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"the beat with ari melber" starts right now. >> welcome to "the beat." i'm ari melber. we begin tonight with a tradition that actually continues to endure in washington. the formality of the president walkout. he was then president obama walking out to the lectern. following, president reagan, the cheers, announcing that's what you do as you're president. it's a big deal whenever you enter the room. here is that same white house move with the current president joe biden. >> please welcome the president of the united states -- >> there it is. please welcome, and you get the walkout. today for one fleeting moment it might have seemed like 2020 went differently because there was a pretty different seemingly democratic president. >> please welcome, senator bernie sanders.

[ applause ] >> thank you. >> bernie sanders was there for a major white house event, and he is, of course, still senator here on earth one, as nicolle wallace might say. it is sanders' political support on the left and credibility specific on health care which makes him such a key teammate for president and candidate biden right now. the two joining forces at this white house health care event today where the president strongly touted his former rival on the very issue of health care. sanders began his career as a socialist progressive, pushing for european-style universal health care. he later galvanized democratic voters in the 2016 and 2020 races. in those primaries you may recall by demanding stronger solutions to what he called the

cruel capitalism and corporatist policies that had at times taken over the d.c. democratic party party elites. senator sanders operates as something like this party's popular conscience on domestic issues, especially health care and corporate regulation. you can take a look at the primary electorate that he dominated when he ran in that two-person race in 2016. this is not polling. this is not opinion. this is 43% of all participating democratic voters in the 2016 primaries backing him. 2020, of course, was shorter. he still had in a wider field, not a two-person field, over a quarter of the voting public of that party. he out lasted other rivals, pushed the same agenda. when he did that last debate, a socially distanced debate against then candidate biden. this was a primary that swiftly narrowed when biden staged a

comeback and covid began. show you the elbow bump. those were the days, as covid arrived. let's take a look. >> you want to guarantee quality health care to all, not make a hundred billion in profit for the health care industry, you know what you need? you need to take on wall street. you need to take on the drug companies. >> bernie still hasn't told us how he's going to pay for it. >> not quite true. have you been on the floor of the senate -- you were in the senate for a few years. >> yep. >> time and time again talking about the necessity with pride about cutting social security, cutting medicare, cutting veterans' programs. >> no. >> you never said that? >> no. >> sanders credibly represents a large part of this party which biden knows. you heard sanders taking on the drug companies. that's exactly what they were doing today, working together on one of the issues where we know they now clearly agree. the larger context is joe biden

needs to improve his standing with younger voters. teaming up with the most popular progressive elected in the country makes sense. the biden campaign is trying to rally two groups they need to turn out this fall, the very liberal and the young. it's hard to overstate how strong sanders as done among young voters who identify with his anti-establishment and anti-capitalism platform. when he lost to clinton in 2016, he didn't only win more young voters than her, he did more than what the biden coalition knows about, trying to recreate the winning years. bernie sanders won more than clinton and trump combined that year among young voters. that's just an astounding figure for politics. regardless of a candidate's age or style, bernie sanders' ideas and deeply authentic approach

built enthusiasm with a new generation following old politics. he didn't bludgeon clinton over her emails. he was so influential that there were republicans that echoed his type of attack on the system. along the way he became something of a pop cultural figure with the kind of appeal that the biden campaign is trying to deploy right now. it was actually broader than politics. there even was a memorable "snl" impression. >> bernie sanders is the unlikeliest of candidates igniting a political revolution. >> the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails. >> thank you. me, too, me, too. >> what i do like about bernie is when he loses, because the system is rigged against him totally -- >> i intend to do everything i can to make certain she will be the next president of the united states. >> here is the moment. do they keep the social

isolation thing? there we go. >> we've got make trump a one-term president, and we need you in the white house. i will do all that i can to see that that happens, joe. >> if you don't mind, i'm going to dial it right up to a ten. >> go right ahead. >> we're doomed! we need a revolution. millions of people on the streets. and we've got to do something, and we've got to do it now! >> biden needs some of that revolution energy, even if today's event was more of a policy huddle about those companies i mentioned and prices and price regulation and all those details than it was about storming the streets, as larry david, as bernie, said in the satire. this is broader than sanders. we've got former presidents who biden just rallied both to raise a ton of money as trump diverts campaign money to his own legal bills, and also these images that continue to ricochet around

