that is what we do we want this >> the men's final four to come today. first up, one seed purdue playing cinderella in the state. -- nc state. the 11th seed. >> honestly, at first i did not the guns, here. it is an absolute blessing. >> and one seed uconn tipping off with four seed alabama. crimson tide rolling into the first-ever men's final four. >> we have goals and ambitions to win the whole thing. >> the men's final four tips off tonight. we will know that championship match up later this evening and that championship game is monday night. in cleveland, all eyes on the women's game tomorrow afternoon. >> jesse kirsch, thank you so much. coming up, yet another headache for trump's campaign. and robert f. kennedy jr. may be to blame for it.

good afternoon from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome to "alex witt reports" . i am ali vitali in for alex. breaking news on the national security front. new and growing concern in the white house. two u.s. officials telling nbc news the biden administration is worried iran may launch strikes against targets in israel in retaliation for israeli airstrikes in syria killed several senior iranian officials. as lovers of congress returned from recess, new reaction to the fight for israeli funding with democrats raising questions. in congress right now, there is a lot of activity. a lot of engagement with the biden administration about what comes next. is very clear is that we do not have a sense of what the strategy is going forward and what is its that netenyahu is trying to accomplish at this

point? we want to see security for the israelis and palestinian people. we want to see hostages released. right now, we do not through the strategy is and how they will get there. also knew today, abc news reporting on a new u.s. intelligence bulletin that warns that radicals in the u.s. may respond to crisis calls for tax after last month's attack in moscow. excitement among voters after the supreme court paved this week to put abortion officially on the ballot in florida. >> they are expected about the possibility of having real freedom in this country again. expected about reproductive freedom and opportunity to make sure we are carrying about what is going into the atmosphere and air and we have a greener space. of battle of black-tie donors. after a record-breaking fundraiser at radio city music

hall, they have raised $90 million in march alone. while big money donors will pull out triplex at trump's fundraiser tonight. the biden campaign highlighting one pertinent contrast. we are not spending money on legal bills. we are not talking gold sneakers or any of that stuff. the money we are raising, we are going straight to the voters. >> not the sneakers. we have reporters covering fundraising efforts from both candidates. we begin with aaron gilchrist with president biden and wilmington, delaware. alaska the sneakers you are wearing. let's talk about the big fundraising numbers. a lot of money for 31 days. how did they do it and what is going towards? >> $90 million just in the month of march alone.

the biden campaign seen in the first quarter of this year they were able to raise $187 million and the point to a grassroots fundraising effort as the driver for these good numbers we are seeing from the campaign month after month. 90 million justin march. 96% of the donations to the biden/harris campaign, a larger democratic campaign effort around the country has come from donators donated $200 or less. they point to a grassroots effort that they say is enthusiastic, is strong and is growing and will enable the campaign and campaigns down the ballot to stuff up in a way that we do not typically see perhaps as early and an election season. they are already adding hundreds of staffers to the hundred plus campaign offices opened in the first quarter of this year. the biden/harris campaign saying they are able to start organizing in new ways to adopt new tactics to organize and get to people on the ground. they have made a big deal about

the idea of having personal interactions with people and being able to reach people in ways digitally, for example, that perhaps they about that and campaigns past. i want you to hear a little bit of a post that president biden did today that talks about the money campaign has been able to raise and also takes a swipe at former president trump. >> this campaign is scranton versus palm beach. it is a grassroots campaign of nurses, teachers, firefighters and cops versus donald trump in a couple of billionaires looking for tax cut. >> we have been hearing more and more of the last few months. the president directly going after former president trump in campaign ads and on the campaign trail as well. we can expect that as the campaign season continues and ramps up closer to the conventions this

summer and election in the fall, i think we will hear more of president biden taking it to former president trump in terms of his ability to out-raise the former president in terms of money. also, the policies he is trying -former president trump would try to advance. president biden said he is a much better option for voters, november. >> i imagine we will see more of that ramp-up. thank you for joining us. meanwhile donald trump is trailing with cash on hand. he is hoping he could change tonight when he holds a donor gala in florida. let's go to nnamdi egwuonwu some have been hesitant to backtrack. how crucial will the newfound support be to the trump campaign? >> it will be huge, specifically for the trump campaign and rnc as they saw slow start to fundraising this year. you are having former supporters of ron desantis and former donors to use to support draw -- trump in the distance

himself. they are returned to the fold and it is significant to the trump campaign. tonight's expected commitment makes it different. to get started $230,000 and go up as high as over $800,000. they are set to rake in over $50 million. he noted it would be double what the biden campaign says it raised in its fundraiser earlier last week. it is important to note that the biden campaign has responded to that releasing its fundraising numbers today and also, it's campaign finance chair saying there were contrast between biden and trump. >> he may put up some money tonight with his hedge fund billionaires and friends in a closed-door fundraiser in palm beach. we understand that. we would never trade our campaign and our strategy, just comparing last thursday's event in new york with over 5000 people. a sold-out venue in the most iconic venue in the united states.

