>> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. here for a special second hour of all in. president joe biden is navigating extremely tense and difficult international crisis -- israel hamas enters its 25th day. right now, we believe 240 hostages remain in hamas custody. from gaza, rockets continue to fly into israel. roughly 250,000 israelis have been evacuated from the areas

near gaza and israel's border with lebanon. more than 1 million residents of gaza have been displaced or told to leave their homes. the israeli war on hamas has led to destruction across gaza, not just in the north. right now, the palestinian ministry of health estimates that more than 8500 people have been killed in gaza, including more than 3500 children. the palestinian ministry of health is controlled by hamas, but in the past, it's statistics about death during these sorts of conflicts have been broadly accurate. internationalhi wealth organization save the children is now warning the [inaudib just children killed in gaza in just the last three weeks is greater than the total number of children killed in all global conflicts each year since 2019. it is, by all accounts, anyone looking at it, then enormous humanitarian crisis. -- an enormous domestic political challenge. in the aftermath of the october

7th terror attack, the worst atrocity committed against jews since the holocaust, the u.s. saw a large [inaudible] outpouring of grief, rage, and empathy towards the victims of that horrific attack. now, prior to october 7th, american voters in the democratic party had become more skeptical of the current israeli government, which is the most right-wing government in israel's history. and americans, particularly progressives, watch as the center left israelis flooded the streets to protest that governments anti democratic judicial reforms. they witnessed the acutely familiar spectacle of prime minister benjamin netanyahu being criminally charged with fraud and seeking to escape accountability. the weeks since october 7th, as the death toll has climbed in gaza, protests calling for a cease-fire have spread, both internationally and in the u.s.. in new york and washington, d.c., hundreds of american jews have been arrested, calling for a cease-fire in nonviolent demonstrations. holding signs with messages like, not in our name and, my

grief is not your weapon. others have been more direct -- senate hearing at which secretary of state anthony blinken and defense secretary lloyd austin were testifying protesters painted their hands red to symbolize what they say was blood on america's hands. >> committee will suspend [inaudible] >> why aren't they at the table? cease-fire now. i beg you. cease-fire now. >> right now, calling for a cease-fire is still a distinctly minority opinion inside congress, as a whole. there's not a single senator, i think, who's calling for it and within the democratic caucus, there's only 18 members of congress that have signed on to resolution calling for a cease-fire. all of them are democrats, there are the ones you see there. the calls for a cease-fire are, it appears, to the polling we have and again, this is coming -- in it does seem at least more populawith the american public than members of congress. one recent poll from data from progressfound 66% of all

amicans support the u.s. calling for a cease-fire, with 80% of democrats supporting the cease-fire, along with 57% of independents and 56% of republicans. political reportstoday that former aides to kamala harris's 2020 presidential campaign are collecting signatures for a letter urging the vice president to seek an immediate cease fire between israel and hamas. the biden administration, for its part, has consistently pushed back on calls for a cease-fire. it's also clear that either because of the domestic politics or, i think, obviously more likely, the sheer spectacle and scope of the destruction in gaza, or both, the line from the white house, from the biden administration, has changed notably and considerably since the very start of the conflict, back on october 7th. as the new york times writes, in the first days after the hamas attacks, mr. biden drew prai f his unreserved support for israel, but is israel began poundingza from the air in preparation for a ground invasion that began in earnest over the weekend, biden se into a pattern of delivering increasingly

critical messages to the israelis, in private first, and then in public. in an oval office address, biden warned that while he understood israel's need for justice, it should not let -- be, quote, blinded by rage. last week, president biden called for a temporary humanitarian pause to allow more aid into the gaza strip. over the weekend, u.s. national security adviser jake sullivan stress that hamas is practice of hiding behind civilian populations does not absolve israeli defense forces from the duty to protect those same civilians. >> hamas is using civilians as human shields. that creates an added burden for the israeli defense forces, but it does not lessen their responsibility to distinguish between terrorists and innocent civilians, and to protect the lives of innocent civilians as they conduct this military operation. >> just today amid the protests inside the senate hearing, secretary of state anthony blinken offered this message. >> i also hear, very much, the passions expressed in this room

