good afternoon from washington d.c. and welcome to "alex witt reports" . right now, large protests in israel demanding the return of hostages in gaza and the resignation of israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu . talks for a cease-fire and hostage deal are set to resume in cairo tomorrow. six months to the day of the october 7th massacre. israel and hamas are sending delegations and is raising hopes that a truce could temporarily pause the nightmare unfolding in gaza. we have several reporters in place covering all of today's new developments we begin with nbc reporter from tel aviv. give us a sense of the pressure israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu is under from his own people and from the u.s. to reach a deal with hamas. >> reporter: he is under pressure, as you mentioned, from his own people. let me set the scene for you.

a large anti-trig12 protest that is dispersing now. many israeli people are fed up with the prime minister. he is deeply, politically unpopular. some of the protesters are saying at this stage they do not care what price israel has to pay to get passages out. this is coming on the day the 47-year-old man that was abducted from his commutes october 7th was retrieved. his body was retrieved from gaza and taken back to israeli land. he had appeared twice on video filmed by his captors. you can imagine the devastation of his family knowing that for several months he was alive and that he ended up meeting a fate inside of the gaza strip. i spoke to some of the demonstrators here tonight and some of them did express their frustration with israel's prime

minister benjamin netanyahu. they said everything needs to be done to resolve the situation and get the hostages out. >> the only thing that we had to do now in israel is to have our people come from gaza back. the second thing is to let israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu go because he is standing- because of political things et cetera. we should have another government. >> reporter: a couple other things i should mention. there are talks in cairo taking place with bill burns, the head of this cia. and the israeli spy agency. we understand hamas representatives and other officials. the hope is when it comes to protesters demonstrating

tonight, it is that some deal will be struck against continuing humanitarian devastation in the gaza strip with over 32,000 killed and near famine conditions in large parts of the territory. >> a tough situation and thank you for your reporting there. in washington d.c., lafayette -- lawmakers are set to return monday as democrats are pushing the biden administration to put conditions on military aid for israel. capitol hill responded julie tsirkin joins us from capitol hill. 40 members of congress signed a letter urging president biden to reconsider urging -- issuing additional aid package to israel. including former house speaker nancy pelosi and close allies are saying there may need to be conditions imposed on israel if more civilians are not protected. how significant are the new efforts by democrats? >> reporter: democrats, only

progressives, as they have said the entire time that israel needs to do more to protect the lives. now democrats and members of the establishment and moderate. those close to biden -like senator chris . in light of the strike that killed seven aid workers with the world central kitchen this week. saying enough is enough and it is time for israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu to step up his efforts to protect civilians to ensure there are no -- more core doors for you mentoring a. there putting pressure on the biden administration because they been seen protesters and their voters putting pressure on them. here's what chris , a very close ally of the president had to say yesterday on this. will talk about it on the other side. >> we are at the point where president biden have said and i have said that if israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu were to invade rafah at scale and drop thousand pound bombs and send a

battalion in to go after hamas and make no provisions for civilians and military and aid, i would vote to commission aid to israel. >> reporter: yamiche, i wanted to go portion of the letter that many congressional democrats signed onto in the house , nearly 40, including former speaker nancy pelosi. and notable signature added late last night. in part, in light of the recent strike against aid workers and increasing mentoring crisis, we believe it is unjustifiable to approve additional weapon transfers. like chris , a similar situation we reported yesterday. nancy pelosi's salesperson gave us a new statement walking those comments back slightly saying the speaker is sympathetic to some of the thoughts in the letter pushing the idea that she wants an independent investigation. that she perhaps did not support the full stop and halt of the arms transfer. continued to say that speaker pelosi knows that president

biden's support for israel is with empathy for the siblings in gaza and she respects his judgment in how to proceed. congress can >> on monday will have a tricky situation. they are considering aid to ukraine and now they are potentially having democrat spilling out from sending additional aid to israel and it could send the entire package into an area where we do not know what the outcome will be. we will stay on top of this as congress goes back to capitol hill. >> it is striking to see democrats shifting and president biden getting tougher in his language on israel. coming up later this hour i will be joined by former state department senior adviser talking about the growing concerns that iran has against israel. and she calls the devastating ripple effect will follow the killing of the world central kitchen aid workers. parts of the northeast are bracing for possible aftershocks that come after the historic 4.8 magnitude quake