people giving everything they can from $25 to more than that. that is the kind of grassroots enthusiasm that is fueling us. >> the biden campaign says 96% of its first quarter donations were from grassroots supporters. another key difference we will see is starting april 15th you will see donald trump in a courtroom more. will be watching to see how he balances the courtroom obligations with the need to campaign and fundraising. i want you to take a look at this truth social post from today. he referred to himself as a modern day nelson mandela and told his followers he is sacrificing his freedom on their behalf. you can inspect more rhetoric like that from former president trump as he hits the campaign trail next week in pennsylvania and in its fundraising text to supporters. we have seen the more trump leads into the idea that he is being persecuted, the more money his supporters seem to throw out to them. >> he is saying he is nelson mandela and is like an insult to alexey navalny.

thank you for joining us. breaking news in donald trump's classified back in its case we are learning trump and his codefendants have filed a new report outlining where they believe the trial should be delayed. with in studio is dave ehrenberg, attorney from palm beach, florida. you will not be shocked they want to delay the trial. this was a report quest -- requested by judge cannon did what does this breaking news mean? >> trump is going to say, as he is, that he needs more time to review documents from the government. the judge should have no tolerance for this and get the show on the road. judge cannon has given into his repeated requests for delays. she is given a lot of difference and she will grant as many delays as trump wants. there is no way this trial will take place before the election. it is a shame. in my mind as a prosecutor, it

is the strongest case against trump. >> a lot of us watching us from washington d.c., we know the doj will not bring them unless they have the goods. that is why we are watching the delay tactic play out in a place like florida. the other thing we are looking at is judge cannon and jack smith, the prosecutor in the case seem to be headed for confrontation. we have watched a lot of trading for barb's. he threatened to seek removal. you call that the nuclear button. judge cannon denied the electric at motion and is it a minor dustup will spill over into the trial and again, make it harder for voters to see it get adjudicated before november. --? >> she is the judge on the trial and expect jackson to seek her recusal. what is happened so far as transmit is threatening to call her manager essentially she is saying, go ahead and do that, but you need my permission first i will give you a final order to appeal and will keep you in this perpetual state of legal purgatory. and must frustrate jack smith

and he may force her hand by forcing her to rule on something . i do think in his mind he thinks he cannot get a fair shake from this judge. >> we are seeing the frustration folio over -- oil over. we were joking earlier with katie filling. -- phang. i like the idea that i will call your manager. >> the next question really is, what will jack smith do? because a judge was saying something where she is kept the door open to continuing down the struck. and he has to do something. will be too late? >> i think he stays the course. he makes his arguments and pushes for rulings. i would not go as far to say

incompetence. it is not a reason to recuse. >> where do you fall on this? between two legal analyst i turn to all of the time which side are you on? stay the course or get a recuse? he wants a recuse but i don't think you can do it yet. you have the jury instruction debacle on her interpretation of the records act is erroneous. she did not issue a final order on jury instructions and there is nothing to appeal. she wants him to engage in discussing this. a motion to eliminate would prevent donald trump from using the defense at trial putting it into jury instructions. if judge cannon rules against the motion and then he gets in removal. >> at the guy was looked up as an open shut kates -- case. a surprise it has dragged on so far >> the mar-a-lago document case? no. >> i have the clarified. >> because there are four.

o'mara lago document case is the strongest. is only defense is that he mentally declassified document like a jedi mind trick. he things if he can delay this long enough you will not have to come up with the defense as he will become president again in order his attorney general to drop everything. so far, that strategy is working. >> i have one question for you from your home turf. trumps home turf also what are you hearing there and light of the donor confab happening tonight? >> the donor confab is happening my hometown down there. somehow my invitation was lost in the mail. john paulson who is hosting it is for real. he is legit. if he says he will raise $49, perhaps it goes back to the old adage. democrats fall in love and republicans fall in line. it is no surprise the republicans are coming out to support their guy, especially when their guy is so transactional.

