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sweet time on it, so we're going to have to wait and see what's going to happen there, but you think this should -- the house bill or some version of it should be passed? >> i do. i think it's very clear the potential connectivity between tiktok, the chinese communist party that. is something we cannot allow here in the united states, again, particularly in an election year when there are pre-existing divisions in society. we're a pool of gasoline here a tiktok flare fired by a chinese communist party could be just the thing to set things off. >> we're going to have to leave it there, james stavridis, co-author of the new book "2054." that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." "chris jansing reports" with yasmin vossoughian starts right now. ♪♪ hey, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian in for
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chris jansing live here at msnbc headquarters in new york city. who is in charge? one of the questions at the heart of the hearing over immigration enforcement today, will texas be allowed to take the lead in trying to keep undocumented migrants out of the state? what about the migrants and others who are there legally? could they be at risk as well? plus, the new york attorney general urging the court to reject donald trump's claims that it is impossible to get anyone to cover his half a billion dollars appeal bond. what's one suggested solution, he cover it himself by handing over some of his prized real estate properties to the court. and two more members of mississippi's so-called police goon squad facing justice for their horrific torture of two black men. the latest on the sentence that was just handed down later on in the show. all right, we want to start with the fate and future of america's immigration system,
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potentially hinging on a hugely consequential hearing. on one side, an attorney for texas defending senate bill 4 as a necessary means for self-defense against undocumented migrants coming into this country. his argument, the federal government has failed to secure the border so texas has to step in. the biden administration for their part saying there's plenty texas can do, but they cannot infringe on government authority an issue the judges honed in on right away. >> policies pertaining to the entry of aliens and their right to remain here are entrusted exclusively to congress. >> sure. >> the authority to control immigration to admit or exclude aliens is vested solely in the federal government. >> it seems to me that congress has said we want the immigration laws enforced, and if the united states isn't going to do it, either because they don't have the resources or because they don't have the will, well,
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they've no longer occupied the field. and you know, i think at that point it would be appropriate under parker v. brown for texas to come in. >> what's your response to that? >> there's a legal response and a factual response, your honor. the legal response, of course, is that the relevant question is what congress has done and congress has robustly occupied this field. but the factual response is there's just -- it's just wrong that the federal government isn't acting in this area. >> i want to bring in nbc's david noriega in eagle pass, texas, nbc's monica alba covering the white house for us, and paul butler is a former federal prosecutor, georgetown law professor and an msnbc legal analyst. paul, if you will start things off for us and kind of react to what we just heard, right? this argument being made essentially that this is federal jurisdiction. this is not for texas to decide and to enforce.
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>> yasmin, the constitution says that enforcement of immigration law is a federal matter. each of the 50 states doesn't have independent authority to decide who enters the united states, who can't enter, and what should be the consequences if someone enters without the proper documents. the framers didn't want each state coming up with its own immigration policies and we can see the wisdom of that based on what's going on right now. this bill in texas authorizes cops to deport migrants to mexico. mexico has said it won't accept them, so now this texas negotiated with mexico and then if arizona and nevada passes their own version of this law, we would have a specter of 50 states all coming up with their own immigration laws, and this isn't just speculative, yasmin. iowa just passed a similar bill to texas. >> david, the biden
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administration predicting kind of chaos and confusion, wondering if that's exactly what we saw especially overnight in the last 24 hours with this lapse in this stay. >> reporter: yasmin, the law was not really in place long enough for us to see immediate consequences. it's not just the biden administration that's predicting confusion here. every person i've spoken to who will be tasked with navigating the implementation of this law said they have no idea what it's going to look like. it jumped out to me from the hearing that the lawyer relating representing texas, when it comes to multiple questions about what this law would look like on the ground simply couldn't answer. this applies also to law enforcement. my colleague morgan chesky interviewed a sheriff in valverde county, asked is your department prepared to handle this. take a listen to what the sheriff said. >> so right now we're not equipped to handle that, but again, i will wait for direction
