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commenting on her post saying thank you for fighting so hard to be here for us, we adore you. back to you. >> stephanie, thank you. ladies, get those checkups. that's going do it for us today. thanks so much for joining us. see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. it's friday. almost, we're so close. don't forget you can catch our show online around the clock on youtube and other platforms. for now, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning, it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin this very busy hour with breaking news from here in florida, where right now former president trump is in a federal courtroom as his legal team tries to get the classified documents case against him thrown out. the hearing is taking place in fort pierce, 120 miles north of
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miami. this case contains 40 of the 88 felony counts against trump including willful retention of national defense information and conspiracy to obstruct justice. he's pleaded not guilty. the former president defended his actions last night during an interview with newsmax. >> i took them very legally and i wasn't hiding them. we had boxes on the front of -- a lot of those boxes had clothing and -- we're moving out, unfortunately, we're moving out of the white house. >> with us to talk more about this, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian outside the courthouse in fort pierce, chuck rosenberg, former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official, and rebecca roife, former manhattan district attorney. what has been happening so far at the hearing where you're at? >> reporter: good morning, jose. our colleagues inside the courtroom tell us that arguments are under way before judge aileen cannon.
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she's hearing two of mr. trump's seven motions to dismiss this case today. and she began by asking them to argue -- to make their arguments on the contention that the law at issue here, the espionage act, an issue for most of these counts, is unconstitutionally vague. that's their contention, it didn't put donald trump on notice that he wasn't allowed to take classified documents home, and so therefore this case should be thrown out. as our legal experts will tell you, the espionage act is a 1917 law that has been used for years to prosecute people who improperly handle classified materials, who took it home, who disseminated it. most recently jack teixeira, the massachusetts airman who pleaded guilty under that law, to taking home classified documents and leaking them. this challenge has been tried before and failed. and nonetheless mr. trump is trying here again. the other argument he's going to make today is that the presidential records act, the civil law governing the retention of presidential records, should moot this prosecute, essentially, because what they argue is that all the documents that mr. trump deemed
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were personal and took home were his to take. and that therefore they cannot be -- he cannot be prosecuted for taking classified documents. special counsel jack smith said both of these arguments are absurd and in particular the presidential record act has nothing to do with the criminal laws governing classified information. once mr. trump left office, he wasn't entitled to keep these documents, let alone in an insecure location at mar-a-lago and let alone to allegedly obstruct justice and order compatriots to destroy evidence. so, most experts don't think these arguments have much of a chance. judge aileen cannon has devoted the entire day to hearing them. we will await her ruling in these matters. >> rebecca, what do you make of the motions at the center of today's hearing? >> i think the most important of his motions is the one that has to do with the presidential records act. and i think that's true for three reasons. first of all, it is just so bold.
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the idea that a former president could take boxes and boxes of classified documents legally and just do whatever he wants with them is an extreme argument. and secondly, and relatedly, it also has a lot of political implications. for him, it allows him to claim he did nothing wrong, his favorite thing always. rather than just say this was a mistake, or i didn't intend this, he says what i did was absolutely right. and for the other, you know, for democrats who are challenging his campaign, this is one of his claims, in which he is suggesting he is indeed above the law. and finally, i think it is important because there are implications for the immunity question, which the judge will decide later on and that is whether she should stay the case. because part of his claim here is that when he was president, he made these documents personal. and that would at least support a claim if the judge agrees with him that perhaps on some outer perimeter this was part of his official acts and therefore he deserved immunity. >> chuck, how unusual is it to
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have a hearing on these types of motions. everything regarding this case is unusual, but this type of motion, how unusual is it? >> yeah, so, first off, jose, you're right, everything about this case has been unusual, but let's talk about the more typical case. atypical case. there is absolutely no reason why a judge, a good experienced thoughtful federal judge anywhere in the country would have to hold a hearing, let alone a day long hearing, to consider two relatively easy motions. in my practice as a federal prosecutor in the eastern district of virginia, i imagine every judge sitting there would have disposed of these motions on the papers quickly and without a hearing. and by the way, if that sounds luke a criticism of judge cannon, let me explain that a little bit. she is a relatively new federal judge, i imagine she hasn't had much experience with the presidential records act or the classified information procedures act, and certainly not with the claims by a former
