might vote for him. i don't think those people were ever going to vote for biden, the question is, would they vote for trump and maybe he will peel some people off of trump but i think when people get to know more about bobby kennedy, unfortunately for the kennedy family who have a lot of respect and sympathy for, he will,, the name of the kennedy family will be drug through the mud when he gets done with his campaign. >> thank you both so much for coming on. good to see you both. and for all of you, that will do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports, we will be back at 1:00 eastern and in the meantime, msnbc prime weekend is next. is next.

stories. >> donald trump has not come up with a magical solution to stop lakisha james from taking his assets to guarantee the payment for his civil fraud trial against donald trump. >> the merger announced to today from a higher company called the digital world acquisition company can do nothing to change his financial capacities on monday when donald trump hits the deadline for satisfying the judgment against him. if hehe had 46 $4 million, he could just post it with the court. as a guarantee that he could cover the judgment, if he loses his appeal over the case. donald trump does not have that much money, despite claiming to

have much more than that, for many years now. donald trump has not been able to get anyone to lend him that money so that he could post a bond with the court for the judgment, which would then protect his assets. the court gave him donald trump 30 days to figure this out and he has not been able to. now, as financial reality closes in on him, donald trump goes to bed lying and wakes up lying. he posted one of his familiar lies on social media, saying that the judgment against him was unconstitutional and unfair and it was designed by the judge, to not allow me to use any of the large amount of cash i've built up over the years, through hard work, insight, instinct, and diligence, on my political campaign for president. the lie there is that donald

trump does not have hundreds of millions of dollars, he does not have it. and the lie is that he was going to spend that money on his political campaign. that is a complete and total lie. donald trump has never spent one penny of his own money on any of his political campaigns, in his first campaign for president, after promising that he would finance his entire ou campaign himself and would never ask anyone to donate to his campaign, donald trump loaned a total of $10.8 million to his campaign to get it started, and then he quickly began begging for money every day of his life online to his supporters. when his supporters sent them enough money, donald trump paid himself back the $10 million that he loaned to his campaign. no, donald trump is not hoarding large amounts of cash

so that he can spend that money on his political campaign. as he said, just before 2:00 a.m. last night and then he when he woke up this morning, if he slept at all, at 7:14 a.m. he repeated that lie saying i currently have almost $500 million my campaign for president. no he has not. he never intended to use one penny of his own money in his campaign. saying that he now has over $500 million in cash would mean that his lawyers were lying when they told the judge that it was an impossibility. for donald trump to come up with $500 million in cash. his lawyers call that a practical impossibility.

they explained to the court just how thoroughly donald trump failed with coming up with the money. the lawyer said, these diligent efforts have included approaching 30 companies through different brokers and a bond requirement of this magnitude requiring cash reserves approaching $1 billion is unprecedented for a private company. in the manhattan courtroom on monday, the lie of his image building as a politician will be exposed. >> i don't need anybody's money, it's nice, i'm using my own money, i'm not using the lobbyist, donors, i don't care. i'm really rich. >> that was an enormous part of his initial appeal, when he began as a candidate, he mounted other appeals to expand

his base of support. many trump supporters in iowa believed them and said them in interviews. the wells that they believed he had was a virtue. they believe that he would be incorruptible because he had too much money already to be corrupted. donald trump was lying about that. his voters were wrong to believe it. they have forgiven and overlooked every lie that has been exposed. at the end of the day on monday, most of them might still be willing to believe that donald trump is as rich as he has always pretended to be. donald trump knows better. donald trump has proved how rich he is not. to anyone who can think. famous billionaires have no trouble coming up with $500 million. jeff bay most has that in his pocket.

he has given away more money then donald trump has ever had in his life. bill gates has given away ll billions of dollars. the former mayor of new york, mike bloomberg, never brags about his wealth. he could easily cover a sudden bill of $500 million at any time from his current holdings of 10 $6 billion. mike bloomberg started with nothing. he grew up in suburban boston and moved to new york city, had to work to make every single penny that he has earned. and to do it on his own. donald trump hates billionaires like mike bloomberg who came to the big city where donald trump was born rich and left donald trump far behind in the building of important businesses and the accumulation of wealth that staggers donald

trump's poisoned imagination. donald trump has never dared to even pretend that he is as rich as mike bloomberg. reminding younger men like bill gates and jeff bezos who have the stratospheric level of wealth, donald trump sees with jealousy every day of his life. the drama that he is living through tonight and the drama ro that we are all watching, was foretold when the presidential election was called for joe biden and donald trump officially entered the history books as a loser. on that day, peter marx, the critic of the washington post wrote, i imagine it as a chilling final turn of the plot. his world is coming to an end.