to begin get tax cuts from him. they know he will return their phone calls. is not be a surprise. they are coming home. >> that something we have seen over the active primary with more than a dozen people at one time vying for this nomination. and almost all of them of an in line behind trump except nikki haley. coming up, what could be a megaplex point in u.s. relations with israel. we are back in 60 seconds. seco. in as little as 14 days. now i can help again. feel the difference with nervive. (♪♪) (♪♪) try dietary supplements from voltaren, for healthy joints. do you own a lot of bras, but not a single one you really love. it's time you got into a wireless bras from knix. the ultimate in comfort and support, in sizes up to a g-cup. visit knix.com to find a wireless bra you'll love.

now to overseas and breaking news from cairo this weekend. top officials from the u.s., israel, qatar and egypt are meeting in the hope of reaching a gaza cease-fire and hostage deal. hamas confirmed it will send a delegation to join the talks on sunday. six months into the war pressure for a cease-fire is growing following the israeli strike that killed so many monitoring aid workers in gaza this week . we are reporting from tel aviv. president biden urged israel's

prime minister benjamin netanyahu to take a deal during the call last week saying, according to a readout, " and make immediate cease-fire is essential . " what do we know about where the negotiations stand right now and what are the israeli people tell you about it? >> reporter: you mentioned the important meeting in cairo with hamas city representatives. it is an interesting and significant development. there is a lot of pressure on israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu from the u.s. president has on people. just setting the scene, i am at a demonstration breaking up . there were 30 -- thousands of israeli people calling on israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu to find a way to free more than 100 hostages still in captivity in gaza on a day that we learned one of those hostages was retrieved and the body was buried and taken back into israeli territory that is something that the family of the hostage is devastated about. they are rightfully blaming

churchill for its. i spoke to the demonstrators earlier. i asked them what price do you think israel should pay to get their hostages back? would you support the idea of a permanent cease-fire? this is what one of them told me a short while ago. >> i do not care. i want them back. first, bring them back. our government elected them and now, the first thing should be to bring them back. cease-fire or whatever. then we do with hamas. first and foremost, bring them back. >> reporter: that was pretty representative of the view of the people attending this protest that has been a weekly demonstration. thousands of people calling on israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu to step down and call elections immediately . this is happening against the backdrop, as we've been

reporting, for months of a deteriorating monitoring situation in gaza which is reeling from the depths of the seven relief workers from world central kitchen. >> great reporting and thank you for joining us. for more, now is aaron david miller, senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace and former arab-israeli negotiator for the u.s. state department. we call this an inflection point. is it? we asked a similar question after 21 palestinians were killed trying to get it last month. arguably, not much has changed since then. >> i worked in the middle east 27 years working on the israeli -palestinian issues. i would not talk about anything frankly as an inflection point. i have seen a relationship with israel and the u.s. go up and down. it is increasingly fraught because the two main drivers

the relationship did not start over seven. it has been building. the perception that israel and americans have common values and interests. the biden administration has put israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu on what i describe his probation . i think he is giving israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu a test that the prime minister is qualified to pass. fundamentally alter your position on the mentoring assistance and do everything you can-just remember, it is not just one hand clapping. the other party, hamas, holds roughly 134 hostages. 34 of whom israeli people believe died october 7th and the bodies were taken to gaza, or they died in captivity. with respect to the cease-fire, the lateral point, it depends on whether hamas as well is ready for a deal. i suspect the u.s.-israeli relationship will survive, but we are in for tough weeks ahead. >> certainly, has been enduring.

but when you look at the reporting on the ground at the protest in tel aviv and you hear people say, just get the hostages and we will deal with the cease-fire later is it surprising sentiment to you as someone that knows the region so well? >> it is not surprising that the hostages are the most urgent issue. every single pole suggests that it fast majority do not care about the mentoring issue in gaza. and, once it's government, the israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu government , as much as they do not him, they want the people back. including against -- his successor benny gantz. they want the continued prosecution of the war. the israeli public is not unified in what the key priorities of the war should be. they want it ended, but they want to see hamas destroyed. it will be extremely difficult

lift. especially for the idf. >> the white house has adjusted it will make policy changes if israel fails to protect civilians. listen to john kirby on the today show yesterday. >> is the u.s. prepared to cut military aid to israel if you do not see the results you want? >> i don't want to get ahead of the president to close on his decisions. he made it clear yesterday that if we do not see meaningful changes in the policy we will have to make changes in our policy. >> there is a legal of vagueness and that is john kirby doing his job. is that negotiation tactics -- tactic? >> when it comes to israel, red lines have a way of turning pink. with the hezbollah of collation, we are waiting anxiously for what iran's response is. they are threatening to respond in a major way to israel's

