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tv   The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell  MSNBC  March 27, 2023 10:00pm-11:00pm PDT

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all, right that's gonna do it for me tonight. a special shout out to those in the makeup room at msnbc tonight. they had no idea that i was here. and i walked in to get makeup done two minutes before the show and they had nothing prepared they scrambled into action. and it had not look like i was nixon, buried and dug. up you guys are absolutely freaking amazing, i'm sorry about the cross why are's. thank you for all you. do, now it's time for the last word with lawrence or donald. >> good evening rachel. i could talk about -- every. night by the way -- >> we'll coworkers. >> just, by the, way he spent a little more than two minutes on me, okay? and in fact she has been adding
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minutes every year to how much time she needs to spend on me but i strongly recommend more than two minutes in the makeup room. >> yes. i, mean i need a lot more minutes with every passing year. i am eventually gonna need them to start with the snowplow when they start. seeing them react under pressure to how we have not prepared for this at, all we had no idea, will pull it together it really is plenty in their hands. we work with very, very amazing people and working on the stress makes them value the. more >> congress not here tonight because she had to run off but -- i mean i could go on with, this it is like watching a sergeant at work and rushing is not supposed to be part of surgery except emergency surgery, obviously. we saw just give her an extra minute. >> someday, lawrence you and i
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we will get together and we will do a horror franchise where we show people what we look like. >> no, we want. no we won't. nope. not going to do that. nope. >> and we'll have it radar. >> nope, we will not, no. >> fair enough. >> thank you rachel. >> thank you lawrence. >> thank you. well there is no one and i mean no one whose name has been more attempting to new york city's tabloid newspaper headline run than the man who testified to the manhattan grand jury today in the investigation of donald trump. he was the boss of the national inquirer who entered an agreement, conspiracy of sorts with donald trump. and donald trump's then lawyer, michael cohen, to bury stories about donald trump, especially stories about donald trump and women. it was what they call a catch and kill scheme at the national enquirer. the national enquirer would catch the story by paying a
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woman for the exclusive rights to her story about donald trump. and, then the national enquirer would never run that story. killed a story, catch the story, then kill the story. and the woman would not be able to tell her story to any other news organization because the national enquirer would own the rights to her story and then donald trump would reimburse the national enquirer for whatever that cost national inquiry. that was the plan. that with the scheme. that was the conspiracy. it didn't work out quite that way. when stormy daniels lawyer offered the national enquirer the rights to her story about one night she spent in a very brief sexual encounter with donald trump according to herstory. the boss of the national enquirer decided to just put michael cohen in direct contact with stormy daniels lawyer at the time so that donald trump,
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to michael cohen, could justify stormy daniels silence directly. that didn't mean that the boss of national escape to prosecutors attention. when they were prosecuting michael cohen for violating campaign finance laws and an attempt to affect the outcome of the election by making a 130,000 dollar hush money payment to stormy daniels three weeks before the 2016 presidential election. because silencing stormy daniels was beneficial to the trump campaign, to put it mildly. the $130,000 a violated campaign finance laws by exceeding the limit of campaign contributions and by not being reported as a campaign contribution. >> the boss of the national inquiry who was supposed to be the mastermind of the catch and kill scheme for donald trump was a man named david pecker.
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here is how the new york daily news greeted the revelation in court in the michael cohen case that david pecker was a witness in the grander investigation. >> there it is. that was the front page of the daily news when they found. david pecker was forced to go under oath in the stormy daniels investigation by federal prosecutors. tomorrow's daily news may have the headline of a similar spirit to convey the news that david pecker testified, today. to the manhattan grand jury that is investigating donald trump's involvement in the stormy daniels payoff. because reporters are sticking out the manhattan courthouse, they can usually see who is coming and going at the grand jury room. but they have no idea what the testimony in the grander room
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actually is. david pecker was reported of having testified to the grand jury in january in a moment we will be joined by former manhattan district attorney, assistant district attorney, who will share his invaluable insights as to what could bring a witness like that back to the grandeur. after michael cohen pleaded guilty to federal crimes in the payoff he arranged to the actress, dharmi daniels, he testified to house committee that the national enquirer had what he called a treasure trove. a treasure trove of documents about stories that the national inquirer killed for donald trump. >> you also mentioned that the president was very concerned about the whereabouts above these documents and who possess them. does that treasure trove of documents still exist? >> i don't know. i had asked david pecker for them. >> so, you would say the person who knows the whereabouts of these documents would be david pecker? >> david pecker, barry levine
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or dylan howard. >> the other two men worked for david becker at the national inquiry. donald trump spent the weekend lying about the manhattan district attorney grand jury investigation at a rally that attracted a much smaller crowd than trump pain rallies -- he said that the manhattan district attorney was working, quote, under the auspices and direction of the justice department in washington d.c.. of course, he called it the in justice department. that is a lie. the manhattan district attorney operates with a complete independents as does the justice department and they are both completely independent of the other. and their current investigations of donald, trump four and a range of crimes that he may have committed. donald trump harken back this week to his life before politics. telling following lie to the texas crowd. >> i was leaving this life.
