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that benjamin netanyahu has now gone too far. ultimately, last week, schumer did not go as far as to call for netanyahu to step down. instead he called for israel to hold new elections and explained why he thinks the israeli people should vote netanyahu out. yesterday, president biden called prime minister netanyahu to warn him against invading rafah but today, netanyahu announced that he plans to invade anyway. he does not think biden or schumer should be telling israel what to do. for decades, the u.s. policy of unconditionally backing israel has been pretty much set in stone, but if netanyahu can lose chuck schumer, i don't know if that is the case anymore and if netanyahu really does decide to pull the trigger on a ground invasion that would undoubtedly kill countless defenseless civilians in rafah we might just be seeing the start of a new era of israeli- american relations. that is our show tonight. it is time now for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. i think you have a big guest lined up. >> we do. we have the winner of the
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democratic senate primary in ohio, and that, of course, is senator sherrod brown. andrew weissmann will be joining us this evening with more defending trunk new -- news including this astonishingly insane appeal to the united states supreme court that we are going to get to during this hour. >> you have a great show, my friend. >> thank you. tonight, nbc news is projecting that once again, joe biden will win a much larger percentage of the vote in the democratic presidential primary in ohio then donald trump will win in the republican presidential primary in ohio. joe biden currently has 87% of the vote. donald trump currently has 79% of the vote, and nbc news projects that the republican nominee for senate in the state of ohio will be the trump- endorsed candidate, bernie moreno. bernie moreno is running for
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the senate seat, held for the last 17 years by senator sherrod brown, who won his primary tonight with 100% of the vote. bernie moreno got 49.7% of the vote in a primary against a more moderate nikki haley style candidate. dolan has 33% of the vote. if the trump republicans win the senate seat in ohio then they will almost certainly take control of the united states senate with a republican majority leader and with republican chairman and every senate committee. that would mean that president biden would be unable to confirm a single federal judge in a biden second term, or it would mean that trump-nominated judges would speed through the senate into the federal courts, where they would continue to specialize in taking rights away from americans, as the trump judges have already done. the stakes could not be higher in the presidential campaign
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and the stakes could not be higher in a senate campaign in ohio this year. martin sheen, whose acting career has included so many brilliant performances beginning with films such as badlands with sissy spacek, and apocalypse now with marlon brando, and continuing into the 21st century in his television portrayal of the president of the united states in the nbc series, the west wing. martin sheen was born in dayton, ohio, and was at least once that i am aware of, approached by the democratic party to run for democratic office in ohio. martin sheen was flattered, but he also believed that there were better people to serve in government, which is why he endorsed sherrod brown for senate, and recorded this out for the brown senate campaign released today. >> the dignity of work is the idea that hard work should pay
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off for everyone, no matter who you are, where you live, or what kind of work you do. whether you swipe a badge or punch a clock, whether you work for tips, or earn a salary, whether you are caring for an aging parent or raising children , your work has dignity. >> this fight is about whose side you are on. i will always be on the side of ohioans. i spent my entire career fighting for the dignity of work. i won't stop now. join our campaign today. >> joining us now is democratic senator sherrod brown of ohio. he is the chair of the senate banking committee and is running for re-election to the united states senate. senator, 100% of the vote sounds pretty good to me in the democratic senate primary. >> there were not a lot of
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people running, but i think my career in terms of fighting for workers in taking on special interest is why nobody challenged me in the primary but i did not really expect to talk about 100% of the vote, but thank you very much, lawrence. >> you have a son of ohio, martin sheen, who does not easily step forward in these situations. tell us about how that ad came together with martin sheen? >> martin and i and janet and connie and my wife have known each other now for more than a decade. i love to tell the story. martin has been campaigning a half-dozen times for me and i love to tell the story. martin sheen's first job was as a caddie at the dayton country club and he was fired for trying to organize a union so that is who martin sheen is. the dignity of work absolutely
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fits him and he has fought the same special interest we do. he's always devoted his life to justice and one of my favorite moments campaigning is when martin spent two days with us, the second day back in 2012, we ended up in john glenn's apartment for a fundraiser and all day martin was talking about, i can't believe i'm going to get to see john glen echo to his apartment and john glenn had told me two days earlier, i can't believe martin sheen is coming to my place, so two heroes as far as i'm concerned, in very different ways but both of them just terrific human beings who fight for justice and fought for people who don't always get a break in life. >> you know, i begin this segment tonight thinking i was going to learn a new biographical fact about martin sheen and his first organizing experience at the country club. that is a great one. as you go forward in this campaign, it looks like you now know who you will be running against, bernie moreno. what do ohio voters need to know so that they know what is at stake in this election between these two candidates for senate? >> they know that bernie moreno always looks out for himself. he has said in this campaign that he won't work with democrats. he just is going to go to washington and do his own thing.