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president that he's entitled to absolute immunity. we are all better in our tenth year or 20th year, jose, than we are in our first year or in our second year, regardless of what it is that we do. i don't mean to suggest judge cannon is biassed in favor of mr. trump. i do mean to suggest that i don't think she's very good at her job just yet and that she has a lot to learn and that a better judge would have handled this quickly and efficiently. >> and, chuck, so, part of the trump argument is around the presidential records act, because, you know, he says he was allowed to designate white house records as personal. what exactly does that law say and remembering that that law was created post nixon, during the nixon era. >> right. so, at the highest level, jose, records that are generated because you're the president or around your presidency or to support your term as president do not belong to you, they
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belong to the american people and the national archives is the designated caretaker. but beyond that i think rebecca is exactly right. this is -- this is an important argument. i don't know that necessarily it is a winning argument for mr. trump, i think it is a losing argument, but at the very least, jose, classified information can't be personal. under any circumstance. if it is classified, it belongs to the united states government, regardless of the presidential records act. and the notion that mr. trump can take classified information home, let alone store it in an insecure manner, and designate it as personal property is absurd. on its face, period, the end. >> rebecca, what could the outcome of today's hearing mean for trump's co-defendants, who are there today as well? >> yes, there are a lot of implications that would matter for them as well. i mean, you know, in terms of
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the fact that he is talking precisely about whether or not he is entitled to do it, and these other co-defendants were charged with helping him engage in this activity, if he wins on this claim, which i agree with chuck, it is extremely unlikely he will, but if he does, well, then, they're helping him do something essentially i suppose legal. and then there will be implications for them as well. >> so, ken, you were talking about when the judge could rule today. is there any sense of when we could get a decision on these motions or the other ones trump filed in this case? >> reporter: she doesn't really have a history of ruling from the bench on these kinds of matters. so we expect she'll take us under advisement and issue a written ruling at a later time. to chuck's point, holding a day long hearing today, which suggests she'll hold other day long hearings on the other motions to dismiss, all of this delays the eventual day that this case will go to trial. and it is really in question
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whether this case gets to trial before the november election. >> ken dilanian, chuck rosenberg, thank you very much. up next, could a former treasury secretary save tiktok here in the u.s.? we have new developments about what is being done to keep americans on the app. plus, we're live in the dominican republic, on the border with haiti, where haitians are trying to flee the violence in that country. and later, what vice president harris is set to do today that is believed to be a first for any american president or vice president. we're back in 60 seconds. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. os yoreu' watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. the seat is leather. alan, we get it. you love your bike. we do, too. that's why we're america's number-one motorcycle insurer. but do you have to wedge it into everything? what? i don't do that. this reminds me of my bike. the wolf was about the size of my new motorcycle. have you seen it, by the way? happy birthday, grandma! really?
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company or be removed from u.s. devices within six months. it comes as nbc news data shows over 1 in 5 voters use tiktok every day and under 35 that number is over 4 in 10. joining us now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent julie tsirkin and cnbc senior markets correspondent dominic chu. julie, what does the path forward look like for this bill? >> reporter: that is an excellent question. especially because senate majority leader schumer sounded very tepid when the house passed this bill overwhelmingly yesterday. he said that they will evaluate the bill, he will talk to his committee chairs, and see what they think about it. i should note, though, one of the committee chairs that is relevant to this is senator maria cantwell. there are some reports including our own nbc reporting that notes one of her former staffers now works for tiktok as a lobbyist. so there is a lot of pressure not only on democratic side, but also the republican side, and this is also an issue, jose that
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seems to translate -- transcend party lines rather and more so has to do with the age of lawmakers. younger progressives rallying with tiktok influencers, with creators, saying that this should not be a ban on the app. although they are concerned about some national security risks here. so the long and short of it, jose, is that the senate process is not going to be anywhere as fast as the house was. >> and, dom, cnbc reporting former treasury secretary mnuchin is putting together a group to buy tiktok? >> that's right. the former treasury secretary and the trump administration made the statement for the record on cnbc earlier this morning. mnuchin said he thinks the legislation should pass and that tiktok should be sold off from chinese parent company bytedance, adding it is a great business, and he is putting together an investor group to try to buy the platform. now, he's making the case for the hypothetical takeover on the grounds that there is a fairness element here as well. telling cnbc, quote, this should be owned by u.s. businesses.