hit new jersey yesterday. since then, there have been dozens of smaller tremors. experts say there could be more coming. we have reporting from new york city. george celisse. what to expect going forward? >> reporter: in the camp that felt it or did not feel it i am in the did not feel it camp. usgs officials say we can see more aftershocks. there have been 30 or so and they could be much smaller in size. in fact, they have been. that is what a lot of people have not felt them since the initial earthquake. an aftershock that was 4.0 which rattled a few more homes and moved furniture around. you nailed it on the head. this is a west coast problem. we usually do not see these kinds of things on the west coast into a lot of attention. we saw amazing videos from homes where things are moving around. pets reacting to it. a got a lot of attention here. now that we hear about the aftershocks, the concern is

could the big one be around the corner. one structural engineer we spoke with said people should not panic as new york city is meant to withstand a lot more than a 4.8. it is the wind that would be a bigger concern. we have that bit to get one. nyc itself has been on high alert. then would be issuing drones to inspect infrastructure including iconic bridges in the city to make sure they are sound and do not have any cracks. it has been the reaction because it is so rare and so unusual to see this that has been telling of how unusual the event is. we have a little bit of the reaction right now. >> i set up. literally, the entire room started shaking. a few items even fell. i looked outside and it looks like the street was moving a little bit. do not get me wrong, i have lived in the city for a decade. in 10 years i have never felt

anything like that before. >> reporter: it puts things into perspective. new yorkers used to seeing everything, it has been them thing that made everybody pause for a second. a lot of people we have spoken with and experts telling us no need to panic. the big earthquake was a long time coming. we do not want to see anymore quakes inner city. yamiche . >> some of my friends in york that it was a big truck going by my friends from california and live in new york knew immediately it was an earthquake. thank you for your reporting. no surprise that former president trump is getting help from donors with deep pockets. but there is something about his huge fundraiser tonight that is surprising. we are back in 60 seconds. seconds.

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it has been a bumpy road for former president trump and a social media company truth social since going public. the price of a share of trump media has plummeted. is making many companies multibillion-dollar evaluation. generally more as nbc news garrett heyd. >> a day before his truth social media company stock will go public, former president trump was pumping it up. >> truth social is doing very well as hot as a pistol and doing great. >> as a majority shareholder

and trump media technology, trump can make billions of dollars on the stock, depending on the price in six months when he would be legally allowed to sell it. critics say the stock price is wildly overinflated. trump using truth social to defendant writing, " radical left democrats are trying to convince people that truth is not such a big deal i think truth is amazing. " business analyst commenced. >> the way it is being valued in the stock market makes no sense as. investment. >> truth social is dwarfed by other social media platforms. is because 142 million monthly active users. x, formerly known as twitter, 75 million truth social 494,000 . according to digital intelligence company similar web. and, it is losing money. the company reporting and made $4 million in revenue last year and lost $58 million. the major draw is trump's own

truth social account. the stock price has been helped by his supporters. buying in to support their candidate. experts call it an unprecedented turn in how campaigns are financed. >> investors, by putting their money into truth social can help donald trump adam rich donald trump and further his campaign for president of the united states. this is a serious law and federal election law. >> a price of a share of trump media which trades under his initials dj t surged and then sputtered since its public debut. the price of a share falling 12% on friday. back to you. meanwhile tonight in palm beach, florida, donald trump is hoping to the cash in big-time. mega-wealthy republican donors are expected to turn out for a fundraiser that is projected to raise more than $50 million for the trump campaign. that number would nearly double the cash raised by president biden last week during his new york city event featuring former presidents obama and

clinton and a number of celebrities. the top price to attend trump's event is $814,000. that ticket will get you a seat at the president's table. the former president. tony finau is national politics reporter matt dixon. the trump campaign says it has secured commitments for more than $50 million for tonight's dinner. with cast stickley to the trump campaign or, could pay for mounting legal bills on his part? >> that continues to be the big question. there is a rift within the trump campaign and is the constellation of organizations in the rnc if money should go to the legal bills are not. what they will continue to focus on as a talking point is what you mentioned. it doubles the biden fundraiser last week with obama and clinton. that was seen as a record- breaking fundraiser. the campaign wanted to send a

message they will not just eat it, they will double it. the $50 million plus is important and something will hear a lot about. >> it is important because we learned today that the biden campaign raised a whopping $90 million in march alone. giving the campaign and affiliated fundraising groups 190 been -- $192 in the bank. will the trump campaign eat into that margin in a significant way? >> basic math, it will intuitively eroded to some degree. the worst kept secret in the election cycle is that democrats up to joe biden and down ballot to congressional and senate races will have to see it. the republicans acknowledge it and say let's manage the gap as best as we can and raise enough money to win. it was a massive march figure for biden and democrats. tonight will be good for former