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welcome to both of you. david, there are those who underestimated bernie sanders' appeal and have been proven wrong over and over. i showed the numbers. over 40% of the voting primary electorate the first time and a quarter of it the second time in a wide race. what do you see today? is it helpful for the biden campaign? what does this reunion mean? >> well, ari, first of all, any time you can lift up the issue of health care and paint obviously the positive accomplishments and what's happening in the biden administration and contrast that with trump, that's positive. that's going to be a big part of the campaign, advertising and all the messaging going forward. bernie sanders is popular with young voters, working class voters. i think he's not just popular. i think he's trusted. i would expect to see him being deployed in hopefully very smart

ways in battleground states to reach the cohorts where he's one of those influential figures. every presidential race, tight senate race comes down to a mixture of swing voters, base, turnout. i think for joe biden that ladder is as important if not more important than swing voters, as important as they are. i think you have to pay particular care and attention to that to make sure that you don't end up doing what you need to do as suburban swing voters but losing this election because you have not done what you need to do with young voters in particular. >> errin, would you like to see some more larry david playing bernie sanders? are you open to that? >> listen, if the return of bernie sanders means more larry david and, more importantly, more cardi b, i'm for it. your impression could use a little work. >> a lot of work. i'm shout-out to cardi b, the

new york artist who also is a huge presidential historian buff. i'd love to get here and bench loss in here. she was also big into the person. here is more larry. take a look. >> i'll have a beer, a new brand that people are flocking to, something refreshing and revolutionary, something that draws huge crowds. >> i'll have whatever beer no one likes but gets the job done. >> brings the memories back, errin. the crowds are part of what biden needs. i mentioned the ideas that bernie sanders has advocated for a long time, the authenticity, it obviously connected with some of the voting groups david mentioned more than other democrats. i wonder how you see that playing out in this pitch battle. >> we're talking about young voters. think about the issue that they were teaming up together for today, as this kind of elderly

avengers moment, if you will, at the white house. they're talking about health care. this is an issue that kind of was throwback for them, two people who worked together on this issue in the senate, it's an issue that bernie sanders does have a lot of credibility and trust on. this is also an issue that's going to resonate with older voters. the fact they got down the price of insulin and inhalers is something that's going to resonate with voters of color who are disproportionately impacted by diabetes and asthma, for instance. the cost of things and the state of the economy is a top issue for voters. to have bernie sanders out there making that case and showing they've made progress and that they still want to do more, making that as part of their case for re-election, i think in addition to sanders' appeal with young voters is going to help to put together this coalition that i think the biden/harris campaign knows they need to win. >> you want to get into inhaler

regulation, let's go. i'm not afraid to do that on the news. this is an issue that matters to a lot of people's lives but doesn't have all the pop and excitement of other things. but specifically, we saw sanders and biden agree at the event today on going after what they call the corporate malfeasance in this. we'll name names. sanders and other lawmakers single out four manufacturers of inhalers, astra zeneca, tether pharmaceuticals and gsk, including what they say is pretty damning which is the prices are higher in the united states than other places. this speaks to a complex regulatory field, david, but apparently what sanders and biden agree on, you should use the power of the federal government to have fair prices rather than price gouging, something they can't get away with in europe. >> everything in this campaign

has to be painted through a contrast lens. joe biden can talk about with the help of bernie sanders and others, what they've done on things like insulin and taking on the big incumbent corporate interests on behalf the american people. donald trump obviously is going to do the exact opposite. so your health care costs arise. he'll take the side of the big pharmaceutical companies every time. i think that when you think about states like wisconsin, arizona, michigan, all the battleground states, they're going to be decided, at least as it looks right now, by 10, 20, 30, 40,000 votes. you think about in those states there's plenty of people where the cost of inhalers, the old cost of insulin, really important to them every day. so i think that the nice thing about this issue, as on just about every issue starting with abortion, is you've got diametrically opposed next four years if you have a biden

administration or trump administration. you have to pound that every day in every way, i think bernie sanders is a good messenger for a lot of voters out there on an issue like health care generally and some of these pocket bush issues in health care specifically. >> errin. >> yeah. i mean i think that's exactly right. and also just the idea that these are things that have been delivered and also, if you like this and you want more of this -- you've got biden and sanders out here saying we're looking out for you, the consumer. that's a direct contrast to former president trump who is very much at this point looking out for himself, trying to figure out ways to pay his legal bills. he's not necessarily looking to protect consumers so much as he's trying to sell you a bible for $60 to worry about his own

personal economic needs. i think that is a pretty stark contrast with the economy being such a top concern for so many voters. >> david, we're running near the end of the conversation, but you are close with former president obama. does he have plans to sell bibles? if so, will they be reasonably priced or highly overpriced? what light can you shed on that? do you want to make any news tonight? >> all i'll say, ari, i'm not sure there's a person on the planet who has violated more of the ten commandments than donald trump. the fact that he use out there hocking bibles and getting support from the community is one of the northwest bizarre things we've seen in american politics. we've seen a lot of bizarre things. >> haven't put like that. yeah, ten of them. david plouffe and erin hayes, thank you. you may have noticed james carville is back tonight with