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from our -- from our state partners and visit with our legal before we move forward with any of that enforcement of senate bill 4. >> reporter: the takeaway here, yasmin, is that if this law were to go into effect, either fully or partially, we will very much be in uncharted territory. >> monica, we heard the attorney for texas essentially saying they don't want to replace border patrol. they want to partner with them. what is the biden administration saying about all this and the process really that is taking place right now? >> well, the white house has called the texas law, yasmin, unconstitutional. they've accused the texas governor of really playing political stunts in their words, using migrants, they argue, as political pawns here to score political points, and yesterday when the supreme court did allow this briefly to go forward, they said they fundamentally disagreed with that decision because they argue it will make
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communities less safe and because it does burden law enforcement with that kind of confusion. so i'm told today, now that there is this pause while they try to figure out what happens next, they welcome that so that they have more time for the administration to also continue to make its case, but they do fundamentally believe that this should be determined by the federal government and that there shouldn't be a patchwork of state rulings and state laws that do lead to more confusion but also inconsistency. so this is really something where the biden administration, the white house, the president have continued to talk about the need for more comprehensive immigration reform to a system that the president says himself is completely broken, and that is what they tried to do a couple of months ago in congress with this bipartisan border deal that was coming together before it was torpedoed by some of the republicans who had participated in the negotiations because they were encouraged, according to the white house, not to support it by former president donald trump because it was seen that
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he didn't want to deliver any kind of a victory on this front to the current president as he tries to make the case for re-election. so they're really talking about the politics of all of this, in addition to the policy of it, yasmin, which right now is totally up in the air. >> there's the politics, david. there's the policy, but there's how people are feeling on the ground, right? and i'm reading a lot about a sense of fear amongst migrants in general. a question that was asked in this hearing as to whether or not sb4 could be used to target undocumented migrants who have been here for quite some time. is that something that you are feeling and seeing and hearing from folks there? >> yeah, yasmin, the fear or the concern that this law could be used as a pretext for racial profiing is very much present. it's one of the main concerns that's being raised by particularly liberal advocates, and it is also a concern that's present in latino communities, not just in texas but around the country because as someone pointed out, this could lead to
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similar laws being passed in other states. i do want to say, though, as far as the most immediate probable consequences if this law were to go into effect, texas has already been arresting migrants who cross the border under its program called operation lone star. it's just been arresting them under state trespassing statutes. probably if the law goes into effect, we would see an application that's very similar to that. the people that would be targeted would be migrants that state law enforcement actually directly observes crossing the border into texas. that obviously doesn't negate the possibility that it could be used deeper into the state and applied to other populations, yasmin. >> paul, david brought up a really good point when it comes to possible racial profiling here. it's something i've been thinking a lot about, especially when it came to the stop and frisk policy here in new york, in which many black and brown kids, teenagers were being racially profiled on the streets of new york city. i want to read for you a statement from the texas aclu
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sags sb 4 places our communities and those traveling in texas at higher risk of racial profiling and over policing. in that respect, we are all at risk but our brown and black communities are at greater risk of enforcement of this cruel and unlawful law. are there any limits to keep that from happening? >> i don't see that there are. the police will be authorized to arrest people who they believe are illegally in the united states. how are they going to decide that? we know from practice that people who look like what the officers think are latinx or mexican or hispanic, those are people who are going to be targeted by this law. this is a big law, yasmin, with different parts.