president trump. i think the democrats and biden will maintain a healthy fundraising margin. >> and ask about the phenomenon we have seen happen after the attack on the capitol january 6th. in the article in which you share a byline you write, once reluctant republican donors have returned to the fold in the weeks since trump walked down the gop nomination. report that tonight's fundraiser will include several high-dollar donors have kept their distance from trump. why have the donors come back? is it like all the other republicans we've seen do about these or is it different? >> all of the billionaires coming back. that is a funny thing about mary's. and one is convinced they will not financially support our vote for the eventual nominee until they do. with the rare few exceptions everyone is coming home. there are folks that were ron desantis and nikki haley reporters will be at mar-a-lago tonight for the $50 million make. ken griffin is a name that comes out. a few billionaire types were sitting at the presidential contest. for the most part, almost everyone is coming back.

he is the nominee. we talk to a person, we may not love trump, but we do not want joe biden. when they are asked about this, it is the main line of why they decided to reverse course. >> you heard that from voters as well. it is not surprising that billionaires are coming out to support trump. many are clowning on him to be good for business. trump says he plans to take direct control of the doj and other government agencies. it is interesting. if you fall out of favor with former president trump, theoretically, your taxes or company to be investigated and he could get congress to pass a law against people he does not like. how much a rehearing for business leaders about their concerns over trump's threats when it comes to the rule of law how could hurt the economy? >> it is motivation to give to a political candidate i think some of that is involved. there billionaire types and those who are lower tier or big

business guys. maybe i do not support trump, but it might be for my personal business on my personal fortune or calculate that calculus to give money to trump the state's good graces. we do not give money to joe biden because it will be up trump' is radar and is not a good place to be. the idea that he will use some of the mechanisms you talked about to punish political foes has been talked about. there is no way to see if you will do that for sure. is on the mind of some folks at mar-a-lago tonight certainly people with him in the primary now are. >> i want to ask you about another businessman who is talking about trump. expedia german barry diller calling trump media, which made a big splash last week, a " scam. " he called the people buying the stock dopes. he joined the

chorus of investors saying the company is a meme stock, when he believes is likely to flop. what is your understanding of why trump's social media company which made for nine dollars last year- how does it have the evaluation of $6 million-i should say, six billion dollars with a b. it is striking a limit $4 million in how the evaluation. >> in florida, there are people that have looked into the windows and there is nothing there. the revenue it is bringing in. the first and had to file a joint operating losses is when we saw it. i think there are a lot of people, you set up perfectly. and meet people are starting to laugh at this to some degree. is started out looking great for trump and it quickly fell apart. >> if there are a lot of people wondering if it will fall apart more-thank you for joining us matt dixon.

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monday's rare total solar eclipse could be the most widely viewed in history. thousands are traveling by road and sky together across the eclipse path which stretches from texas to maine . nbc's morgan chesky is in kerrville, texas, which will be in the path on monday. morgan, what kind of turnout is expected and what do perforations look like? >> reporter: yamiche, good afternoon. a good question. right now, preparations are in place for potentially hundreds of thousands of people to

converge in kerrville on monday. we have been through town and had a chance to speak to a couple that came here from the netherlands so that they could hopefully witness the eclipse. they were little downtrodden in that the forecast calls for some clouds. everyone is crossing their fingers for perfect weather and that is the case of the road in ennis, texas, the bluebonnet capital of the world. here's what they are saying about the big moment come monday. >> a lot of preparations are happening to receive this huge influx of people. we cannot be anymore expected the amount of people that selected justice ketanji brown specifically from all over the world. we have a family from new zealand. a photographer from paris and a group from london and a group from india. they all pinpointed ennis specifically for multiple reasons. we have totality of over four minutes and they are expected about the dark skies . a lot of

people want to get away from the big cities. >> reporter: yamiche, the path of totality has been interesting from texas to maine back. airbnb says nine out of 10 of its listings in the 100 mile swath of land the eclipse will be taking place at our sold-out. that is how many people are coming to that one specific area hoping that the once in a lifetime experience with the sun, moon and earth all aligned. to give us several minutes of darkness. here in kerrville the magic number is 4:20 of total darkness taking place clouds are not. they expect birds may go to roost. city lights will be coming on thinking it is nighttime. there will be a lot of unique experiences happening. i have to go tell you, having been born and raised here, the chance to experienced all of this with family makes it that much sweeter. >> what a treat to be there with your family. i am looking forward to it. thank you morgan. breaking news out of

