between president biden and netanyahu. we will also discuss the ongoing crisis inside gaza. i will be joined by david miliband, and tzipi livne. that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts right now and i will be joining her. millions rattled after a 4.8 earthquake shook the northeast. >> that's the largest quake to hit the state of new jersey in some 250 years. >> special counsel jack smith and judge cannon trading thinly veiled threats as they square off in the trump classified documents case. >> if the judge were to dismiss down the road, the case would be over and trump would be acquitted. >> smith's next step could be to seek for the removal of judge cannon herself.

>> no labels was looking for a hero, and a hero never emerged. >> well, that was the biggest waste of $80 million to ruin a brand i've ever seen. >> let me say it's not for lack of trying, that's for sure. >> it was not based in reality. just like rfk's campaign is not based in reality. >> the biden world is basically trying to nuke rfk out of the case. >> 300,000 net new jobs added in march. that is a great number. >> truth social. you've seen the stock on the move. >> i mean, it's ridiculous. the company has no revenue. >> billionaire media executive barry diller slamming trump media and investors comparing it to stock with no value. >> why are you even talking about this? it's a scam just like everything he's ever been involved in is some sort of con. good evening once again, i'm stephanie rule, and we're now 214 days away from the election.

and this week there was more back and forth in trump's many legal cases. denials of motions to delay or even dismiss, expanded gag orders, and jack smith himself making it clear he's had enough with the judge overseeing the classified documents case. we've got a lot to cover, so let's bring in our very special night cap crew. my dearest friend, true partner ali velshi, amanda litman, cofounder and executive director of run for something. comedian roy wood jr., also a former correspondent for the daily show, and ali vitale. welcome to you all, ali start with you. trump's delay train seems to be coming possibly to an end. the the hush money case is starting in less than two weeks. do you think there is any chance we actually see a verdict before election day? >> oh, i mean in this case, maybe, but i also think -- >> that's a very technical response.

>> and that's the professional word, most reporters know this. but i think what's so difficult about watching these court case social security you're watching the hush money case go forward, but i actually think that's probably the one with the least bearing of american's ability to vote or not vote on trump, as if their opinions are not baked already. but i think the documents case and the jack smith case, in addition to fulton county where he's on tape saying get me the votes i need to win this, but those are the ones most impactful and those are the ones he's kicking the can down the road on. the stormy daniels stuff, that's in people's brain from five years ago. it's not changing anything. and if you talk to anyone, democrat or republican, they agree it's the weakest case in terms of impact. so that might be the one we see, but the ones voters should see is the other one. >> except where people say it's the case about his wife and adultery, it's not. it's about paying someone off to hide information leading into an election. here's my question, though, roy. are too many people expecting that if and when there is a

verdict, trump will automatically be found guilty? because let's be clear, he might not be. >> yeah, and if he's not found guilty, then he's going to use that as fuel to go see i'm not guilty on this one, they're all, and what's his favorite word? witch hunt. i'm just happy with all this trump stuff they're finally spreading the cases out now. like beyonce albums. you get act one, you get act two. because before it was a bit of a log jam coming too fast. back in the manafort days. remember that? >> i do. >> am i listening to different beyonce because they're fun, usually! >> okay, i wanted to talk to ali velshi all week long. this guy gets break after break, whether it's the judge down in florida, whether it's he found a guy to give him the $175 million bond, or now truth social being a publicly traded company that could end up making him hundreds of millions if not billions of

dollars. then next week he's got a big golf tournament, also stands to make a lot of money. but truth social, what was your take? >> i mean, this thing loses value every day. it could make him hundreds of millions of dollars -- >> but even losing it's still making him on paper a ton. >> on paper. but it's half of what it was when it debuted. one of the important points about truth social is that it's not exactly a meme stock, but it has the makings of it. it's noninstitutional investors, not banks and insurance companies. it's a bunch of trump fans. >> the company doesn't do anything. >> and it doesn't do anything and loses more money than we thought it lost. $58 million or something in the first year. the interesting thing you pointed out to me the other day is that it's partnered with another firm, largest shareholder in that firm is also the largest shareholder in tiktok. richest man in pennsylvania. and it's a little weird. he wasn't that into trump in

