♪♪ welcome back to our second hour of "chris jansing reports," a lot to get to. biden's big campaign push. the president's plans to visit three states this week. plus, the ad blitz where he's putting his age front and center. haiti in crisis. the late-night marine mission to evacuate embassy staff as violent gangs overrun the country. missed warning signs? dramatic testimony from the school counselor who met we than crumbley's father just hours before the teen killed four of his classmates. and a royal apology. what the princess of wales is saying about a manipulated

photo. we begin with nbc's aaron gilchrist in new hampshire where president biden just touched down a short time ago. aaron, what are we expecting there? >> reporter: chris, good afternoon, we expect to hear from the president near the bottom of the hour here, and this is an official event as opposed to the campaign events we saw on saturday and on friday in philadelphia area, and in atlanta. today the president's focus as we understand it from a white house official, will be on lowering health care costs, something he talked about during the state of the union address and will reiterate today, highlighting in particular his call on congress to make some changes to enact some policies that he believes would lower health care costs, proposals that are in the president's budget that was released today, the 2025 budget. in particular, there's one portion of the president's policy plan that would reduce -- rather, cap costs for prescription drugs, they're drugs that are already capped for people who receive medicare. the president wants to see that

extended to all americans. we also hear from a white house official that the president will compare and contrast his policy plans with what he says are the opposite plans the republicans would but forth, the president noting he's heard some republicans talk about making cuts to medicare and to medicaid. he'll also talk about president trump -- former president trump, and how his plans compare and contrast to what the former president has put forward as well, as he did in a new commercial, a campaign ad released over the weekend. i want you to hear part of it, which talks about that and twice talks about the president's age. >> i'm not a young guy. that's no secret. but here's the deal, i understand how to get things done for the american people. i led the country through the covid crisis. today we have the strongest economy in the world. for four years donald trump tried to pass an infrastructure law, and he failed. i got it done. now we're rebuilding america. i'm joe biden, and i approve

this message. >> can we do one more take? >> look, i'm very young, energetic and handsome, what the hell am i doing this for? >> now, the theme you can expect to hear moving forward with the campaign, the president is talking about his age through the lens of what he's gotten done, based on his wisdom and his experience as a man of 81 years, and then comparing that to what he says would be the alternative one might see from former president trump if he were to win reelection. chris? >> aaron gilchrist, thank you. to the latest on haiti now where u.s. forces are beefing up security at the embassy amid an increase in gang attacks. andrea mitchell is covering this story for us. the situation has gotten so dire, as you know, andrea, secretary of state blinken just arrived in jamaica in the last half hour. there's an urgent meeting with caribbean leaders. what can you tell us? >> reporter: the u.s., we understand, is going to announce that they are disbursing

$100 million rapidly of the $200 million that the president -- rather, the secretary of state promised last month for this multi-national force. but the multi-national force that's supposed to try to establish some peace keeping presence there where criminal gangs are running amuck and the prime minister himself has left before puerto rico and there's so much opposition to him from the ground, although no direct call from the u.s. for him to step down. so at this point, that multi-national force, which is supposed to be led by kenya, is still not there. and it's basically a lawless place, the u.s. military evacuated non-essential military -- rather, embassy personnel just this weekend. and, haiti has been just besieged with political problems, there was an assassination in 2020, then in

2021, a judge there declared that this prime minister, as well as the widow of the leader, who was assassinated, took part in that assassination. but that investigation can't continue as long as he's still the leader. and so, he's not stepping down yet, but he's in puerto rico, and is fiercely opposed from the ground. i talked to dan foot, who is a former special envoy today, a special envoy who protested over u.s. migration policies, turning haitians away at the border. and the state department sharply rebuked him, saying that his advice had been listened to and had been rejected as non-practical, but foot says that the u.s. has basically not taken responsibility for supporting the wrong political players and not letting the haitian people determine their own fate. so there's just a lot of political disagreement, and this emergency meeting by the caribbean leaders attended by the secretary today is

considered, at best, a band-aid so far. we haven't, you know, heard from their meetings. but the u.n. is critical that the effort has not taken off to get the peace keeping force -- thank you. today a school counselor testified about his meeting with james crumbley. that meeting just hours before his son's shooting rampage at a michigan high school. nbc's adrienne broaddus is following this for us. what more are we hearing from court today? >> reporter: chris, good afternoon to you, on the stand right now is an investigator who worked on this case, an investigator with the atf. but before the lunch hour, a big bulk of testimony here on day three came from that counselor who is currently on leave. we're talking about sean hopkins. on your screen right now you see james crumbley inside of the courtroom. you'll notice he's wearing headphones to help with his