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i'm concerned that the aspects that will lead to racial profiling, the courts may not be that sympathetic to. i have that concern because there was another law passed in arizona in 2010. it's called the show me your papers law, that required immigrants to carry their documentation with them. the court struck down some parts of that law, but it still required showing the police papers for people who are migrants to this country, so i'm not sure the law from the supreme court will actually be sympathetic to the very real concerns about racial profiling. >> monica, you've got mexico's foreign minister saying they're not going to be accepting any deportations from texas. >> exactly, yasmin, and this is really something that comes in the context of the u.s. and mexico trying to work on this issue more broadly over the last couple of years with the president repeatedly speaking to the mexican president about this issue meeting when they are at global summits to try to tackle the larger root causes of
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migration to identify this, and the u.s. has really said for a long time that they need mexico's cooperation and help to address some of this, but it's clear there that in the comments from the mexican government officials this morning, they don't want to take instructions from a particular state versus another one. they also are referencing this larger issue of different rules for different places and that really they feel that conversation does have to take place at the federal level. so they're looking to their own guidance from the biden administration, which has expressed their own concerns. i should point out that the president is on a west coast swing right now. he's doing campaign events in addition to some political and white house-related events, but he is going to be traveling to texas later today to have some high dollar fundraisers, but it's possible we may hear more from him as this goes, as this has been an issue that is going to be a political vulnerability for him as well in november. >> certainly immigration top of mind for a lot of voters right now as we've been seeing with
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much of the exit polling. monica alba, thank you. david noriega thank you as well. paul butler, stick with me as well. appreciate that. in just 60 seconds, folks, new york a.g. letitia james with a strong new message for former president trump. will she go after his properties if he cannot post bond? that's next. e cannot post bond that's next. i told myself i was ok with my moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis symptoms. with my psoriatic arthritis symptoms. but just ok isn't ok. and i was done settling. if you still have symptoms after a tnf blocker like humira or enbrel, rinvoq is different and may help. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that can rapidly relieve joint pain, stiffness, and swelling in ra and psa. relieve fatigue... and stop further joint damage. and in psa, can leave skin clear or almost clear. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal; cancers, including lymphoma and skin;
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appealed. i want to bring in ken dilanian, also back with us paul butler as well. what happens here if month monday comes and goes and he still doesn't have that money, which it's looking like he won't at this point? >> if an appeals court doesn't intervene, james can seek to enforce the judgment starting march 25th, and the attorney general said she will seek to seize some of trump's assets. they could seize his bank accounts or go after mr. trump's golf course, some of his valuable manhattan buildings including trump tower, even mar-a-lago in florida. even though he's been charged in four separate criminal cases, mr. trump's biggest immediate headache right now is this civil case which appears to threaten his financial well-being, yasmin. >> normally, paul, if you cannot secure an appeals bond, you can't appeal, and you also can't normally put up collateral for an appeals bond, but if, in fact, they say, okay, you can
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put up collateral, what is the likelihood, a, they'll do that? and then what? >> well, trump might be willing to put up collateral on some of his properties because he's claiming that he doesn't have the cash on hand, $500 million to put up the bond himself, and it's not surprising that he can't get insurance companies to guarantee the bond for him. he's a credit risk based on his past business practices, but look, yasmin, trump is creating all of this drama. the real difficult legal issue is if he didn't actually have the money to satisfy the judgment. we've seen that with rudy giuliani. he doesn't have the money to pay back ruby moss and shay shay freeman. the remedy is what letitia james is claiming she can secure. she can take leans on this
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property. she's got her eye on his process, 40 wall street. she said she looks at it every day. >> we've heard this phrase tossed around, fire sale. it's something that we had talked about when this judgment had initially come down. i believe the only building that donald trump outright owns, he has a loan on it, $100 million, is trump tower. he's still got to pay back that $100 million if he's able to sell that property, and other properties as well, one of which paul just mentioned. is he looking at the possibility here of a fire sale? >> yeah, so people need to understand, mr. trump's lawyers say he does not have the cash, the liquidity to pay this bond. they say he would have to liquidate some of his real estate at fire sale prices to come up with the money because people would know he's in distress. they say that would cause irreparable injury to the former president. the attorney general responded that the alternative essentially
