all right, that does it for me tonight. a special shout-out to the makeup room here at msnbc today. they had no idea that i was here and i walked in to get makeup done two minutes before the show, they had nothing prepared, they scrambled into action. they're amazing. you guys are absolutely freaking amazing. i'm sorry about the crosswires tonight. thank you for all you do. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is up next. aren't you guys tired of being here and having to cover all of these mass shootings? i'm from high land park, illinois, we survived a mass shooting over the summer.

i'm in tennessee on a family vacation, visiting my sister in law, i have been lobbying in d.c. since we survived a mass shooting in july. i have met with lawmakers, how is this still happening? how are our children still dying and why are we failing them? >> those frustrated comments came following yet another deadly school shooting in america. this time, it was in nashville. where three young children are among the victims. we'll have a live report from the devastated city in just a moment. these tragedies always bring gun legislation and proposals to ban assault-style weapons back into the spotlight but given the current balance of congress any meaningful action remains unlikely. good morning. welcome to "way too early." on this tuesday, march 28th.

i'm jonathan lemire. thank you for starting your day with us. we begin with the latest from nashville, tennessee. where six people including three children are dead following a school shooting that's left a community shattered and heartbroken. gunned down inside a covenant school, a small christian school. they were all 9 years old. 61-year-old mike hill a custodian at the school. cynthia peak, a substitute teacher and katherine koonct. the shooter was a former student, armed with two assault-style rifles and a handgun. joining us now live from nashville is senior national correspondent for nbc news, jay gray. jay, thank you for being with us this morning.

what more can you tell us about the shooting and the motive? >> reporter: you know, look, jonathan the location changed uniquely american tragedy does not. it's the covenant school this time. just behind us here. it's for kids from preschool to sixth grade. what was to be the last week of classes before their easter break. this morning instead of vacations six families from the school are planning funerals. >> under a mass casualty alert. >> reporter: shattered by gun fire, stalking the hallways of the covenant school with what appears to be an a assault-style rifle. >> multiple victims down. >> reporter: three 9-year-olds and three staff members murdered. as they were starting their day at the covenant school.

>> it's disgusting and -- yeah, i have no words. i'm just trying to process it all. >> reporter: investigators say the 28-year-old suspect killed by officers as they rushed into the building was a former student. >> resentment for having to go to this school. >> reporter: audrey hale identifies as transgender. part of manifesto uncovered by police who say the school was not the only target. >> there was going to be shootinging shootingings at multiple locations. the school was one of them. there was a map of the school detailing surveillance and entry points. >> reporter: now this stunned grieving community searches for a map of how to move forward. >> i mean, there's not much you can do as a teenager and i mean,

just as someone so small this this world but i mean, i can pray and i can bring flowers and i extend a hand of comfort. >> reporter: comfort that's so desperately needed here right now. a quick closer look at this school, it sits alongside covenant presbyterian school. only 200 schools enrolled. that's intentional accoring to literature from the school. clearly, they along with this community and the nation struggling and grieving right now. >> nbc's jay gray, thank you for being with us this morning. as the nation endurs yet another mass shooting it's crucial to recognize the number one cause of death for children is not car accidents, not

cancer, it's not any other form of disease -- it's guns. according to gun violence archive nearly 1700 young people under the age of 17 lost their lives in the over 44,000 act of gun violence in the year 2022. this epidemic of gun violence which has already resulted in a 131 mass shootings this year alone, appears to be uniquely american. compared to other western countries the united states is losing more children to guns by a massive margin. and since 2000 the number of children dying by firearms has skyrocketed. we have failed the children in this country. we'll have more on the nashville shooting as we move forward here on "way too early." another headline the manhattan grand jury considering charges against donald trump heard from a surprise witness today, a longtime ally of the former president.