and outside this room. all of us are committed to the protection of civilian life. all of us know the suffering that is taking place, as we speak. all of us are determined to see it and. >> joining me now is democratic congressman, then goldman of new york. congressman, i believe i'm not mistaken, i think you are in israel when the actual attack happened. you've been very vocal in your support of israel's objective of eradicating hamas or getting rid of leadership and then defending themselves. you've also called for, i believe, a humanitarian pause. i'm curious how you think of what that is and what it means. >> well look, i think a cease-fire is misapplied here. i don't actually quite know what it means. certainly, hamas, as you mentioned, continues to fire rockets. they continue to hold 240 hostages, including 31 children

as young as nine months. they have done nothing other than to butcher and slaughter and rape and torture israelis, to indicate that there is any reason -- interests of theirs in peace or a cease-fire. and let's remember there have been many cease fires between israel and hamas over the years, and there was one on october 6th. and on october 7th, hamas broke that cease-fire. and what is important about that is that you have to recognize that hamas is a terrorist organization, it does not represent the values and the freedoms of the palestinian people who live in gaza. so, hamas is not only a threat to israel's peace and security, it's a threat to the gazans peace, security, and prosperity. and so, the need to eradicate hamas is there not only for

israel, it's there not only for the world, as a terrorist organization, but we need to do it also for the palestinian people. and that is why we have to recognize this is a war against hamas, it's not a war against the palestinian people. >> so, i guess the next question is, what level of destruction and death makes that calculation change? i mean, i understand lots of folks are understandably skeptical of any hamas lead agency that does administrative health, but i think all indications we have so far is that there's just enormous human suffering in gaza. thousands of civilians have died, today, the strike at the refugee camp seems sort of like a perfect example of precisely the sort of situation. the idf says there were tunnels underneath a top hamas commander. in fact, someone active in planning october 7th. they struck, they see that struck that complex, and struck the tunnels beneath it. but there were buildings above it and there were clearly civilians in those buildings, clearly some of them are

injured and some of them died. is there some level at which it becomes untenable to continue at this pace, if another 10,000 people lose their lives or 20? is there a limiting condition? well >>, it's absolutely devastating and heartbreaking to see the innocent lives that are perishing. all lives are equal and it's as devastating to see the palestinian deaths as it is the israeli deaths. we have to look at what the rules are for armed conflict. hamas does not play by the rules. they obviously put their military structures and infrastructure under hospitals within the civilian population. when israel warns palestinians to leave, particular targets, or to evacuate, hamas is well known to discourage them or even prevent them from doing it because their strategy is this propaganda strategy to use the

civilians as human shields. and i agree though with jake sullivan that that is not sufficient to absolve israel of its obligations, to do everything it can to protect the innocent civilians. and you know, a lot of it comes down to the fog of war. if it is true, as israel claims, that there are those were military targets, that they were masterminds behind it, if israel did provide some degree of warning and they have been pretty consistently doing that, even though it's to their military strategic detriment, then they are abiding by the laws of our conflict. and this is a war that hamas started, so there are, unfortunately, going to be deaths. the question is, what efforts is israel taking to do everything that it can to protect innocent civilians while also executing its military strategy? and that is where the, we really need to focus. >> yeah and again, it's a grim

calculus here and it's a hypothetical, but i do just want to push on this because i think it's actually relevant to broadly domestic u.s. public opinion, broadly opinion across the world, the way that international actors will work, which is, if there is a process here that appears defensible to your mind, and i'm not saying whether it is or not, but a process that's defensible, i still wonder, is there some limiting condition, right? like, if this goes another six months at this pace, like, is there some point at which it just seems that the costs can't be supported? because it seems to me in the abstract there must be, right? can you imagine coming to that point? >> well, i think part of the problem is that you're looking at the calculus from the wrong way. if hamas does not want its citizens or itself to die anymore, then it should turn over the hostages and it should surrender its weapons. no one's asking or calling on

hamas to do much of anything to help the palestinian people and i think that the responsibility goes far beyond israel. it does include israel, but it also goes far beyond israel and it goes to egypt, and it goes to hamas, itself, which siphons off fuel and electricity, food, and water from its own people. and that is a very important aspect of this because my sense is this would be over a lot faster if hamas would give over the hostages. why are we not talking about the fact that there are 240 hostages that they continue to hold? >> no, i mean, i couldn't agree more. i think morally, there's just no question. i mean, they just slaughtered men, women, and children in their sleep, so i don't think like anyone has any delusions about them as an entity, right? to me, the more the question is the leverage, right? i mean, if the u.s. had leverage to get hamas to release the hostages, it would be insane for us not to use that, obviously. it's just that it doesn't seem like we have a ton of that,

