grease and food residue. get the highest standard of clean, even in your machine. clean enough for ya? yeah.

scrape, load, done. cascade platinum plus. dare to dish differently. ok y'all we got 10 orders coming in... big orders! starting a business is never easy, but starting it 8 months pregnant... that's a different story. i couldn't slow down. we were starting a business from the ground up. people were showing up left and right. and so did our business needs. the chase ink card made it easy. when you go for something big like this, your kids see that. and they believe they can do the same. earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase with the chase ink business unlimited card. make more of what's yours. when you purchase a pair of bombas socks, tees, or underwear, you also donate one to someone facing homelessness. one purchased equals one donated. 100 million donations and counting. visit bombas.com and get 20% off your first order. for your most brilliant smile, crest has you covered. ♪♪ (laughing) nice smile, brad. nice! thanks? crest 3d white.

100% more stain removal. crest. - i got the cabin for three days. it's gonna be sweet! 100% more stain removal. what? i'm 12 hours short. - have a fun weekend. - ♪ unnecessary action hero! unnecessary. ♪ - was that necessary? - no. neither is a blown weekend. with paycom, employees do their own payroll so you can fix problems before they become problems. - hmm! get paycom and make the unnecessary, unnecessary. - see you down the line.

who is donald trump beholding to? that's the question and frankly, it's what the new york attorney general once to know. she's asking for more information about his $175 million bond in the civil fraud

case, specifically, james wants to know about the insurance company that issued the bond and what trump used as collateral. a hearing has been scheduled for april 22nd. help me understand lisa, what is it that james is doing? >> james has filed a motion for something called justification of the surety. i want to underscore this is not something that lawyers like chuck and me look at and say oh, she's doing it. it's a little-known provision of new york insurance law that allows somebody who prevails at trial and then whose opponent appeals post the bond, to ask for more information about the bond where in this case, the insurer, this is don hankey's insurance company is not admitted with new york state, is not a regular doer of business in the state. he doesn't have certificate of guarantee that would assure most people, hey, they are good for the money. and what this james song is

when i look at the difference between the assets and liabilities at this company, i see an amount that is less than the face amount of the $175 million bond. that makes me curious, how is this bond collateralized. what assets did trump post to get this bond? and we are entitled to see it, court, because of this particular statute. in 10 days of the filing last week, don hankey's insurance company needs to provide the information. if they don't, the bond is invalid. it will stay in place until trump can obtain anyone but the bond gets invalidated if they don't provide this information and then trump is going to have to go out into the insurance market and find someone else to post this bond for him or post the security himself. i don't think we are going to get to that point but we will have a hearing on april 22nd where some of this will become clearer. >> lisa rubin, we were chatting in the break and even chuck

said ask lisa first. to put it in layman's terms, when you buy a house and you start the deal, you have to put a certain amount of money in escrow. then you literally have to prove that you have the funds, and you have to literally they take the funds out of your bank account and put them somewhere else. is the question here, dedrick donald trump do that, where is the money, does the money actually exist or like what is going on here? >> they are trying to figure out something different than that. it's not, does the money exist but assumed that trump gave night specialty insurance company the right to seize something worth $175 million in the event that they have to post the bond, what is it that he gave them the right to. what did he pledged as collateral for the bond, was it cash in a bank account, was it bonds, don hankey has given a

number of interviews, he's been surprisingly forthcoming, but his precise statements have differed a little but he told one outlet it was all in cash, he told another it was cash and bonds but he couldn't quite remember. if somebody pledged collateral to me and i wasn't usually in the surety bond business, i would sure as heck remember what the collateral look like if i was going to put up for them $175 million. james has reasonable questions to ask. >> that's the part of this that is still the ministry in terms of where we go next with all of this. you have of course, don hankey who is the billionaire businessman who is providing the money after 30 surety firms said no, after banks said no, that he steps up and puts up $175 million for donald trump but now, you know, he admitted