he will never have another good day. loser label will haunt him. the law will pursue him. mental illness will hobble him. his properties will bankrupt him. the author of trump nation, host of the bloomberg podcast. and also former fbi general counsel and chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of new york, the co-author of the new york times best selling book, the trump indictments. andrew wiseman, as we close in on monday, what will you be looking for? >> the trial date. looking at the papers, leaving aside one caveat which is not

one of donald trump's lawyers is really a superb ethical lawyer, you never want to count her out. i will be interested to see what that dispense lawyer has to say. having read the papers on both sides, it looks like a minor kerfuffle. the judge will be focused on if there is anything there that will take more than the 30 days that he is granted. and if the judge will stick with this trial starting on ironically giving your opening the april 15th. i expect that the people get a trial date that is if not that date, shortly thereafter. >> tim o'brien, in the civil case now which enters this $450 million collection period, we

get the feeling that you have dealt with donald trump up close, he sued you for telling the truth about how rich he was not. you get the feeling that he does not actually feel and cannot anticipate turn -- danger properly. the danger to anticipate risk is what saves businesses for disaster. that is what saves all areas of life from disaster. he seems surprised that it has come to this. >> business is risk management. he and i were walking around mar-a-lago once talking about when he almost went bankrupt in the 1990s. my father always said to me, never personally guarantee any loans. i personally guaranteed too

much money in the 1990s and i did not think it would catch up with me. i learned my lesson. i later found out that he was lying to me in that very moment. i did not know it, he had personally guaranteed some of the loans on a new building he was developing in chicago that only came out a few years later. he goes through these searing moments where he almost loses everything he has and he has learned these lessons and then lo and behold, he is doing the same old thing. now here we are in 2024. he is about to be exposed and it will be a slow grind. there will not be a lot of drama on monday, the process of opening the kimono and learning that he does not have the financial clothing that he has said that he has, it begins. a demonstration that he does not learn his lessons and does

not anticipate problems properly because he is a delinquent. he lacks the maturity and insight of an adult. >> barbara jones role in this includes the following. it says that she should monitor in advance, any efforts to secure bonds. if anything was going on this weekend, you have to go through her first. it says that she also has the authority to examine any representations made by the trump organization in connection with securing such bonds. it seems to indicate that whatever goes on here cannot be done secretly. even a magical multibillionaire

angel that wants to drop the money in donald trump's pocket, barbara jones will have to know about that. >> that is absolutely right. barbara jones is a federal prosecutor that served as an article three judge in new york and has been engaged in oversight of the trump organization. and the civil fraud case. it has expanded her role to as exactly you said, making sure that there are no financial shenanigans going on. the judge has found that there is a history of fraud and shenanigans and is trying to make sure that does not repeat itself. he will be overseeing if there is a reported sale of an asset that did not really add market value. making sure that there is no fraud going on at the last minute to manufacture this sum

of money that donald trump needs. i would point out the stupidity of donald trump saying today, that he actually has the money. pending before the court he has an application to the court where it is to please lower the bond amount because i cannot pay. at the same time, he has said that i can pay it. put yourself in the shoes of the judges that have that application before them. will they grant that? based on the defendant saying, i can actually pay it. one way or another, someone is lying about that. >> i've never seen a stupider litigant in court on a consistent basis. let me take you back to the criminal prosecution you are talking about in manhattan. it is clear that it is going to

happen, if not in april, certainly by may. with the latest pleadings we have seen in this case, the concern of the recently developed evidence that the district attorney is saying, look, there is not much there, it does not require a lot of time to modify the defense in a way that includes that new evidence. we are going to know. do you expect that we will have a trial date set soon? will the discussion be continued for a bit? >> it is possible. this is a serious judge. he clearly was not happy about this predicament. i would be surprised if we don't hear something from monday or tuesday about the trial date. the papers that were submitted were so thorough.

they gave so many affidavits for what happened, it narrows the issues for the judge on monday. i would be surprised he does not hear from the defense and say, this is the trial date and give everybody advanced warning. >> two donald trump who his mind works like a junkie. when we get past the whole issue of what is happening with the collection of half $1 billion, for any other person, the criminal trial that is right behind him, would be top of mind right now. his brain will not start to worry about that until it is a couple of days before going to trial. >> he might have to testify.