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he has illustrated that by again calling for a national abortion been with no exceptions even though ohio, overwhelmingly last november, voted by 13 points for a constitutional amendment on abortion rights and the arrogance of not really caring what the voters want. that is really who he is, and we will make that contrast of life fight for ohio. i listen to people. i do roundtables all over the state. that is how we helped senator chester write the packed act. that's how we got a good infrastructure bill. that is how we get the chips bill that's going to create thousands of jobs in ohio. that is how you do this job. you listen to people, you come back with ideas and convince your colleagues to pass the child tax credit. you convince your colleagues on a host of issues like the pension bill, where we save the
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pension of 100,000 ohio union workers so that is how you do this job. you don't approach it arrogantly and i know best, i don't care that women have said that they want control with their doctors of their own healthcare. i know better and i'm going to override that, overturn that and that is really why this election -- as you know, we've talked on the show. you've devoted your show to this in many ways. it is whom you fight for and who is on your side and that is really why i win in ohio and why we are going to see a good year around the country. >> there were indications that the democratic party certainly and i'm not so sure about you, but the democratic party definitely wanted bernie moreno as your opponent because they believe the more extreme the republican is, the better it is for you and would have been more of a challenge for you running against the more moderate republican. what is your assessment of what it's going to take in running against moreno? >> i didn't weigh in on that.
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i didn't even know that was going to happen until it did happen but you know, it goes back. first of all, i'm going to have a tough race. they're going to have tens of millions of dollars. moreno is a rich guy who inherited a lot of wealth and he's going to be spending it in this race as he did in the primary but it always comes down to two sites and that's why i ask people to come to sherrod brown.com. we will be outspent, but we will be more organized. we will have more grassroots contributors and that is how i've won elections in the past. i don't see politics left or right. i see it as whose side are you on and that means taking on the drug companies and pending account -- a cap on insulin at $35 and putting a cap of $2000 for seniors. and putting a cap on the tiled -- child tax credit. i dropped the child poverty rate by 40%. i learn those things by listening to people, the mother-
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in-law of keith robinson, who the bill is named after, listening to his mother talk about what happened to him when he returned to service after exposure to those burn pits. that is how you legislate. my opponent thinks you legislate by just doing what you think you should do and i don't think people trust that. they don't trust him on abortion. they don't trust him on ethics. they don't trust them on fighting on taking on interest groups. >> the democratic senate campaign committee weighed in against your republican opponent tonight just about a minute after the race was called for bernie rayno, who will now be the republican nominee running against you for senate. let's look at the ad they put up tonight. >> meet bernie moreno. even republicans don't trust him. >> this is why this man can't be trusted. >> brady would overrule ohio voters to pass the national abortion ban.
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he said he doesn't think that the minimum wage should exist. >> at the end of the day, the markets will flush that out. >> he will appeal the affordable care act. the bill to secure the border and keep fentanyl out of our communities, he called it >> complete garbage. >> he was sued by employees because he did not pay them overtime they had earned and destroyed evidence to get out of it. >> you shredded those documents to help bernie rayno, not the employee is. this is a matter of trust. republicans don't trust bernie rayno. why should you? >> so, this is the donald trump chosen candidate to run in ohio. donald trump has been on a winning streak in ohio himself, so it seems to me that this candidate is going to have a lot of support for donald trump you have support from the democratic committee.
