. good to be with you. abortion is the issue that just won't lay low. it seems every few weeks there's new legislation or a new court decision. this time, it is a twofold ruling from the florida supreme court. one that democrats think will both agitate people and motivate them to go to the polls this november. on agitation, the state's high court decided that the constitutional right to privacy did not guarantee the right to an abortion. meaning the state's six-week ban will soon take effect. the courts also ruled that an amendment to protect abortion rights can be on the ballot this fall. effectively ticking people off enough while also giving them a concrete chance to act on that

anger. could that turn florida blue? it's still a long shot but it does give dems another opportunity to say look, voters, this is what happens when you let the other guys win. and while dems have this opportunity, republicans are hoping for their own opportunity on an issue they think they have the upper hand. let us start with abortion. joining us now, "washington post" national reporter covering abortion, car caroline kitchened matt dixon. you guys have done a lot of reports on what's happening in florida. matt, this ruling, talk to me about the political underpinnings of it. >> yeah, it's a huge win for democrats here in florida who haven't had a win in a decade or more. the biden campaign released a memo yesterday first given to nbc news that sort of said they're going to build their florida strategy around the issue of abortion and really tieing it to yesterday's

two-part rulings. so democrats are really hoping this is going to sort of put florida's battleground state again. it hasn't been in a little while. it's yet to see how that's going to play out because florida has gone very red but democrats seem to think they have some momentum and this has been an issue that's been very good for them in the past. >> talk about the memo that's circulating within the biden campaign about how to go about this. >> yeah, the biden campaign is really stressed that in both, they're using this restrictive six week stuff to really talk about how important it's going to be in november when it's on the ballot. if it passes, it needs 60% to pass. so it's a high bar, but they're going to use both prongs of this to sort of motivate from an organizing perspective and get florida back on the map nationally. the state has fallen off the national radar going back to 2016 when president trump first won the state, so i think the effort is to sort of amplify and

lift florida up. now we'll see if the money follows. >> let's play a little bit of the reaction from florida. let's start, caroline, with some women reacting to this florida state supreme court ruling. >> i think it's really sad to even think of having the option of an abortion in our state. i think that people should have more morals. >> i've got a daughter so i want to, you know, also i'm her advocate and now she's of age to vote, too. so i'm hoping she exercises that right but yeah, that's a big deal to both of us. >> so caroline, democrats want voters to go to the polls in november to vote for this ballot initiative and while they're there, they're hoping that they're also going to vote for the democrats that are on the ballot. both president biden and the senate candidate. let me ask you about the other side of this ruling. the ruling that says that

getting an abortion is not a constitutional right because it doesn't fall under the constitutional right to privacy. how did the court fall on that? >> well, the court said that there is no right to abortion in florida's constitution and that is going to trigger a six-week abortion ban in the state. which you know, i've been talking all morning, all night, to abortion providers, not just in florida, but across the country, who are really having a hard time putting into words the impact that that is going to have. not just in florida, but really across the entire country. there are 80,000 women that get abortions in florida every year. which is far more than any other span state that we have seen so far. so really the ripple effects of that ruling are going to be massive. and you're going to have voters living with that on the ground reality for six months before they get the opportunity to vote on it. >> let's see what the consequences of that are come

november. you can see on the map we had how abortion has been changed all around the country. when you're talking about having a six-week ban in florida, it's not so easy. the state's also very big. but it's not so easy to drive to another state to get access because the states around it have very limited abortion allowances as well. let me play a doctor from florida today talking about how this might impact healthcare. >> we know that we are doing harm to our patients by banning and restricting abortion. and it's challenging. i think from the community, there are big ask is to leave this to healthcare providers and patients. we're looking at abortion deserts where people, if they have the means necessary to travel, will have to go elsewhere for their care. >> do you think women will die? >> absolutely. >> that was at a reproductive freedom hearing in ft.