that you know, hey, we charge a little bit lower on this. we didn't charge trump a lot of money. lawyers for surety company said they typically charge between 1 to 2% of the face value of the bond, hankey said that he feels the firm did not charge trump enough because of what letitia james is now raising with her scrutiny. what is your sense, if you are in hankey's position, not knowing what is in his head at this point but if you are the guy who has put up $175 million, you've undersold yourself on the fee, right, and now the attorney general is not only asking questions about okay, does donald trump really have the collateral here but now the focus is turning on your operations read what do you think plays out here? >> he can't like that, michael,

he may be a supporter or a friend and trying to help mr. trump, fine, put that aside. i can't imagine that he wants to be in court in new york city answering questions about this financial arrangement. that was probably unanticipated. if it was, shame on them, because everything mr. trump touches, tends to turn to litigation. i think there are probably some answers here that the attorney general has to have. what she's trying to do is protect her judgment. if she wins on appeal and there is a $454 million judgment against esther trump, 175 million of which is securitized perhaps in some way, she wants to collect that on behalf of the people of the state of new york. she has every right to ask the questions of mr. hankey and his

lawyers, and if they didn't see this coming, shame on them. >> i have to ask, what happens to the difference, i mean, it's a $454 million judgment that is secured up to $175 million. so if all of this plays out and letitia james is successful, who covers the difference? >> trump has to cover the difference in how he does that, remains a mystery, in part because it's not securitized for the rest as chuck just pointed out. if and when james wins on appeal to the full satisfaction of that $454 million -- and by the way, that will grow by the day with postjudgment interest, she will have to figure out where donald trump's assets are, which of them she can most quickly seize or enforce upon. many of them are already pledged to other lenders. we know that access bank in which don hankey is the largest

shareholder has $225 million of outstanding loads to donald trump. >> and there it is. >> and that bank has problems. chuck rosenberg and lisa rubin, thanks for unpacking all of that. the rock said he won't endorse a presidential candidate in 2024 and he's blaming cancel culture. that's the sentence, i think i would be hearing or saying that. but we will talk about it, next, on the weekend. the wd ♪♪ [stomach noises] gas... or abdominal discomfort... help stop the frustration and start taking align every day. align probiotic was specifically designed by gastroenterologists to help relieve your occasional digestive upsets.

so you can enjoy life. when you feel the signs, it's time to try align. some migraine attacks catch you off guard, but for me a stressful day can trigger migraine attacks too. that's why my go to is nurtec odt. it's the only migraine medication that can treat and prevent my attacks all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion and stomach pain. now i'm in control. with nurtec odt i can treat a migraine attack and prevent one. talk to your doctor about nurtec today.

it's time to get away and cache in, at cache creek casino resort, to rock and to roll. to go all out or... go all in. with four stars and rising stars, northern california's premier casino resort is the perfect place... ...to do as much -or as little- as you want. make your get away now and cache in at cache creek casino resort.

(vo) sail through the heart of historic cities and unforgettable scenery with viking. and cache in unpack once and get closer to iconic landmarks, local life and cultural treasures. because when you experience europe on a viking longship, you'll spend less time getting there and more time being there. viking. exploring the world in comfort. so dwayne "the rock" johnson is not cooking up a presidential endorsement. he said he won't back biden or trump in 2024 in the hopes of

avoiding quote political division and the low back of cancel culture but can cancel culture really silence a big box office star? a new msnbc film, the story of cancel culture dives into the phenomenon. >> we called it public shaming, we called it rejection, we called it ostracizing people. >> we didn't have a cancel culture problem when it was only the powerful people canceling the powerless. it's when the people punch down upon, start punching back, this is awful, this is awful. >> joining us now, jackson, producer and, who appears in the film. welcome to you both. >> welcome, i have seen this,

i'm going to watch it again tonight. this is such a really, really great msnbc film and it left me with more questions than answers, so what was the goal of the documentary of this film because i was looking for a definition of cancel culture and i came out thinking well goodness, i guess it depends on who you are and your vantage point here on where you land on that particular answer. >> exactly, i mean, i think the point was to get a lot of people together to have a conversation. as the filmmaking team we were also curious, we didn't know what we would find and it was just a really interesting journey of conversation, exploration, learning new things and kind of like you mentioned, understanding what different people's point of views are, and trying to at least stay there long enough to hear some of the conversations. >> one of the things that i