the first place, he's not supported him historically. now all of the sudden, not all of the sudden, the deal was in the works for a lifetime, but jeff has a conversation with donald trump. they both acknowledge they met, but they won't acknowledge what they talked about, and donald trump's opinion of tiktok, banning it in the united states, changed. >> and that's just one potential investor. there could be all sorts of massive people buying up this stock, potentially incurring favor with the next president of the united states. >> that's right. no one buys this stock because it looks like a good investment. people ask us as financial reporters what should i do with my 401(k), and i say this is not my jam, i can't advise you on that. no one is advising anyone to buy truth social stock, or whatever it's called. trump media stock. that's a weird company that doesn't mean anything. for many years amazon did not make a profit, but you knew something was happening. it was a bet on the idea that jeff bezos was very smart, smarter than most people, and would find a way to make money. >> ahead of the game.

>> right, and no one is saying that about donald trump. >> you can't say you're ahead of the game when you're selling bibles and gold sneakers. that's not a person with good ideas. >> okay, but the craziest thing is there's a market for it. >> yes. >> so is not donald trump the luckiest guy in the world that there's a market for the bibles and the shoes or the fact he has a publicly traded company that does nothing, that loses tens of millions of dollars, and the whole company is just him crazy posting? >> and the investors in the media company are, i just saw today, mostly republican donors. someone with a questionable relationship to the russian oligarchs. not a surprising list of people. i do think it's a little, i don't know, maybe self-sabotaging on trump's part that he's taking money from people that could ultimately fund his campaign and instead directing them to meme stocks. >> or it's the ultimate way they're giving money to his campaign, right? >> yeah, that's telling. >> he hasn't given anything.

>> they can write off their losses. you can't write off a campaign contribution. >> you're also able to max out on the political side and you have another avenue for funding this stuff. i mean, again -- >> and you can do it without anyone knowing your name. >> exactly. and i think the influence piece you've pointed to is so important. the thing congress loves to talk about is who was hunter biden doing business with. and the thing democrats often come back with is okay cool, do oversight of hunter biden's business. also do oversight of jared kushner and the investments he's gotten from the saudis and the deals they were doing potentially as he was leaving the white house and potentially involved in foreign diplomacy. all this stuff is involved with each other, and it's worth looking to. >> jared kushner also not a guy ahead of his game. >> correct. >> no. >> if you're the saudi wealth fund with $2 billion to invest, you have a lot of choices. you can find the best investors anywhere in the world, and jared kushner is not in the top 500,000 of the

world's best investors. >> let's talk about president biden, roy, because today another example should be a great day for him. we got a bang up jobs report that yet again shows what an extraordinary economic recovery we've had. clearly the economy is strong. but from a political standpoint, it's still a challenging political story because we have an overhang of inflation and life's expensive for people. so how does the president kind of navigate this and get that positive message out. like clockwork. like clockwork. mr. president! i'm looking for advice from roy for you! >> stephanie don't you talk about me right now on tv. >> why does this always happen with us? >> always! >> i think the president, i think the inflation and job news is indicative of what has been happening in the entirety of the biden administration which is good news that's able to be spun into something that means nothing. the truth is that they've done a lot of monumental policies and monumental things, and i think it's more about how you

get people to understand why this is good. i think that there's a degree. what trump has that i think biden and them did not have in 2020 was the ability to simplify things. politics is not simple, but because trump is so good bad -- >> and willing to not tell the truth. >> correct. and the truth is wordy. >> and the truth is not dow hits a record. the truth is complicated. >> and i think that's what the administration continues to struggle with. i do not know how they do that and, then on top of that, you're still fighting the argument about age which i've never understood because the other dude is only four years younger, two years younger than you? >> but this is the question right? how do they show it not tell it on infrastructure. the way they've kept insulin prices at 35 bucks. that matters to people.