lauderdale. caroline, how is this news being taken among more broadly the medical establishment within florida? >> well, i just spoke last night with a woman that i interviewed extensively last year for a story who almost died because she had a pregnancy complication at 16 weeks of pregnancy and she was turned away from a hospital. she was just distraught to hear this and just terrified about what it would mean for other women in circumstances like hers. she said to me, i asked her if she had a message for women in florida right now who are pregnant and you know, feel like they need an abortion for a pregnancy complication after that six-week mark. and she said run. run to another state. that is her message. >> again, the closest clinic where abortion will now be legal after the six-week mark for someone living in the southern part of florida will be a 14-hour drive away from charlotte. thank you. matt, thank you as well. let's move on now to what

republicans are hanging their hats on. that is immigration. voters tended to give the gop higher marks on the issue and this time, that is been supercharged potentially by the number of migrants that have arrived in cities far from the border. according to a poll, about two-thirds of americans do not approve of biden's handling of the border, including four in ten democrats. joining us now are vaughn hillyard. also with me is the cook political report senior editor, david wasserman. vaughn, this is such a thorny issue because the biden administration when they're talking about immigration, will say listen, we came to a compromise in the senate. a conservative leaning compromise on the issue of immigration and it wasn't democrats who were shooting it down. it was republicans who shot it down. republicans in the senate. republicans in the house. at the request of donald trump. so how is donald trump then trying to take that issue, which

he torpedoed and try to run on it? try to campaign on it? >> reporter: well, i think that's what we're about to watch, katy. you're the one that just said it. he urged his republican colleagues in the united states congress to kill the bill and they effectively did. and now for the next seven month, he, as we are witnessing at this very moment, i was just listening to him give these remarks in grand rapids, michigan, and using anecdotally the lives of undocumented immigrants, as emotional motivation to have the american electorate rally around republicans including him come november. and yet, what we have seen, this is a playbook we have seen from donald trump before. the question is, will it work this go around. in july of 2015, you and i were in phoenix, arizona, his first megarally. and one of the speakers at this

event was the father of an individual killed by an undocumented immigrant. donald trump has used these stories to try to motivate the base in support to rally around him. i can go back to a past job of mine in 2010. steve king, the former congressman from iowa, made a claim that 9,000 americans were killed annually by undocumented immigrants. this is something americans have heard, this severe immigration rhetoric for a long time. but frankly, the data does not bear out the fact that undocumented immigrants kill americans at any greater rate than legal americans, if you will. but that is the difficult part here and especially when you're dealing with devastating, tragic stories like the one in georgia. donald trump has made it clear he's going to try to use those tragedies for his political gain. >> the data isn't emotional as a

grieving family. dave, tell me how you see this broadly playing in the electorate? >> 2024 is coming down abortion versus immigration and the dilemma for democrats and president biden is do you run on your strongest issue, abortion, where the nbc poll most recently found democrats with an advantage of 12 points on that question, were under weakest issue and trying to confront it head on and preempt donald trump's attacks on what he calls open borders and every state being a border state. there is a blueprint for democrats here from the new york special election where tom suozzi took this head on and blamed his republican opponent and her party for failing to take yes for an answer. for failing to advance the senate immigration compromise. and president biden, for his sake, probably needs to be out there driving that. the question is how much money are democrats going to put behind their counter to

republicans on immigration? or are they going to try to stay on offense. >> can you give me more information about the tom suozzi campaign? it's not tom suozzi running in new york city where it's very blue. it's tom suozzi running on long island. give me the context on the atmosphere, the environment of that campaign. >> it was a raw kuss atmosphere and when pilip was holding events, suozzi showed up and blamed republicans in congress for being obstructionists. that's the kind of getting into the mud with trump that the biden campaign will need to engage in between now and the election if they're going to wrestle this out because polls are showing republicans with a much larger advantage on immigration than democrats have on abortion and even in a state like florida where the biden campaign has announced they're opening offices. it's become politically an

extension of the midwest. the same types of places like ohio and kansas where you've seen these referendums to enshrine access to abortion pass on the ballot, but we have not yet seen proof this trickles up and benefits democratic candidates unless the republican nominee has taken an extreme no exceptions position on it such as in the michigan governor's race, for example. or in pennsylvania. and donald trump has been hard to pin down on abortion. he's been all over the map throughout his career. that's the challenge for democrats. >> do you look more, do you put more stock, dave, in the polling surrounding these issues or more stock in the elections that we've seen? we've seen special election after special election. sometimes in very red places, most recently in alabama, where the issue of not abortion, but reproductive rights has been on the ballot and democrats have won. when you look at what might happen in november, do you look at the polls or past elections?