think kiana and her team did very well is the fact that conservatives get upset about cancel culture but then they weaponized cancel culture. i was left with, how real is any of this? >> i think it's real in the sense that we don't know how to talk to each other, there's always been a mob mentality, predating this term, counsel culture, it's not like we knew how to talk to each other than and have discussions, the point was made in the film, it was people with power that were able to push down on people who don't, and this is really a pushing back. it's not perfect, and definitely when i think celebrities say they've been canceled, most times, they happened. it's just a matter of bad both city which has always been there and if anything, when you get quote unquote canceled, we've seen you come back

stronger, you have a new base of people that are rabid about you because of your political beliefs and you end up like, for more netflix specials. how does that lead to cancellation? >> but, hari, to get to those for more netflix specials, you've got to go to some is, a lot of noise, and one of the things, kiana that is interesting from my perspective, particularly being in the conservative space a lot, and hearing a lot of the wailing and gnashing of teeth about cancel culture as they are canceling people, i guess the question becomes, how do artists and public figures you know, navigate this space? if you are you know, a comedian, you want to talk about the culture and expose the culture for its fakeness, its lies, it's truth, but at the same time, not be knocked over the head for it as we've seen comedians in the past be

able to do. today, it seems a different space. what did you find inputting the production together is the thing that animates both the concern but also the opportunity to break up it, that mindset? >> this is something that actually comes up in the film. i think there are couple of people who say that this is part of the job now, you know, things change, things advance, and the level of connectivity that we have today, you have to hold that and you have to hold space for the fact that people are going to react and people who haven't always had a platform to say something might react to something that you've said. and that doesn't necessarily change your ability to say it. it just changes the dialogue, so i keep coming back to the idea that this is about having a conversation, being willing to have a conversation. if you said something that has really offended people, we need

to get rid of this idea that it's somehow embarrassing to come back and apologize or come back and say hey, i don't understand. we shouldn't be embarrassed to learn or embarrassed to grow. >> hari, in the film , some would say that you got a boom from the simpsons canceled. they talk about this part, and something i thought was poignant you said look, he wasn't canceled, he still there but they just don't feature him as much, where's the line between accountability and canceled, because i think it's a very fine, sometimes slightly transparent line. >> first of all i don't think abu is cancel because he's a cartoon character and also the people who make them are part of a multibillion dollar industry. so i don't think that is a real thing, you know, and accountability, a lot of times

it's up to the artist, you stand behind what you say even if you are quote unquote canceled, do you stand behind it or do you say, i learned something from this. i don't believe the same thing. most times people double down and say this is what i believe and i care about, and that i find courageous even if i disagree and there people like everyone's criticizing me, i'm being canceled, that's how art works, the fact that people are willing to listen to you and reply to you, standups complains all the time nobody cares about us, we are the lowest rung at the same time when people listen to us by criticizing us, it's like, you are being mean. who is actually the snowflake here, probably the artist. >> so what was the problem, he was just being criticized, there's a difference between canceling and criticizing? >> i will summarize this as quickly as possible. using paul robison as an example, most people don't know who he is, i think that proves

a lot of my point already, he was in the law profession, they were racist towards him, the people who were racist toward him weren't canceled, he was forced to leave his job ended up becoming an opera singer, and actually, the biggest star of the world in film, he had recordings out, makes a film that has a poor depiction of colonial africans and he gets criticized for the stereotypical depiction, did he backed down? did he make a big issue, no, he learned from it, changed his view of art and politics and ends up becoming part of the communist party. he -- the government goes after him, denies his passport, state departments is after him, goes after mccartney for the hearings, you know, he was the biggest star in the world especially in colonial countries, his films were stopped being shown, his recordings were destroyed, he was taken out of newsreels,

that's cancellation, that's what it is. >> hari, it's funny because what you don't know is when we did the panel discussion about this for msnbc domes, this point created a whole hullabaloo that almost turned into a town hall that revolted. not today. thank you so much for being here. you all can watch canceled, the story of cancel culture tonight at 9:00 eastern right here on msnbc. you do not want to miss it. up next, acting secretary of labor julie su will be at the table to discuss the new eye-popping jobs report. introducing allison's plaque psoriasis. she thinks her flaky gray patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis allison! over here!

