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that should give inspiration for lawmakers in the u.s. >> why can't we be canada? >> women who came forward about on campus sexual assault won the week for me. jerry falwell started this to push ideas that had nothing to do with jesus's teachings. we know they were systemically covering up sexual assault. thank you to the women and journalists who broke with the story. >> amen, amen, amen. joe biden i think won the week but in addition to that leisure won the week and our good friend robert lyon we will now embarrass who is one of our incredible team members, our line producer, this is his last day and we will miss you. don't forget us and we will now call you and bother you and text you. we love you.
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that is tonight's reid out. all in with chris hayes starts now. >> tonight on all in. >> we will not walk away. >> speech defies expectations. >> still at odds with everyday joe. the ap affectionately called it feisty. >> that was an embarrassment last night. get lost, you are a joke. >> tonight the evidence that the incumbent is on the right path plus why even modern world is befuddled by the republican response. >> right now the american dream turned into a nightmare. >> by the president's supreme confrontation could be an even bigger deal than it looks. >> with all due respect, justices, you are about to realize --
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>> we start right now! good evening from new york. i am chris hayes. if there is any doubt the general election is here it became clear in the first 30 seconds of president biden state of the union address. he came to the state as the nominee of his own party facing his predecessor running again and from the very first moment he set the stakes of an existential battle of the future of american democracy. the battle against the men holding the democracy against the man who previously held it and then lost it and then fomented a violent coup to try to maintain it. it was aggressive prosecution right out of the gate. a lot of the mainstream media has spent the past few years and months caricaturing joe biden as impossibly feeble,
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while he did not look that way last night. the president seemed to relish the hackles from republicans in the chamber. one of my absolute favorite moments happen before the speech started as biden made his way into the chamber shaking hands before he made this face after swatting congress move in -- congresswoman's marjorie taylor greene's outfit. once they got to the podium and the speech started he used every opportunity to speak about a range of issues. >> ukraine can stop putin if we stand with ukraine and provide the weapons now assistance to
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ukraine is being blocked i those who want to walk away from our leadership. and my predecessor, a former republican president tells putin "do what you want. many of you in this chamber and my predecessor are promising to pass a ban on reproductive freedom. if you are the american people send me a congress that supports the right to choose and i promise i will restore roe v wade as the law of the land again. my predecessor and many in this chamber want to take away the affordable care act. i will not let that happen. >> the messaging was clear. democrats oppose putin's aggression and republicans do
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not. democrats support reproductive freedom and republicans clearly do not. all culminating in a very telling exchange of the number one political priority, tax cuts. >> we have two ways to go. republicans can cut social security and give more tax breaks to the wealthy, that is the proposal you guys don't want another tax cut? i thought that's what your plan was? well that is good to hear. you will not cut another $2 trillion that is good to hear. >> they will try to cut another $2 trillion. one of the tax cuts expired and it is a huge part of the agenda. president biden was reminding all 32 million voters who tuned in of the most unpopular moment of donald trump's presidency
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other than the days after january 6th trump and republicans in congress forced through a massive tax cut for the wealthy and corporations. the only actually republican victory. the biggest piece of legislation despite their vocal provocations it is what they should do again should they take control of congress and the white house. they are smart enough not to open a campaign on it because they know cutting taxes for the wealthy and further cutting taxes for corporations is an unbelievably unpopular thing. the fact is everyone who pays attention knows this campaign will be hard-fought and it will be a very close general election barring some unforeseen changes. joe biden and the democrats faced challenges ahead. no doubt you read them. but last night was not a display of the greatest strengths and advantages.
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they are on the right side of the policy specifics. the actual tangible things of governing of not every nearly every issue before voters. especially true on abortion rights and as a result there is this incredible mobilize face of tens of millions of people who have been showing for every special election across america. they were trying to do whatever they can to enshrine reproductive freedoms into law to beat back those who supported restrictions and that said by and large the voters who show up to vote even in midterms are already incredibly motivated. for the voters on the margins who will decide this election and the fate of the future trajectory of what we call american democracy a lot of
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them are not paying attention to politics. it is not their thing. there is an anecdote about a recent focus group held between voters which asked them about trumps upcoming january 6th court cases. they said what court cases and they said you know, the insurrection. he was the one who provoked it. they said oh yeah, i forgot about that. there are tons of examples. take this article.
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many voters have just started paying attention to the upcoming election and will not tune in fully for a while so this is crucial. this is what i took away from last night. people start to pay attention to this campaign. what the democratic joe biden kamala
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harris agenda looks like. what the trump republican party agenda looks like and judging by last night they would do so confidently knowing there on the right side of a whole host of issues. john favreau was the mastermind behind several state of the union speeches and while he served as president obama's chief speechwriter he is now co- author of the upcoming book democracy or us. tim miller is the former communications director for jeb bush's campaign now he also host a podcast because who doesn't these days and both are joining me now. john, i keep thinking about the fact the first five minutes of that speech. here's how i think about it. what is interesting to me is you package together three things you are on the right side of, 65-35.