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>> i'm going to run my own race. i'm not appended about who's going to vote how. i know when i focus on taking on interest groups, when i focus on what we have done to fight back against what norfolk southern did to a lot of people in my state with that train derailment, what drug companies have done -- my wife and i almost every sunday after church go to a grocery store in the neighborhood and i see people all the time paying more for their groceries because of stock buybacks and bonuses executives get so people know, regardless of any of those punditry comments, people knowing when to stand up and take on interest groups as i have done before.
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you don't just go to country clubs and wall street. you show up at roundtables and listen to people. the best ideas come from people in my state. i've met with a number of farmers this past week, soybean farmers, and we talked about what we can do with soybeans and may actually be turning it into jet fuel and i would not have thought of that but these farmers did and we've seen science that it can happen and there are all kinds of opportunities of you open your ears and listen. you can make a big difference in this job and i don't think my opponent understands that. i do. that is why i've been successful every day working for ohio and why have been successful in elections in the past. >> senator sherrod brown, thank you very much for teaching me something i did not know and for joining us tonight on this important election night in ohio. coming up, donald trump is finally admitting, in his way,
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it was a very rough day for donald trump's voters. today, donald trump told his followers, who believe he is the smartest person in the world, and used to believe that he was the richest person in the world, that he is in tragic financial circumstances because of the $454 million civil judgment against him for business fraud in new york state paid because, in order to appeal that judgment, donald trump said quote, i would be forced to mortgage or sell great assets, perhaps at fire sale prices, and if and when i win the appeal, they would be gone. does that make sense? trump voters now have to ask themselves, how can the
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smartest man in the world be so stupid to allow this to happen? but, trump voters will probably never ask themselves that question because they are the same people who have sent hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions to donald trump over the years after he promised them that he would never ask for a campaign contribution from anyone because he is so rich. without those campaign contributions, donald trump would not be able to afford his teams of criminal defense lawyers and trump voters should be asking themselves tonight, how did the smartest man in the world allow one of his white help -- white house staff, peter navarro, to go to prison today for refusing to comply with the subpoena? why did the smartest man in the world hire someone stupid enough to do that? peter navarro gave an angry
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press conference of sorts outside of the florida federal prison that became his new home address today. peter navarro said he was that of course is probably true but it would've been more accurate to say he was stupid. everything else peter navarro said that you are not hearing right now was a light which is why you are not hearing it. donald trump was the guy who promised his supporters he would hire the best people, the very best people in his administration, and no one has criticized the people whom donald trump hired more than donald trump, who has attacked everyone of those best people who are now saying donald trump is unfit to be president, because they saw him up close when he was president. one measure of how good you are at hiring is how many of the people you hire go to prison. the correct answer is supposed to be zero.
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but in donald trump's business, his longtime chief financial officer has already served time and is now accused of other crimes. michael cohen has served time in peter navarro is the first trump administration official to go to prison with steve bannon on track to be the second once his appeal is exhausted, for the same crime peter navarro committee, defying a subpoena. in georgia, trumps last white house chief of staff, mark meadows and jeffrey clark could be on their way to prison at the end of that case, as could donald trump's legal team including rudolph giuliani who illegally try to overturn the presidential election. joining us now is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel. he is the co-author of the new best-selling book, "the trump indictments," in tim o'brien is with us, the senior executive editor of bloomberg opinion and author of trump nation.