hearing assistance. now, sean hopkins, who was an oxford high school counselor at the time of the shooting testified that he called james and jennifer crumbley hours before the shooting, alerting them about disturbing images of a gun, bullets and troubling messages their son wrote on a math worksheet. he testified he was afraid ethan crumbley was going to hurt or harm himself. here's more of what he said inside of the courtroom. >> i have parents saying they have to return to work. i have a student that i don't want left alone. and so that's when i asked, is there anything from a discipline standpoint, any reason he can't stay in school? anything you need to do? and then i made the decision, i made a judgment call based on what i had, is i didn't want a student potentially home alone. >> reporter: and in that brief bit of his testimony you heard

him refer to mr. ejak, he's talking about nicholas ejak, who was the former dean of students who at the time back in 2021 dealt with behavioral issues and discipline. he was trying to find out whether or not they could send, legally, ethan crumbley home because the big question has been, why did school leaders allow him to stay in the classroom after seeing those images and messages on that math worksheet, and then the day before the shooting, the guidance counselor received an email from another teacher saying that she saw ethan crumbley looking up bullets and ammunition. i also want to underscore that james crumbley, his communication has been limited. this, after the oakland county sheriff's department said he allegedly made threatening statements. we don't know who those statements were directed toward. chris? >> adrienne broaddus, thank you for your ongoing coverage there. now to london, where a new statement from the princess of wales has done very little to

silence the conspiracy theories surrounding a doctored family photo. nbc's matt bradley is live in front of buckingham palace. matt, we don't see the princess for months, and now, this apology, a picture that people don't even understand the location of some of the supposed edits. what is going on? >> reporter: yeah, chris, i don't know what's going on. i'm trying to figure it out. if you do, if anybody does know what's going on they can make a lot of money selling stories to the british tabloids, filled with this picture and speculation about the princess and her family this morning. what we can be certain about, and little else we can be certain about is that the palace, it looks like, really kind of scored a known goal here, this is an issue, they seem to want to put this picture out yesterday on mother's day to maybe tamp down speculation, and conspiracy theories, some of which were pretty hilarious on social media over the past several months about kate's whereabouts and about her

health. the palace has always said she's healthy and recovering and they've always said they won't be releasing regular updates on her health until easter. so, they have, instead, tried to tamp down this speculation. but that, as i've said, was a massive own goal because it has only increased the feverish speculation about where kate middleton is, whether she's safe. and we just saw just a couple of hours ago a photo that was released to the public that looked as though, we're seeing prince william in the front of a car sitting next to someone who looks like kate middleton but you can't see her very well. the fact is, if the palace was trying to contain this situation, they have done exactly the opposite. and those of us who are on social media, you know, who have been in the face of this kind of harassment, or abuse, or whatever you get on social media, you know that often, almost always, the best response is no response at all. now, this couple, the royal

couple, and their handlers, they had to have known this. there must have been some sort of conversation going on behind the palace walls about what exactly to do, they weighed the pros and cons and decided it was time to speak out. that was probably not the right decision. >> matt bradley, keep us posted. thank you. and coming up on "chris jansing reports" in just 60 seconds, not even $91 million can get donald trump to stop talking about e. jean carroll. his brand new comments and whether he just maybe opened the door to another lawsuit. >> based on false accusations made about me by a woman that i knew nothing about, didn't know, never heard of, i know nothing about her -- [dog whimpers] [thinking] why always the couch? does he need to go to puppy school? get his little puppy diploma? how much have i been spending on this little guy? when your questions about life turn into questions about money... there's erica. the virtual financial assistant to help you spend,