>> the answer is they're not necessarily at odds. yes, we are seeing democrats win when abortion is front and center in alabama for example, in the wake of the ivf ruling. but we are seeing democrats not named joe biden doing better in both polls and elections than joe biden is doing in polls. for example, in new york's third district where tom suozzi won that race by eight points, the same polls that showed suozzi ahead in that race showed joe biden narrowly trailing in a district he carried by eight points in 2020. so i believe what the polls show, which is that biden has his work cut out for him and democrats have a long way to go to get back to the numbers he enjoyed with younger voters and young voters of color, particularly young men of color, to get to that window. considering 2020 was virtually a tie. >> dave, vaughn, thank you very much.

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donald trump has posted bond getting the guarantee from knight specialty insurance in california. now his legal team moves on to the next challenge, the hush money trial where the gag order has been expanded. joining us now, garrett haake and lisa rubin. so, garrett, the gag order was expanded after donald trump was going after judge merchan's daughter. how is the trump team reacting? >> they argued it's unconstitutional, political speech by donald trump. the most protected form of political speech and that any effort to curtail anything he might say, particularly in advance of his trial, is prior restraint and is

unconstitutional. the whole thing ought to be thrown out. i think there's also some tension here between trump's lawyers who would probably like him to say less about all this and trump himself who seems almost personally inclined to test the limits of gag orders on what he can say at any time. two weeks really between now and when the trial starts is a lot of time for him to test those fences. >> does he just see any potential consequences as politically expedient for him? >> i think whether it's a fine or the names of jurors being withheld from him, which is one of the things that's been laid out by judge merchan as a consequence. i'm hard pressed to imagine trump attacking potential jurors before a verdict. so up to and including those penalty, he might see the political benefit but donald trump does not want to go to jail. he does not want to be detained. he doesn't want to test those

limits. he's made as much clear publicly. there will be a sort of careful dance here to see how much he can get away with and push the envelope to benefit himself particularly without taking that risk. >> maybe he's banking on judge merchan not wanting to put him in jail. >> that's possible but judging from this order, he's drawn a clear line in the sand. not only is one of the consequences violating this losing the right to jurors name, but he's saying any violation of this order will result in sanctions under judiciary law section 750 a3 and 51. those deal with criminal contempt where the punishment can include up to 30 days imprisonment. >> yesterday, nicolle wallace had on a judge whose son was killed by a deranged guy who was angry at her for a ruling. just underscoring the danger

that court officials now currently face. it was a horrible story. do you hear anything from donald trump's team about potentially putting people in danger? is anybody, donald trump might not be concerned about it, but does anyone else around him share that concern? >> certainly not on the record. i should say it's not for lack of information like the interview you're describing which i doubt many of them have seen. it was only in 2018 when you had a trump supporter mailing pipe bombs around the country ahead of the midterms essentially targeting donald trump's enemies. this kind of thing has always been out there with trump. this flirtation of violent rhetoric that sometimes he tries to put distance between himself and its use in public, which sometimes he does not. this particular it ration has no real interest in trying to curb this behavior. they've made it clear that

letting trump be trump is their plan and to tell him to back off this language is probably a quicker way for them to get fired than it is to change donald trump's behavior. >> it was judge salas who she had on yesterday. again, just a horrible story. lisa, that's the sort of thing that has to be weighing on judge merchan's mind. >> it does. yes, judge merchan must be concerned for himself and his family. as recently as last night, laura loomer, the instigator of the post about judge merchan's daughter, judge an goran's wife, but taking a step back from his family, one of the things he does in this order is connect the threats being made to the fear that would strike in the heart of any participant in this trial including potential jurors. he says the pattern of attacking family members of presenting jurors and attorneys serves no legitimate purpose. it merely injects fear in those

assigned or called to participate in the proceedings that not only they, but their family members are fair game. and that is a fair thing to say. if you're a member of the jury pool here and you fear you might be selected, when you see donald trump go out and go after merchan's daughter and you know he's got a statutory right to your name, it's not too far a bridge to think that could be me, the people i love. >> this is one of the things i thought would be hard for any trial of donald trump is seating a jury because if those names are out there, you can imagine. even if donald trump was going after him individually, there might be some of his supporters and there would be real fear for jurors and their and their family's safety. we've seen it once with the e. jean carroll trial. we have seen it done successfully. seating a jury twice. we'll see how this plays out. jury selection starts on april 15th. who knows how long that's going to take.