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would be to stick the state with real estate assets instead of cash to satisfy the bond, and those are hard to sell and of uncertain value. the state doesn't want that. the state wants the cash, yasmin. >> i want to talk about something else that's going on down in fulton county while i have you, paul, and that is this judgment from judge mcafee granting the certificate of immediate review. essentially saying that trump's attorneys, donald trump as well, could appeal his decision allowing fani willis to remain on the case. >> so even though the judge is allowing trump to appeal, the georgia appeals court doesn't have to take the case, and then the defense lawyers could appeal to the georgia supreme court. if the appeals court or the supreme court agrees to take the case, they could expedite the process, but they don't have to, and it could literally take years for courts of appeals to issue a decision. so yasmin, this could result in more of the delay that is
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trump's main strategy in his many court cases, but it's not going to have any short-term impact because the judge is allowing pretrial motions to proceed while the appeal is pending. so this appeal won't have the impact of freezing the case, which is what's going on with the federal january 6th immunity issue in the district of columbia. >> so is this too unlikely to go before the election and any likelihood in this appeal that decision would change and fani willis would be removed? >> unlikely to go, yasmin, is an understatement. it's extremely unlikely that the fulton county case is going to go to trial before the election. again, in all four cases, trump at this point is winning with his strategy of delay, delay, delay. >> ken, let us know if trump tower pops up on realtor.com. >> will do. >> paul butler, thank you as well. all right, today marks the first day of school for
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teenagers in afghanistan, but only for the boys. just take a look at this video from earlier today in kabul. you'll notice there's not a girl in sight. the taliban in charge in afghanistan, they are barring girls above the sixth grade from attending classes, according to the u.n. more than 1 million girls are affected by this ban, and it makes afghanistan the only country in the world with restrictions on female education. okay. coming up, a huge victory for a trump-backed candidate in ohio, now just the latest example of the former president's massive grip on the gop. what voters are saying after this. what voters are saying after this choosing a treatment for your chronic migraine - 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more - can be overwhelming. so, ask your doctor about botox®. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they even start. it's the #1 prescribed branded chronic migraine treatment. so far, more than 5 million botox® treatments have been given to over eight hundred and fifty thousand
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new ways of catching up on their favorite sport. welcome back. donald trump's endorsement power, it's once again on display after a win in ohio. nbc news projecting trump-backed bernie moreno is the winner of the primary in the buckeye state. he beat out two other candidates in all 88 counties receiving more than 50% of the vote, moreno expressing his gratitude to the former president in his victory speech. >> i want to thank president trump for all he did for me, for this campaign, for his unwavering support, for his love of this country. because i don't think i've ever seen somebody who loves this country the way he does. so thank you to president trump.
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>> all right, we got some exit polls from nbc, 73% of ohio republican voters said it is important the next ohio senator shows support for donald trump. nbc's jesse kirsch is reporting for us from cleveland, also with us is founder and ceo of noble predictive insights and former republican congressman david jolly of florida and msnbc political analyst. it looks like the snow has cleared a bit, a little bit more sunny, good for you on that. walk us through how voters are feeling today with this moreno win. >> yeah, yasmin, first let me just say, there's still snow blowing through here, and i don't know that we're fully out of it yet. i don't know how long the sun's going to last. we'll take it while we can get it. that's something people can smile about. what we're looking at now is a situation where as you just pointed out, most primary voters in the republican primary yesterday here in ohio wanted to see support for former president trump from the next senator from
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ohio. that's not universal, and so what bernie moreno now has to do is find a way to bring together the full republican coalition because the lines were very clearly drawn in the sand in the final days of this campaign where you had the trump wing with moreno. he had the likes of kari lake talking about do you want the america first party or the party of people like liz cheney, mitt romney. matt dolan someone who's aligned with the state's governor, mike dewine, a much more traditional if you think about the old school, if you will, traditional establishment republican and the governor endorsed that state senator. so there were those two different wings of the party on display. and as we've seen once again, former president trump is prevailing here with his endorsement. the question now is can moreno bring all the people who were supporting -- and of course that's not necessarily universal for dolan supporters, but at least some dolan supporters tell us that they did not want to see someone who is tied closely with
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former president trump becoming the next senator. here's what we heard from someone on the trail in recent days. >> i would not vote for brian moreno. >> why is that? >> because trump backs him. i can't back any candidate that trump backs, period. >> i think what we have to do now is as a fully united party understand we have one mission, which is to get rid of sherrod brown. >> reporter: that's the message, a call of unity from bernie moreno at his watch party after the projections were coming in showing that he would become the winner. this is not a simple task. we know of course there is divide broadly in politics in this country. while sherrod brown is seen as a vulnerable democrat in an increasingly red state, he has had staying power here in recent years, yasmin, so this is not something that we're expecting to be a slam dunk for either candidate. >> jesse, you look cold, i'm going to let you get inside, my friend. thank you for joining us. appreciate it.