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there's no way that the chinese would ever let a u.s. company own something like this in china. now, the mechanics of any potential deal are still unclear, pretty murky. it is not like tiktok or parent company bytedance are going to be very forward or transparent or even engaged at all with any group that it views as being hostile and trying to buy its assets. during the last time bytedance raised money from investors back in 2023, it did so at a valuation of roughly $220 billion. that's for all of bytedance. tiktok is just a portion, a fraction of that business, so it would probably fetch a fraction as a stand alone company. now, the public criticism of tiktok and the offer of a potential deal to buy it is interesting given that mnuchin was a member of the trump administration. the treasury secretary himself then. because trump now has publicly criticized that legislation that would in essence force that sale of tiktok in the.s.
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>> and do we know where mnuchin's money would be coming from? >> so that is still unclear. i mentioned the estimates are still pretty murky right now. mnuchin also said that he does not yet have -- he didn't lay out at least any parties that could assess how much it is worth, nor did he offer specifics on who other potential investors could be or what the valuation would be. but his private investment firm liberty street capital, it has been active on the deal front, most recently, jose, it rushed in with a $1 billion investment into embattled regional bank new york community bancorp. we'll keep an eye on whether or not there are more investors that step up as part of this group, jose. >> and julie, you have new reporting about senator bob menendez? >> reporter: i do, jose. the embattled senator who faced many charges in his multiple court battles is now apparent
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eyeing an independent run for senate, according to two sources. this is for several reasons. first being he would only have until march 25th and he would need a thousand signatures to get on the ballot as a democrat in new jersey, a field that is already pretty crowded with congressman andy kim running and the first lady of new jersey, tammy murphy. instead running as independent would give him a longer runway until june 4th, i'm told. he would only need 800 signatures. sources tell us he started making calls about his record to allies about statistics, about his long career, here in the senate. and he will start to collect petitions as well to start that signature gathering process. one thing that is interesting here, just to point out here, one of the reasons potentially that menendez could be doing this, why would he be trying to stay on the ballot, well, it is because those legal bills, they are costly, and certainly one of
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the ways that he can fund-raise more is if he stays as a candidate on the ballot, he has name recognition that way, he can still raise some funds from allies. we have seen this happen in the case of former president trump who spent more than $27 million of campaign funds on legal bills. this is something notable, something we're watching. and breaking here first on nbc news. >> and julie, senate majority leader chuck schumer gave a speech on the pathway to peace in the middle east? >> reporter: condemnation of prime minister netanyahu, this is so notable because he's the highest ranking jewish elected official, he's also the first jewish majority leader, he had a very long, very close relationship with israel, even visiting the country in the mere days after the october 7th attack. i want you to take a listen at what he said on the floor here. >> as a life-long supporter of israel, it has become clear to me that netanyahu coalition no
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longer fits the needs of israel after october 7th. israel has the right to choose its own leaders. and we should let the chips fall where they may. but the important thing is that israelis are given a choice, there needs to be a fresh debate about the future of israel after october 7th. in my opinion, that is best accomplished by holding an election. >> reporter: you hear him calling for an election change, regime change there in israel. mcconnell who is the top republican in the senate, moments ago, jose, responding to schumer saying in part, quote, it is grotesque and hypocritical for american who complain about foreign interference in our own democracy to call for the removal of the democratically elected leader of israel. developing situation here in capitol hill. >> julie tsirkin and dominic chu, thank you both so very much. still ahead, we're keeping our eyes on a federal courthouse in florida where trump's attorneys are trying to get case