strikes against iranian revolutionary guard corps officials in damascus. i do not think the president has any intention right now of sending a signal that he is about to punish israel by ending u.s. military assistance. now is not a good time to do that. frankly, i think joe biden does not want to do that. he is hoping there will be changes in israeli policy . >> biden has been under a lot of pressure from democrats to impose conditions on military aid to israel. the latest saint they would support conditions on aids. including chris , a close ally of the president. even though his team has walked it back a little bit. biden has been reluctant. what could the major leverage here be that biden has in his back pocket and why hasn't he used it yet? >> there are three possible lovers. the one you referred to. restriction or ending military assistance. in six months, he has refused

to do that and i don't think he will. second want to change america's boating posture in new york. abstaining on security issues or voting for them or introducing america's own. the third issue is abandoning the idea of negotiation for hostages and simply joining the international committee and course of the international community that wants an immediate cessation of hostilities. he is not done that. in for an immediate cease-fire. there is no question he is linked that to the return of hostages. there will not be a cease-fire and frankly, i don't think joe biden would support with unless hamas agrees to return at least a limited number, the 45, elderly, infirm and women that hamas has been holding. i think it is a fraught time in the relationship. i am thinking the administration , joe biden personally does not want to sustain a public breach

with mx israeli prime ministers that has the support of the vast majority of the israeli public with respect to hitting hamas and hitting it hard. >> warmer question for you as we look at the region at large. the fact that there is concern that iranians may strike inside israel in response to the attack that they saw at one of their outposts in syria earlier this week that killed several iranian officials. is that your unfounded or is there a reason, as peter baker said earlier, the white house is on edge? >> they should be. if in fact iranians choose to strike israel proper or even lower mx travertine embassy somewhere, i think the israeli government will be under enormous pressure to cross what i think would be a red line and a trigger for the prospects of a regional war.

that is a direct strike on iranian assets in iran. if that should happen, i think it will be extremely difficult depending on how the eskimo tory matter plays out -- eskimo tory matter plays out in the united states. you could end up with something we've never seen before. a major regional war with ballistic missiles. and the reason for a regional confrontation. i hope you're not going there. >> you paint a concerning picture. aaron david miller, thank you and we present your expertise. the north east is not out of the woods. how long the threat from aftershocks will last after the earthquake. plus, what you do not know about monday's solar eclipse. o and you need scotts turf builder rapid grass. it's revolutionary mix of seed and fertilizer that grows grass 2 times faster than just seed alone. giving you a stronger lawn.

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george, officials in the tri-state area are assessing whether the earthquake and aftershock caused any damage. what is the latest and should we expect more aftershocks to come? >> reporter: you are in one of two camps. you felt the earthquake or you did not. i did not feel it. to that point, officials across the tri-state in new york city are monitoring and checking buildings or checking infrastructure from the bridges to make sure there were no cracks created after the earthquake or the subsequent aftershocks. the usgs saying there have been 30 so far. some of them are smaller in scale and some people have not felt them. one structural engineer tells me in new york city it is a concern about the wind than the actual shaking of the building. nobody is taking any chances as it is such a rare and historic event that occurred here in the east coast. people felt it as far as maryland all the way up to maine . a rare impact and how far the shockwaves went. the reaction as we've seen in

the videos, they are pretty dramatic. when we see homes shaking and not something we are use to on the east coast by any stretch. friends on the west coast saying it is an average day for them to see something like this. here, it resonates differently. and the reaction matches it. let's take a listen. >> i was seated and my mom called to ask if i thought something. i did feel a rumble on the train and the train shook a little bit. it was scary. i called everyone to let them know i was okay. it was creepy and scary. >> reporter: again, the usgs saying 30 aftershocks we could see more in the coming days if not weeks after the earthquake. again, officials telling us it does not appear the city would be in any real peril unless it became a catastrophic-type earthquake. again, many are hoping that does not happen anytime in the near future. >> george, i feel less left out