right? i mean, the asymmetry here isn't so much a moral asymmetry, as just an asymmetry of other relationships are with the two combatants in this war. whatever you think about the do combatants, like i don't disagree with you. i am just saying yeah, if we could control what hamas did. that would be a very different world. but that is not the world we live in, right? >> yeah, but we can't just accept that as a given and therefore put all the responsibility on israel to do everything, many things that hamas should be doing. and israel absolutely must abide by the laws of our conflict. they must abide by international humanitarian law, they must ensure that food, water, and medical supplies, and shelter, gets to those people who have been evacuated. because of israel's war effort. but hamas also needs to take responsibility for its own people. unfortunately, it has siphoned away billions of dollars designed for the gazan people for its own terror network and

intricate tunnels where they are now keeping the hostages, and now using the fuel and the electricity that is much needed by the civilians. so, i'm not saying israel can do whatever it wants. obviously, it has to abide by the laws of armed conflict, but there is no metric here where you say, oh, the laws of armed conflict only apply of until 10,000 deaths. after that, you know, and so we really do need to look at the facts on the ground and make sure that israel is providing, is allowing that humanitarian aid to get in, is doing what it can to warn and protect the civilians, and that is what their obligation is. if hamas persuades the civilians to stay and not to evacuate areas that israel has told them that they will be bombing, well, that's not israel's fault. and so, part of this is yes, there is an asymmetrical moral high ground here, a moral clarity as to who is willing to do what, and obviously, hamas

is at the, very bottom. they are subhuman, what they did to the israeli civilians. but that has to also factor into the calculus. so, when you are seeing israel has a right to defend themselves but we need a cease fire, well, how are they able to then defend themselves? they've declared war because hamas started this war. how can israel defend itself if you're saying oh no, no, you know, you can't possibly continue a military operation to get your own hostages back? certainly, no one said that after 9/11. no one said that after pearl harbor. and i think that's important to keep in mind. >> all right, congressman dan goldman, the congressman from new york, thank you so much for your time tonight sir, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> joining me now is waleed shaheen, democratic and progressive strategist, he's worked for the progressive democrats and been working with people in that caucus of house democrats calling for a cease-fire. tell me first of all about what the status of that is within the democratic party right now, how would you characterize it? >> i think the movement is

growing in the public and there are a number of sponsors, 18 sponsors for the cease-fire resolution, the collision that's going, it's multi faith, multi generational movement. we also have a number of people such as the congressman calling for a humanitarian pause, which i think is a step forward in a step closer to cease fire. i think in a couple days, couple of weeks, you will start to see more members of congress calling for both humanitarian pause and the cease-fire. but yeah, i think the vast majority of democrats are still stuck on representative goldman's talking points, which are essentially an argument for war. i was very disappointed to hear the representative comments just, now these are the same comments made about why the u.s. had to occupy afghanistan, occupy iraq, with no endgame insight. there is no plan for what to do after hamas is obliterated at all. and i think comments like the one the representative just

made, there is no plan and no end to how many palestinian civilians or israeli civilians have to die, or until democrats start to, say members of congress or to say, it it's enough. and everyone know there is going to be a point where we will say it's enough, because every time the israeli, says as the israeli government says, not -- gaza is the longest -- in gaza, there is a cease-fire in gaza, is just a matter of how many people die until nine. >> i think the stated goal of the israeli defense forces in this is not to quote unquote mow the lawn, but get rid of hamas, they viewed in those terms. yeah, sorry. so, first of all, and second of all, it seems like the lack of a plan sort of goes in both directions, which is to say a cease-fire is a thing you do tomorrow. but two people that say hamas needs to -- it is intolerable to allow them to continue to go as they are

right now, what is the response to that? >> i think it's a great question. i think we have a government in israel that has never empowered the palestinian leadership in the west bank to actually reach a settlement, a final status settlement about what to do with the two state solution. we have a far-right israeli government that opposes palestinian statehood very openly. so the united states must use its financial diplomatic ally, the ally we fund, to put pressure on them to empower the secular authorities in the west bank who have been the leadership of the palestinian people, but have never been empowered to actually be at the same table and negotiate in recent years with the israelis. we've gone further and further from a two state solution, as netanyahu and this government expands settlements. i don't think hamas should be in power, come back with any army capability in gaza.