he is a lawyer's worst nightmare on the stand. he lies and he does not stay on script and he is not listening to any advise he is getting from them right now. it is a legal equivalent of what he does in business to not anticipate the freight trains that are rolling towards him in an existential way and he does not know what to do. >> tim o'brien will stay with us. andrew wiseman thank you for starting off the discussion tonight. as his first criminal trial approaches, you can now listen to the key experts of that indictment read by glenn close. >> on the hush money payments, the defendant, donald j trump repeatedly falsified new york business records to conceal

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american attorney general first move against donald trump's assets will be the most liquid assets beginning, of course, with cash. the new york times reports that she could send so-called restraining notices to mr. trump's banks and brokerage firms effectively freezing his account. she can do the same to anyone

who owes mr. trump money collecting rent from tenants in his building. here's what the new york assistant attorney general said last night on this program about what we can expect to see next week. >> what we should see on monday after the expiration of the deadline is a few does ices used to enforce the judgment. the first is bank executions for the attorney general to enlist the sheriff for marshall, the wild west meets new york city to execute on banks and assets held on financial institutions. >> what does execute mean? >> execute, no one is dying. the assets are seized by the sheriff and turned over to the attorney general's office to the state of new york. >> right away? no judicial process involved? >> after going after trump's

bank accounts, attorney general james will likely move on to seizing his personal property, planes, property, jewelry, real estate such as trump tower or the national golf resort. joining us, is tim o'brien. mark, the sheriff is coming. literally, the sheriff is coming. >> he does not wear a hat. we picture it in our minds eye that they will come on monday and have people running around the city there will be a lot of paper shuffling. there are processes there that will take a little longer than what is outlined.

these will be used simultaneously. let's go after the low hanging fruit. bank accounts. here is what happens, you deliver a piece of paper to the sheriff called the execution. that paper is brought to the bank. it secures the attorney general's position on those accounts. the restraining order sometimes only preserves it for another creditor that comes first. you have to have that levy. if the money is not turned over, which it usually is not there is a turnover proceeding brought which is the order from the court to turn over the proceedings to the attorney general. it happens, not in a matter of seconds. at the same time, she will be turning her attention to real estate. that's tricky, she can only order the sale of what mr. trump has. 40 wall street which we have seen talked about a lot in the

media. he does not own the building. it is a ground lease. he leases the ground that the building is on. >> yes, the tenant is the owner of the building. she can come in and foreclose on it and the sheriff will levy on it. it will be put up for auction and who will buy it? how much will they pay for it? there might be an order from the court's where she can keep temporarily the fees that are coming in from the tenant and the building owner. he does not own a. in other situations, the real estate is owned by various corporations and he has an interest in corporations. you cannot get real estate sold that way. all that can happen is the attorney general -- >> they don't want a transaction that is that

complicated. >> there is stock in the company where they might have liabilities. in a business transaction you are not going to buy stock because you do not know the liabilities that come with the asset. >> tim o'brien, i am shocked that donald trump does not own what he says he owns. he has this new deal that he is happy about, this merger, with his website worth nothing. that will not affect his financial picture on monday. >> the value of the shares are going to be variable over time. that will not be attractive to them because they cannot predict what the value of it will be over time once it is publicly traded.

it has all been full of speculative collapses. the operating numbers of this particular company are not great. with trump's name being attached to it. his name being attached to something does not necessarily mean permanent value or ownership. there are a number of buildings in new york, a german family owns the land under 40 wall street. it is mostly owned by the condo owners in that apartment. he does not own the home building. >> i have to ask you, we have been talking about his inability to anticipate danger and anticipate trouble. you have represented clients where the judgment has gone against them. at what point in the proceedings do you tell your client, if this judgment goes against you, here is what the proceeding is going to be.

i will suspect you tell them that early in the process. somewhere in the first week or so. there are a lot of things to think about. >> 100%. probably the first conversation after you get your retainer. absolutely. >> what would you have said? in a case like this, there is business fraud here, the attorney general has what they have. if the judge signs against you, what would you've told your client early on in a case like this? >> i will tell them what will happen. if we lose, i will give an honest view of the merits of the case. some of the clients will ask, if i lose, can i get my assets and do anything about it? and i say, that is not why i am representing you for. if he wants to do things like planning to get his assets out of the jurisdiction, i don't