for the second time in the case the former ceo of american media incorporate david pecker was called in testified. the parent company of the national enquirer. pecker already has deep ties to the case.nxsh-5.6.7 in 2018 the wall street journal reported that shortly before the 2016 election trump personally asked pecker to silence any women who might come forward with details of affairs with then-presidential candidate that included stormy daniels as well as pecker's company admitted to paying $130,000 in hush money to mcdougal to alleged affair with trump didn't

come forward. sources tell nbc news that the grand jury did not vote on a possible indictment of trump yesterday. the group is next scheduled to meet tomorrow. joining us now isuser anonymous gator and msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin. >> good morning. >> second time in front of this grand jury bringing back pecker now, what does that tell us about the investigation that d.a. alvin bragg is conducting? >> i don't know what it tells us about the legal theory but i think it tells us that the d.a.'s office is trying to take the sting of any impact that bob costello had. they brought michael cohen back in after costello said in my conversations with michael cohen he took full responsibility of

this. the other person who's in a position to rebut that is david pecker. there was a meeting between trump and pecker. it's detailed in american media's nonprosecution agreement the agreement that gave them immunity saying the three of them met in the august of 2015 and developed this catch and kill scheme whereby the enquirer would kill those stories in order to keep them out of the media. if there's anyone beyond michael cohen who can point to trump's personal involvement in this scheme directly david pecker is that guy. >> so, the fact that the witnesses are still being

called. potential time line. rumors swirling for a couple of weeks now that an indictment is imminent. >> i think we're within striking distance. but i couldn't say for certain and no one can that there won't be any further witnesses. david pecker was a rebuttal witness yesterday. two wild cards still outstanding. yesterday when members of the legal community heard there was going to be another witness, speculation centered on two people, one stormy daniels who's already met with prosecutors over zoom and second allen weisselberg, prosecutors have been hoping perhaps that in his term at rikers he might reconsider cooperating with them with respect to this hush money

scheme in exchan f more leansy with respect to other investigations. insurance fraud, bank fraud that was detailed in the civil complaint. whether he'll participate that -- i wish i had a magic 8 ball to predict that. >> you make a good point there. we really appreciate your analysis. lisa, we'll talk to you again soon. still ahead here, former president trump ramps up his criticism of florida governor ron desantis in a new interview. plus the latest from israel, as prime minister netanyahu pauses a plan to overhaul the country's judiciary. those stories and a check on sports and weather when we come right back.

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welcome back. as we turn to some of the morning's other headlines. a georgia judge is ordering the fulton county distribute attorney's office to respond by a legal motion from donald trump's legal team to squash the investigation. d.a. feigni willis until may 1st to answer the trump's teams. trump's lawyers filed the challenge last week. from further investigating allegations that trump sought to overturn the 2016 election. calls on the d.a. to throw out a report from the special grand jury on the case which reportedly recommended charges against multiple unknown individuals. a spokesperson for the d.a. tells the associated press

she'll respond to the order through court filings. meanwhile in an interview on fox news last night former president trump expressed his previous endorsement of ron desantis and whether or not the florida governor could jump in the white house race. >> ron came to see me, tears in his eyes, he said i need you to do me a big favor. i said, what's the favor? would you endorse me. i said let's give it a shot, ron. he was desperate. i gave him a great endorsement. i got him the nomination. by the way he would be working at a pizza parlor place or a law

office right now. ron desantis will you run against the president? he said, i have no comment. i have no comment. and i looked at the people i was with i said, that's not supposed to happen. he was losing. it was over. he was dead. he was going to drop out. he was gone. then, when they asked him if he's going to run he said no comment. a lot of people political people said sir, never bring that subject up. the voter doesn't care about that subject. i do. i think people do care about loyalty. when you help someone, then he announces that essentially he's going to run against you, he's going to run, he's getting crushed now in the polls. >> two notes on that, desantis had tears in his eyes and fox news ignored trump for months gave him an interview for the first time since the end of last

year protest leaders in i israel are calling for continued demonstrations despite prime minister netanyahu's move to delay at least for now his judicial overhaul plan. protesters want the prime minister to completely abandon the very controversial legislation. mass protests erupted across the country on sunday and continued yesterday after the israeli defense minister was fired for speaking out against the plan. the country's made trade union also went on strike, they end theirs after netanyahu's announcement yesterday. his plan would allow the government to select judges and overturn supreme court decisions, widely condemned by other democracies. still ahead, sports and a former nfling mvp is demanding a trade. also, we'll show you the strange interaction behind the plate that got a catcher ejected from a spring training game.