>> but here's the wordiness problem. the president can't control inflation, but look at what he has done. he's trying to crack down on mortgage closing costs, tackle excess fees on student loan borrowers and reining in the rental market. that doesn't fit on a bumper sticker. so how does the president get this into the american psyche because people are going life is so expensive. and president trump hasn't offered any economic solutions. in fact, him saying i'll slap tariffs, that's only going to worsen inflation. >> but it's actually that on every topic, right? whatever you think joe biden didn't do well enough on, i'm not sure, with the exception of lowering your taxes, which is a big one, and deregulation, which is a very big one too. corporations and ceos. that anything would have been done better by donald trump. he just, he wasn't better at any of that stuff. he meant it. remember that time we were covering infrastructure week,

every time it happened, and he derailed it all within three hours of launching it because he'd tweet that somebody is fired or he's changing some law? that's the thing. donald trump is binary, but the price of the egg is working against joe biden. inflation is coming under control, but prices aren't going backwards because prices don't go backyards, and if prices were going backwards, that would be bad for the economy, but you're paying more for an egg. >> and the cost of child care is going up. that's a big budget line, and those aren't things the president can do anything about. especially not housing. >> but he's trying. >> yeah, he's trying, and it's a really hard argument to make because you're trying to tell people the thing they feel is real for their lived experience, but they're wrong, the economy is good, the economy is great. if someone told me that i'd say it must be good for someone else, but not me.

>> you said two things there. the thing that you feel and the thing that is your lived experience are diverging. >> as we're saying this right now on twitter they'll be going nuts saying it's the media's fault. you're talking down the economy. you're convincing the american people that the economy sucks, you're to blame. but it's actually the lived experience. >> yeah, i really think that it's hard to tell someone who's struggling that everything is okay. and i don't know how you're able to flip that. and what biden can't afford to do, at least with the campaign, is seemingly not being interesting is going yeah, you're right. it is bad. >> they're doing it now, they are doing it now. >> okay. >> but talking about it doesn't necessarily make people feel better. life's expensive. somebody who is out of the game, i have to ask you, no labels. $80 million later, all the big

ideas, very few tv appearances, nancy jacobson, i'm looking at you. and they're out. what's your take? >> i use my uh official term earlier, but that was the word i think i heard from so many operatives who had been texting me nonstop the last few months saying no labels is doing this, and now they finally get to exhale. i think the people who were always taking no labels more seriously were the biden folks. they had staffed up around this. i think they were prepared to launch a full scale attack to try and keep these folk, whoever they recruited, out of the game. i think they're happy they don't have to do that anymore. but i think just the fact that, you know, there was this bark and forth that there should be another candidate in the first place when the outreach wasn't even really existing. i remember talking to the nikki haley folks who are like yeah, no one ever called nikki haley even though they were trying to get to her over the media. i think it lands them in the right place of okay, now voters now they have a binary.

i think rfk is more of a trump problem rather than a biden problem. >> are you saying they're raising $70 million and not doing anything meaningful with it? i'm shocked, shocked to hear! >> a lot of money. but yeah, let's talk about rfk for a minute though, roy. ali saying -- >> just a minute. >> just a minute. ali saying he'll pull from trump. what's your take because there are people out there who might not realize who he is, what he's saying, or what he represents. but maybe they're exhausted by politics and think here's a new phase. >> i think there will be some liberal voters who choose rfk on just the, call it political voting roulette if you will for lack of a better option. it's either rfk or literally anybody else. i don't think that it's going to be a bigger issue for biden than trump. i think it's definitely a trump problem. >> because the stuff he talks about -- >> the stuff he talks about is

already -- >> you have to be on the other side to be accepting the vaccine stuff, the the conspiracy theory stuff, the calling january 6th people patriots, you know -- >> can you imagine your mother campaigning against you? and his argument is like, listen, not every family gets along about everything. but i'm like -- >> with ted cruz it was just his college roommates and everyone that worked with him. >> but your cousins, your family? it's another level. all right, no one is going anywhere. when we come back, we're talking about cowboy carter. beyonce's latest album. and march madness, the games, the players, and what everyone is talking about. and the rise of cancel culture in comedy. what happens when it goes too far when our night cap and the 11th hour continue, stick around. (♪♪)