but there does need to be a diplomatic settlement. the idea that there is a military solution to hamas and to the israeli palestinian conflict is absurd. we have tried that, every four years of the past two decades, we have tried a military solution to hamas's rise in gaza. and it has never worked. we have actually -- in afghanistan just recently, we've had the previous, this president, president biden, and president trump negotiate with the taliban, who are equally if not more horrendous than hamas. but because we saw that there was no military solution to what was happening in afghanistan, we have empowered diplomatic efforts to try to end violence. that said, i just don't think that member some congress, many of them, don't see our accountability greater than the country we, fond. >> think you for your time sir, we appreciate it. coming up, donald trump and his three eldest children are set

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doing, you see the checks, you see the wire transfer, you wonder why the grandchildren are getting checks in the chinese government. those are all reasonable questions. and yet, no one asks them. our mainstream media, the

people in d.c. unwilling to ascot. but i want to throw trump in jail for 1000 years and or the death penalty. it's truly sick, but this is why we fight. >> that was donald trump's son, don jr., giving his attempt at a rendition of a coherent argument last night on newsmax, having a little trouble, -- death of donald trump, he said. but there's no evidence of secret tracks, wire transfers to biden's grandchildren, flatly false. the people in d.c., presumably prosecutors, trying to traverse criminal cases want to hand the president his death penalty. not true. nevertheless, that guy, that incredibly adapt but rhetorician, don junior, who's been making the rounds on media, spewing false claims rather incoherently, that dude is scheduled to take the witness stand tomorrow in manhattan in a courtroom. so i want to tell the whole truth as part of the 250 million dollar civil fraud trial lawyer he, his father,

brother, and other trump executives were already found liable of frontally inflating the value of assets. the non jury bench trial will determine the amount of the damages. donald junior's brother eric will also take the witness stand likely on thursday, but it could happen as soon as tomorrow. next week, donald trump himself is set to appear on the witness stand, as well as his daughter ivanka. barbara mcquade is a former attorney for the new york eastern district, msnbc legal analyst, and she joins me now. let's start here. it's sort of while the family is going to sit for this. i guess the first question is obviously given the absolute constitutional right against self incrimination under the fifth amendment, that can be invoked at anytime, even in civil impeding's. we saw it during some of the questioning of the general sixth committee testimony. do we have any anticipation that any of them will invoke that right in their testimony in this civil trial? >> yeah, chris, i think it's

quite possible during their depositions, donald trump in eric trump invoked their fifth amendment rights against self incrimination in this case 400 or 500 times. >> crikey. >> as you point, out there is no criminal exposure in this case because it's a civil case. but of course, anytime you see some thing under oath in court, it can be used against you anywhere, including any subsequent criminal prosecution. so that's why it might be something that they want to do rather than the line to commit perjury or say something that might expose themselves to criminal prosecution. but one thing that's really different in a civil case from a criminal case, where the fact finders instructed that you may not use against a person in any way the fact that they've invoked their fifth amendment right against self incrimination. in a civil case like this one, the fact finder, judge engoron, can use the fact of the invocation of the fifth amendment as an adverse inference against the person who cited it. so if someone says a question, and they say i invoke my fifth amendment, the judge can say no, i guess that answer would've

been pretty bad. so that's the consequence in a civil case like this. so a lot of strategic decision-making that will need to take place by the trump children. >> yeah, that's a cruel -- that's a crucial difference i want to stay on it for a second. in a criminal trial, you cannot and its bedrock important part of american jurisprudence, you can't put someone on the stage, and be like, did you do it? and they say i take the fifth, we'll, see, you must have been behind. in a civil context where there is not the states criminal apparatus hanging over someone, the invocation of the fifth can be understood as an adverse admission of something or at least taken as -- you can make an inference about what the answer would've been. in this case, it's the judge would do so. >> yeah, that's right, because there's no jury in this case. it's a judge, just a fact finder. and sometimes judges are able to compartmentalize a little better than juries are so maybe this judge just disregards it.