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states the president will visit this week as part of a post-state of the union push, he's also going to be heading to wisconsin and michigan. today, yet again, the question of what it will take to stop donald trump's attacks on e. jean carroll. when trump was order today pay more than $83 million for defaming her, her lawyers said, quote, all he really understands is money and so you should award him the amount of money that will make him stop. whether that will succeed, i don't know. well, now we have our answer, after posting a bond equivalent to 110% of the judgment, so that's roughly $91 million, trump is back at it, going after carroll during a weekend rally and then again this morning on cnbc. >> i just posted a $91 million bond, $91 million on a fake story, totally made up story, based on false accusations made about me by a woman that i knew nothing about, didn't know, never heard of, i know nothing

about her. >> i got charged. i was given a false accusation, and had to post a $91 million bond on a false accusation. >> with me on set, msnbc legal correspondent lisa reuben, and criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. i understand, lisa, there was a new letter from carroll's team regarding this bond, what's in it? >> basically, their agreement to the bond. they were given an opportunity by the federal judge overseeing the e. jean carroll case to object to the bond, either its form or amount, or even the insurer that was involved. they had a limited objection about a particular provision. they seem to have worked that out with trump's folks, and therefore the hearing that could have happened at 3:00 p.m. today is off. whether or not there will be an e. jean carroll iii case is another question entirely, chris. >> that's the question now, given what we heard from robby kaplan during the trial we'll have to wait and see whether or

not this helps us to silence him. could trump have opened himself up to another lawsuit here? >> this is from lisa's own reporting, she pointed out when he made these statements they were pretty similar to what he said on september 22nd, 2019, and the two major prongs are, never met the woman before, and totally false accusations. and, because in this case the judge already found, he applied a doctrine called issue preclusion, when you have the same parties generally speaking, they don't have to be in the same case, but same parties, same issue, and it's already been resolved, it often becomes what's called a law of the case. so, going forward, it could be said that every time trump says something like this, which is as lisa pointed out, almost identical to what he said, and what he was sued upon in 2019, arguably every time he says this, there doesn't need to be a trial on liability. it can just be, theoretically, a trial on how much he owes every time he keeps saying the same thing, and those words keep coming out of his mouth. >> so what would that look like,

lisa, getting to that point? >> it would probably involve a new complaint, and then there would be a motion to determine that there is, what danny just referred to, as issue preclusion, that the statements are substantively identical enough that the judge, himself or herself, can determine liability and then go to a jury for the determination of damages. chris, one other possibility, which enjean carol's lawyers have not floated to date, is there grounds for injunctive relief. in the rudy giuliani case brought by two georgia election workers where they got $148 million judgment, they are now also asking for an injunction, which would essentially order rudy to keep their names out of his mouth vis-a-vis the accusations that were made against them and were false. that's another option here for e. jean carroll, particularly if it's difficult without waiting for further damages to accrue, and it's kind of perverse.

right? she would have to show that she's been damaged to get an award from a jury, but that could entail letting death threats pile up or letting awful comments against her pile up on social media. who should have to endure that? it may be that her lawyers decide their next best step is to ask for a temporary restraining order, or preliminary injunction that prevents donald trump from reciting these same lies again and again as he has. >> let's move on to georgia, danny, where we know we're waiting to hear whether the judge is going to keep fani willis on the case or whether she's disqualified from the case. we heard last week trump's co-defendant was pushing to introduce new evidence about the relationship between fani willis and her special prosecutor nathan wade. so far no word from the judge on that. do we know why? >> judicial crystal balling is so difficult and more so with judge mcafee who has been completely inscrutable. some of the questions he asked

made me lean the meter one way and another question he'd ask, i'd go the other way back and forth between the state and the defense. here's a thought. if he hasn't reopened the evidence, based on the new allegations and evidence that the defense wants to introduce, maybe that suggests that he doesn't need to hear it. well, why wouldn't he need to hear it? maybe because he's already made a decision. what decision is that? does he think it's just not important to keep going over whether or not fani willis was truthful or not truthful about vacations or paying in cash, whatever the case may be. does he think he's already found the prosecutor and the d.a. have been less than truthful and he's planning on disqualifying them? or, on the other hand, is this just more of a collateral issue that the judge doesn't think means that the defense met their burden, and they had a burden here, really when it comes down to it, the law is on the state 's said. the facts, as salacious as they are, arguably, are on the defendant's side. >> assuming, one possibility, obviously, she gets to stay on