florida where at least two people are dead and seven others are injured, including a police officer after gunmen opened fire at a bar in doral in miami dade county. we have a report with more. >> reporter: it is been over 12 hours now at this point. people who witnessed this say they are reeling from what they witnessed. to set the scene, we are in doral, miles away from miami. this is called city place a really popular family have been from the place by day around the corner is a place known as martini bar. one of the few establishments in doral open until 4:00 am. is known for its life -- life. around 3:30 a.m. the chaos turned deadly there were nine people shot and two of them did not survive, including a security guard who worked there. our understanding from what we have heard from people that witnessed it, along with police, is there was an

altercation that broke out sometime around 3:30 a.m. one of the people in the altercation produced a weapon, a firearm specifically. when the security guard at the martini bar went to intervene, they were shot and killed. there was more chaos that followed. you had two doral police officers involved that were shooting at the person with a weapon. that initial person was also shot and killed. one of the two was killed from this incident. there was of course so many other people that were shot, bystanders. one of the bystanders is currently in critical condition. one of the officers was also shot. we have the chaos of people being rushed to the hospital and being treated outside of the bar. in terms of how the establishments here are doing, we know that city place and martini bar have expressed their condolences. we know several businesses here remain closed as officers and detectives continue to gather and process evidence. everyone is reeling from the

sudden and unexpected tragedy overnight. >> a heartbreaking situation. the stormy daniels film the jury will not be watching at former president trump's first trial.

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donald trump is attempting a new delay tactic ahead of his new york hush money trial which is set to begin in just over a

week. late yesterday his lawyers issued a 37 page filing renewing the call for the judge overseeing the case judge merchan to recuse himself because of his daughter's work as a consultant for democratic candidates. they have tried this once before in august. the judge, relying on advice from judicial ethics committee rejected their efforts. earlier this week, the manhattan district attorney office told the judge in a letter that there is no reason for the judge to change his mind because of circumstances have not changed. and trump's arguments are a daisychain of innuendos joining me now is kristy greenburg, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analysts -- analyst. form and trump promised evidence linking the firm of his daughter to campaign solicitations that mentioned rackley the manhattan district attorney's case. did donald trump and his attorneys expose the links or is there any evidence of that shown? >> as you said, judge merchan that with the motion for

recusal based on his daughter's employment creating, actual or perceived conflict of interest. he dealt with that on august 2023 and denied the motion. trump pass to now claim there is new evidence or changed circumstances that will get the court to reconsider. he points to three things. one, trump is the presumptive republican nominee and that warrants a change. that does not change the conflict analysis the judge already entered into. the second, as you mentioned, they focused on the need for recusal based on judge merchan's daughter's letter x account. saying there is no evidence based on that. but, that account has not belonged to her for over a year. she deleted the account over a year ago. any recent posts cannot be interested to her. therefore, are not new evidence that should support a recusal. the third thing they point to our recent comments from the

judge. which said he was preparing for the trial and he would be impartial. none of which is a basis for recusal. there is nothing on earth that is new in the motion that would support a basis for recusal. all this is, is the runaround of a gag order that prevents donald trump from attacking the daughter of the judge and his lawyers have taken up the bidding for him. which is improper. i do not see this coming 10 days before the trial is anything other than a delay tactic that the judge will dismiss. >> you broke down what they are arguing and what the responses could be to the arguments. i want to dig into the argument that the circumstances have changed. trump is the likely republican nominee. is there any chance the judge will buy it?

what is the process for judge merchan to make a decision on the motion? such i don't think there is anything to it. at the time the motion was made and it was decided in august 2022 trump was running for president when the decision was issued. the fact that he was a candidate and his presumptive nominee is not a change of circumstances that would change the analysis of a conflict of interest from the court. i do not think it will move the needle. i think the judge will issue a ruling on this rather quickly. you will see the ruling this week. the trial is scheduled to start on monday the 15th. we are a week away from the trial starting. i think you will get a quick decision from the judge dispensing this and saying he can stay on the case. >> a quick timeline. there is more bad news for former president trump ahead of the trial. judge merchan denying his bid