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he is host of the bloomberg podcast, "crash course." enter, what happens now? donald trump can go forward with his appeal but his assets will be protected from the bond which means the attorney general could presumably start closing in on some of those assets. >> absolutely. he is allowed to appeal and that has nothing to do with his bond. >> is claiming to his followers, they won't let me appeal unless i put up the half billion dollars to appeal. that's a lie. you can appeal. anyone can appeal. >> yes, that is a lie. this has to do with the judgment and whether it can be enforced. to be clear, the judgment is test technically enforceable now, but the attorney general in new york has given, which is fairly common, a 30 day grace period to him to basically other put up the money or put up the bond, and so that 30 days ends on monday. i should point out that donald
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trump's social post makes zero sense because he can get a mortgage on his real estate if it is not leveraged already. in other words, there is nothing -- if he has $454 million in equity in any of his real estate assets, he can do what lots of people in this country do with much smaller real estate, which is just get a mortgage. that property is not sold. he can just get a mortgage and do that. apparently, he does not have that ability because all of his assets, or at least there is not enough assets that are not leveraged. so, what can the attorney general do? starting on monday, she can issue liens on any and all property, whether it is real estate, bank accounts, cash, cash equivalents. that freezes the account and she can do court action to essentially transfer that to her, so all of the unencumbered assets can be transferred to the state of new york. third, if she can find everything, she can take depositions up to and including
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donald trump-defined any and all assets and do the same. on any and all money donald trump receives, she can attach that to satisfy the $454 million so if he does either not get that amount lowered by the court, or figure out a way to post a bond, that is what we are going to start to see happening on monday. >> to o'brien, to under oath depositions on donald trump, how much of that building does he actually own, he sued you when you said he is not as rich as he claims to be, you won that lawsuit. when the attorney general goes in here eventually to start looking at these assets, is she going to find that this building actually has several mortgages on it already, and that's why you can't get an additional mortgage on it even though there might be $25
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million in equity left in it? you can't get to it because there is too much encumbrance on all these properties already? >> right. the term in the financial world is leverage and donald trump is always loved leveraging everything he owns to take on more debt so he can buy more things, because he is wildly undisciplined financially and strategically. a year ago, he said in a deposition that he had $400 million in cash, and he was adding significant amounts to that total every month because his business was so robust and the cash was just flowing through his coffers. he is now saying he does not have that money at hand, and there are only three reasons that explain that. either the cash is not there
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and never was, he burned through it over the last year, or simply does not want to put up his own money. there is no other explanation for why that 400 million he claimed to have disappeared and he is now in this -- i don't think he could've ever anticipated when he was trying to embarrass judge a karen and letitia james and the entire judicial process against him, that he would wind up in a position where these financial dominoes are starting to tumble because on monday when letitia james starts to attach assets, something extraordinary doesn't happen between now and next morning which could mean an outside party giving him money or someone deciding to post a bond on his behalf, if neither of those situations look likely, you are going for the first time, to get a look behind the kimono at trumps financial holdings, and he has never been public about -- been
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honest publicly about the amount of debt he holds against those properties. you're going to get a look at that. you're going to get a real sense of what the valuations are, and when donald trump begin campaigning in 2016, he put out and press statements that he was worth 8 billion and then 10 billion. an area's times he said 6 billion. more recently, my colleagues at bloomberg news has said he's worth about 3 billion. that is all on paper and that number can start to decline very quickly if you don't have cash or other liquid assets and you've got a lot of debt pledged against it. it is the worst experience he wants to have in the world, there has been the sort of guessing game around trumps wealth, as you noted. you know, he sued me for three pages of a very long book that essentially hung him up on this idea that he had been playing the media and his bankers for decades about how much money he has. now, that becomes a public thing, a public event any has to be feeling right now like a cornered animal, and it has to
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be his worst nightmare financially. >> andrew, that cornered animal feel was absolutely there in his panic social media comments today. a couple of things going on here. one is donald trump's complete inability to anticipate consequences. until there upon him. it was clear to us months ago that this was roughly the number for this case is going to end up and yes, there is real civil liability there, but you get the feeling that donald trump's lawyers never impressed upon him. he never really believed it could come to this, and now that it has come to this, the next stage could be donald trump under oath about his assets, and one of the options tim just laid out about donald trump's claim, under oath, about having $4 billion in cash -- one of the options, that was perjury. that was just a lie, so here we
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go again. donald, you are under oath. how much of this building do you own? at that point they will be also be subpoenaing documentation that shows the pickle -- building is mortgage seven different ways. >> this is going to be a situation where the emperor has no clothes. it's going to be something where we see it. just sort of the way donald trump approaches the world is as you said. he is not a chess player. he is not thinking down the road, how do i get from here to there, several stages down. that is a skill set you actually would like to have with presidents of the united states, or the ceo of a major company. he is very much focused on just the here and now, and thinking everyone is like a giant etch-a- sketch and they are not going to remember what happens from day today so if i like today that's fine because i'm just going to move on to the next thing tomorrow.