the case. lisa, has damage already been done? >> ashley merchant, mike moorman's lawyer, the person who brought the initial motion, she filed that motion on january 8th. it doesn't take somebody who's a mathematician to figure out that's already caused sizable delay in this case, in and of itself. but the damage to fani willis's reputation and to nathan wade's reputation, and moreover, the possibility that they could be investigated by a state bar for being untruthful with the tribunal because they were both witnesses here, those are still looming. and whether or not they are damaged in that way remains to be seen irrespective of what judge mcafee does. >> danny cevallos, lisa rubin, thank you both. nancy mace is defending her endorsement of donald trump even though he was found liable for sexual abuse. sahil kapur is reporting for us from capitol hill. what did nancy mace say and what

reaction is it getting? >> reporter: the congresswoman had a contentious exchange with abc interviewer george stephanopoulos, because of congresswoman mace's own shifting positions on trump but also as a window into what it says about her party. let's play some of that exchange and we'll talk about it on the other side. >> you've made it very clear, you're comfortable with donald trump being found liable for rape and comfortable with his actions. >> i didn't say that. you're putting words in my mouth. >> you wouldn't condemn it. >> no, you're putting words into my mouth. >> are you comfortable with it? >> i support donald trump for president. i just endorsed him a few weeks ago. >> even know he's been liable for rape. >> keep shaming women who have been raped, good luck with that. >> chris, this went on for a while, george stephanopoulos insisted he wasn't shaming her, calling her courageous for telling her story. mace didn't directly answer the question in terms of how she squares these two things but

said that he was shaming me for my political choices, it sparked reaction from e. jean carroll, who went on twitter thank you for defending me and went to wish nancy mace well, and salutes survivors for their strength. mace responded as well, without mentioning e. jean carroll, saying there's nothing valiant about shaming a rape victim. mace has had quite a journey with donald trump, january 6th, she was very critical of trump, said he had essentially wiped away his own legacy, voted to acquit him in the trial but said it was time for republicans to move on to new leaders, the next month, in 2021, donald trump endorsed a primary opponent to nancy mace. mace responded by going to trump tower, filming a video, talking about how she was one of trump's earliest support ers. she went on to win her primary and since then nancy mace has changed her tune. he endorsed donald trump for president before the south carolina primary against her

home state candidate nikki haley, and she was rewarded for that by trump's complete and total endorsement. let's show trump's post endorsing nancy mace. quote, it is my great honor to endorse a strong conservative voice for south carolina's first congressional district, the post goes on like -- you know, for some time with trump's endorsement. bottom line here, you know, loyalty is the price of admission, chris, for being into trump's orbit. nancy mace has taken that lesson and has decided to support trump even though she didn't quite explain how she's scaring these two things. >> sahil kapur, thank you. colliding with hollywood's biggest night, the political statements at last night's oscars, next. running this kitchen. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon.

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beyond the big winners at the oscars, "oppenheimer, seven trophies, four won by "poor things," the wars in gaza and ukraine repeatedly talked about by hollywood's elite from the tribute to the -- leading off in the in memoriam segment to this emotional speech from a ukrainian director. >> probably, i will be the first director on this stage who will say, i wish i would never made this film, i wish to be able to

exchange this to russia never attacking ukraine, never occupying our cities. >> first oscar ever for ukraine, and protesters delayed the start of the show, blocking roads and calling for an end in the war in gaza, with the holocaust film the zone of interest. >> it -- we stand here as men who refute jewishness and holocaust being hijacked and led to conflict for so many people. >> so, mark, hollywood's no stranger to activism on awards nights, but this year, i think there were at least five references to war and peace. what was your impression of the night? >> i wasn't surprised. we knew this was coming, we knew there were people in hollywood who since the war started, since the invasion of ukraine have been speaking out, and they know

that when they speak out, especially during awards circuit, you know, doing all of their campaigning, they can get in this message, and a lot of artists last night were wearing the red pin for a cease-fire. they know people like myself on the red carpet are going to be asking about it. so, it's no surprise when hollywood speaks out, especially during wartime. >> tell us a little bit more about that, and that movement, there is an organization, right, of artists who have banded together. talk a little bit about it. >> so, it's artists for a cease-fire, and, you know, it's right there in the title, so it's people like mark ruffalo, rami jusuf, billie eilish was wearing a pin last night. throughout the awards season we've seen artists arriving with red pins, as you see there in those stills, calling for a cease-fire. so, you know, obviously we know there's always a big debate, you

know people don't want to hear from hollywood on political issues or the serious issues but right now we're talking about it. they do get people talking. no matter whether you like celebrities talking about politics or not, it gets the conversation going. >> in fact, best actor winner cillian murphy, who is irish as he pointed out. stirred the crowd with this part of his speech. >> we made a film about the man who created the atomic bomb and for better or worse we're all living in oppenheimer's world, i'd like to dedicate this to the peacemakers everywhere. >> that got huge applause. is it a win, do they consider it a win just the fact that we're talking about it or that people listen to what they have to say, maybe it's not going to change what's happening in congress, maybe netanyahu isn't watching, but they want people to not sort of let it go with the 15-minute news cycles. >> i mean, that's exactly, you know, your point, they don't want this to go out of the news cycle.