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all right, we talked about what we needed to talk about. now let's talk about what we want to talk about, and let's start with beyonce's album cowboy carter. now officially out for one week. roy, this was supposed to be her country music debut, but what we got was so much more. >> yeah, i think what we got,

in addition to the music, was a history lesson about the roots of blackness in country music at a time where all we love to do is reject the truth about the origins of so many things in this country. i think that's the conversation i've been happy to see happening around the album is the fact that oh, not only am i going to come into this genre and do something new and inventive, but i'm also going to put on my back black people already in the genre long before i got here, and dolly come on over too, let's do a remix. i think that made it so enjoyable when she goes on tour. we need to buy stocks in cowboy hats. that's the stock to buy good don't say it too loudly, trump will come out with cowboy hats. >> these are truth hats. >> but beyonce won't get 1619 for doing it.

the story of the black contribution to country music, ken burns did a lot on this, his first episode in his documentary was called the rub and was about the black and white origins of country music that involved into a country that didn't want to share origins. so they decided that country music was the white thing and r and b was the black thing. but in fact so many of their roots were in the same place and same type of music and same stories about love and loss. interesting. t was the conversation has died down the last couple of years and it's coming back. >> do you think this is a political album? >> no -- >> it's an everything album. >> the more important thing is if as we get used to this we will understand that when black people have country music hits, it's not a stretch. it's not going into someone else's world, it's going back into your own. >> so what's your take, amanda, about the criticism.

there's not a lot about it, but it's loud. it's from the far right. >> some is targeted at a black woman who's amazing at what she does because she's a black woman amazing at what she does. some of it is well thought out, like there are some songs that are better than others. but they're all interesting. like, there's so much there. she essentially gives a history lesson. i heard it described as the great american novel but in music form. it's beautiful. now, some of the critiques are super racist and problematic. but i think there's some more interesting conversation happening around the music because she gives us so much to dive in on. >> but how about the fact that some of her biggest supporter on the album are the collaborators, the original artists. john mccartney, dolly parton. dolly said several years ago

that i hope beyonce covers jolene. >> the fact miley cyrus said i can't wait to see beyonce, and now she's a part of the project. i think people considered deep roots in country, those people being able to say yes, this is actually a beautiful take and where this country music genre needs to go further. i think it's getting rid of the novelty factor. there are so many brilliant black musicians who have been in the space and are now talking about the beyonce bump of their streams going up, them being recognized as artists in their own caliber for being featured in this way. i think for some who say that beyonce might have, i know there are some critics saying it's too commercial, it's not enough country. it's beyonce. this woman is main stream and huge. that's always how she's gonna do it. but if other people can grow with that, brilliant. >> and if her album is nominated for any number of awards, all those people are nominated too. >> it's going to be hell at the cmas are beyonce wins awards.

because you'll have people who are purists who will act like there aren't other commercialized country music artists. >> it's a broad genre. >> as a swiftie, i will tell you, what was taylor doing? >> you're using beyonce crossing genres to try and uplift your narrative that this is an attack on whiteness, and it's not. to act like anyone of one specific race can do one specific genre, that's wrong. >> the only person getting attacked is jolene, and she's been getting attacked for the last 50 years. >> that woman is hiding under a table. >> it's jolene's fault, and she deserved to get stomped on acoustically. all right, we're talking march madnessment is this a turning point for women in sports? because traditionally when women don't get paid or have the resources it's well, they can't sell out arenas, they don't have the audience, but

boom, they do. what do you think of this moment? >> just the fact that people like shaq and others are coming out saying angel reese and caitlin clark, these are the most talented people. >> shaq saying he doesn't even know the names of the men playing. >> you know what? same. and i love that. i love that we're talking about it as just basketball and not women's basketball anymore. these are just amazing athletes, and i'm excited for the fact that there are so many young kids, not just girls, but also boys, who are clamoring for a caitlin clark jersey or clamoring to be like angel reese. that was the dream. i had mia hamm and brandi chastain, that was it. now they have all these amazing women. i love this, this is amazing. i'm thrilled. and i hate basketball. >> how does the wnba keep this mojo going, right? how do they take this