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against him thrown out. we're bring you any developments as soon as we get them. as the violence escalates in haiti, gabe gutierrez is standing by over the border in the dominican republic. what are you seeing now? >> reporter: hey there, jose. the u.n. is trying to get more humanitarian aid into haiti. we're here on the dominican republic, across from haiti's border. a live report on the ground and i'll show you the overwhelming need here after a break. i'll shg need here after a break. power e*trade's award-winning trading app makes trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley power e*trade's easy-to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans help you find new trading opportunities, while an earnings tool helps you plan your trades and stay on top of the market. e*trade from morgan stanley
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22 past the hour. the situation in haiti continues to deteriorate amid escalating gang violence. the u.n. says more than 362,000 haitians have been displaced and warns the country is on the brink of a hunger crisis as humanitarian aid runs out. country's political future remains uncertain after the prime minister announced he would resign. yesterday, u.s. secretary of state antony blinken said he spoke with kenya's president about kenya's u.n. security mission for haiti saying it will move forward once an interim prime minister and transitional council is established. joining us now, nbc's gabe gutierrez from dominican republic, on the border with haiti, and retired admiral james stavridis, nbc news chief international analyst, former supreme allied commander of nato and former commander of the u.s. southern command. his new book is out now.
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the situation in haiti continues to deteriorate by the second. what is the latest now? >> reporter: jose, i want to show you something really quickly. walk over here with me. this is humanitarian aid that is going into haiti right now. the reason i'm showing you this, these are haitians that are bringing it in. the reason is that haiti's border is right over there. you see that mass of people going back there? that's because this border has been closed, but, today, and only today, it is temporarily opened for this open air market in no-man's-land, in between the two countries. haiti over there, the dominican republic over here. and this is what we have been seeing all morning, jose. just look at this line. the market goes all the way over there. jose, the u.n. is trying to get more humanitarian aid into haiti. they're opening up humanitarian corridor and there is frankly some chaos here this morning as
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people have been telling us they're so hungry over the border. now, jose, as you know, about 80% of the capital port-au-prince is under the control of gangs. not as much in the rural areas of haiti. that's where we are in the northwest part of the dominican republic, the northeast part of haiti. not as much violence here. but there is extreme poverty. and the humanitarian need is overwhelming because there is a lot of hunger here. so you see all these haitians now waiting in line to get back across the border. and there is that open air market over there. jose, as you say, the deterioration in haiti is deteriorating even more. and they just keep saying they want the world to pay attention and know just how much need there is here. >> and so, gabe, thank you for being there. thank you for bringing us -- i want to talk about the area. this is just a temporary one day pause in what has been a shut
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border for the longest period of time. so, the people that are coming from haiti are allowed to go into that area, but not into the dominican republic, essentially and then forced to go back? >> reporter: that's right. so, let me -- yes, exactly right. so, the ones that are allowed to come here, we're told, they do have to pay a fee, what little they have, in order to get a permit to come here. and my colleague, photojournalist, he can pan around here, you can see where those -- that gate is right over there, there is security officers right there blocking the path. they can go no further. we're essentially in a no-man's-land here between haiti and the dominican republic. that's why the haitians are allowed to be here. they cannot go any further. but they come here, we're told now, they have this open air market about once a week. but by and large, the border here is shut down and in just a few minutes ago, we saw an
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immigration bus bringing haitians that have gotten into the dominican republic, authorities say they got there illegally, and they were the unlucky ones being deported right back to haiti, right back to a desperate situation, jose. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you for that reporting. appreciate it. admiral, so much to talk with you about. last year this is last year, you wrote a piece saying haiti needs a new u.n. mission, this time led by the u.s. you know this better than anybody else, the history of american intervention in the americas is not that great. in haiti in particular, many would think it is disastrous many times. what do you think needs to happen now and why did you write that piece last year? >> because i saw these trend lines moving in all of the wrong direction. haiti has the poorest population in all of the americas, well over half live on less than $2 a