otezla can help you get clearer skin and reduce itching and flaking. with no routine blood tests required. doctors have been prescribing otezla for nearly a decade. otezla is also approved to treat psoriatic arthritis. don't use otezla if you're allergic to it. serious allergic reactions can happen. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. some people taking otezla had depression, suicidal thoughts or weight loss. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. with clearer skin girls' day out is a good day out. live in the moment. ask your doctor about otezla. choose advil liqui-gels for faster, stronger and longer-lasting relief than tylenol rapid release gels because advil targets pain at the source of inflammation. so for faster pain relief, advil the pain away. times may change, but somethings remain timeless. feel how much softer and smoother

dove leaves your skin. dove is 1/4 moisturizing cream. i've been using dove beauty bar more than 25 years. after seven days, i feel like a brand new woman! ♪♪ i think beauty starts with nice skin. ♪♪ there are over 7 million us businesses on tiktok. my name is dana bellefeuille, and my husband and i own the village bakery. our mission is to employ people with different abilities. tiktok is allowing us to show what acceptance looks like. this is a community of just complete and utter love. it's the people that lift you up when you're down. people on tiktok do that on a daily basis, and i've never found a community like that ever. keep tiktok. my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day

blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. (vo) if you have graves' disease... for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. ...and itchy eyes, the truth may be even more uncomfortable. people with graves' could also get thyroid eye disease, or t-e-d, which may need a different doctor. find a t-e-d eye specialist at isitted.com.

friday's job report was a major sign that the biden economy is strong. the bureau of labor statistics reported that the u.s. added more than 300,000 jobs in just mark. joining us now is acting secretary of labor julie su. >> how did you position this jobs report? >> this jobs report is another sign that the biden economy is very strong. the jobs numbers indicates steady continued growth. it's not just in a single industry, it's across multiple industries. we saw growth in healthcare, growth in schools, growth in construction, and real wages are up. that means though wages, especially for the lowest

americans are higher than inflation which means more money and workers pockets, more breathing room for working families. >> madam secretary, i have to say, it is absolutely awful that 303,000 people who didn't have a job last month, got a job. oh my god, this economy is just imploding. what are you doing, hiring all these people, i don't understand? that is essentially what we are hearing from a lot of folks in my neck of the woods and i just want to be on this about what's happening because i'm happy when americans go back to work. i don't care under which president it happens, i'm happy that people get to go back to work because that is the essence of not just staking my claim in this american dream but proving that i can provide for my family, i can move forward. how do you convey the message to the country, despite the crazy noise i'm going to be polite this morning because it's sunday. but how do you push back

against the crazy noise that saying that everything that you are seeing is bad, inflation down from 9% to 3%, jobs up over 300,000 last month, certainly, you know prices are still high, but they weren't as high as they were a year ago. how do you make that conversation help the country turn with the economy, into the good times? >> i appreciate that. one of the things we say is good news is good news. and there's just no way to look at what's been going on since president biden came into office and look at the numbers, month after month and not say, items economic policies are working. take a step back to where we were just three years ago. covid was raging, the unemployment rate was skyrocketing, people didn't know if they were going to get 20 paper or baby formula and today, as you say, people are

in the labor market, they are looking for jobs and finding jobs. and real wages are up meaning that for the president, he wants every american who wants a good job to be able to find a good job that allows them to support their families. to have a little bit of security, to know when they retire that they are going to be able to retire with dignity and to be able to choose a union if they want. really, what we do is, we continue the work. we continue to deliver and travel, i'm traveling around the country as are my fellow cabinet members to visit programs that are bursting at the seams, i was in nevada visiting with teachers going to a school. one, because the teachers union in reno reached a historic agreement with the school district, 20% wage increase, this is something that is happening across industries also. we are seeing workers come to the bargaining table and get