excitement and bring it, bring this excitement to arenas for professionals? >> that's easy. when caitlin clark goes presumably number one, i think the indiana fever have the first pick, you start putting those games on tv. you start making sure you have women that are the face of the league and put faces to the teams. they've already started that process, but it just continues because now caitlin gives you the hot rookie to follow into the pros. i think the issue with the men's game is so many players are one and done. nil has you playing hopscotch school to school, so you don't have a relationship year to year. the fact that this is a revenge game. there's no men's game where you can see last year he did this against him, and this year it's time. he's drafted, he's gone. >> that's right. that's the interesting point. is that a good thing or bad thing? it's good for the momentum we have right now, but ultimately isn't that a weird answer that this works because women don't, you know, don't leave

and get drafted? >> they're not going one and one. we've seen their story the last four years. do you think that's what's so special about this group of women? we know their stories and love and hate them. >> angel reese is now entering the wnba draft, she announced it with a beautiful photo shoot in vogue. and you're going to see her and caitlin clark entering the wnba at a moment they can really capitalize on the story. last year the liberty games were so fun. we'll see more of that next year. i think women's sports is going to break a billion dollars in revenue for the first time. it's just if beginning. >> women's soccer. >> and the olympics, simone biles coming back. it will be a good summer. i want to talk about a different kind of storm, i guess you could say. late this morning there was a 4.8 magnitude earthquake that struck the northwest. -- northeast. it was felt from philadelphia to boston. it got a lot of reactions, including this one from the

empire state building which wrote i am fine. we have yet to hear from the statue of liberty. we hope and pray she is well. it's one of the reasons i'm happy, roy, you're a survivor. you were one of the first to post on social media today. i'd like to know around the table where were you when the great quake of 2024 hit new york? >> i was on the toilet. >> so you didn't know that it hit. >> oh, i knew, i knew. it's a very sensitive toilet. but i lived in la for eight years. >> so you wonder what everyone is on about. >> yeah, everyone in los angeles is laughing at us. and new yorkers have to understand you can't just make everything oh my god because you lose the new york grit. the whole point is we can survive anything! so shake up the 4.8. why are you on twitter crying? >> did you shake it off? >> i didn't even feel it to shake it off. i think i'm too low to the

ground. you don't feel anything. i'm sitting in the morning joe offices, and i knew it happened because there's tvs everywhere. >> we're too short to know it hit. >> isn't that physics? >> i was shaving, and i saw the mirror shaking -- >> your head? >> it's always a full deal. and my first thought, because a man of a certain age, i was doing laundry and thought the towels. >> shaving and doing laundry at the same time? >> yeah, you can do them both. and you know when you put the towels in, but i have a front loading machine. >> this is really getting -- >> i did everything except think it was an earthquake. then i thought is there a subway line running under my house? trucks, subway, laundry is what i thought. it didn't feel like an earthquake. >> walking down street, didn't feel a thing. did immediately log on to twitter to see what eric adams would respond with.

>> which was wild. >> i haven't seen a response. >> all the proposed responses were fantastic. >> going to send the cops to the core of the earth. >> the ghost of gracey mansion trying to haunt us. >> well the good news is everyone has survived and will stay here to tell us their mvps of the week. but before that, punished, silenced, disappeared. the rise of cancel culture and what happens when it goes too far. judy gold ways in when the 11th hour night cap continues.