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i didn't know what subpoena meant. donald trump has been hit with subpoenas in civil lawsuits virtually every year of his professional life. he has also been and issued subpoenas in federal lawsuits, has always -- virtually every year of his professional life. donald trump has had subpoenas flying back and forth in his life every year. donald trump's name had been on more subpoenas than any other president in history before he entered politics. and he has set a record for president and former president being subpoenaed since he entered politics. stephanie clifford has offered very detailed evidence including dialogue describing her evening in a hotel room with donald trump, she has described what he was wearing and what he wasn't wearing. stephanie clifford has quoted what donald trump said about how she reminded him of his daughter.
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that is, rally on saturday, donald trump offered a few words and i mean very few words of some sort of denial. apparently referring to what happened in that hotel room. here is a picture of donald trump and stephanie clifford, also known as stormy daniels. he said, in texas this weekend, that i never liked her. except, he didn't say her. he used a nasty term that he thinks is a clever insult about her looks which as that photograph proves, stephanie daniels -- stephanie clifford is a far more attractive person than donald trump. and then, donald trump said this. and, if you have trouble following this, remember, this is donald trump talking when he is trying to lie about his evening with stormy daniels so he struggles with each sentence or attempt at a sentence.
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this it what he said. he said, i never liked -- i never -- it's just not -- a terrible thing. that wouldn't be the one. there is no one. we have a great first lady, who people really do love. and, she has done an incredible job. not anything -- they have nothing. that's donald trump, apparently trying to say, as he has said before, that if he wanted to have an affair, it would not be with stephanie clifford. that wouldn't be the one, he set. and then he realized that some of the people in his texas audience might and still be conservative enough to think no one would be the one to have an affair with. and so, donald trump caught himself, and on the next sentence said, there is no one. and that's when the logic of
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what he was supposed to say, that's apparently what was in there. that's what he's trying to say. and the logic of that would mean that the next sentence would be, i love my wife. something like, i love my third wife and i have always been strictly faithful to my third wife in every sense of that word. but donald trump could not free himself to say any version of, i love my wife. something politicians usually find pretty easy to say no matter how true it is or isn't. instead of saying i love my wife, donald trump said, we have a great first lady who people really do love. and he didn't even bother to count himself among those people. and then he give his wife what donald trump thinks is the greatest possible compliment he could ever give a trump wife. she has done an incredible job.
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imagine? imagine you're donald trump's criminal defense lawyer, looking at the documentary of the hundred and $30,000 sent by michael cohen to stormy daniels, a lawyer, to pay off stormy daniels. and you're looking at the checks. donald trump wrote to michael cohen to cover up that payoff. and you imagine putting your client, donald trump, on the witness stand in manhattan, in his own defense. and then you hear him say to an audience of a few thousand trump fanatics in texas, that wouldn't be the one. meaning, i, donald trump, an expert on donald trump having a an affair, insisted you that's not a person donald trump would have an affair with. and then, as donald trump's criminal defense lawyer, you listen, hoping that your client donald trump can find a way of saying i love my wife.
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and he's never been under more public pressure in his life to say, i love my wife. and he cannot bring himself to say it. those words do not cross his mind. if you're donald trump's lawyers, and he is indicted in the stormy daniels case in manhattan, you know that your only chance of getting a not guilty with donald trump to put him on the witness stand to try to convince that jury that the only reason he participated in the stormy granules payoff scheme was not to hide stormy daniels story from american voters, a couple of weeks before they voted for president, 2016. it was only, only to spare the feelings of his third wife. the wife, who he said, people really do love. if you're donald trump's criminal defense lawyers, you know.