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>> and tim, what about this anticipation of consequences? this is what donald trump fails at miserably. he failed at it in the casino business. he failed at it in pretty much every business you examined when you are first writing about him. he just could not anticipate consequences before they landed on him in a bad way. >> because he has been protected from the consequences of his own actions his entire life. his father's wealth insulated him from his business mistakes and poor academic performance. he was insulated by the power of celebrity through the fame he garnered on the apprentice and then of course he's been insulated from the consequences of the law thus far and away most americans are not, so he has never had to grow up. donald trump is essentially a seven-year-old, grown old, and that is exactly why he can't play three-dimensional chess or even play checkers. he played hopscotch and constantly falls off the course
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because he is unsophisticated and he is self absorbed and he doesn't see consequences when they are rushing at him because he thinks he can get around them i think one of the things we are seeing now in this litigation is this myth that donald trump has always been able to evade the long arm of the law and i think that has been this sort of mythic same, -- think, and it is simply because he has never had a formidable array of prosecutors who are determined to try to expose him before, and some of that could still run aground. we are seeing some of that in motion right now, but at least in this case, he is being held to account financially in a way he never has before, and it is a ruthless and long-overdue comeuppance. >> thank you very much for joining us with your expertise about the trump businesses. andrew weissmann is going to stick with us. up next, donald trump's lawyers filed a brief with the
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today, donald trump's criminal defense lawyers filed an appeals brief with the united states supreme court asking them to establish a new constitutional principle that is not even hinted at in the constitution and which no president before donald trump thought was constitutional or asked the supreme court to make it constitutional. donald trump is asking the supreme court for full criminal immunity for everything. everything he did well president of the united states and after he was president of the united states. it begins with this lie. the denial of criminal immunity would incapacitate every future president with de facto blackmail and extortion while in office, and condemn him to years of post office trauma at the hands of political opponents. the trump brief does not explain why that has never
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happened in the entire 235 year history of the american presidency. when no one in the presidency or in the american criminal justice system ever believed that a former president could not be prosecuted for crimes. everyone in the criminal justice system, and in the country believed that richard nixon could be prosecuted for crimes that he committed while he was president, and president gerald ford, who took office after nixon resigned, was absolutely certain that the justice department would definitely prosecute richard nixon for crimes committed while nixon was president, which is why president ford pardoned richard nixon in 1974. in the eight presidents from nixon to trump, every one of them was always 100% certain
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that they could be prosecuted for crimes committed in office, just as richard nixon was going to be prosecuted before he was pardoned. not one of those presidents was inhibited in any way in office in doing their duty by fear of being prosecuted. the history of the american presidency and the american criminal justice system, especially the post nixon history, proves beyond a reasonable doubt that this statement in the trump brief is a lie. the threat of future prosecution and imprisonment will become a clinical cudgel to influence the most sensitive and controversial presidential decisions, taking away the strength, authority and decisiveness of the presidency. in an earlier brief to the supreme court arguing there was
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no reason for the supreme court to donald trump's appeal, special prosecutor jack smith said the criminal immunity the former president is asking the supreme court to write into constitutional law quote, would upend understandings of presidential accountability that have prevailed throughout history while undermining democracy and the rule of law, particularly where, as here, a former president is alleged to have committed crimes to remain in office despite losing an election, thereby seeking to subvert constitutional procedures for current transferring power and to disenfranchise millions of voters. andrew weissmann is back with us and andrew, it is a reasonably sized brief to a supreme court appeal. we have 50 pages in here. did you find anything that is worthy of supreme court consideration in this argument? >> no, but to add to your litany of presidents since
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nixon, it is worth noting that you can add donald trump himself because during the second impeachment, his argument as to why he should not be impeached, successfully convicted in the senate, was because he could always be criminally prosecuted later, that there should not be this rush to decide things now. he is about to leave office but there is always the criminal justice system so you can add him to that litany. there are two things i thought were quite interesting in this brief. one, i think you will really like, because i was sitting here with you when you are pointing out that brett kavanaugh, before it was on the supreme court, wrote an article where he said that current presidents should enjoy