to subpoena nbc universal for information involving stormy daniels and the documentary that recently aired on peacock. the judge said in the decision that trump's claims were, " speculative and unsupported and his demands are the very definition of a fishing expedition. " what were trump's lawyers looking for and couldn't hinder his defense? >> donald trump was issuing a subpoena to universal seeking all materials related to the jen psaki. the early state, premier, editing, promotion and agreements nbc had with stormy daniels. how much she is getting paid and anything relating to the case. it is over-broad and seeking general discovery that a criminal defendant is not entitled to. donald trump claimed the materials they were seeking would somehow establish collusion between nbc universal

and stormy daniels relating to the date of the release of the documentary. nbc's position was stormy daniels had nothing to do with the date of when the documentary would be released she did not have approval rights over that. you are getting trump's claims as being purely speculative. he had no evidence to back up what he was saying. at that point, that is why the judge said it is a fishing expedition. you are not entitled to this broad discovery is a criminal defendant in a case as a third- party. >> a lot to look forward to and to keep an eye on when you think about the fact that trial is coming up so soon. thank you for your reporting. stretch inside the minds of michigan voters. what some of them are saying about unions, the economy, the border and more. rder and more. n isn't just for kids.

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in the race for the white house, the swing state of michigan will be key. but with seven months to go before election day, what are voters thinking and is there time to change the minds? in the third installment of the siders focus group we spoke to 50 michigan residents from union households about who they are supporting and where they stand on important issues. here to help me break it down as margaret tallis director of

the circus institute for democracy, journalism and citizenship. she helped to conduct the focus group. thank you for being here. we spent a lot of time watching the focus group late-night together. all of these participants were either members of the union or lived with someone who is in a union. president biden was largely seen as a group by being pro-union. here is what one had to say. >> the last few years i have watched our power become stronger. right to work laws are certain to get repealed and salaries are going up. they are starting to listen to us. i am starting to feel like our voices are being heard. >> even though trump was not seen as pro-union, another voter explained why she supports trump. >> because i think he is pro- worker. i think he knows how to get jobs out there. the taxing the rich and everything is great except the

rich are the ones that provide the jobs. >> margaret, there is a lot of talk of campaign messaging. what is your biggest take away on that front as you hear voters talk about prounion versus per worker? >> it was a fascinating evening with 15 voters. i think you are right, i was struck by the language. if you say you are pro-union, does that make a union member want to vote for you? yes for many, but not necessarily all. for those already prefer donald trump the rationale- by the way they all say he is not only pro- union he is anti-union and not a union guy. we asked what you would support someone who is not for unions. some said because they believe he is for them individually or for workers for all workers, not just workers who are union members. others say- look, a lot of people do not trust

institutions. people who prefer donald trump feel their union has not done enough for them. it was a very interesting dynamic. i was naked about biden's language versus bernie sanders' language. if you listen to bernie sanders speech read bernie sanders press release you will see the word worker more than you see union. i think it is an area where the biden team could be paying attention. people want to feel seen and heard. for a lot of these of the more disillusioned side of workers, being a union member or voting on union issues are doing what union leadership wants him to do is not at all central to their calculus about how they are thinking about the vote this year. >> that is clear. there is a divide between union leaders and rank-and-file. i want to ask about the issue of the border. this group was questioned about the border and why it is such an important issue even though michigan is not close to the

southern border. here's what we heard from them. >> is not just the southern border. there are 90,000 new illegals in our state. it is an issue because they are straining the resources here. >> to me, my personal opinion is that democrats are better than republicans -- blame the republicans and the republicans blame the democrats and either want to fix it. >> this focus group got feisty when you talk about biden voters and trump voters arguing here. what do you make of the fact that democrats and republicans agree the border is a problem and what impact it had on the election? >> it is a real vulnerability for president biden. on one hand, was on the focus group panels is partisanship drives your view of unions and not the other way around. this is one issue that seemed to unite people across partisan

lines. it is fear. that is the right word to use. fear about the implications of an authorized migrant crossing at the southern border. some worried about the impact on resources. will it impact hospitals or schools? some are worried about drugs is this part of why there are problems with easy access to fentanyl and things like that in communities. others are worried about the impact of crime and it doesn't matter what the statistics are. this is the psychology of how some voters feel. if you have to stronger and immigration are how you think biden has handled migration versus trump, most of them sought donald trump is having been stronger in the past and would be prioritizing it more in the future. most did not emphasize that they were concerned about separation of families or any of the more extreme or controversial aspects of trump's record on these issues.