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>> how would i define cancel culture? >> um. >> sorry, i need a second. >> when people talk about canceling cancel culture, i don't hear a clear understood or shared meaning. >> well, there's 20 different definitions. what is cancel culture? we all hear about it all the time um, but as you just heard from some theoretical experts, when it really comes down to it, it's hard to define.

but do not worry, msnbc is exploring the phenomenon in in a new documentary. judy gold is joining me now. she's featured in cancels, and she's a comedian, actor, and author of yes, i can say that. when they come for the comedians, we're all in trouble. judy, i'm so glad you got involved in this project because we've talked about this many times. how do you define cancel culture? >> well, i believe in free speech. in all speech, i think you should be able to say, i mean, we live in the united states of america. we should be able to say whatever we want. and you'll have to suffer the consequences of what you say. and that's just the way it is. because you cannot, i mean, who decides what speech is appropriate? >> but what does that mean? you have to suffer the consequences of what you say because cancel culture has meant we don't like what you

said or did, you're banished forever. people don't get just called out, they get removed. >> right, which is beyond ridiculous. if we took it just in comedy, you know, think about i. when someone is on trial for murder, their sentence is determined by their intent. what were they thinking, did they really want to commit this murder? when you tell a joke, you have an intent. you have this is what i'm trying to say. but someone could take it the wrong day and then decide you should never be able to tell that joke again. we have, in this country we have gotten rid of nuance, we've gotten rid of context, especially on social media, and intent. and it's really, really dangerous. >> how complicated is it when you put it through the prism of comedy? because some people say man, people are too sensitive, and the nature of comedy is to push boundaries and is to make

people feel uncomfortable. and all the time we talk about shows, movies, programs we've loved over the years. and things as basic and as pg as programs like the office. and people say oh, couldn't make that today. but you couldn't. >> you couldn't. couldn't make all in the family, couldn't make maude. >> some of the most iconic american shows. >> that changed, that changed the conversation. the fact that we're not having the conversations. there's less discourse. it's, it's not facilitating any kind of evolution. i mean, you look at, all right, i know you're going to get mad, but look at the republicans, okay? >> i love doing that. >> they are, um, they are against cancel culture. that's all they talk about.

and yet they're banning books. they're banning books. how hypocritical is that? you're telling people what they can talk about in their classrooms. a teacher can't say my husband or wife if they're gay? what is this? that is, it's mind boggling. >> but at the same time, celebrities or ceos or people who have gotten canceled, the far right has now kind of made them heroes and celebrities. >> right. but have they really gotten canceled? that's the thing. who's really gotten canceled. >> okay is there anyone that has been canceled that you think it wasn't fair? >> no, there's people i would like to cancel. no. i don't think -- >> but right there, isn't that the issue? right that there's people we don't like and we're like cancel them! >> right, but i don't believe that. i believe let them continue on

and they'll get, they'll suffer the consequences -- >> suffer the consequences so if they're not funny, the audience won't show up? >> well, these people all have fans. there's different styles of comedy. you know, you have to realize stand up comedy, this is the interesting thing. first of all, george carlin said i'd like to find out where the line is, cross it deliberately, and then make the audience glad that i did. but most comedians do not know where the line is until they are in front of the audience trying out their material. it is the only art form where the audience is part, a significant part of the creative process. so we're trying to find the line, we're taking a risk, we're talking about something, but the audience is saying no, but we don't know that until we get in front of the audience. >> george carlin is the perfect example. his material from 20, 25 years

ago that seemed crazy at the time has played out word for word. >> right. and it's so relevant today. he is, go on social media. and that's the other problem: we have the social media where people have a soap box that don't deserve a soap box. things are taken out of context. and it was like, you know, your uncle who said the crazy stuff and you'd say go on the basement. now they go on the basement, go online and find 10,000 people that agree with them. >> but do you feel like you're in a category and can't say x or y, and that's limiting the discourse we should have? >> i, i am at an age where i don't care anymore. >> hold on, hold on was there ever an age you did? >> that's true. >> i've been a fan for a long time. was there ever an age you cared? >> i just want to tell the truth. i think comedians are truth tellers and brutally honest. and if you're gonna talk about

a subversive topic, then make a great joke! make sure the joke is funny! don't be lazy, you know? but yes, i, i am fearless. but there are comedians coming up. and there are clubs saying listen, if you talk about this, you can't work in our club. that's ridiculous! >> judy, you are fearless and fabulous. i'm so glad you're here. great to see you. when we come back, our night cap returns with our mvps of the week. don't miss it when the 11th hour and the night cap continues.