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putin's aggression -- and there is no real conceptual coherence other than out of the gate i will plant a flag on these things that i know i have about the wind on my back on. >> like you said they are the most popular issues. issues were he has plenty of the public on his side. , but the entire thesis of his campaign has been defending democracy and freedom and i thought it was interesting he said he was there to wake up this congress and alert the american people and i think if your message is that democracy hangs in the balance at home and overseas you have to act like it and i think why he succeeded is because he showed that urgency has to come along with believing saving democracy
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is the cause of your presidency and what the country needs. it was like he was -- not like he was going to get a lot of supplies -- applause he would at least make them feel deeply uncomfortable or look embarrassed if they do and clap for some of that. >> i have to say because i tend -- at a human level i empathize with people. mike johnson like you could just watch the internal monologue of like -- no, no we are not clapping. >> he did not know. there was a few moments where it was like free the israeli hostages. every thing else he seemed on sure of. and in some ways that points to the difficulties of the republican party's position. it
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is donald trump's party. you can't be deciding what to clap for or not clap for. >> i'm a masochist. i was really enjoying that section. i think it was tough. you can tell that his internal monologue comes right off the top which is traditionally he would have been someone who clapped for this. >> is a half hearted class. come all of the vice president was standing up. he doesn't stand up. i think that tells you that a lot of members of this party are lost because i don't exactly know what i am supposed to do.
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strategically speaking i have to say i felt very seen by the first 20 minutes of the speech. generally speaking, presidents don't like micro targets state of the union to minority factions. but that's what he seemed to do. january 6 as well. >> that is a great point and another part of unifying them. i also thought the sort of bread and butter economic policy of the democratic party which is again that is a standard part of being a democratic president giving a speech but it was particularly pointed an aggressive and interesting in terms of presidential campaigns are so much about issues that people make higher and lower. for him to talk about tax cuts
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and obamacare that stuff has been lower on the salience meter in the media conversation all these things like it is very intentional and it choose to me a little bit of what this campaign will be about. >> it has but what is really high in salience is people's concerns about the lingering effects of inflation. inflation comes down and so in his economic section what you propose? a billionaires tax and making sure big companies can pay more and in order to make sure healthcare and childcare is cheaper, housing is cheaper so actually he was really trying to address the concerns of people who are still worried about high prices and that will also be the best contrast against donald trump. trump has proposed another huge tax cut for the rich and trump
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has proposed across-the-board tariffs that will sign a 10% tariff on anything you buy overseas and that will make inflation skyrocket.
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on paper senator katie britt was an excellent choice to deliver the response to the state of the union. she is the youngest republican woman ever elected in the senate. first woman senator from alabama. she is married to a former nfl player and is considered to be a rising political star. senator lindsey graham of south
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carolina said she represents the future of the party. the party clearly expects her to knock it out of the park. new york times reports that talking points were sent to her suggesting words of praise including "she came off like america's mom. described it as reminiscent of that shining city on a hill. before she uttered a word the author of the talking points declared her speech was pitch perfect. for the first 60 seconds it seemed fine. she was smiling and talking about the future of america but it thickly took a real turn. >> we see you, we hear you and we stand with you. >> the daily beast described
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the speech as overly dramatic. the performance was so bad that some republicans watched the high profile speech with a grimace. according to one strategist everyone is losing it and it's one of our biggest disasters ever. rolling stone was inundated with messages absolutely torturing her overdramatic rebuttal. a trump adviser wrote "what am i watching right now?" a pollster called it creepy and a congressional aide said it was cringe inducing to watch and likely will be a lame saturday life clip this weekend. the conversation was similar on social media work conservative activists received replies to a post asking his followers if he liked the speech. alum sanders compared to a b grade movie. stacy compared it to very babysitter reading a story. >> it reminded me of when a
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person spoke on sesame street. and on real america's voice others were stunned into silence. may god bless you and continue to bless these united states of america. >> i'm sure she is nice but everything about that on a night like tonight is wrong. >> reaction that may best represent the republican party comes from former football coach tommy tam or vail. >> i thought she did very well and she is a mom.