thank you very much. garrett haake, thank you as well. truth social has been publicly trading for one week. what happened to make the stock fall off a cliff? and the extraordinary move the biden administration made after the iranian consulate in syria was bombed. syria was bombed

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said were quote unintentional. joining us now, josh lederman. so what do we know about what happened last night? >> reporter: according to the israeli government as you point out, this was unintentional. in fact, the president of israel spoke shortly ago with chef andres and apologized for this incident. so israel appears to be saying that yes, it was their military that struck this convoy, but that it was not an intentional targeting of these aid workers. but that is hard to square with what world central kitchen say, which is that there's no reason the israeli government shouldn't have known exactly where these vehicles were because this aid convoy was coordinated with them. because it had the world central kitchen logo on the vehicle as you can see clearly right there. and so there's going to be some real questions israel has to answer in the course of this investigation into how it could be that the people who had their

finger on the trigger of these air strikes were unaware of information that had apparently been provided to israel's government. israel says they're going to set up what they're calling a joint situation room with the aid organizations that are active in gaza so that everyone is around the same table and they can, in real time, coordinate these deliveries. they say that will hopefully prevent this kind of thing from happening again but these aid groups in these countries that have lost their citizens are not taking that as a sufficient answer right now given that we are nearly six months into this war and we've seen so many aid workers fall victim to this same fate. >> a number of foreign passport holders were killed in the strikes including an american, canadian, a british citizen, australian as well. there are local reports about this not being just one strike, but multiple strikes on this

convoy. thank you very much. the biden administration did something extraordinary in the wake of the iranian consulate bombing in syria yesterday, reaching out directly to iran to say the u.s. had nothing to do with it and knew nothing about it according to two u.s. officials who spoke with nbc news. it is extraordinary because we don't have diplomatic relations with iran. meaning we don't talk to them. and it applies there are deep concerns at the white house about the strike which iran says killed a number of its revolutionary guard members including a senior official. joining us now, courtney. explain why this is so sensitive. >> what you said. because the u.s. and iran do not have diplomatic relations. so the fact the united states decided yesterday to reach out directly to iran to assure tehran that the u.s. was not involved in those strikes in syria just indicates how seriously those strikes were taken here in d.c. and also the concerns about the possibility

for some sort of retaliatory action. carol lee and i reported this last night that the u.s. reached out directly, but it was confirmed the u.s. did use some private channels to reach out to iran about this. she declined to say who was on either side. it was not just to say that the u.s. was a part of the strikes, but that the u.s. was not informed about the targets of the strikes. that was part of the message as well. >> do we know who did the strikes? who's behind it? >> while israel is not confirming it, u.s. officials are confident that is who's behind it. a number of u.s. officials and they're starting to talk about it more openly here in d.c. but what we still don't have confirmation from the u.s. and frankly we may not get that anytime soon. is who exactly was killed here.

they are acknowledging that they believe that a top iranian revolution guard official, that he was there and killed in the strike as well as some other senior iranian officials. but beyond that, we don't have a lot more fidelity from the u.s. side. of course, iranian state media and syrian media are naming others. the challenge here is that the u.s. doesn't have anyone inside damascus, so it may be difficult for them to get a good sense of who was killed here. >> thank you very much. still ahead, a lane was opened under the remains of the key bridge. what exactly is able to get through? first though, what will enid, oklahoma do? a white supremacist on the city council faces a recall vote today. ll vote today. i know what it's like to perform through pain. if you're like me, one of the millions suffering from pain caused by migraine, nurtec odt may help. it's the only medication