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that donald trump will not have an easy time canvassed-ing a man had injury about anything. including how much he loves his third wife. the one he says people really do love. leading off our discussion tonight is neal katyal, he's a former acting u.s. solicitor general an msnbc analyst. he is a former manhattan assistant district attorney. , and let me begin with you tonight with their expertise on the way things work in manhattan grand jury. what is your sense of the possibilities and why mr. pecker would return to the grand jury today. >> so, there is no question -- so there's no question that in a case like this, witnesses sometimes get called back. it is not unusual in a complex
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case to have a witness who, by media reports, testified at the beginning of the grand jury to come back at some point to add additional details as the case is evolving in the grand jury. and there isn't any question as you said in your read in that david pecker is a critical witness. he's a critical witness because he can cooperate, backup michael cohen and he's a critical witness because he sets up the district attorney is a looking for a falsifying business record charge. he steps up to the second crime that is yet to falsify a business record within attempt to commit another crime. and in this case that could be a violation of the -- and isn't any question that the car, according that to what has already been written and what the prosecutors in the federal case charge, there is no question that it is a critical figure in setting up protecting
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then-candidate trump from bad stories, initially and then specifically with respect to stormy daniels. so it is very possible and also as you alluded to in your lead in, that perhaps there is some additional documents they want to ask him questions about but in my mind there isn't any question that he is there to amplify, to hook to new york state election laws and backing up michael cohen. >> neil katyal, donald trump was just on fox in the previous hour with sean hannity. and he did kind of announce the defense on tv and what he was doing was quoting what michael cohen was saying about this before he got prosecuted by federal authorities and were forced to admit the truth. and of, course michael cohen began as part of the cover of us this for donald trump. so, donald trump's, saying in effect, i guess, in his defense what michael cohen said in 2018
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is what matters and nothing michael cohen says after 2018 matters. >> so, i think that there are a couple things about that. first of all i think the really bad news for donald trump, today, is that david pecker is testifying for the second time before this grand jury under and immunity agreement. which means pecker thought he was facing criminal liability. any cut a deal to say, don't prosecute me. i will tell you the truth. , now that agreement is only valid, lawrence, if the prosecutors feel is 100 percent told the truth through and throughout. and so that has got to worry him a lot and the support is not the first time that one of trump's associates has had to make the choice between reaching a non prosecution agreement with the government or facing criminal charges. and, frankly as trump legal troubles grow i have a feeling more and more of his allies are going to learn the art of the
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immunity deal. and the idea that trump will get on the air tonight and defend himself, as you are saying lawrence by replaying old michael cohen testimonies, a testimony that basically sends michael cohen to jail and calling that credible i think is a weird strategy. , remember cohen goes to jail and he goes to jail for these campaign contributions, effectively that would pay off to miss daniels. and i think the striking thing about that is that when cohen went to jail it was the justice department, the federal justice department that said that cohen was acting at the behest of someone called individual number. one which we now know not to be donald trump. and, so, that is why the testimony today of pecker is probably significant because pecker is the guy in the room with cohen and with the goal effectively with stormy daniels. and, he cannot only place trump
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as possibly being in that room, which is alluded to by federal justice department, sentencing memo. but also, he may be able to speak to the motive. why was trump paying off miss daniels and we know it's falsification of the records. that's a misdemeanor. the question is, was a felony committed? was he doing it to benefit this campaign? pecker is someone in the, room at the time who very well may know the answer to that question. >> then howard's, for the last 60 years when we first started to see mafia informants flip in trials and testify before the prosecution, we have seen coconspirators in crimes change their stories so that they would become prosecution witnesses. how then does the prosecution handle that in court where the jury is seeing someone who was telling the story a certain kind of way? but then has changed to telling