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the defending national champions south carolina stays unbeaten with a school record 36 wins. and they are back in the final four. >> clock running. sheldon can't hit the three. rebound, ohio state backed away and for the first time in program history, virginia tech is headed to the final four. >> the final four of the ncaa women's basketball tournament is now set. both top seeds prevailing last night, virginia tech stopped number three ohio state to earn its first-ever final four berth and number one overall south carolina extended its unbeaten streak with the win over

second-seeded maryland to reach the final four for the third time in a ree. the defending champs will take on second-seeded iowa. virginia tech will play number three lsu, both those games are on saturday. for a spot -- on friday, for a spot in final game. the nfl, former mvp quarterback lamar jackson said he's requested a trade from from the baltimore ravens. he represents himself. tweeted yesterday he asked for that trade back on march 2nd saying the team, quote, has not been interested in meeting my value. on march 7th the ravens placed the franchise tag on jackson. it gives the ravens to match any agreement he might make. he'll make $32.5 million under the tag this season. the nhl, another offensive

milestone in an already sensational season for the oilers superstar conor mcdavid. his league-leading point total of 40. the last oilers player to pull that off some guy named wayne gretzky. let's turn now the major league baseball and a bizarre ejection during yesterday's spring training between the philadelphia phillies and. he pulled it away as the umpire was about to drop one. it earned him an immediate ejection. the umpire believed the move was an intentional response to a

pitch clock violation. they would beat the blue jays 5-2. phillies has one final spring training game remaining before opening day. let's turn now to the weather and baseball's in the air but string not quite. >> it depends on where you are. temperatures are kind of mild in some spots across the country. we got a front that's impacting from louisiana stretching into florida with the potential of stronger storms through the day today. not comparable to what we've been dealing with across the south over the past few days. slow-moving front will bring heavy downfours and flooding in some of these saturated spots. the potential to see some strong wind gusts with that. not going to rule out hail or isolated tornadoes.

friday, if you live in any of these areas across the south, the potential to see possibly some strong storms and it includes already at this time 50 million people, if you're going to be out and about those areas on friday. in the west, rinse and repeat, heavy rain once again. we have additional snowfall and some gusty winds. mainly focused for northern and central california for today. by tonight that will work into parts of southern california and again we'll be looking at strong winds that could lead to some potentially downed trees and downed power lines. >> angela, thank you so much. next here, we'll return to our top story. we'll take a look at president biden's reaction to yesterday's shoot at a school in nashville. also, we'll be joined by white house principal deputy

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welcome back to "way too early." 5:30 a.m. on the east coast. 2:30 out west. president joe biden public addressed the nashville school shooting at the white house yesterday. using the moment to praise the police response and once again call for an assault weapons ban. take a look. >> it's just sick, you know,

we're still gathering the facts of what happened and why and we do know as of now there are a number of people who are -- who did not make it including children. it's heartbreaking. i want to commend the police who responded swiftly within minutes to end the danger. to do more to stop gun violence. it's ripping our communities apart. ripping at the very soul of the nation and we have to do more to protect our schools so they're not turned into prisons. so i call on congress again to pass my assault weapons ban and it's about time we begin to make more progress. but there's more to learn. >> president biden said since taking office has been renewing calls for the ban. even though with majorities in

both houses of congress democrats weren't able to pass the ban. biden with few options but the bully pulpit. karine jean-pierre told the press. >> he wants congress to act because enough is enough. in his state of the union the president called on congress to do something to stop the epidemic of gun violence tearing families apart and communities apart. how many more children have to be murdered before republicans in congress will step up and about to pass the assault weapons ban? to close loopholes in our background checks system. or to require the safe storage

of guns. we need to do something. once again the president called on congress to do something before another child is senselessly killed in a preventable act of gun violence. >> joining us now white house correspondent for "the new york times" michael shear. great to see you this morning. the politics of guns, president called for that assault weapons ban. last year after the uvalde school shooting there was a ban, what do you see now, any appetite for a small measure? short of that what can the president do by executive action in. >> yeah, jonathan, thanks for having me. i'm one of the skeptical ones here. the keyword in your introduction to this is the word "again" this has been happening over and over

and over again. i was covering the white house for almost 15 years. i've seen this play out over and over again. i was there when president obama reacted in tears to the killing of 20 small children in newtown and i was there months later when he got really angry when the congress failed to pass the background check bill. it seems like even if the slaughter of 20 children isn't going to move the congress to act it's unclear what will move them to act. gun control advocates i've talked to over the last year or so i supported what happened in congress last year with the modest changes. they hailed it and pushed for it. but they all know as does everybody on capitol hill what was done was minuscule response to what is a real ongoing

tragedy again and again. so i -- you know, they might take a couple of small steps again, although this year in an election year is unlikely but there is nothing that indicates that something like an assault weapons ban or a true universal background check bill is anywhere going to happen any time soon. >> only a matter of time before the country's next mass shooting. michael, let's turn to the events play out if israel. the prime minister at least for now has paused its effort for judicial reform. tell us about the role that the biden administration has had here. we had a sharply worded statement from the president in recent days. what pressure has the white house been putting on israel? >> yeah, you know, it's interesting.