for different reasons, they were concerned about it, but it was something that most of them said was a top concern. >> definitely a top concern for them. finally, participants were questioned about what would affect their vote between now and november. take a listen to what they said. >> let me cut to the chase if convicted of a felony before the election but doesn't affect if you would vote for him or not? >> yes. >> in what way? >> i do not think we should have a convicted felon as president. >> in your mind bow, would be i will vote for -- awful for america if trump or biden won? the correct. such would be the same version of awful? >> probably not. >> the second person said she is planning to vote for jill stein. if the choices were between donald trump and joe biden she would not vote at all, especially given what we heard from that person and the idea that some people change their minds if former president trump is convicted, how could that

have an impact on the selection. >> there were two things that could change how people were leaning. one is a potential conviction for donald trump. on the biden side, it is the economy. if the economy got worse he may consider voting for donald trump. it is existence of other candidates. someone like jill stein or robert f. kennedy jr. it shows how they could be spoilers for people who do not want trump or biden, but decide they want to vote. i was also struck by a woman we have not talked about yet that said she probably was not going to vote. she did not like either one. she considered them two bags of trash and did not think her vote counted anyway. there are a lot of states where the voters will go the way the vote goes. there are a handful where an individual has been vote really matters and michigan is one of them. >> it was striking to hear the motor talk about michigan say

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today, new reports of iran planning a possible attack inside israel. white house officials telling nbc news they are on high alert for a possible attack by iran in retaliation for an israeli strike on the iranian consulate in syria that killed several senior officials this week. joining me now is former state department senior adviser in msnbc columnist, thank you for being here. so, we should just cut to the chase here. i mean, do we feel like iran is going to be attacking israel here, and could the u.s. and u.s. officials possibly be on the attack, as well? >> here is the challenge of the current situation, with netanyahu being so focused on

the war in gaza, this is what administrative defense, analysts have been saying for weeks if not months, that israel is now vulnerable on other fronts. the chaos that has come out of gaza has resulted in houthis attacks, backed by iran, and now hezbollah acting up in the north of israel. so, iran is hoping to seize this opportunity, and it is believing that israel is distracted, and that israel's allies are not 1000% behind netanyahu at this moment and that is what a regime like iran tries to do, take advantage of movements of dissent. >> and i want to talk to about this heartbreaking story that happened, which is the world central kitchen aid workers being killed. now, the world central kitchen rejected the idea of finding

something that the idf cannot credibly investigate its own failures in gaza after they said that they had let go of some officials related to the attack. tell me, what do you make of the fact that they are now pushing for this independent investigation? do we think that could actually happen here? >> traditionally, independent investigations have happened either through the united nations or one of the international criminal justice bodies, for example. the challenge we have in this one is that for most of the time, on the global community, the united states has been the one to have israel's back, understandably, given iran and others in the region that still chant "death to israel." but, when it comes to accountability for the killing of aid workers, this attack on jose andres's team is not the first one by idf. it is actually dozens of them over the course of the last several months, and because israel has such a tense relationship with u.n. bodies, it does seem difficult that a

fully independent investigation will be possible and i will say this, the united states itself for the challenges that have happened in iraq, in afghanistan, has not allowed independent investigations into u.s. activities, as well. so, this is traditionally what happens when countries with power, countries that are the ones driving the force of the war typically do not want independent bodies looking at their activities. >> i want to ask you about hamas and israel having talks, do you feel like there is any sort of optimism there, given the fact that hamas is participating, at least, in this? >> the hamas organization has representatives in cutter right now, which is where we see officials from the united states, from israel, and other interested ally countries gathering to try to figure out a path forward. now, hamas and netanyahu's regime don't see eye to eye on anything. neither one truly believes in a

two state solution. so, that aspect is a nonstarter, this idea of this being a moment to have a negotiation about the final boundaries of palestine and israel. what they are hoping to negotiate on is the release of hostages and a cease-fire. and what the terms would be of that, what needs to happen first. there is a lot of distrust, particularly in this moment, where it does not seem that either side is willing to leave what happens in the room. they are definitely playing on the interests of other parties, they are both conducting their own pr campaigns. so at the moment, hamas is saying that israel cannot negotiate in good faith when they are attacking aid workers and israel is saying that hamas has no interest in really releasing hostages. >> well, a situation we will definitely continue to watch closely. thank you so much for being here. that will do it for me on this addition of "alex witt reports" i am yamiche alcindor and we will see you again tomorrow.