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it this way? >> great question and the prosecutors every day, and we all, know every day prosecutors take witnesses who flip, witnesses who have baggages, witnesses like michael cohen who have committed crimes and even admitted to committed crimes and they have to sell those witnesses to a jury. this is somebody notwithstanding saying, you can rely on. how could they do it? they do it with cooperation. they have other witnesses like david pecker. who would support the testimony. other witnesses, we know from media reports that -- testified in front of the grand, very -- testified in front of the gander. and one can assume that they were called to testify before the grand jury because they have testimony that support that backed up what michael cohen is saying. and, so to your, point earlier, to neil's point that trump claimed video from 2018 that is
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not going to help them with the jury because you're going to have -- and conway, david pecker, documents the, checks that were signed put in front of a jury and then the prosecutor is going to say in their opening and in their summation, ladies and gentlemen of the jury here at the top ten series why you can believe michael cohen and they're going to kick off every single piece of testimony and evidence that the supporting witnesses have provide. so this is not simply a case that i think the former president would like me versus this lying you know what, michael cohen gets a lot more than that. >>, and of, course neal katyal, it is hard to think of a witness who would have more credibility problems in a manhattan courtroom or any courtroom than donald trump. >> that's exactly right lawrence. so, when you said earlier in
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your set up to this to the segment that you thought that a defense lawyer would have to call donald trump to the stand i guess i have to beg to differ with you and i really do disagree with you lawrence but my judgment it would probably be professional malpractice to call donald trump to the stand. i, mean you know the guy can't say a sentence without some sort of finn, it's not right. lie and if you're talking about the credibility battle, even a credibility battle with the convicted felon, michael cohen, i don't think that it's close for a jury. and, so i think if you're the prosecutor right now, and they're worried about the credibility issues, you're, like bring it. on i will show my witnesses and my evidence against donald trump if the stories any day of anyway. >> neal katyal and dan howard, thank you very much for starting us off tonight. we have to reconvene at some point. just on the strategy point though. do you put donald trump on the witness stand in this case? because i don't see how you get
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a not guilty without the defendants testimony but then i don't see how the defendant walks out of the room without being charged with seven counts of perjury. so, it's a tough one. so we will reconvene on that one at another night. thank you very much for starting us off tonight. and, coming, up massachusetts's senior senator, elizabeth warren whose reelection campaign for a third term in the united states senate began today will join us next. fast with new flonase headache and allergy relief! two pills relieve allergy headache pain? and the congestion that causes it! flonase headache and allergy relief. psst! psst! all good! you can't always avoid migraine triggers flonase headache and allergy relief. like your next period. qulipta® can help prevent migraines. you can't always prevent what's going on outside... ...that's why qulipta® helps what's going on inside. qulipta® gets right to work. in a 3-month study, qulipta® significantly reduced monthly migraine days... ...and the majority of people reduced them by 50 to 100%. qulipta® blocks cgrp-- a protein believed to be a cause of migraines. qulipta® is a preventive treatment for episodic migraine.
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stricter rules on banks so that they don't crash -- >> joining us now in her first and national television interview since announcing her reelection campaign's democratic senator, elizabeth warren of massachusetts. to the -- housing and urban affairs committee. senator, thank you very much for joining us tonight in your first and national campaign appearance. i know that you're very much concerned with what the fed is doing these days and i would like you to get into that for us and tell us what you think the fed chairman should be doing. but, also can you convey your interest in urgency about the fed to voters? i have never seen a senate campaign used that productively as an issue with voters. >> so think about it this way >> the fed has a lot to do with basic security of our akana me. whether or not when you put
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money in banks you'll be able to get that money back out when he needed, and that is true for families, it's true for small businesses, it's true for nonprofit. it is true for all of it. now, the problem we have got is that the bankers, especially the big bankers, the ones with the multi billion dollar banks come to washington and say we can regulations. week in the regulations. following the crash in 2008 we tightened those regulations with -- but then it came back and they said we condemn some. aren't donald trump actually ran for president, telling the multi billion dollar bank that if people would elect him, he would weaken those regulations. he got elected, he then put regulators in place who had his same philosophy go light on these multibillion dollar banks. then he went to congress, and he said to congress, rollback some of the restrictions -- that's what happened.