there's kind a relation between these two subjects they both speak to the limits of the power of presidency. powerful position to be sure. leader of the free world. but in both cases there are sort of very distinct limits to what president biden can do and in the case of israel he can and has put pressure on the netanyahu government and netanyahu himself to pull back from the brink and as you're seeing on the screen now, the protests show how much pressure netanyahu is under from his own people but it's delicate situation for the u.s. and there's really very little direct intervention the president can and wants to do in another domestic affairs of another democracy. at the same time, the administration is mindful of how tenuous and kind of influx the whole situation in the mideast

is. you have iran and saudi arabia form closer relations, so the last thing the administration wants to see is upheaval in the last true democracy in that region. he's put pressure, made calls, issued a statement. >> white house correspondent for the "the new york times" times, thank you so much for joining us this morning. still ahead, we'll switch to business news and we'll be joined by cnbc for the latest headlines and an early look at the markets which are moving higher this morning. we'll get more on what drives the trading day, next.

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overall it seems like volatility has been done away or investors are hoping for anyway. the focus back on interest rates what the fed will do in terms of inflation. >> we've been talking a lot about banks in recent weeks, first citizen's shares rose yesterday. walk us through how that happened. >> yes, that follows first citizen bank having bought most of assets and deposits from silicon valley bank. which was placed in a small branch before it was then handed over to first citizens bank. the business is still viable. it makes a lot of sense. the markets still enjoying that news in fact and that share price going up 50%, gives you a clear indication that things are fairly solid for now anyway.

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welcome back. president joe biden is scheduled to travel to durham, north carolina, today to kick off his investing in america tour. during the visit, biden is expected to announce that over $435 billion in private sector manufacturing commitments have

been made since he took office over two years ago. over $200 billion in semiconductors. white house officials say the three-week tour will span out across 20 states and highlight the president's economic agenda. members of his cabinet also participating in that road show. joining us now is olivia dalton, good morning. thanks for being with us today. let's if you could tell us what we'll hear from the president today in north carolina. what's his main message? >> well, later this morning you'll see the president travel to durham, north carolina, where he'll be visiting a manufacturing company dedicated to building semiconductor chipts and they're investing $5 million. investing in their operations to expand and build semiconductor chips there and as you know

semiconductors are now required technology for virtually every piece of equipment in your house and your home. we'll be making those here at home, in durham, north carolina and across the country. a number of cabinet officials the vice president, the first lady, second gentleman and many others as we continue to highlight the kind of investment that's coming back to the united states as a consequence of this administration's economic agenda which is delivering results in building this economy from the bottom up and middle out and not top down. so that's today. tomorrow, the president will kick off the summit for democracy at the white house. it comes at an interesting moment, russia's invasion of ukraine continues. the president has framed that as a battle for democracy and these

protests in israel. the president sharply critical of the prime minister's plan to reshape the judicial there. >> this is the second summit for democracy we had. at least we convened 100 nations from around the globe. you actually heard the president preview his message when he visited ottawa last friday and spoke with justin trudeau the prime minister of canada all that we share to deliver results for people here and around shar democracies are working together to deliver results for people here and around the globe. that is going to be the major thematic of tomorrow. you heard the president talk about all the way over the past two years in which he's rebuilt our alliances and partnerships around the globe, worked to

rebuild democracy. he's now met with leaders from 80 countries around the globe. he's talked about how the united states is playing a leadership role in building upon democracy here and around the globe. he'll do that tomorrow. >> olivia, we, of course, have been speaking all morning about the deadly school shooting in nashville. we heard from the president yesterday about this. renewing his call for an assaults weapon ban. we know with republicans controlling the house, that seems all but certain to not happen. what are other additional concrete steps the white house could be taking? what, perhaps, executive actions are you guys exploring? >> well, let me first say that it is very hard to go through a day like yesterday -- and, unfortunately, we've been through too many of them -- without hearing this news first and foremost as a parent. you heard the president yesterday talk about the news like we saw out of nashville yesterday really being a parent's worth nightmare. it's certainly mine.