conditions they did not have and also talking to teachers about how to recruit and retain teachers into good jobs because it's a calling, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be a job with dignity. >> this report is not just you know, a piece of paper or really a mini book. you talk about the teachers in reno, construction jobs across the country, the roads and bridges that are being worked on and then you look at this marquette law school poll that recently came out about who's better on the economy and 31% say president biden and 51% say donald trump. and then when he asked how much have you heard about the economy and in the same pole in terms of the inflation rate, 43% say a lot, 46%, a little, nothing at all, 11%. it's crazy because we talk a lot about inflation and the

recession that never came but not as much, we do not hear as much about unemployment rate, i think the president and the white house, that is something, you don't hear a conversation about the economy whenever i've heard you speak or the president speak or he doesn't talk about lower unemployment but that doesn't translate outward. how are you making this real for people out there because when we talk about wages being up and gdp, the fastest gd growth, that seems distant for some people but the teachers in reno are real. >> that's right, the woman i met in oregon, who learned about a women's only cohort for an apprenticeship program in the trades when she was at the welfare office as a single mom, now she's making four times more than she ever imagined and she's not working back. there are stories like that all

across the country. and you know, i think some of it is, people are still, you know, emerging from a very dramatic period. there's also a lot of, you know, as you mentioned, sometimes the news is not always accurate. >> you can say it, you can say it. >> for the president he has said, we are going to get this work done, whether you voted for me or not. i'm here to make sure that you have a good job, that you have safe roads and bridges, when you turn on the faucet you get clean drinking water and when you power up your laptop you get high-speed internet. those things are being delivered and i think that sentiment is changing. recent polls i've seen is that they are changing but for us the focus is on getting it done and meeting with americans not

just to say what we are doing but also here with the continued struggles are because we do know that we have more work to do. >> i know we are going to a quick break but i have a point on that, 51% out there that think donald trump, it was all good four years ago, let's talk about that. >> we will get a quick break in. we will be right back after a short break. short break. provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it's a great product. it's going to help a lot of patients. hi. i use febreze fade defy plug. and i use this. febreze has a microchip to control scent release so it smells first-day fresh for 50 days. 50 days!? and its refill reminder light means i'll never miss a day of freshness. ♪ if you have chronic kidney disease you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with farxiga. because there are places you'd like to be. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection

in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ (christina) with verizon business unlimited, i get 5g, truly unlimited data, and unlimited hotspot data. so, no matter what, i'm running this kitchen. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. [stomach growling] it's nothing... sounds like something. ♪when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion♪ ♪upset stomach, diarrhea♪ pepto bismol coats and soothes for fast relief when you need it most. ♪ music ♪ ♪ unnecessary action hero! ♪ pepto bismol coats and soothes ♪ unnecessary. ♪ was that necessary? no. neither is missing your daughter's competition to do payroll.

with paycom, employees do their own payroll so you don't have to miss your daughter's big day. time to shine. get paycom and make the unnecessary unnecessary.

acting secretary of labor

julie su is back with us. >> secretary, i want to draw your attention to an open letter about what we've seen transpire in baltimore, quote, while some extremists may want to use the latino community as a political wedge that depicts all latinos as a burden and a credit criminal element, the tragedy reminds us all of the reality of our communities role and daily sacrifice to keep our nation strong. often unseen and ignored, their contribution benefited thousands even as they were overlooked. this is how it often is everywhere around us. i'm struck by the fact that you look at the jobs report, immigration actually provided a boom to the numbers not often secretary, how we see immigration spoken about in this country. >> that's right, immigrant workers have throughout our history, done some of the most backbreaking work, some of the

difficult work, you know, given the 15 million jobs that have been created since the president came into office, there's been growth across every community. but maryland is a reminder, workers who are too often invisible literally and figuratively, they deserve our protection. those are men who came to this country, raise their families, hopefully, maybe kissed their kids goodbye before they left for the night shift and never came home. and we believe that every worker should not only have a good job where they are having good working conditions but every single worker should come home healthy and safe at the end of the day. so we honor those workers and we mourn their loss but as we say, we've got to mourn the dead but fight likefor the living. >> before we went to break, we referenced holding that show that 51% on who does a better