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and then the fed chair actually used that opportunity to just open the door wide open. for these big banks that wanted to do three things, load up on risk, boost their short term profit and paid themselves enormous bonuses and big salaries. and, then blow up the banks. forcing the government to come back and back stop them. it is very, very important that we in congress could have stopped them. we got to tighten back on these banking regulations. and you are right, lawrence. this is a part of why i'm running for president. because i truly do believe that we need a government that isn't just there, to work for the rich and the powerful, for those who are well connected, for those who can hire an army of lobbyists, come to washington, get ruled in their
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favor. that we need a government on the side of the people. and i just want to say, anybody who thinks that's a good idea, i hope the pitch in ten bucks to elizabeth warren.com and help me run this race that a peoples field race instead of one that's all about lobbyists. i have seen federal reserve chairs justify to congress, especially the senate, countless times. and they always get a certain amount of awe as soon as they walk into the room. i know most senators regard them as financial wizards. i have never seen more affective questioning a fed chair then i have seen when you do it and i just want to share one interchange here with the audience by the fed chair's last testimony to your committee. let's watch this. >> fence the end of world war ii there has been 12 times in which the unemployment rate has increased by one percentage
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point within one year. exactly what you are aiming to do right now. how many of those times did the u.s. economy avoid falling into a recession. >> i think the number zero. i think the number is zero, that is exactly right. >> senator, i've just never seen the point made so well. i had nothing to demonstrate more clearly the riskiness that is considered standard fed policy. whether you like it or or not, in favor of it or not. it should be recognized as an extremely risky kind of policy involving real peoples lives. >> you know lawrence, you are exactly right about this. this is the part that drives home why banking regulation, why the ted, just families all across this country. right now the fed is on a tear on interest rates. it isn't just raising them gradually.
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it was making extreme interest rate increases, unlike anything we have seen in modern history. it has announced in its own bed reports that the intent of this is to increase unemployment by one point. that would mean this is just math. putting 2 million people, who currently have jobs, people who are making the rents, people who are paying their mortgages, people were putting food on the table, to push 2 million people out of jobs. that is the intent of the fed. here is the really scary part. they not only want those 2 million families to have to eat it. they also by history, are running the risk of throwing our entire economy into a recession. and another point i made later in that same hearing. it is about time that the unemployment rate has increased by a point within a year. it didn't stop at one point.
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and other words, 11 out of 12 times it becomes like a runaway train and unemployment keeps mounting up. i asked cher powell, what is your plan if that happens? the answer was, they don't have a plan. that is why they need to back off these extreme rights increases. that is what i am here fighting for. >> senator elizabeth warren. no one teaches us class better than you do. thank you very much for joining us tonight. please come back whenever you can during the campaign. >> i, will thank you. >> thank you senator. coming up. today's mass murder was in a private christian elementary school in nashville. six people were murdered including three nine-year-old children. david hogg who survived a mass murder at his high school mark from florida five years ago will join us next. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur.
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then the ambulance started. and that's when i heard it was a school shooting and there are no words. >> today's american mass murder at a small christian elementary school in nashville tennessee had to ar-15 style assault
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weapons. two of them. and a handgun. authorities say the people at least two of those weapons were purchased legally 14 minutes after the police arrived. they killed the murder but before that, today's mass murder ended six lives. three staff members were murdered, 61-year-old cynthia peak. 60 year old catherine koonce and 61-year-old, mike hill, the school's custodian. 39 year old children were shot to death and that school today. the only information publicly available, at this time about the children are their names and ages. i've learned that house was nine years old. alex bronx was nine years old. william kinney was nine years old. their lives came to an end today in the worst possible way. joining us now in sadness, once again, is david hogg the cofounder for march for our
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lives. he is a survivor of the school shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school in florida. david, there are about 200 kids who attend that school. all now traumatized survivors. what should their parents know they are going to be going through? fog >> that there is no amount of healing that gets you through this at all. it is much more than 200. the other people went through that experience it is about the millions of americans that are going to do this every single day in our country. and fearing for their lives. people of all ages. we are told time and time again oh, my god, these are people here to save us. my generation really messed up. we need the older people that have joined us to thank them but we need older people to join us stop just thanking us we need your help we need you
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to vote. we need you to turn out, show up, just a legislator. not just after the next part but to enter your own community plans here. we need you to show up before your community is the next one on and long and growing list of the communities affected by daily acts of gun violence and mass shootings in this country. at this point it is going to touch every single one of us and every single kid and every single parent in this country will be touched by gun violence unless we act proactively at state legislature every single year in every election in the ballot box. and show up. we need veterans to join us, we need teachers to join us, we need students to join us. we need people of all backgrounds. what we're doing right now, lauren, is frankly not enough. it is not enough. but i'm doing what each and every one of us is not working. just debating this is not working. we need to come back to original founding model. and remember that while we have disagreements as americans we have a shared set of principles that we are so clearly failing
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our children to live up to. the ideals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. how can we have life when our kids are living in fear and their class? hike we have the pursuit of happiness when ticket parents can be going to take tickets one day to be size for address and the next day we are size member a tiny casket. that is not the america that we have to live in and we need to stop accepting that its going with whatever the nra says every day. that is the reason we are here. we have to show up. this is a call to every single parents in america. and every grandparents. your child is in danger. your children need to. we can't save ourselves. >> david hogg, no one can say better, thank you very much for joining us again tonight. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. advanced hydration isn't just for kids. pedialyte helps you hydrate during recovery.