they want people talking about it, they want people voicing opinions, obviously they want people on their side to voice an opinion. and they hope that translates into calling, you know, your elected official, or as we saw uncommitted voters. when it came to biden. so, you know, they did achieve what they wanted and as you mentioned in the introto the segment, there were protests going on in hollywood yesterday, and hollywood, during the oscars, you have to understand, is closed down to begin with. it's a traffic nightmare to begin with. so, these activists staged protests, a little away from the oscars, but were able to create some havoc, in fact, that the oscars had to start a few nins later because so many of the stars were running late, stars were leaving their cars to just walk to the oscars a few blocks, which is, you know, completely unheard of, i know it sounds silly in this context. but people were literally -- i was on the red carpet. every a-list celebrity was

rushing in to the oscars to get there on time because they were stuck in traffic. >> did you see some of those high heels? ending on an upbeat note, it was a yaet year for movies, just my opinion opinion, but a lot of other people thought that as well. but how is hollywood doing? because, after the strikes, which were mentioned, they brought all those folks from behind the scenes out onto the stage, after covid, and arguably those were the kind of people, right, who were hurt the most financially by the shutdowns from the strike and covid, is there a sense hollywood's on its way back? >> you know, that's a really good question and it really depends on what lens you're looking through, when you see "oppenheimer" and you see "barbie," movie theaters are back, but look at the studios and they're all cutting budgets. i have so many friends in this town who are losing jobs left and right. they're trying to figure out what is the new model that's going to work? you know, for every "barbie" and

"oppenheimer" how many movies are not bringing people into the theaters, obviously streaming has a lot to do with this. so it's really -- everyone's looking for the next "barbie" but that's an anomaly. it's tough in hollywood right now, it's not rainbow and sunshine and unicorns. people are hurting, but hopefully things will get on the upswing. will it be back to pre-covid times? that's tough to say. >> marc, thank you so much. still to come on "are chris jansing reports" why an effort to help new moms in congress is running into republican roadblocks. e into freefall. (the stock market is now down 23%). this is happening people. where there are so few certainties... (laughing) look around you. you deserve to know. as we navigate a future unknown.

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a member of the hard line house freedom caucus is proposing new moms in congress be allowed to vote remotely for six weeks after giving birth but according to "the wall street journal" the response from republican leadership has been less than enthusiastic. a florida representative welcomed her first child in august, one of the growing number of women, and younger women elected to congress, who are having babies. but republican opponents argue, the constitution requires them to be physically in the building for votes. it's just the latest headline raising questions about how successful republicans can be courting suburban women voters this november. with me now, former obama white house communications director,

coms director for hillary clinton's 2016 campaign, and host of how to win 2024 podcast, msnbc political analyst jennifer palmeri, and political analyst sudan del percio. one of the arguments, susan, is moms shouldn't be worried about tearing their c-section stitches while walking up the steps of the capitol. why are republicans opposing it? >> because they're idiots. i mean, i don't know how else to put it. this makes all the sense in the world. it has bipartisan support on it, republican leadership, especially seeing what happened with katie britt, you know, putting a woman in the kitchen to give a response, and so many other issues. this is something they could have gotten done, and frankly it wouldn't have had ha whole lot of fanfare, but now the spotlight is on them again, saying they basically want to have a war on women. >> so, jen, how gop conference chair elise stefanik has not signed on, at least the last we

checked, she had a child while in office. it comes on the heel of recent backlash against republicans on the alabama decision blocking ivf. how should democrats be messaging around this? >> i think it's -- i don't know, it is indicative to us that the republicans don't get it, and it's kind of shocking, actually, because it's such a lay-up, right, to support young mothers, i mean, they featured a young mother in katie britt in the state of the union so you think that they'd want to lean into that. but i think it's a -- for the democrats and for biden, it's a broader case about restriction of rights, that they want to control everything about you, and they're not even -- you know, in this case, they're not even willing to make allowances for, you know, want to decide how and when you can vote as well as being a mother, but, you know, the bigger thing, and it's such a fundamental, gut level decision for not all, but a lot of women in america, is telling women, you know, what to do with their bodies, and that just --