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day. in the '90s, americans tend to forget we had wave of migration, refugee driven, from haiti. all of that could happen again if we don't get a peacekeeping mission in place, united nations commanded, there was such a mission, as you'll recall, jose, from '07 to '17, 10,000 troops, mostly from the americas. brazil, chile, no americans in that mission at that time. we were engaged in wars in iraq and afghanistan. now we have this crisis within our shared neighborhood in the americas, and so far the only nation to stand up and say they'll send a thousand troops, which is not enough, is kenya. the u.s. needs to get involved in a leadership role here and very quickly. >> admiral, you know, haiti and, again, you know this better than
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anybody else, haiti has a rich, extraordinary history, the first free black republic in the new world, first independent state in the caribbean and haiti has been plagued by political mismanagement, violence, the haitian people have suffered so much and i'm thinking of how the different governments and regimes in the history of haiti have abused their people from and why is haiti so hurt? >> first and foremost, they have no natural resources whatsoever. secondly, you put your finger on it already, a series of bad leaders have taken over and abused the country. and it is a good example of how political leadership done well can save a country, even if it
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has no resources. but a country like haiti that has very little in the way of food, oil, none of it, even the wood has been burned for fires as you're showing there, the forests are essentially nonexistent. it is a nation that has also been struck again and again and again by natural disasters. earthquakes, massive hurricane storms. it is a nation that has never gotten its footing in the 20th century. and so, again, we as an international community, i think, have a humanitarian crisis and in the united states, ultimately, a wave of migration could be headed at us if we can't help head this off. the u.n. is a good pathway for this. >> james stavridis, admiral james stavridis, thank you very much. it is a pleasure to have you on with us. up next, we'll get an update
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35 past hour. we go back to florida where we are learning more this morning about what is happening inside a motions hearing in the classified documents case
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against former president donald trump. nbc's dasha burns is outside the federal courthouse in fort pierce. good morning. what's been happening so far? >> reporter: so, jose, right now we're in the middle of the first of two motions to dismiss that will be argued in front of judge cannon today. the first motion is based on this rule called unconstitutional vegas. the trump legal team is arguing that the main statute used against him is unconstitutionally vague. which is a rule that says criminal laws need to state explicitly and definitely which conduct is punishable. they say that's not the case here. now, jack smith, the special counsel, has responded to this publicly and we expect that he will argue quite the opposite, saying that the law here is clear. and that he willfully and unlawfully detained these documents. now, after this we expect him to move on to the second motion to dismiss, which is based in the
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presidential records act. and there the trump team is going to argue that when trump was president, he made the records that were found at mar-a-lago personal records, and that he, in that case, did nothing wrong, jose. >> dasha burns in fort pierce this morning, thank you so very much. and right now, vice president harris is on the way to minnesota, where she will be touring a planned parenthood clinic that provides abortion services, according to three sources familiar with the plans. it comes as the biden campaign seeks to make access to reproductive healthcare a major focal point in its re-election bid. joining us now, nbc news washington correspondent yamiche alcindor. what went into the vice president's decision to visit this clinic? >> reporter: well, good morning, jose. vice president kamala harris is set to make history here. she is going to be in a little over a couple of hours the first vice president or president to visit a health clinic that provides abortion services. sources close to her and
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familiar with the plans tell me that they are really focused on making sure that she is focused on being out with the people. she didn't want to be behind a podium speaking about abortion. she's done that a number of times as part of a tour, pushing for access to abortion. this time she wanted to be in the place where it happens, so she's going to be touring this planned parenthood clinic, talking to medical professionals, who provide abortion services. i'm told she may speak to patients, her office is very concerned and wants to make sure they're not disturbing any services as she mentioned there. she has been a prominent voice on the issue of abortion for the biden administration. she held a number of events and has been very forceful in her criticisms of republicans who she says is really hurting the ability for women to control what happens with their bodies. i should note that in 2013, former president barack obama, he became the first president ever to address planned parenthood, but that was at a conference at a hotel in d.c., now you have the vice president putting boots on the ground, in