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we've got a general election on our hands. both parties have their presumptive no, ma'am niece. in a development few would have imagined as recently as january 2021 when republican politicians condemned the violent attacks by maga fans who literally sent, as you see there, politicians scurrying for safety, now one candidate is campaigning in favor of that crime spree. donald trump promising to help convicted january 6th rioters, falsely calling them hostages when they go through the justice system. as the ap reports, trump is making the january 6th attack a cornerstone of his campaign, lying about it, arguing it's a

good thing and, quote, positioning the violent siege as a corner stone of his campaign. theap reports trump has used rallies to salute while recording playing prisoners in jail for the january 6th attack singing the anthem. trump floats the idea of pardoning them. these are extreme lawless positions, taken against the u.s. government. all of this echoing the divisions from the civil war to jim crow when some people, maybe not all americans, but some americans and their leaders openly plot against the federal government. now, there are some arch conservative republicans who argue that trump's jan 6th obsession is bad for the country and also bad politics for republicans. take president bush's white house veteran karl rove. he has run many republican

campaigns, many winning ones, by the way. he currently works as a fox news analyst which is one of those deals that keeps him off other channels. although i recently interviewed him and some other republicans at the rancho mirage writers festival. i talked to mr. rove and former trump chief of staff reince priebus and another trump white house veteran known for her january 6th testimony, cassidy hutchinson. for karl rove, i asked him about the january 6th enduring and shifting role in this campaign. he argues democrats should go even harder at trump's lawless stance and the vow to pardon what rove -- you're about to see this, what mr. rove calls maga thugs, not hostages. i've got to tell you, we get to talk to a lot of people and try to get sourcing and information from a lot of people, especially those who served in government when we do interviews. this one was pretty striking.

i'm going to share mr. rove's new remarks at some length for you here, airing on "the beat" for the first time. >> if they were smart, they'd take the january 6th and go hard at it, and they would say he wants to pardon these people who attacked our capitol. i worked in that building as a young man. to me the congress of the united states is one of the great examples of the strength of our democracy and a jewel of the constitution. what those people did when they violently attacked the capitol, in order to stop a constitutionally mandated meeting of the congress to accept the results of the electoral college is a stain on our history, and ever reone of those sons of [ bleep ] that n did that, we ought to find them, try them and send them to jail. one of the critical mistakes made in this campaign is that donald trump has now said i'm going to pardon those people because they're hostages. no, they're not.

they're thugs. some of them had automatic weapons at a hotel in virginia hoping to be able to be called up. we had people saying where is nancy pelosi. we had people sitting at desks of the speaker of the house, yelling at the police kill them, kill them all. why trump has done this is beyond me. if he had said, you know what, i trust our jury system, i trust law enforcement, anybody who assaulted the capitol -- he said it once or twice, but now he's appearing in a video with people who assaulted police officers with an intent to take the capitol by force. look, i'm a republican. i don't want to have a democratic president. i want a republican president. we're facing as a country a decision -- everybody gets to make it -- as to what kind of leadership we're going to have. to me it is a mistake on the part of the trump campaign to allow the president's impulses

to identify himself with the people who assaulted the capitol. >> very clear rebuke there. bush veteran karl rove confronting maga's lawless thuggery, sledding the republican claim to any law and order. rove, as he often does, mixing that with his political math. he said it's wrong, and he also said it's going to fail for the republicans in november. we should mention donald trump has attacked karl rove for other comments he's made earlier this year. this matters both on the substance, as i mentioned, but also clearly the politics. trump needs to consolidate his republican base to have any hope of making up his deficit against biden from 2020. if he can't keep prominent fox news conservatives like karl rove on his side over this issue, that may matter. now, i mentioned all the sources we try to hear from when we do our reporting. taking up trump's defense on

that same panel was the man you see here in the pathway of power, in the halls of power, in the actual oval office. in fact, i'll leave this photo up for a moment. both men you see here were with donald trump through january 6th. one now completely ostracized after facing the death threats that donald trump uncorked against him, former vice president pence. the other, reince priebus still very much in the maga camp. mr. priebus also ran the rnc. also on this manual was a republican who joined the liz cheney wing of the january 6th committee, adam kinzinger. i want to play more from the same panel including part of priebus' trump defense. it's a group of people that in one way shows the range of potential republican leadership but also shows how the less maga members are habitually driven out. airs for the first time, here are those highlights. >> joe biden's message is going to be i'm not for trump.