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a few weeks ago, we told you about a recall election in enid, oklahoma, where a group of the town's residents are trying to get a white supremacist off its city council. he took part in the march of charlottesville, the town is getting a chance to reconsider. joining us now, nbc's senior reporter. you've been reporting on this, how the women leading this

charge have had to meet in secret, how there are real threats to their safety. what's happening today and what are the expectations of the town? >> reporter: yeah, hi, katy. we are in front of a polling place right now. we've been watching people go in and out all day and they are deciding whether or not they should remove blevins. we are seeing some people who support blevins who say he made a mistake, deserves a second chance. he's been a pretty good city councilman, but i would say the prevailing wisdom here is that people are telling us they didn't know or they didn't know the full extent of his organizing with white nationalists before he was voted in and a lot of people are saying they never voted before or they didn't vote in the last election but they are sending a strong message that he does not belong in office. >> you've tried to get answers

from blevins. were you able to get any answers from him? >> reporter: i tried to talk to him last month. that did not go so well, but i did run into him today. he was holding a sign on the side of the road and had a little off camera chat with him. he said he is willing to respect the voters' wishes, that he trusts them but that he's willing to step aside and not run again should he lose today. he was at a forum last week where he told residents of enid he did march in charlottesville and said he would do it again. that he went to defend history. he also talked a lot about white grievance, how there's anti white hatred in the media and entertainment. he also did say he is against any form of racism. >> what about the women who started this campaign? the two, i believe they're

grandmothers that you were able to speak with. how are they doing? >> reporter: connie and nancy are doing well. nancy is a poll worker at a different location so she is doing her civic duty there. connie, we just ran into. we got her voting today. so they're doing well. we're going to meet up with them later at jezebel's, a local tea shop, to have a watch party and see if their hard work has come to fruition. >> we're going to watch what happens and truth social hit the nasdaq last week with a bang but now it's taking blows. the stock, which is listed at djt, lost roughly $4 billion in value in its first week of trading, which translates to more than a billion dollar loss in net worth for trump himself as the majority shareholder. joining us now, cnbc political finance reporter, brian schwartz. so brian, what happened? >> well, you know, this is how it's been.

for the trump media company, they announced they had a $58 million net loss last year so came into this year with that type of loss. that would really shake the nerves of any shareholder. the company has also disclosed their business model really hangs on the popularity of donald trump. there's a potential here where the movement of the stock, the volatility of the stock really in a way connects back to donald trump's political career and the volatility we're seeing in the polls and where he's at versus joe biden. so that's the situation here for the stock and the company as we go forward. there's some unknowns as to how this is going to play out and work for the trump media business and it really goes back to where trump is in his popularity in the political world. >> given the volatility, people were already calling it a meme stock before it went public. why bring it public? >> that's a great question.

they've been working on this for years. i don't think there was any way to stop it from going public. the trump media side had been having different conversations, this is through different filings about bringing this thing public. holding a vote and trying to find the ability to get the, this vote passed to the degree of getting it public and bringing it to the nasdaq and it finally did. they've been working on this for so long. i just don't sense there was any way they could stop this and i don't think they wanted to stop it from going public. i think there was a need to get this trump media thing on the nasdaq an to really see where it could go and trade and right now, it's so volatile we don't know how this is going to end up for the stock and the shareholders in just a matter of weeks. >> donald trump has lost at least a billion dollars in value so far. there was talk about him potentially using this money or trying to get out of the rules to post this money for bond or try to post it for, to get bond. what do we know about how

closely donald trump's own money is tied into the stock? >> well, he can't cash out his millions of shares for at least another six months. that's from a lockout agreement. he can't go and touch these shares right now, but if he acquired a waiver, if there was an approval process he made through the company leadership that would lead to a waiver where he could cash out the shares immediately, he could use that cash for whatever he wants. there is no stopping him with that money once he can cash out that, those shares, and he could use it to pay his legal bills. he could use it on a variety of other subjects regarding his legal situations right now. so it's unclear if that's actually going to happen, but there's a scenario where he could get that waiver approved and use that money for whatever he needs. >> if the largest stakeholder cashes out his stake, that can't be good for the future of the company and the future of the stock. brian, really good to have you. thank you so much for joining us. coming up, what the senate is doing to protect patients after allegations private equity

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but there is some good news. a small channel has been cleared allowing some boats to pass through. tom, the mapping of the river floor there shows quite a tangled mess. >> that's where i want to start. we've got these incredible images. sonar imagery from the navy salvage team. this is a sonar image of the wreckage of the bridge on the river bottom. it is twisted, turned upside down in places because of course when it went down, it was torqued and twisted on the way down. the trouble is this is as good as it gets in terms of the imagery in the water. as soon as dive teams go in and they light it up with a under water light, it is so muddy and so you know, difficult to see through that water, cloudy, it's like shining a light in fog. you get nothing. you can't see anything. so the best image they have is