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>> david, i want to talk through some of what we've heard from bernie moreno there. and he said, okay, one of the big things they want to focus on is getting rid of sherrod brown. jesse also talked about how there needs to be unity inside the republican party in ohio and whether or not that's going to happen really is up in question considering what we just heard from that one voter there who said he's never going to vote for bernie moreno because he's backed by donald trump. this is, though, a state, ohio, won by donald trump twice before by about eight points or so. how do you see this? >> yeah, so look, ohio has generally been seen on both sides of the aisle as slipping away from democrats, and in the trump/biden matchup, i think democrats will have to decide how many resources to spend, but this u.s. senate race kind of alters the dynamic. we can now expect a slug fest between a very strong well-liked democratic incumbent in sherrod brown, and moreno who is very much a reflection of trump and trumpism. right there in those comments
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you played, he expressed his fealty to donald trump, which makes him right in line with the very trumpian wing of the party. then so this plays kind of up ticket to this question of those voters who were protest votes against donald trump, who were nikki haley voters, maybe matt dolan voters in ohio yesterday, do all of them really return to the fold if the brand nationally and now in ohio is the very kari lake, trumpian brand of republicanism? look, history has suggested this -- recent history has suggested this is an uphill battle for democrats, but democrats got a bit of a gift in moreno becoming the nominee. >> mike, i want to look at two other states that we have been talking about. we talk a lot about how ohio is critical to determining the control of the upper chamber come november. i know that you've also been polling-wise looking at arizona and nevada as well. walk us through what you're seeing there. >> yeah, it's been pretty interesting with the arizona senate race and the nevada senate race, two key
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battlegrounds as you pointed out, and basically we're seeing that the gop primary right now with kari lake, currently well ahead of her opponent by about 33 points, but also, that you're seeing that ruben gallegos is likely going to be the nominee on the democratic side. we just found out that kristen cinema is now not in the race. it's a two-way matchup. our poll shows ruben gallego at 47%, lake at 37%, which she's about 10 points behind ruben. what's fascinating in that same poll in a generic ballot, so just a generic republican versus general democrat, it's republican plus 4. the state leans to the right, it's the type of republicans coming out. it's going to be a slug fest, but also ruben gallego has the advantage in the contest. and then we look at turnover to nevada, which is pretty interesting is that there's the
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gop primary going on between broup, kind of the more traditional candidate, compared to the maga style candidate. it shows brown up by about 12 points over his opponent, but still about one-third undecided. right now the incumbent, the democrat jacky rosen has a pretty good edge over both those republicans coming out of that race. >> we talk about the likelihoods, the possibilities, what we should be watching, i want to have a big picture conversation, the possibility that donald trump could win re-election in november of 2024, and if, in fact, democrats were to lose control of the upper chamber along with the house where there are a lot of trump-backed candidates as well, his daughter being part of leadership at the republican national ceo, how critical are these down ballot races when you paint that picture? >> these down ballot races are
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everything. and look, the house very well might flip to democrats. frankly, in some analysis there's more likelihood of the house switching to democrat than the senate switching where they currently have it. with a candidate who has promised retribution and flirted with the idea of being a dictator on day one, and very importantly culturally it talks about immigrants poisoning the blood. we know he's praised hitler, and we know the ethos that donald trump presents to the country. this would be a final pivot, i believe, for the country. and in american history, we will not have arrived at a moment like we will face come january 20th. if donald trump wins and is unchecked by the senate. i would suggest it's really not about policy. sure, there will be dangerous hard right conservative policies. republicans will probably obliterate the filibuster on
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legislation, but it will be the executive control that goes unchecked. there will be no idea of a senate and a congress keeping donald trump in check with the threat of impeachment or other oversight mechanisms. we face a dangerous inflection point, and i know we talk about it every day, we're numb to it. it's real, and it's coming in november. >> michael noble and former congressman david jolly, thank you both. appreciate it. still ahead, everybody, former associates of hunter biden peek to the house oversight committee. we're going to get the latest details from that hearing from capitol hill. and former president donald trump makes a big proclamation when it comes to abortion. we're going to explain next. you're watching msnbc. network. (ella) we get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. borks
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. a wild scene on capitol hill today, to say the least, where gop lawmakers in the house, they organized this testimony from a witness who had to call in from behind bars from prison for an inquiry into hunter biden and the president that nbc news reported largely lost its steam weeks ago, even within the republican party. i want to bring in nbc's ryan nobles who's live for us on capitol hill to talk more about this. it has been quite a contentious last couple of hours, ryan. walk us through the highlights here. >> yeah, well, it's very clear, yasmin, that republicans and democrat have a different view about the trajectory of this medical treatment inquiry. what republicans hoped to do today was bring forward a collection of witnesses who would help to corroborate their
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overall claims that the current president, joe biden was directly involved in his son and his brother's business dealings, both foreign and domestic and he used the power of his office to benefit those businesses. what they've been able to elicit from these witnesses, one, tony bobulinski and jason ga len nis is that it was their belief that hunter biden was trading on his father's name, that joe biden was the brand that he was selling. where they've fallen short, though, is providing any direct evidence that joe biden himself was actually involved, even if hunter biden may have been claiming that. listen to one of the exchanges from earlier today. >> what is the crime, sir? specifically. >> you keep -- you asked me to answer the question. i answered the question. you're obviously not familiar with -- corruption. >> excuse me, sir, excuse me, sir. rico is not a crime.