we don't want trump. we can't have the chaos of trump. >> both candidates face the likelihood of losing part of what they had last time around. >> they also look at joe biden and say, but the economy is no good, there's crime everywhere. >> on biden's side, he's got a problem in that he, first of all, is lacking enthusiasm among black, hispanic and young voters. >> donald trump in 2016 was the biggest middle finger that the american people could find, and they found it. i actually think that people are more angry today than they were in 2016. >> for trump, the problem is that last time around he lost 8% of republicans and was seven man votes short in the popular vote. if he is found guilty of something, even if it's the new york business, it's going to have an effect. >> this is the highest stakes poker as it gets. if the president gets acquitted

on one of these items, his chances of winning are going to be even greater. >> the election cannot be won merely among republicans. >> if you think that trump being found guilty by the attorney general's investigation in new york is going to sway the independent voters in wisconsin and pennsylvania and north carolina, good luck, because i don't think it is. most people don't care about any of these issues. i think you want them to. i think you wish they would. >> i'm going to let him finish and then you can go. >> this is not the 1990's electorate. this is 2024 where division is profit and unity is a loser. >> if i had done what he did, we'd be having this in the visitor's room of fort leavenworth. >> quote, division is profit and unity is a loser. well, you're getting a pretty

direct view there from people who have been at the very top and want to go back in the top of the white house with drum. priebus is insisting most voters are not following these democracy issues the way informed or some would put it, elite citizens may. those primaries do show trump has not fixed the cracks in his base from the haley showing that we saw in the early states, one in five republicans voting against trump when he has the only position in the ballot late. those are important states like florida. ohio republicans saying straight up, they don't plan to back him in november. these are the stakes, and there are people who want to lie to you and make it all disappear or become a kind of confusing soup. so when you hear someone like karl rove who if you've been watching the news for a minute, you might remember was one of the architects of the right wing texas republican revolution, if

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we began with president biden bringing bernie sanders to the white house. we turn to what's going on in trump world which involves campaigning but also dealing with a lot of trials and headaches. the doj special counsel jack smith is trying to push back against one of the judges in the other cases, the classified documents case. jack smith goes at judge khan new england's request for jury instructions. this is the kind of thing that gets hashed out at this point before trial. jack smith says judge cannon is relying on a, quote, flawed legal premise. you don't usually tell the presiding judge that kind of thing. that's considered pretty strong. the premise smith is referencing

how trump's team has made arguments about the president records act that smith says misrepresent the actual law, to try to suggest that what trump did -- obviously flouting the law. he didn't even return the documents when the fbi asked for them. that's why they had to forcibly take them from his homes. smith says the interpretation is wrong and no basis in law and fact. he says if adopted, it would actually distort the entire trial. we are looking at the kind of thing according to jack smith could upend the whole case before you get to witnesses and evidence. smith says judge cannon has got to look at the vitally important effort to get a quick ruling and that trump's defense has to deal with this, but ultimately they need to have an opportunity to consider a review, an appeal. meaning jack smith is saying this is so big and she might be so wrong that he would slow down a case, when normally he wants to go fast, because he might

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and now we turn to our first ever cajun edition of fallback. look who is here. james carville, the legendary ragin cajun himself. you may know him or his political wisdom. it's the economy, stupid. he's always had a way with words. >> we got six more days to go. don't forget who the real enemy is in here and don't forget what we're really campaigning against. thank you very much. >> you know what i say, i got egg on my face. >> do you think i look like a human? >> no. >> as we say in the campaign, days in the barn now. >> you see a turtle on a fence post, it didn't get there by itself. if you see a sock on a rooster, somebody put them on. >> such a way with words, he's earned his own "saturday night live" impressions.