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an abortion clinic. it underscores that the biden administration and the vice president herself are wanting to make this a prominent issue as of course we move closer and closer to november, jose. >> yeah, yamiche, this comes as we learned former president trump is keeping a close eye on the way republicans very well may be vulnerable on this topic. what does it tell you about the role this issue is going to play in this election season? >> well, what it tells you is that republicans and former president trump, they understand that abortion is really making them vulnerable here. ever since roe v. wade was overturned, you had a number of women come out, republicans and democrats, women across all socioeconomic backgrounds as well as races tell me personally they feel as though the federal government is trying to control their bodies, so the issue of abortion has become a real hot topic, of course. for republicans in particular, go back to the midterms in 2022, democrats were able to take this issue of abortion, the anger that a number of women felt and
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were able to do much better in the midterms in 2022 than expected. now you have democrats hoping to capitalize on this issue again. we should note republicans, they're also scrambling to figure out how to deal with the consequences of overturning roe v. wade. we saw in alabama, where a number of women had their ivt treatments paused. republicans were trying to push for that. we saw republicans now in arizona blocking a bill that would protect birth control. so it tells you that republicans are on their heels here. >> yamiche alcindor in washington, thanks so much. up next, new reporting on what is now required for i.c.e. agents in five major cities. he was seen on video taking part in a white supremacist rally. we'll show you what happens when an nbc news reporter confronts him about his past amid a new effort to expel him. t his past effort to expel him. >> you were a leader in an
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what is i.c.e. saying about this? >> this is making good on a 2022 executive order from the biden administration, that president biden signed directing all federal law enforcement agencies to start wearing body cameras. to at least adopt policies regarding how they would use body cameras. i.c.e. is one of first to make it there. others are trying to figure out exactly what the policy would be. and they're doing it, they're starting it out in five cities. they're doing it in philadelphia, baltimore, washington, d.c., buffalo, and detroit. and the problem is, jose, they might not have the money to actually expand it because as you know, i.c.e. as well as all of dhs is in an enormous budget crunch because republicans are refusing to give money to dhs because they're upset over biden's border policies. but they are starting for people who are arresting migrants, arresting people who are in violation of immigration crimes.
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anyone i.c.e. is interacting with, they will be recorded under this new policy. >> so, the big question, of course, is how will that footage from those cameras be disclosed? >> well, they do have some policies regarding when they can record. they can't record at a hospital or a courtroom or any place where they say you have the assumption of privacy. but if they're going into someone's house and making an arrest, they'll have to record that footage and it should be somewhat available to the public. we have talked about footage that we have gotten just from surveillance cameras, in ware houses where i.c.e. conducted raids and has been questioned for their tactics. a man had an i.c.e. agent kneel on his shoulder blade that is something that the aclu and other groups were able to bring up as a possible violation. now they'll be able to get more of that footage and when the press asks about it, we have an understanding at least from what we have been told that we should be able to get that footage. >> julia ainsley, thank you so much. good to see you.
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turning now to oklahoma, where nbc news has a new investigation out of the small community of enid where residents must decide whether to vote out an elected official who led a white nationalist group. nbc news senior reporter brandy zadrozny has the story. >> reporter: it is an unusual meetup on monday night in enid, oklahoma. the location is secret. somebody mines the door for security. a small group determined to change their city. >> everybody in this room played a role. >> reporter: among those here are 69-year-old connie vicars. >> i was born and raised here. >> reporter: and 74-year-old nancy presnal, best friends and democrats, rare in the deeply conservative county. both retired, but hard at work. how many doors did you knock on? >> i don't know. >> it was a lot. >> reporter: enough to get the signatures needed for a recall election of city commissioner judd blevins.