but in a criminal case, all that invocation of the fifth amendment is done offstage, outside the presence of the jury, a defendant's asked whether he plans to testify or not testify so that the jury doesn't see that awkward moment where the defendant invokes the fifth amendment right against self incrimination, they simply don't take the stand, and they're instructed to not hold it against the defendant in any way. in a civil case, not so much. the person comes on the stand, they may answer a handful of questions, they may invoke the fifth against a handful of questions. it may be one question, it may be many. but the judge is free to draw the difference. >> yeah, our understanding is that don junior is expected to be grilled by lawyers from state attorney general letitia james office in his involvement in and knowledge of financial statements the attorney general says were grossly inflated. that's the topic of that question, and we're going to have to all stay tuned to see how they handle it, whether he tries to defend himself, whether he pleads the fifth or does some combination of the two, it'll be very interesting to see how they make those

decisions. barbara mcquade as always, thank you very much. >> thanks, chris. >> when we come, back hamas says it may release more foreign hostages in the coming, days even as it continues to release videos of those held captive for propaganda purposes. the man who until last month lead u.s. hostage rescue efforts for the u.s. government joins us next to discuss. joins us next to discuss (♪♪) honey... honey... dayquil severe honey. powerful cold and flu symptom relief with a honey-licious taste. because life doesn't stop for a cold. dayquil honey,

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hostages remain in gaza after hamas's deadly attack rose to 230. 33 those hostages are children, like these three-year-old twins, emma and julie -- who were captured with their parents and other relatives on october 7th. one of those relatives, daniel maloney, is the woman speaking in this propaganda video that hamas released this week, calling on israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to secure their release. it's not clear if her remarks were free, or if she's allowed to speak -- she's under hamas's hostage. that video comes as amos indicated todayth would free some hostages in the coming weeks. a spokesperson for the group said the group will release a number of foreign nationals is holding hostage but it's not clear when or how many people will be free. that comes amid news that idea soldier or make a dish has reunited with her family. she was rescued by the israeli military during that ground operation in gaza that's hard

five days ago. she is one of a handful of people that's free since the start of the conflict. judith renin and daughter natalie were the first americans released, after qatar broke or no negotiations. three days leader, norrie cooper and -- lipschitz was released in a prison -- cutters in a position to lead these negotiations as it closes hamas's political bureau and a u.s. political base. and assigned that negotiations could be reaching another phase, axios reporting today that israel said the head of the mossad, its national intelligence agency, to qatar to meet with senior security officials to secure the release of more hostages. chris so leary is the former directly of u.s. hostage rescue, and he joins me now. it's great to have you here in new york. >> good to be here, chris. >> so, just take me through, a ground level, because you've got the israeli government saying hamas is equivalent to i.s.i.s. and the nazis and

reeling from this brutal murder of its citizens. they have 248 israelis and other nationals. the head of mossad is in doha, and he is not going to negotiate with them? like, how does that work? >> well, they have to do, because they have limited options otherwise. although they did have a successful rescue as parlor ground operations, i think as we get the full story on that is probably not one of the hostages held by hamas, but more likely either palestinian islamic jihad, which i still don't think that would've been the case or maybe one of the disparate affiliates. hamas has been trying to seize control of all the hostages. so as the ground operation was ongoing, there are opportunities to maybe get some of the folks that are more accessible. >> that is interesting, okay. >> but that's not to say they won't continue to try to collect intelligence, illuminating the network, try to find where the hostages are

and seek opportunities to recover. at the end of the day, the special operations and intelligence forces that do the hostage rescue and recovery of the top here. they are problem solvers. they are not wishing for an environment that is ideal. they are working within the confines of what they've been. given and they will try to find solutions. and i have every confidence that they will continue to work on this. but what the mature approach is to also try negotiate at the same time, understanding that you don't have a legitimate partner in the negotiations, it's hamas, they are a terrorist organization. palestinian islamic jihad is a terrorist organization, which many people don't know is borne out of egyptian islamic jihad, we're all muscleman harry is one of the founding members of. so understand what we're dealing with. these are's limits who just carried out on october 7th a horrific attack. they are not rational actors in this negotiations.