>> i think they are garfield and obama's munn dates. i'll be back in louisiana drinking sweet tea on the porch with my friend alligator joe. >> why do you call him alligator joe? >> he's an alligator. >> our friend and colleague msnbc legal correspondent, attorney lisa rubin who is working on her s nfrjtl impression. good to have you both here. >> thank you for having me. >> james, what's on your fallback list? >> raism in idaho. women's basketball, staying in a place across the idaho border and people were going by in pickup trucks yelling racial epithets. every time we think we're working towards a post racial world, these jerks pull you back into the world you actually live in. i was the favorite of megyn

kelly and jesse waters, what we talked about on your show. i would rather spend the next thousand years in a humanities lounge at berkeley than spend one minute with those people in idaho, i can promise you that right now. >> that's a real comparison for you especially. it's sad when you see it -- we talk about politics sodivisive, but sports or culture, a place we could come together, the racist and hait mongers use it to take over. >> those women, they were good. beat them last year to go to the final four. they lost the game. they had to move them out of the hotel. they had to take them to spokane. another interesting thing happened. gonzaga men's basketball team was playing in detroit, and they started -- they were in a bus in some republican jerk said they were migrants coming here.

they were basketball players at a jesuit university. sometimes the racism in this country just slaps you right in the face and says we're here, dude. >> yeah. it's a wake-up call for those in denial about it if they're listening. it's a good one. what's on your list? >> speaking of slapping in the face, the misogyny here in new york this last week, on tiktok there's been videos of women who have been walking down the street when they were literally socked in fair face by someone sometimes slaps me in the face and has been slapping women across the city in the face, literally and metaphorically and sometimes i'm stunned by the sexism we. >> every time you think this is behind us, you find out it's definitely not behind us. but what is good is people

exposed this kind of thing. >> michelle obama said when they go low, we go high. i'll tell you this about fallback, when they go heavy, i go light. okay. this is important. my fallback for this week is very light, but i see it all the time. i see it more often. using a phone in a public place, subway, subway stop, i see it in new york, on a train, to play your volume -- >> oh, yeah. >> i'm calling -- i'm using this platform to call for this to fallback. i understand if you forgot your headphones. i understand if you're busy, but unless it is an emergency like audio from the doctor or your kid, i have seen people pull up -- i saw someone listen to a newscast. i'm glad people want to listen to the news. playing high volume in the subway, lisa. you've been in the new york subway. >> i have, all the time. >> 40 people packed together. one person is doing this. i had two thoughts. one, is anyone going to say

anything? nobody did. we're living with the tyranny of the loud phone. that's my fallback. >> i will weigh in. i think -- everywhere in the country for some reason there's a greater percentage in manhattan, but i don't know that of people who think they're the only people in the world. they just carry on the conversation. doesn't matter who is around them. walk the middle of the street. they just so self absorbed. that's not a majority. but there are a lot of people you encounter around the country where you see them on airplanes a lot. trading stocks on their phone or something. man, shut up. >> yeah, we all have to hear it. >> you're not the only person here. >> i will also acknowledge there's a lot of main character energy in this city of which we live. i'm guilty of it sometimes, too. yes, please, lower your phones

when you're on the subway. >> right, it's a lot. >> yeah. >> any other big differences before i let you go, james, between new york and the rest of the world? >> every time i come to new york city, it makes me proud to be an american. i was 33, first time i ever came here on central park south, it was december. it was like 30 degrees. and man, people move around here. i like this. okay. and i was just flying in here. you come in and you see the postcard. and you go, damn, i like that place. >> i love that. >> i do. i love new orleans. i love all of the other places in the world. but never understood why to be a real american you had to dislike new york. i think new york is the great american accomplishment. i really do. i'm not pandering. i actually mean that. >> i love that for us. >> you come in and you see it. and you see lower manhattan and you see midtown. you see the park.

you see upper manhattan, the whole thing. my heart -- you know, my heart rate goes up a little bit. i'm honest with you. i do. >> i love that. lisa, final word. >> how can you top that. the man has endorsed the city in which you and i both live and chose to live. i'm not from here originally. i'm from california, san fernando valley, had an access of my own i shed it. i was 18 years old on a trip and thought, thank god. never want to leave. >> the only thing i shed is hair. >> there you have it. james carville, lisa ruben on a fallback on more than one topic. thanks to both of you. fallback on more than one topic. thanks to both of you.

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a lot of different ways to get information, news or even have a little fun. i like to tell you guys if you're interested, we do post on tiktok, not only highlights from the show but a lot of other stuff there, including behind the scene things, encounters

i've had with beat viewer. sometimes i get into travel tips. so you can come for the news and stay for all the other extra stuff. it's @arimelber on tiktok. and here is what you're missing. >> look at that. my new grill champion. >> win with us or watch us win. cheers. >> spreading massive fraud and dominion china, hunter biden, thank you very much, stormy daniels. >> your top public speaking tip. >> lead with your main point. >> it's that simple. >> those who can't farm -- >> farm celery. >> i love it. we love jamaica. we're inside the white house. amazing. and there is a white house ginger bread house. look who walks in. obama poster cornell belcher. >> i'm fresh today. >> i don't use tiktok to accomplish what is objectively

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