there are three mothers in nashville who did not have their kids come home yesterday. i think, you know, you've seen this president take incredibly strong action to address these kinds of shootings through the bipartisan safer communities act, which you know is the strongest bipartisan gun safety legislation in 30 years. nearly two dozen executive actions, including an executive order he just announced a couple weeks ago, expanding red flag laws, bringing us as close as we can possibly be without federal legislation to universal background checks. there's a limit on executive power. this president continues to call on congress to do something, to do more. you know, i appreciate that we're having this conversation because we need to keep the pressure on, but i really hope that every republican across the country who is standing in the way of an assault weapons ban, who is standing in the way of legislation to enshrine universal background checks, who is standing in the way of

requiring safe storage of guns, that they're asked today, why aren't they acting to prevent our kids from being slaughtered in school by these weapons of war instead of protected and being given safe spaces to learn. >> white house principal deputy press secretary olivia dalton, thank you for joining us this morning. we hope to have you back soon. up next here on "way too early," a look at donald trump's impact on the republican base. according to new polling, there seems to be just two viable campaign styles. always trump or sometimes trump. then coming up on "morning joe,," we'll have much more on yesterday's school shooting in nashville. tennessee state rep bob freeman, who represents the district, will be a guest. the mayor of nashville will also join the conversation. plus, white house press secretary kar i ne jean pierre will renew the president's push for an assault weapons ban. "morning joe" is a few short moments away.

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at "axios a.m." is axios senior contributor and the director of syracuse university's institute for democracy, journalism and citizenship, our friend margaret talev. what is the axios 1 wig big thi >> i'm going to do some math this morning. >> uh-oh. >> nothing good can come from this. it's the gop's incredible shrinking lanes. the latest polling now shows you that former president trump has more support among all of his perspective, would-be and announced gop rivals in the primary than all of the rest of them combined, including ron desantis. here's why that's important. you may be familiar with the expression, never trumpers, and you may be familiar with the concept of always trump. there is a third category that gop pollsters tell "axios" we should be watching, and that is the sometimes trumper or the sometimes trump gop voter.

who are they? they're people who actually went twice for donald trump but now think he is too focused on the past. that's where this math comes in. the trick to getting anywhere in the gop primary if you're not donald trump may be capturing that sometimes trump vote plus a slice of the never trump vote. that's what we're watching. >> all right. there's the polling on the republican side. let's talk about one on the democratic side. this is something the white house is grappling with, potentially. an enthusiasm issue about president biden. democrats who think he's done a good job but don't want to run again because of his age. for voters who say they would -- they would perhaps not vote for biden, or if biden doesn't run, they're not sure who to back in the democratic race. what do you think? >> yeah, i don't know is the most popular alternative right now among these voters. so this is a mass on the democratic side. new monmouth polling are finding, among

democratic-leaning americans, democratic-leaning voters, 75% have a favorable view of president biden. that's a good place to be if you're the president and you want to run for re-election. only 25% of the same set said they think that he should run again. so who should run in his place? more than half say, "i don't know." top backup choices, vice president harris, pete buttigieg, bernie sanders, elizabeth warren. it gets you below the i don't know threshold. it is good for joe biden in terms of reducing internal efforts as if there were going to be any. it is not great news in terms of enthusiasm. this is the imbalance you're seeing in the two potential primaries. they're not primaries, but the contests heading to the general. >> noteworthy for the vice president to not have that backing. margaret, lastly and quickly, new research found that sports are a great way to improve your mind. this bodes well for me. what can you tell us?

>> this is our colleague, kendall baker, who is all thing" this is the permission structural for the rest of march madness. view with impunity. new research out of england, surveyed about 7,000 adults. it finds that attending live sports events gives you higher life satisfaction numbers, lower loneliness, and increases the view that life is worth living. this is not just putting it on the tube but being in person watching sports. if all you have is the tv, go for it. it'll make you happier, according to the survey. >> pollsters clearly didn't talk to too many red sox fans when putting together those optimistic numbers. margaret talev, thank you very much. we appreciate it. >> thanks. >> thanks to all of you for getting up "way too early" on this tuesday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. three precious little kids lost their lives, and i believe three adults. and the shooter, of course, lost their life, too. it's a horrible, horrible