get involved with that. i'm sure he has had extensive counseling at this point. on monday, this merger, you will not do him any good. the court will not take it, the court only wants cash. the bond company will not take it. it is speculative and if they took and they had to pay out, what would it be worth? finally, it will be attached by lakisha james, the money will go to her. it's nothing. >> prime time weekend continues ahead. inues ahead. an: you too. >> tech: schedule today at safelite.com. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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recounts, and that results are not certified. it is described as a constellation of local events. they pose a real challenge for 2024 headed into what is the contested election and potential other levels. these changes and efforts might be linked by perpetrators of these events that are taking funding from these types of people and subscribing themselves to the conspiracy theories about elections being fraudulent. i appreciate you being here, thank you so much for your time. >> thanks for having me. >> how much commonality is

between the different type of instances that you have found, 15 instances you have reported since 2020 where local republican officials have refused to certify election results. >> the commonality is that they are not based in reality. carried out by people that believe lies and theories about election fraud. >> in terms of where this is coming from, it is essentially organized efforts and you subscribed to links and network patterns that are funded by the same sorts of entities and are attending to these same sorts of information. are they working together to see doubts about 2024? >> they are reading and absorbing the same type of materials about election fraud and conspiracies as a lot of other americans are. kind of like decentralized coordination i guess.

they are listening to what trump says and they are believing it. >> one of the experts that you cite says that part of the strategy is to create chaos and create a false basis for challenging the outcome. part of the idea here is that you can create smoke for any number of reasons and if you create enough smoke you can create the illusion that there is fire. with false claims of a like that there is something wrong. otherwise i would not be hearing all of these controversies. >> that would be the case. you can look to that executive order that you talked about earlier.

it is evidence of the phenomenon of creating smoke and saying that there is a fire. somebody did that last time around and they refused to certify the account, let's seize the voting machines. >> this piece is called 2024 chaos, election deniers refusing to certify results. you did a really good job of putting the pins on the map here. this will be important over the next eight months as we see this inevitably spread. thank you for reporting. >> prime time weekend continues with my colleague, joy reed. >> abortions are at the highest level across the nation. despite claiming that they will leave abortion up to the state. stay with us.

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most private moments of your life at a time when you are feeling lost and feeling vulnerability. i knew that this was a unique opportunity. i am right in the middle of what is the most critical intersection in the conversation about reproductive health care and access to abortion. i have been a patient seeking abortion and a medical provider in the healthcare space and now a lawmaker. i have seen and experienced firsthand, from every angle, how our decisions have failed the people of arizona. i have an obligation to those that elected me to do what i can to be an advocate. i feel like i had to take the opportunity. >> what struck me was the infantilization of women involved in this process. when you are being said that you have to watch a video about adoption as an option, your pregnancy is nonviable. there is no adoption option.

is this what the status is that women have to be lectured about their health. who is giving this speech? >> just to clarify, it's not a video that i have to watch, it is my medical provider that is required to say a number of things regardless of the circumstances that the individual is in. what we should have is a stakeholder process when creating laws about reproductive health care which will include medical organizations and doctors who are working in their field. they are being legislated against. it is extremist politicians with no background in healthcare that are writing these scripts for the doctors and they are not interested in patients having good outcomes. or getting high quality care. they want to manipulate and frighten patients and they are using laws to course doctors into changing their patients mind is no regard to changing

the patients mind. i was told that i could consider parenting or adoption, which is an unkind and cruel thing to someone who is experiencing a pregnancy loss. i was told that if i told them to continue the trinity that the father would have to financially support me. which in my case, is my husband, and that is a ridiculous thing to say. they have no regard for individual circumstances, they are being told what to say. >> you are someone who has been pregnant before. people are assuming that people who are in this situation are people who do not want to be a parent. you are a parent. no? >> i am a parent. i have two little boys who i love and am so lucky to have. we have actively tried to get pregnant for a long time.

this time we were not actively trying to get pregnant and we were not actively trying to not get pregnant. we were letting things happen. we will see when we cross that bridge and when we found out we were pregnant, we were very excited about it. there is this narrative that people who are against abortion are pushing back about who the abortion patient is. i felt it was important to me that i had to show that the abortion patient can come from anywhere and can be in any different circumstance. what is happening to me is really common. pregnancy failure and loss is incredibly common. we are patients too and all of our rights deserve the same regard. >> arizona is one of the states with arkansas, california, that are going to enshrine the new woman's right to abortion.

i have had three children and the idea of forcing someone to do this, if the child is nonviable or in the case of rape or incest, will that be a voting issue this year? >> this is a critical time when it comes to restoring abortion. this would enshrine abortion access into arizona's constitution. because we are a background with the state to have the opportunity to flip the house and senate in november. >> absolutely. i am wishing you well in your house and what you are trying to do for women. thank you so much. this has been prime time weekend, i am joy reed, please

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