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it is a category. what we are seeing here today is a continuation of the 15-month saga of the republican majority lost in the desert. >> i mean, how low can you get? then it's the republicans' idea that this is the best guy they can get to testify against the president. this is the best guy they can get, a guy sitting in prison who can't even be here. >> it's also important to point out that republicans did invite hunter biden who is of course the key witness in this investigation, kind of the foundation of the republican claims, and even though hunter biden sat for a lengthy closed door deposition with this committee, he declined the invitation to participate despite saying he'd prefer to testify publicly, he said basically he would only testify if the hearing was all encompassing around the topic of influence peddling and someone like jared kushner, donald trump's son-in-law was invited
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to the hearing as well. yasmin, i think the big question a lot of people are going to be left with after this hearing wraps up is what is next in this impeachment inquiry. as you rightly point out, rank and file republicans are starting to question whether or not there is any -- enough evidence, i should say to put on the floor articles of impeachment, or if this committee will take a different direction, do something like send criminal referrals to the department of justice. i think all of that is on the table right now, but there's no real clear path forward for house republicans when it comes to this investigation. >> all right, ryan nobles, thank you, appreciate it. >> so donald trump is now suggesting that he would be open to supporting a 15-week national abortion ban if it contains exceptions in cases of rape, incest, or when the life of the mother is in danger. i want to bring in nbc's garrett haake to talk more about this. we know the republicans have caught on that abortion is going to become a problem for them in this upcoming election, considering how it's fared in
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the midterms and also every time abortion is on the ballot really anywhere. walk us through how it is the former president got to this place. >> yeah, yasmin, not to mention the fact that handling of abortion rights is one of the few areas which democrats consistently poll better than republicans across the country, when you look at it issue by issue. here you have donald trump who's been very careful not to get pinned down with any specific position on abortion for frankly much of his political history he's bounced around between positions suggesting that their duty to be exceptions for things like incest, rape, protecting the life of a mother, and he's tried to hit some of his republican opponents from the right on questions of a national ban suggesting that this is the kind of issue he could negotiate in some way across the country. but he came a little bit closer to landing on a specific position yesterday, perhaps as something of a trial balloon. here's what he said in a radio interview yesterday when asked about this idea of a national 15-week ban. >> the number of weeks now
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people are agreeing on 15 and i'm thinking in terms of that, and it will come out to something that's very reasonable. but people are really -- even hard-liners are agreeing seems to be 15 weeks seems to be a number people are agreeing on. >> it's always a bit of a question who the people donald trump su referring to when he talks hypothetically about an issue like this. we do know that lindsey graham who's a long-time trump ally has put forward basically in every congress the idea of a 15-week national abortion ban suggesting that that's in line with what the rest of the world does, and it's the kind of thing that could get majority support. obviously those bans have gone nowhere in the united states senate. here you have donald trump touching what could be the new third rail in politics by putting forward a policy like this. ky the biden campaign is responding to this suggesting this is something donald trump has done, will do, and needs to be organized against. yasmin. >> glad you wonder the same thing, garrett, as i do about the people and who are the
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all right, another former rankin sheriff's deputy self-described member of the goon squad, he admitted to subjecting two black men, michael corey jenkins and eddie parker to racially motivated torture in 2023. it's coming after the 46-year-old leader of the so-called goon squad jeffrey middleton got a 17.5 year prison sentence yesterday afternoon and a fourth officer set to be sentenced in the next couple of hours. nbc's antonia hylton is following this story for us and is joining on set. this story is so incredibly troubling. walk me through kind of the sentencing that we have been seeing so far. . >> well, we're about halfway through, and so far what we're seeing is about 17 to 20 years behind bars for these guys. and you know, horror, disgusting, these words, they l are struggle to capture the reality of this case here.