3-d. now they have to precisely map where exactly the wreckage is on the floor so they can cut it up into small pieces and then wrench it out. pull it out with the crane. but if the diver gets too close, that is razor sharp. they are very concerned that divers might be injured. their suits or tubes or their oxygen could be cut. so they've got a very, very challenging job here. the army corp. of engineers and the coast guard all saying this is one of the most challenging operations they've ever been on. now, next to that, you've seen them already cutting pieces of the bridge above water, right? about a 200-ton piece was cut there over the weekend. then they used a massive crane to pick it up and pull it out. that's just the tiniest piece of the bridge they've got to remove and as you can see, what's under water is far from challenging and potentially dangerous to divers and to future boats and ships.

now as for that channel you talked about, they have opened a small channel but that is really only for the boats involved in this operation. tugs, barges, coast guard boats. with a relatively shallow bottom to their own boats. you don't want anything that's going to go too deep because you might hit the wreckage. so because that, we're seeing minimal traffic right now. only in that area. there you see a little bit of traffic picking up there. very shallow boats that can move in and out, in and out of baltimore, that is still quite a ways off, katy. >> let me ask you about the container ship. is there a plan to take the containers off the ship in order to lighten the load to get it out of there more easily, eventually. >> absolutely. but they have to get the bridge on of container ship and as we saw, just that piece on the bow of the ship is three to four

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a senate committee has sent letter tos three private equity firms on through they run the e.r. as they are putting profits over patients. joining us now founder of take medicine back, dr. mitchell lee. thank you very much. what is at the core of the allegation here? >> so, there is a concern by the senate committee on homeland security that financialization and private equity but not limited to private equity is causing a potential for a

national security risk in terms of our nation's ability to respond to disaster, whether that be man made or anything local or abroad. >> explain how private equity firms might be imperilling or the like imperilling patient care. >> so, the senate of homeland security used the terminology, the corporate practice of medicine in their actual letters. and in a concept is a concept that physicians and the physician-patient relationship is the priority, it is -- it is the primary concern for patients and physicians. it should be a pure relationship. and what we have seen is that private equity firms are probably most extreme form of the corporate practice of medicine when physicians, they make medical decision and staffing and how long you get to

see your physician if you see one at all, these are all concepts the corporate business model and it is considered ant thet cal to the practice of medicine. they consider the private equity business model to be antithetical to a stable health care system that benefits the public. >> so i've seen allegations that e.r.s are cut to the bone, staffing levels are greatly reduced, patient care has diminished, beds are not available. eve seen e.r.s closed in neighborhoods that need them. there has been all sorts of allegations that patient care was either nonexistent or greatly reduced. what is the experience that you personally have had? >> well, we are seeing essentially complete financialization of the whole health care system. we're seeing everything become about the profits over patients

and physicians take an oath, go to medical school and have an ethical and professional responsibility to put patients first. but 74% of us are now employed by corporates of one form or another. not all private equity, but it is an accelerant to corporate consolidation that creates a situation where corporator corporations and hospitals and insurance and private equity firms even big tech have increased control over physicians so i unfortunately lived through this when was i doing my training in saint john in detroit which is a hospital system that had contracted with an independent physician group. however, that physician group was acquired by team hnl, a large contract management group while i was training and then after that, or during my training it was acquired bay blackstone, one of the largest private equity firms in the world and i immediately starting to see that all of our --

everything became about profit and not about the patients even my training itself, i had our attending physicians who had to work under the model told me that i'm not gooding to teach you medicine, i'm going to teach you how to survive because that is what it feels like on a daily basis. >> we have a number of statements from the company that have been involved but the one that you just mentioned blackstone, and also kkr, both of them declined to comment on this senate letter. dr. mitchell lee, thank you very much. i appreciate it. thank you very much for coming on. and that is going to do it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. ♪♪ hi there, everyone. it is 4:00 in new york. the judge who was set to preside over the first ever criminal trial of an ex president of the united states saying enough today. judge