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this is judd blevins, in 2017, ticky torch in hand in charlottesville, virginia, marching along side avowed white supremacists and neo-nazis. >> i saw the picture of judd blevins with the tiki torch and i was, like, just shocked. >> reporter: the more they looked, the more they found. blevins had been an active leader in the white nationalist group identity europa. according to an analysis of photos, biographical details and other information, he hid his white nationalist identity behind the online moniker, conway, in forums reviewed by nbc news, believes as conway posted racist messages and praised hitler. and yet when the former marine ran for city commissioner last year as a conservative republican -- >> he won by 36 votes. >> reporter: now they are part of the enid social justice committee, vocal opponents of blevins since he took office.
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the group mincing no words on its website saying enid has a nazi problem. >> a lot of people don't want to say the word nazi, but when you see what he did, and what he's involved with, you know, it is not name calling, it is what he is and what he believes. >> reporter: we wanted to ask blevins what he believes for ourselves. but he denied our multiple requests for interviews. we tried once more outside a city council meeting. can i ask, you were a leader in an oklahoma chapter of the white nationalist organization. and i want to know if you have any explanation for that. why did you -- >> excuse me. >> why did you hold a tiki tor and march and say jews will not -- >> i have been a conservative all my life. >> reporter: this woman was an editor when he won. her paper published a story about his past prior to the election. blevins called it a hit piece. >> we followed up many times.
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he never would answer us. >> reporter: and yet he won. >> he won. there's an opportunity now to address what kind of tolerance of extremism this community will have. >> reporter: the mayor also a conservative republican says behind closed doors, blevinsed a -- admitted to white nationalist activities. >> i asked, are you still involved? he told me, i don't have to answer. my thought was, you just did. >> reporter: the opponent is a republican, too. she didn't want to talk about the race with us. a race that most here see as squarely about blevins. >> we vote him in a second time, it probably says a lot about who we are. >> reporter: that identity is exactly what these women are working for. national white supremacist
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>> 56 past the hour. that was the historic launch this morning of the world's most powerful rocket. spacex's starship. it was the third attempt after the previous two ended in an explosion. spacex hopes a version of this rocket will take humans to the moon and beyond. tom costello, what does the launch mean for spacex and what the future looks like? >> a success today. we need to state up front that it was lost on reentry about 45 minutes into flight. let's begin with the images of the launch. spectacular. this rocket is 400 feet tall. the most powerful rocket ever. it was elon musk and spacex's third attempt to get this rocket
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into orbit without losing the rocket. boy, did they succeed. they not only hit orbital speed, they conducted several key tests. you stay with the images. they were able to open and close the payload doors. they were able to shift some of the liquid oxygen between tanks while they were in orbit. that successful as they were flying at more than 25,000 kilometers an hour. then on reentry, they were supposed to splash down into the indian ocean. look right there. you see that flame? what incredible imagery we have now as we see -- right there. we see the plasma enveloing the spaceship. it was lost over the indian ocean. this is how spacex has built its reputation, having reusable
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rockets. they were hoping -- they are hoping that they can do that with the biggest rocket ever built. that will make it more economical for going to the moon, going to mars. so this is where today they had a failure. mostly, a huge success, in proving they can get to orbital speed and everything went very, very well. as you know, the key here, jose, is to use this to bring astronauts to the moon and then eventually some day to mars. >> unbelievable. tom costello, great to see you. thank you. appreciate it. >> you too. before we go, good news. a beloved security guard at a rhode island college got the surprise and gift of a lifetime. look at this. >> our gift to you is a trip to nigeria. we have a card for you and we have a little gift inside.
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we appreciate you. >> students at a providence college dorm recently gave james, their favorite security guard, a trip to nigeria after finding out he hadn't seen his family in more than ten years. they launched a gofundme and got a huge response. to date, they raised more than $27,000. they say james makes the campus feel like home. he is expected to take his trip this june. a great, great story. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on social media. you can watch clips from our show at youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the trump classified documents case could be on line as

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