knowing were left out together. thank you for joining us. today, thousands of americans are hitting the roads and skies to witness monday's solar eclipse. huge crowds expected together across the path which stretches from texas to maine . a rare opportunity to see the afternoon school -- sky go dark as the moon blocked out the sun. we are in kerrville, texas, part of the path of totality on monday. morgan, we talked of the crowds and how the mayor of your hometown has never experienced anything like this. what are you most expected for? when you talk to people who you probably grew up with there, what are they looking for as they gather for this exceptional moment? >> reporter: a once-in-a- lifetime experience, no matter how the weather plays out. what everyone is most expected about is the chance to have one central event that everyone can rally around and hopefully

experience together. we're not too far away from the city park that has been designated as the official eclipse watching zone here in kerrville, texas. come monday afternoon, all eyes on the sky and crossing fingers for no clouds to witness this once in a lifetime moment. the countdown is on for a celestial date with destiny. >> we've been talking eclipse for the last year and a half. >> reporter: come monday, a solar eclipse passing over 31 million americans living at the prized path of totality. >> we are directly on the centerline. >> reporter: the blue bonnet capital ennis, texas now capitalizing on its total darkness. >> all of our hotels open up bookings last april 8th and they were so that within two to three days. >> event so that for a year? >> yes. >> reporter: nationwide, airbnb says nine out of 10 booked

along the path from munich to texas. and and her family arriving just in time from germany. >> it is something special. it is not easy to come here from europe to be honest. >> reporter: other towns like kerrville, texas are planning. where i was born and raised. at gibson's cowboy hats, sitting next to all things eclipse. >> very good business. >> reporter: the town hoping to swell by nearly 10 times. have you ever had to plan for an maga event of this magnitude and scale x >> no. not in kerrville. this is above and beyond anything. all of our safety people have been planning for so long. they have our backs. they have this down. >> reporter: come monday, all eyes are looking up. >> reporter: right now, the forecast calling for plat --

partly cloudy skies and maybe scattered showers. growing up in texas, i can attest that you do not know what the weather will be until it is happening. there is a lot of optimism here on clear skies in kerrville. as for the crowds they were anticipating, doing a cursory search around downtown on main streets, we do not necessarily see the crowds yet. keep in mind we are 48 hours removed. more than enough time for everyone to converge and find their perfect eclipse watching spot. make sure you have the glasses on. >> we cannot wait to see yours. have some fun my friend. morgan chesky, thanks for joining us. next, a story about unintended consequences and the florida supreme court hearing that could come back to haunt republicans come november. publ.

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the abortion fight in florida is now headed to the ballot box as the state supreme court signed up on the which for proposed amendment to explicitly protect abortion in the state constitution. the court also upheld florida's 15 week abortion ban clearing the way for six-week man to go into effect on may 1st. that is one that florida governor ron desantis signed in the dead of night. is six-week band has no exception for rape or incest. 60% of voters in florida say they oppose restrictions.

democrats say it could change the game in the sunshine state. nikki friede, chair of florida democratic party is joining me. i have been expected to talk to you. i have covered eight or six florida elections at this point. my favorite state for politics. this amendment needs 60% to pass. we've seen red states give abortion advocates big wins in the post row area -- roe era. >> i think florida is next for multiple reasons. look at the coalition put together to get the requisite signatures to get onto the ballot. 1.4 million signatures were gathered in roughly 6 months with virtually no money. the coalition of grassroots organizers came from republicans and independents and from democrats. people across the state of florida understand what is six- week abortion ban means.

it means women across our state love life altering decisions to be made putting hindrances on our physicians and those seeking healthcare access. people are frustrated in the state of florida and i do believe we will cross the finish line and get over 60% because the coalition has been put together. >> that is immediate term on the ballot amendment. we talk with the senate race happening in the state. senator rick scott running for reelection says he would've signed the six-week man. his challenger farmer congresswoman debbie said -- her team said they take it as a game changer, despite the fact that the parts have not won a statewide race since 2018 i know because i covered it. what do you think is a game changer here in the senate contest? >> to your point, rick scott is back on the ballot. he has never won election by more than 1% in the state of florida. he is always running really close in elections. he has never run in presidential race. when you take all the sentiments into account where scott is underwater on literally most

every issue here in the state of florida including abortion and healthcare access, if you recall, not too long ago he was proposing to sunset the aca. sunset social security and medicare. these are the type of things that are really important to the people the state of florida. and they will hold rick scott accountable. with, energized in the base with a lot of resources coming to the state of florida, rick scott is vulnerable. i have no doubt that we will have an opportunity to take a nap the cycle. >> i look at this as the perspective of this is an energizing issue, but resources have always been a problem for democrats in florida. when biden's campaign says that it is winnable, either putting more money in? what does that look like and how do they get to that place? florida, as far as i have seen it, it is trump country. >> talking about trump country, he did not do too well the presidential primary a couple of weeks ago trump is in