that, alone, is -- this is dumb, but that alone, i think, is hugely motivating to many people. >> and letting them choose when they decide they want to go back to work, right, so susan, you both mentioned -- >> and have a baby. >> and have a baby, right? we talked about senator katie britt, the controversy that came after the controversy just about the presentation of the speech was about this sex trafficking story from what 15, 20 years ago but conflating it with joe biden's immigration policy, she was questioned about that on fox. here it is. >> to be clear the story that you relate is not something that's happened under the biden administration, that particular person. >> well, i very clearly said, i spoke to a woman who told me about when she was trafficked when she was 12. so i didn't say a teenager. i didn't say a young woman.

a grown woman. a woman, when she was trafficked when she was 12. >> during the george w. bush administration, was that an explanation? >> no, but since it was viewed as an audition to be trump's vp candidate, it makes sense that she would double down when she got caught and continue to spin a non-truth if you will. i'm not surprised she did it but it was -- i'm really surprised at her staff actually that no one checked out this story and knew it was coming. >> or did they? >> or did they? or did they get the story from donald trump? i mean, that could be it too. >> so, jen, mitt romney tweeted that both, in his opinion, biden and katie britt, had over the top out of character deliveries on the state of the union night, but that, quote, the media overreaction to hers, not his, tells us who liberals most fear as the vp nominee. do you think that katie britt would bring something to the table democrats would fear?

>> no, she would not. but, i do think that we're wrong to, you know -- i don't know, i suspect that perhaps trump's team had a role in coming up with her -- with her speech. but i think we're -- you know, trump never goes to the middle. right, the sort of conventional political thing to do when you have a problem with suburban women is let's have katie britt be a spokesperson for republicans and trump at some level and talk about ivf, talk about how important it is to have families, that families have this option that we want to protect that, you know, here's a strong woman with a lot of agency that's doing a great job representing people in alabama as a united states senator. that is absolutely what they did not do. instead, they don't want to appeal to the center. not what trump does. he went to another extreme. there are a lot of women in

america that will bristle when someone like me says katie britt didn't show any power agency. they're like, it's my choice to stay in the kitchen. it's my choice to have a family. it's my choice to not work outside of the home. it's my choice to be a -- in her case, an evangelical christian that lives by these certain rules, and i think that is what biden the trying to -- excuse me, that's what trump is trying to -- to lean into. he's not necessarily appealing to women, he's sort of doubling down on his fundamental argument to evangelicals. >> jennifer palmieri, we lost your picture, but thankfully not your voice. >> we have katie britt. >> and susan del percio, thank you so much, appreciate it. still ahead, an nbc news exclusive, arctic warfare, u.s. marines training on the frozen tundra for a new battle front with russia. >> the arctic is absolutely

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so, right now, thousands of tiktokers are responding to capitol hill's potential tiktok ban using the #keeptictock. to share what the app means to to create income and community. nbc's brian cheung is here in the studio. what do the lawmakers say about the ban and what's it going to take to not have this app? >> just to back up, the lawmakers don't feel that the cat videos all about it. lawmakers are saying here you have tiktok this wildly popular app that's owned a chinese parent company bytedance. they're forcing bytedance to sell off tiktok in six months. if they can, no problem. if they don't, then it will be banned. what's interesting, chris, it has bipartisan support, it passed on a committee 50-0, you don't hear that happening in

congress at all these day. interesting to hear what two senators on opposite sides of the aisle said on "face the nation" this week. >> doesn't matter where you tell tiktok too, where they're headquartered, doesn't even matter where they store the data. as long as bytedance engineers control that algorithm, they have to have access to the american data to make it work. and that's what we need to confront. >> i think there's a lot of creativity on tiktok, as well as the algorithm mode, if this was a brazilian company or canadian, it wouldn't cause conturnization. >> marco rubio and if you listen to that conversation, sounds like support in that chamber as well. and the president has said, as of friday, he would support this bill as well. so the path is there, the get is could they actually divest if this bill gets passed into law. that's the only question.

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