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criminal immunity. you have to wait until they're out of office and former presidents can be prosecuted. so you might be thinking well, that doesn't help donald trump in this position because he is being prosecuted as a former president. that brett kavanaugh article is cited in this brief, and it is incorrectly cited for the proposition that former presidents cannot be charged. this is a point that my colleague at nyu, ryan goodman, pointed out when he looked at this and fell off his chair and he was like -- that is such a huge stumble. if you are going to cite a sitting justice, you might want to get that right. >> i mean, you can spend a lifetime reading these and never find a supreme court justice quoted, cited incorrectly in a brief submitted to the supreme court. i mean, this is a level of incompetence that i've never seen before, and that of course, donald trump is incapable of even realizing. >> second point in the brief, to add to your litany of things that are incorrect, whether intentionally or not, is the
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statement that all of donald trump's actions with respect to january 6th and leading up to it was because he, then president, was aware of, and i'm just going to paraphrase, the substantial amount of evidence, that there was fraud in the election. the site to that is to members of congress and his sitting vice president, so neither of those are citations to actual facts, and there will be a reason for that, which is that 60 judges who heard this said there was no fraud that would change the outcome of the election. it is remarkable and the introduction of a brief in the supreme court to have that statement sitting there that he somehow has this undisclosed evidence which he still is representing to the supreme court of the united states, but has never represented to the american public.
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>> so, the next filing on this will be jack smith's reply to this, and the smith filings are the exact opposite in this, just flawless all the way through. we will be waiting to see what he has to say about this. andrew weissmann, thank you very much for joining us tonight. up next, president biden is campaigning in the southwest this week and making direct appeals to latino voters and campaign ads using the biden harris campaigns huge fundraising advantage over the trump campaign to pay for early advertising. simon rosenberg will join us next.
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today, president joe biden kicked often a three-day campaign swing through arizona and texas. univision radio, which offers for spanish-speaking audiences. >> here's the thing i want to stop. trump, this saturday called and said they're not people. he said immigrants are poisoning the blood of this country. he separated children from parents at the border, caged the kids, planned mass deportations systems, tens of thousands. you want us to end deportation? iz mean, we have to stop this guy. we can't let this happen. we are a nation of immigrants. >> the biden-harris campaign released this new ad, as part of their $30 million ad campaign in battleground states with the reminder for spanish speakers about what joe biden
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than donald trump did his primary. full trump-supported opponent who is as trumpy as donald trump. what is your perspective on this race. >> i think the most important thing, as you mentioned, is that the biden campaign is turning on. we're starting to spend the cash over donald trump. starting to get deeper now into the election. the president and vice president. and there's some evidence. i don't want to jump the gun a little bit. starting to see things shift in his favor. there are five polls that have biden ahead now. and in the economist tracking poll. the economist averages that tracks all the polls. he's actually up by one point now. joe biden is president. and trump is an unprecedented
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dumpster fire, as you have been talking about on this show. >> so we're returning the ads that the biden campaign is doing because they can afford them. and the trump campaign cannot. stunning numbers about trump fundraising. in 2023, last year, the year before the election year, the trump campaign raised 62.5% less money from the small dollar donors. and those are huge funders in the aggregate of past trump campaigns. >> yeah. look. i mean, trump is in trouble right now. i think the "trump is strong" bubble is bursting in front of our eyes. as we have discussed here, he's been underperforming in virtually every state. and struggling in these primaries, much more than biden
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did in his. they're struggling mightily, with high-dollar donors and small-dollar donors. we're going to see one of the worst years financial reports from president trump. republicans are fleeting the house and retiring in unprecedented numbers. there's a revolt. we have news that haley's fundraisers have shifted over to biden. this is the ugliest thing we've seen. the idea that trump is somehow strong. he's not. he's weak. he's a dumpster fire. he's not a juggernaut. and i think the media is beginning to wake up to the fact that biden has come out of the state of the union strong, with huge wind at his back. and trump is struggling in unprecedented ways as we head into the general. >> the ""new york times "is
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