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our night cap is here, and it's time for my favorite part of the program. their mvp of the week. the person doesn't have to be the best week, but they certainly needed a big one. who are you picking? >> i'm picking the princess of genovia herself anne hathaway. >> i knew who that was, did any of you? thank you! >> julie andrews, anne hathaway. >> a classic. >> you need to watch it in prep for your show tomorrow. >> 100%. >> i'll be ready. anne hathaway. i feel like she's in the era

of being herself, knowing herself. she does this amazing cover. >> vogue. >> vogue, and looks almost like a villain and dance at parties and have fun. i'm in my anne hathaway. >> she's not just on the cover of vogue because she's a brilliant actress, but she's an all around bad ass. >> she can self-advocate and not be villainized. >> a bad and a bad person are not the same thing. >> my mvp of the week is angel reese from louisiana state university. they had a good week, not the best because they lost, but she's going to the draft. but i think the online harassment of angel and her teammate coming out and defending her, and helpings to

start a conversation about the specificity of hating on an athlete because they lost or won, okay, fine. but when you start getting into higher levels of harassment and i won't even get into the details. the fact she was able to handle that with poise and set an example for so many other young women, i think that level of character is going to carry right over to the next level, and the fact it also showed us there's so many people willing to speak out and defend that young woman. >> do you think people should be apologetic or ashamed? do you think those two women caused an industry at large, journalists, to say how have we covered this young woman? >> there's a different between you lost and you're sad because you lost versus i'm sad because i know you're going to harass me and it's frustrating and driving me up the wall and starting to break me. that part of the game cannot be allowed. >> for a 21-year-old woman.

>> i think for any women, but especially for one that's just young and having fun! >> the pressure of the public eye. amanda? >> so the organization i run for something has a bunch of candidates up in elections this week. i work with a young woman, 27-year-old kelly who was a brain cancer survivor and community activist running for lacrosse county board in wisconsin. she ran and beat in a landslide the former county republican chair, one of the fake trump electors, an election denier who refused to admit biden won the election until a lawsuit forced him too. she was able to keep him out of power. little win, big win for democracy. >> i love that. the bar is high. >> i'm going to draft off amanda. i place called enid, oklahoma. >> okay, educate us. >> my mvp is connie vickers. the enid social justice committee found out a guy on

their city council there since 2013 had been part of the charlottesville rally. >> he was a participant? >> a participant. and so enid and folks started a petition to get rid of this guy. they had a recall, an election this week. it was an tuesday night. and they won. and this guy named judge blevins is now no longer a member of the city council. small matter because no one knew who he was in the first place, but this is how you change things. this group of people, connie and that group of people changed things in their city and made people realize we don't want to be associated with that stuff. if the stuff you do happens in little places across america, that's how to save democracy. >> that's extraordinary. all right, my mvp is someone i've always looked up to. i'm guessing everyone at this table does. especially this week after

absolute tragedy. it is jose andres. his world central kitchen lost seven aid workers in gaza after an israeli air strike. one of them was damian sobol. he worked in the same kitchen i did when i volunteered a few years ago. it's so important to understand the kind of work that this man damian and many others continue to do. they're running to some of the most dangerous places in the world to provide aid, food, and relief to people in the most desperate and tragic situations. the people who lost their lives are simply the best of humanity. so to damian, those with him, jose andres and the entire world central kitchen family, my deepest condolences.

with force likely to we have to get better, and i didn't mean to end like that. roy, can you tell us a joke? the problems you must face on the internet. >> i receive all the hate. >> and a lot of love. >> i get a lot of your hair looks amazing. >> thank you all so, so much, and thank you all for watching. on that note i wish you a safe and great night. you can watch the night cap fridays and most saturdays 11:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc, and from all our colleagues, thanks for staying up late. i'll see you monday.

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