they are taking steps to be manipulative. each and every member that they may, releasing the video of the hostages yesterday for propaganda was to pool leverage back to their side. >> yeah, it also strikes me that you can be manipulative and rational. there is some back and forth here where for the negotiations even to exist, there is some conception that the other side has some interest and you have some interest, and you can find some way that they're mutually recognizable, such that peoples lives are spared. that's basically the goal here. but in terms of how they actually, happen the head of mossad isn't sitting down with someone with hamas, right? >> i would find a very unlikely, although there have been times in the past were israeli intelligence has been face to face with members of hamas and other palestinian groups. so it wouldn't be out of the question. i'd say it's most likely they are not to use the qataris as an intermediary. i have been involved in talks

in doha, where all parties have sat around the table. but with the current situation, the current sensitivity, i think it would be unusual that we see the actual head of mossad across the table with hamas leaders or someone else. >> as someone who is done this work, i guess it's a suggestive question, but i think it's so critical to think about those folks being held captive, like, what hope do you have for more hostages being released? >> i think it's very likely. i think it's going to be done overtime. hamas is not going to just open up the gates and let everybody free. hamas will likely, as is being reported, released some of the international victims, but not all of them. anybody who is a dual passport holder from certain countries, my assessment is they would hold on to them, because again, it gives them leverage, they're able to manipulate the environment later for longer. but i do think that getting

more international support and some of the leverage back on their side, they will release some. but this is going to drag out overtime. and those israeli military members in uniform could be held for years. >> the idf salute was taken by hamas and held for many years before he was released in that prisoner swap. >> on 9/11, yeah. >> chris elyria, thanks for being here. >> coming up, stars of david graffitied on the streets of paris, disturbing pogrom-like scenes in russia, the disturbing spike in anti-semitic scenes around the world, that's next. that's next a dog walking business. oh. [dog barks] no it's just a bunny! only pay for what you need. ♪liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ in lieu up to the holocaust or

not the party order graffiti like this, what you see, there of the jewish symbol star of david to be plastered over jewish shops and homes, singling to his people up to terrify them. these voters are from 1930. eight this is footage out of paris, france, overnight, around 60 stars of david respray painted around buildings in the southern district of paris. authorities in france do not know who is responsible or with their motives were, but given the history of the symbol, the act is being investigated as a potential hate crime. since hamas's attack on israel october 7th, some 850 antisemitic acts have been reported to the authorities in france. as of this sunday, france has

made more than 400 arrests for antisemitic acts. the rise in antisemitism around the world since s tack on israel is undeniable. we havese synagogues defaced. just tonight cornell university student was arrested, charged after allegedly posting threats onli tt he would shoot up universities kosher dining hall. k dt, when the a roll junior at cornell, algedly posted messages online threatening to stab endsth the throat of jews on campus, among other threats. scheduled to appear in court tomorrow and faces up to five years in prison. the october 7th attack itself was the worst massacre of jewish people since the holocaust. the terror inflicted from that attack is not just the barbarism that happened that day, but the reawakening of the deep cultural trauma of the kinds of attacks jewish people have faced for centuries. this weekend hundreds of people stormed an airport in dagestan, in southern russia, and they held signs that reportedly said

things like we are against jewish refugees, and there is no place for child killers in dagestan. this is after reports of an inbound flight from israel. they pushed past security, they went on to the tarmac, they were looking what they believed to be was a plane filled with juice from israel, a plane that social media posts singled out and urge them to confront. full mob scene. thankfully, they did not find what they were looking for, but still at least 20 people were injured. dozens more were arrested. this event in dagestan has been called a lot of different things, but a protest riot, a mob, but there is the specific word for exactly this kind of ethnically targeted violent mob behavior, ar against jews, particular against jews in russia, a pogrom. before the locat, the worst series of hundreds of massacres or programs carried out by the russian empire in europe that killed tens of thousands of jews over a series of decades.

some of the images we are about to show you are pretty disturbing. so if you like to turn away now you can do so. we've also blurred some of the faces to make these images less graphic. but the horrific nature of these events are a part of this history. i don't want to obscure that. like what happened in dagestan this weekend. pilgrims were often mobs of civilians, jammed up on some paranoid antisemitic media, who sought out jews specifically to punish them collectively, for decades. jewish people had their homes destroyed, property, stolen families moved murdered, just because they were jewish. there was always some conspiracy title, it like when russia's blamed choose for the fascination of the russians are in 1881. there's also a deep-seated prejudice against jewish people that makes scapegoating light like that tragically easy. there is now a tragic and engaging servant of evidence around the world that this is still the case.