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school of public service. my favorite people to talk politics with. during his rally last week in michigan-this week rather, trump referred to immigration issues as biden's border bloodbath. and the writing campaign is rolling out tv ads and seven battleground states with footage of trump declaring he was proud to have helped overturn roe v wade. you pair that in a state like michigan with what gretchen whitmer has done on the issue with enshrining abortion access and also, just this week, working to expand the ways families can have kids through ivf and easing surrogacy options. talk about how to keep the energy behind reproductive healthcare if you are a democrat. and if you're worried about it on immigration said. >> you are exactly right. the bottom line is immigration and reproductive rights are two of the biggest issues that voters will think about me go to the polls. the good news for president biden is number one, democrats and once again to the table in congress with a bipartisan deal on immigration

republicans are the ones that killed it and said no thank you . we will not pass up historic immigration policy that we can pass because we tried to give biden the wood. on reproductive rights, democrats are hands-down the party making sure women will be able to make a choice about their health care. donald trump is on the put pro- life supreme court justices on the court. democrats are fighting in every state to expand rights. we have to go to the state. the issues and it comes to immigration and repetitive rights are on president biden's said, which is exactly why you will see his campaign continue to go on offense on immigration of course, spending a lot of money making sure voters understand where he is when it comes to protecting a woman's right to choose. it is the very reason we are in this mess when roe v. wade was

overturned. >> he is taking credit for overtraining and he plans to make a -- remarks about abortion next week. biden is using the rope help -- immigration bill that would publicans killed as a talking point. is their potential to win over voters that considered immigration or repetitive or someone issue? >> let me start with immigration. i want to underscore the point that adrian made. president biden is on the offense and not just on defense. he is highlighting the failure of compromise that republicans were at the table and at the 11th hour they pulled back. that is one piece. and then the boring infrastructure that could be done throughout the next couple of months in terms of getting more judges in there. getting

the processing times lower. those of the visuals that we see of the chaos of the border. we do not have the resources that we need, but there are things that the administrator can do to support the infrastructure. in terms of abortion, it is reminding folks that even though republicans may want to go moderate on the issue of abortion, playing where they have had that experience. everybody runs to the extremes. the points were made a couple months ago. >> we are talking about biden and trump. there is a third-party candidate. robert f kennedy jr. releasing a statement in which he appeared to downplay the events of january 6th. it reads in part, " i am listening to people of diverse viewpoints on it in order to make sense of the event and what followed. i want to hear every side.

" victoria, does he think having a neutral stance on mx insurrection of the united states capital is going to help him win over voters? and who would they be? >> we saw this in the republican primary. the cast was trying to win over trump paste -- based voters and was unsuccessful. robert f. kennedy jr., if i read it correctly, he is trying to do the same. it will fail. put something novel and different out there. do not try to do the same thing we witnessed that failed a couple of weeks ago. >> it is essential that we be clear on what it was. january 6th was a moment in history where the peaceful transfer of power was attempted to be disrupted. statements like these are part of the reasons that republican pollsters are predicting kennedy will likely take more votes from trump then biden.

i tend to agree, do you? >> i do. we are roughly 7 months away from the election. we will see what stage he is on the ballot. when you look at his anti- vaccination stands and he is well known internationally for that. you see him making a bizarre play and tried to gain support among the insurrectionist crowd of the maga wing of the republican party. i do not understand what he is doing. i will not sit here and try to understand robert f. kennedy jr. and his thinking at all. you combine those two things. among a sea of other things. and the democratic national committee with liz smith, they are making a major plate to make sure voters understand what they stand for. they will put a lot of money behind the effort of robert f. kennedy jr. i think he will

take more votes from trump then president biden. >> i remember when he was running as a democrat and i interviewed him in iowa and i asked if you would input a national ban on abortion did he later said he did not hear my question. and at another point he said the question are great. he said he would support a ban on abortion around the time of viability. he toyed with it at 15 or 21 weeks. then he left and went independent. all of that is swirling in the pot. it is something that we need to be watching. adrian and victoria, thank you for spending part of your saturday here with me. >> that will do it for me this hour. and allie vitelli in for alex witt. witt. the stormy daniels story is what they are focusing on. the jury will not see one certain movie, but is not that movie we are talking about. what you did not know about truth social but maybe were afraid to ask.

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