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the office president of the united states. you announced a reelection campaign for this senate today. and the middle of the interview you use the word president when he said you are a candidate for president, and here's a secret for the audience at home. i heard that word and i thought, a, it is hard to kind of get back in there with the ranch. the audience will figure it out. turns out on twitter not all of them have and so there are some people out there who are wondering if there might suddenly be a challenge to joe biden. you have the floor. >> no challenge to joe biden. thank you for letting me come back and revise. i really appreciate it, lawrence. but i also want to say it does give me a chance to say how really excited i am to support joe biden for president, kamala harris for vice president, they have done it extraordinary job
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over the last two and a half years and the direction they let our country. and it has been amazing. look at what they have managed to get done. the largest climate package in the history of the world paid for by a 15% minimum corporate tax. they have cut the price of insulin for seniors down to $35 they've gotten prescription drug negotiations in place for medicare. they have gotten us into infrastructure plan that's going to help us with roads and with bridges. they have done an amazing amount and president biden has been all the way into try to cancel student loan debt for those have been getting crushed. because the big fan was trying to get education they didn't come from a family that could afford to pay for it. i'm in this fight all the way with them. i'm honored to be running on the same ticket. i'm gonna go do everything i can to help them get reelected
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what i'm going to, i, hope to get myself reelected. because i do believe that we have a chance that when we stand together, when we fight together when we persist together that we can make real change and we can make this country work. not just for the rich and most powerful. that we can make it work for everyone else and i'm glad to have a chance to do this. >> you know senator when i was working in the senate the announcement that a senator was not running for reelection often made more sense to me that ready for reelection because i saw the job of close and i know how glamorous it isn't and all those 3:00 in the morning work sessions how much to do really, why do you want to stay at this job? >> because i can see real change. i can feel it. i've had it happen. i got through a bill on hearing aids that has changed the cost
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of hearing aids from thousands of dollars down to hundreds of dollars. that is going to make a difference in the lives of literally millions of people. who have hearing loss and who cannot afford what hearing aid used to cost. that is a big difference. getting in these fights all the way matters. the fight that i've been on the way hasn't really delivered as much as we should is the fight for childcare. here again i want to give credit to vice president harris, the budget they put together, they say it's time for us as a nation to make the investment in childcare to recognize that if we want mommies and daddies to be able to go to work that they not only need roads and bridges to get there and electricity and water when they arrive, they need access to affordable, safe, high quality childcare. that is a fight worth having.
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and right now i know it is tough out there. i guess how extremist republicans are. but the truth is lord you can also feel it. you can see the hope, you can see they are people who are engaged now. you can see people who say i have seen a difference that joe biden, that kamala harris, and i hope elizabeth warren have made in my life and i'm going to be in this fight because i believe we can make more change. senator elizabeth warren running for reelection to the united states senate. >> and it's all the way. >> joe biden kamala harris president vice president, elizabeth warren senate i am sorry for the trip but very pleased that you brought me back to let me correct the record here. i want to make sure no one is confused. >> now you know that massachusetts ballot it's gonna look like. senator elizabeth warren, thank you so much for joining us tonight, we really appreciate it thank you. we'll be right back.
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