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requested 105 billion former aide foreign aid package for congress, newly minted republican house speaker mike johnson came back with the stand-alone measure to provide funding just for israel, tony splitting off ukraine, even taking a step further by cloying back that same amo from irs funding provided by a landmark piece abide legislation, the inflation reduction act. speed johnson promoted that planet interview with fox news today. >> do you think that will drive away some democrats, in the senate, even, or in the house? >> it may, but my intention is to call leader schumer over into have a very direct and thoughtful conversation about this.

i understand their priority is to build up the irs, but i think if you put to the american people, and they weigh the two needs, i think they're going to say, standing with israel protecting innocent people over there is international interest and is a more innocent need than irs agents. >> as you might expect, leader schumer's not having that. as for a senate republican leader mitch mcconnell so far, he is not giving speaker johnson stand-alone plan much encouragement either. >> their price for helping israel and abandoning americas responsibilities around the globe, making it much easier for the ultrarich to cheat on their taxes. how the heck could that be their highest priority? it's only when the hard right governs the republican caucus. >> in order to make a law, now it has to be signed by the president and pass both bodies. we'll see if the bill comes out of the house, and if so, what kind of margin it has. >> this is speaker johnson's

first major legislative move. the first big task. it shouldn't be a difficult one. and yet, former congressman from pennsylvania, served six terms in the house 2005 2018, and he joins me now. while first, there's a lot here that's wild to me. number one, that usually emergency spending like this, you don't offset or have pay for's four. secondly, this isn't a pay forward, is gonna cost deficit more because you get back last text tax revenue. and furthermore, it just seems like delay. what do you think of this is a first deal from speaker mike johnson? >> a simple sop to the hard-liners within the conference. so the attempt to passable a vote like, this they're going to send, it'll strip it out, it will strip out the pay for, and then the live funding for ukraine, the border, and disaster cisterns in the likelihood and that's what will happen, i suspect. i would not have launched this way.

they don't have a lot of time to be messing around with these things. i was on the appropriations committee, and you need a bipartisan consensus in the house, and senate will need 60 votes to pass. the house will probably get jammed at the end of the process. >> that's what i think, as well. here's my thing. so they pass this, they send it to the senate, they get jammed by the senate. at some point, then what happens? does mike johnson bill bring that bill to the floor? and you're just going to pass it by and house republicans say that's fine, we knew where this would end up? or is there another rebellion? >> look, i suspect speaker johnson is going to have to bring up the senate bill. if he doesn't bring up the senate bill, you'll have to shut down. you'll have a shutdown. i also get the sense that many of the hard-liners who took out kevin mccarthy might be willing to give mike johnson some slack

on his first continued resolution to fund the government. what i'm curious to see is just how long they want to pass this continuing resolution for. i suspect the senate would like to pass it into december. i get the sense that speaker johnson is talking about passing it into january or maybe even to april. so that's another bone of contention. but bottom line is, i think speaker johnson's going to be given some slack from his hard-liners, who took out kevin mccarthy, i think more for personal reasons than any policy matter. >> that's what politico is warning today, the most hard right members are willing to give johnson room to maneuver on the continuing resolution, given the short timeline and in his history as a conservative hard-line. another bit of news over the weekend, and it's funny because alternate universe would've been a big deal that we would've been covering a lot, which is mike pence's announcement that he's dropping out of the race for president. he was at a republican event in

vegas over the weekend. here's what he had to say. >> this is not my time. so after much prayer in deliberation, i have decided to suspend my campaign for president, effective today. >> were you surprised by that? what do you think of it? >> i'm not at all surprised >> i think he's right. this was not his time. and frankly, it's not his party anymore, either. nor mine, i should note. mike pence has run as more of a traditional socially conservative candidate in a party that really is very much more populist these days. when mike pence was at his prime, he was one of the leaders of the ideological purity police, who wanted to enforce certain amount of doctrine here thinking within the republican party, whether it was on abortion or gun rights or the economy. but since trump came on the scene, trump, we can say what

we will about him, he was not ideological or doctrine air. he was pragmatic to a fault. he had an fixed policy decisions and they shifted all the time. of course mike pence is just the opposite. fixed and rigid positions. that's not where this party is anymore. it's populist. and it's really more about anger than it is about any particular policy positions. it's more about eight outrage and grievance, frankly. it has been almost a policy free zone under trump. i think pence and some other candidates are trying to bring it back to policy. whether you agree with their policies or not. >> form republican congressman charlie dent, thank you for making time first. tonight that is a supervised double stuffed, all in, the last word with lawrence o'donnell, who i don't get to see very. often starts right now. good evening lawrence. n star>> good evening, chris. and welcome to the halloween jet-lag version of this. icac awaited on the way in here that actually took about