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and with all due respect, justices. women are not without electoral power, excuse me electoral or political power. you are about to realize just how right you were. those bragging have no clue about the power of women but they found out when reproductive freedom was on the ballot. we will win again in 2024. >> last night president biden made it clear he is running on restoring reproductive rights. fighting the republican agenda to implement a national abortion ban and to sign legislation that would enshrine and protect. joe biden and the democratic party are committed to this on principle. it is a bedrock of the parties
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dna. they also understand these issues are central to voters and that their position is overwhelmingly popular. alexis mcgill johnson is the ceo of planned parenthood and she joins me now. it is good to have you here. your reaction to the speech last night? >> in my position and in the room where it was incredibly electric. one in 10 of the house democrats were leaders of reproductive rights. they were providers, ceos of planned parenthood, they were patient and they were talking and engaged in a conversation watching the president say i want to restore road to the law of the land and i would challenge them to build it back better and make sure that we make a more expansive and inclusive national right and it was an incredible moment because they connected reproductive rights and freedom to the fight
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for democracy which ultimately was his big message. >> one thing that has become clear is there an interest intention on the republican party. i think the political professionals understand that their underwater on this issue but it's also something that generally does animate the grassroots. it is not like some con. not like someone is paying them to care about it. on thursday republicans passed a personhood bill where they could threaten care. -- would make it a felony to cause the death of an unborn person that has lots of implications. what you think about the fact that they still have their foot on the gas? >> is very perplexing. we have seen 35 bills in many states and whether or not this
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is there grassroots is what i would question. we have the majority of americans supporting reproductive freedom in every state. >> you could do it with the minority. >> i think when you talk about grassroots we are talking about a minority of people being elected only because they are safe in these gerrymandered districts. it is not the majority of who their base is because you wouldn't have a montana or a michigan even in fact or a kansas if we weren't seeing across party bipartisan desire to see that. i don't understand why they are doubling down. it makes no sense because they have proven they are criminalizing miscarriage and making pregnancy unsafe. and of course real people are talking about the real implications and they don't have a real legislative solution.
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>> one way out the president was clear, if you send me a bill i will sign it into law. on the other side there was talk about donald trump's musing about what the national band will be one of the things that is striking is so many of the horror stories we have heard are from women who had to have abortions for medical reasons past whatever the proposal for a national ban would be. >> i think that is a lot of people not understanding how pregnancy works. it is quite odd. i think what the president did was really demonstrate the threat. republicans have been running on a national abortion ban because that is what they believe there grassroots are saying so they are running to the right on reproductive freedom and that is not where the majority of americans are and what the president
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presented was a clear contrast. they linked abortion rights to ivf as part of a full spectrum of reproductive health care also now how we become parents. >> i think the savvier members of politicians will do in the selection is try to avoid the issue or they will say i don't support a national band. i wonder how important it is to affirmatively stick to it. one of the things the president was doing was pinning it to them and to be clear for anyone watching if you are opposed to abortion rights the republican party has a lot to offer. this is one of those plate -- issues and this is probably one of the most black-and-white. >> i don't see the bobbing and weaving happening among the democrats.
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i think they are 100%. i think on the republican side they are realizing that what they have on record they can't scrub. as the kids say get rid of the receipts but we have them. we understand really what they stood for and why and they are trying to run away from that because they don't know how to talk about it. >> i want to offer a thesis. there are some people who say that -- front of mind to voters has declined. it's important in 22 and it has declined. do you agree or contest that? >> i find the idea that people are pulling on the idea that we have somehow forgotten that this freedom has been taken away from us and that we can
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hold multiple ideas together is insulting. that we can't care about the climate and middle east and be like oh, abortion right now down here. when we understand that the choice around our freedom that affects our daily lives whether or not i take a job in texas whether or not -- whether they will travel in texas when they are 21 weeks pregnant. >> just make everyday decisions to get on a plane and decide how you will be. when you watch a state say we want the right to sue to let you die because we don't want to give you abortion care? that i think is so critically crazy and then you see alabama show up and you say yes, all of the things are connected and it is top of mind for people who cannot believe we are back here. i disagree with the thesis.
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>> final question for you about the national implications. it is very clear that in states where your vote in the state will protect it or not. that is the clearest possible you think quickly that it will translate to national politics. >> you can see that in ohio or michigan -- >> thank you. still to come by president bartlett -- biden started his policy. ben rhodes is here to explain.
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so clearly you. sotyktu. more than 32 million people watched the state of the union address. that is almost 5 million more than the number who watched biden last year. 32 million in this day and age is an enormous number. only 5% of those viewers were over 35 in part because this year the speech was taking place in the most fractured media landscape in history. we have seen layoffs and shutdowns decimating newsrooms and more people are getting their news from an increasingly unreliable internet of social media apps. a plurality of young voters are being misinformed by tick tock and instagram. and there is a ton of great stuff, i use them both and
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>> there's different sides to this issue. right now he is not winning either over. he is very underwater on the issue in total. the more he goes the more he is underwater on this issue. certainly in political, practical terms. thank you very much. i appreciate it. that is all in for this week. >> we haven't been together for special coverage. >> we are sitting next to each other. >> i peek behind the curtain. >>