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these officers entered a home without a warrant and proceeded to torture these two men for hours, using everything from food and weapons to a sex toy at one point. one of the victims was shot in the mouth. and so, you know, as you can understand, being in the courtroom. the court has been packed. it's incredibly emotional on all sides. today, daniel updike was crying, weeping in the courtroom as he tried to apologize. michael jenkins who was shot in the mouth by another officer, walked out in the middle of him talking. the community is reeling from all of this. take a listen to one of the lawyers describing what they feel this all represents. >> this is a message to all racist police officers in every department in mississippi and throughout the united states of america that beware, that justice will be coming your way. if you continue to brutalize and terrorize black people, you will
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spend many years behind bars. >> and, you know, yasmin, i don't think this is the end of the story for two reasons. the first is that the local d.a. is going to have to look at all the cases connected to this goon squad and potentially other people are going to get out, have things removed from their records attached to all of that. the other piece here is the historical trauma attached to all of this, the history of a place like mississippi. and the reality that the community is going to be asking the local sheriff and all law enforcement agencies what did they know. if they were known as the goon squad, that was their nickname, their reputation, who else knew about their operations. what other parts of the department or other local teams were engaged in similar behaviors. i think there's more. >> and who can they trust really at this point with this going on or having gone on. antonia hylton, thank you, appreciate it. let's switch gears. today boeing is responding to faa chief michael whitaker's
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interview with my colleague, lester holt. >> there are issues around the safety culture at boeing. their priorities have been on production and not on safety and quality. and so what we really are focused on now is shifting that focus from production to safety and quality. >> i want to bring in nbc senior correspondent tom costello to talk more about this. walk us through this. obviously a lot of reaction out there. >> yeah, this was a very candid, frank comment from the head of the faa saying, essentially, boeing, despite the fact that we have had two months since the door plug blow out over portland, boeing's emphasis is not on safety. in his conversations, the first thing that comes up is production, not safety, which he found really surprising, given the fact that he's the faa chief visiting boeing's production plants. a pretty strong comment. here's what boeing is saying in response today. boeing says, we are taking significant action to strengthen
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safety and quality at boeing. we are focused on demonstrating change and building trust one airplane at a time. but make no mistake about it, boeing knows it's got a very big challenge. it needs to change the culture, right? if this has been going on for a good long time, and if you talk to a lot of analysts, they believe boeing's problems with the cultural breakdown may go back decades, the executive suite needs to translate all the way down to the assembly line, to the individuals who actually are screwing in the bolts. and that's a big challenge because that is precisely where the breakdown apparently occurred on the max 9 with a door plug that blew out, a breakdown on the assembly line. and so the faa chief suggesting he was surprised that when he visited boeing, they're still talking about production, not safety. he did also say, and i think we need to stress this, mike whitaker, the faa chief says he does believe the planes coming
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off the boeing assembly line today are safe. but the faa also has 20 inspectors on the ground there. >> tom costello, thank you. >> you bet. i want to get a new look at this year's u.n. world happiness report, which shows a united states of america is increasingly unhappy. the u.s. falling out of the top 20 of happiest countries for the first time in the report's 12-year history. i'm sorry to break it to you, guys, now coming in at number 23, an eight spot drop just from last year. finland, by the way, was number one. the united nations group behind the report says the unhappiness of americans younger than 30 population was a major part of the change. now we have to figure out how to get happy. any minute now, highly anticipated news from the federal reserve with big implications for your bank account. will interest rates stay as is? that's coming up with my friend katy tur after this.
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