job on the economy, 32% say joe biden, 51% say donald trump. and republicans are now raising up the question, are you better off today than you were four years ago. so let's look at four years ago where we were on jobs, in march of 2020, 701,000 jobs were lost under the trump administration. march of 2024, 303,000 jobs were added. that's 1 million jobs swing to the betterment of the american people. what say you, madam secretary, to those americans who still think that the covid era of donald trump, they were better off than the recovery era of joe biden? >> i say, it's unfortunate, some people try to peddle a story of nostalgia for something that just wasn't

true. i say, i mean look at the numbers, the numbers don't lie. the last president kept talking about and infrastructure week that never materialized, biden has delivered on an infrastructure decade where we are seeing projects, shovels hit the ground in communities all across the country and it's irresponsible to suggest anything else, i don't know what else to say about that. >> one of the headlines from four years ago said in march 2020, was u.s. is nowhere near close to reopening the economy and they also talked about the bleach and the malaria drugs -- >> we were advised to bleach ourselves. >> alicea brought up the baltimore bridge tragedy. i know the president was in baltimore on friday and he

vowed that the bridge will be rebuilt with union labor. apparently, that touched off a fight. you've got npr saying that the president has said that the federal government would pay for the bridge, the conditions with union labor include -- to avoid all necessary delays and costs but if you waive the union regulations, address the folks that say, i understand what the president is saying but in order to get it done quickly, you are going to have to go around some loopholes. >> let's look at facts, one of the things that we know and that we have seen is union labor on construction projects helps to make sure that the projects get done on time and on task and on budget. not only does the work get done well, the workers who do it are trained, they are skilled, the structure is better in the long

run and the workers themselves know how to keep themselves safe and healthy. we talked about some of these jobs are dangerous, and workers have to know how to protect themselves. so the examples abound. look at the 95 rebuild. that was done by union labor and when you see union workers on a job, you know it'll get done the right way. >> that was the freedom caucus, those are the conditions they wanted and what you are saying is, they are using misinformation? >> the whole conversation is important for us to be fact taste but also remember that none of the games that we are talking about today, none of the things that have happened that are so positive were guaranteed, they were not promised. many people predicted they would never happen, this kind of job growth, for over two years running. that is because leadership matters. it's because the president came into office with a vision and

he understands through his experience how to deliver on the vision. that's what we are seeing what we are seeing. >> thank you so much for your time. we will be right we areback, fo. ted card make more of what's yours. (♪♪) (♪♪) try dietary supplements from voltaren, for healthy joints. she runs and plays like a puppy again. his #2s are perfect! he's a brand new dog, all in less than a year. when people switch their dog's food from kibble to the farmer's dog, they often say that it feels like magic. but there's no magic involved. (dog bark)

it's simply fresh meat and vegetables, with all the nutrients dogs need— instead of dried pellets. just food made for the health of dogs. delivered in packs portioned for your dog. it's amazing what real food can do. we're looking for adults 45 and under to be in our hpv vaccination ad. sound like you? nah...not me. in a relationship. if you're sexually active and unvaccinated, it could still be you. i'm too old if you're under 45, you're not. for most people, hpv clears on its own. but for those who don't clear the virus, it can cause certain cancers. wow... gardasil 9 is a vaccine given to adults through age 45 that can help protect against certain hpv-related cervical, vaginal, vulvar, anal, and certain head and neck cancers, such as throat and back of mouth cancers, and genital warts. gardasil 9 doesn't protect everyone and doesn't treat cancer or hpv infection. these diseases may have many causes. your doctor may recommend screening for certain hpv-related cancers. routine cervical cancer screenings are still needed.

you shouldn't get gardasil 9 if you're allergic to the vaccine, its ingredients, or yeast. tell your doctor if you have a weakened immune system, are pregnant, or plan to be. the most common side effects include injection site reactions, headache, fever, nausea, dizziness, tiredness, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and sore throat. fainting can also happen. help protect yourself against certain hpv-related cancers. talk to a doctor or pharmacist today.