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tiktok ceo told congress, this company is not a security threat to millions of americans or in the platform. well, congress isn't buying it. we are talking to some influencers about the potential ban. of tiktok and what that would exactly mean for them. in our celebrating her story series, we are talking to caroline o'connor, major league baseball's second highest ranking woman. i have something to say. former president donald trump has been taking hits on the legal front all week. he could be indicted in the next. yet again, there are concerns that the former president's incendiary rhetoric could be putting lives in danger. alvin bragg is investigating

former president trump. regarding a hush money payment. to stormy daniels during the presidential campaign. yesterday, bragg was the target of a death threat. brad received a letter that said, alvin, i'm going to kill you. an envelope with suspicious white powder, which was determined not to be dangerous. not to mention, there has been reportedly dozens of threats of harm against brag, hundreds of threat to the district attorney's office. this all comes as the former president had been ratcheting up his rhetoric on social media. writing, quote potential, death and destruction if he's charged with a crime. then adding, any prosecutor making that decision would be a, quote, deranged psychopath. and another now deleted post, trump showing himself images of himself with a baseball bat, near bret's head. trump has also called alvin bragg an animal. house minority leader, hakeem jeffries, is sending a warning. trump's attacks on social media or reckless. take a listen.

>> well, the twice impeached former president's rhetoric is reckless. reprehensible. irresponsible. it's dangerous. if he keeps it up, he's gonna get someone killed. >> everyone should be unsettled by the targeting of alvin bragg. i agree with leader jeffries. not to mention, the former president is literally calling for death and destruction. all of this as donald trump finally decided to give back on the campaign trail, holding the very first rally of his 2024 presidential campaign in waco, texas. it just a few hours. we're gonna dig into the significance of that place and that setting, and from donald trump's other mounting legal pressures in just a few moments. first, earlier today, i spoke with lanny davis, the attorney for michael cohen. cohen is a central witness to say the least, and the manhattan da of an briggs of estimation of trump's hush money payments.

here's our conversation. >> the a bragg has received at least one death threat that we know of, on thursday, the former president referred to him as an animal. i don't have to tell you about what that means, alvin bragg is the first -- black district attorneys, a black touch of kearney of manhattan. the president is also sending violence if he is in fact indicted. are you concerned? >> of course. and i quote my client, michael cohen, when he began his testimony, one of the first thing he said to me when we discussed my representing him. donald trump is a liar. michael cohen did his dirty deeds, and lied for him, for ten years. and he predicted, in front of elijah cummings, that mr. trump if he's defeated for reelection, would not accept the election results. and that is a dangerous man. so what is now doing, with mr. brag, is just consistent with

what we've seen. before for mr. trump. >> i think a lot of people should be vigilant about this rhetoric from the former president. let's talk about this upcoming week, on monday, the grand jury will meet again in the trump hush money case. as michael cohen been asked to testify or has he been asked to be on standby for the? >> i can answer no. certainly, publicly. on your show. the answer is, i've not heard a word. he can't testified without me. i'm in washington, i have to get on a train and get to new york. so, this is saturday afternoon, the answer is, not yet. >> not yet, we have a day. what do you know about the timeline going forward? if anything? >> i don't know a thing. i do know that michael has spent at least five sessions with very meticulous and very professional prosecutors, working for mr. brig. michael and i have only the

greatest respect for the detail, documentation, in many ways, do i deny the word documentation? that if this case goes forward, and that still it, this case is about documents, and indisputable facts. anyone who thinks it's a weak case, doesn't know what i know. >> so, mr. davies, i think that it is a fact that michael cohen has done a lot of television. we've invited him here on this program, we hope to see him very soon. for a lot of folks, his appearances have generated concern. that he could jeopardize the case. first, do you agree with that assertion? secondly, how are you navigating that? >> so, i don't agree even slightly, this case is about facts. i start by saying, don't worry about michael cohen a. he's proven that since july 2nd, 2018. when he broke with mr. trump, in what he said, were ten years

of doing his lies and dirty deeds, that's the way he lived for ten years. on july 2nd, 2018, he came out publicly and spoke truth to power. since then, he's been truthful. let me also remind you, donald trump's prosecutors, in the southern district of new york, on december 7th, 2018, published a memo to report, which they said, michael cohen admitted, meaning they have the evidence and he agreed, that donald trump, president of the united states, then, so they couldn't item, but before he was president, instructed michael cohen to pay the hush money. >> and that memo, they referred to him as the former president as an individual one in the memo. so, i have asked legal experts, journalists who have been covering this case for a while. particularly about that memo, i've also asked about the

juxtaposition between, i know your members of the case against senator edwards, where he paid he had supporters say 1 million dollars to someone. and keep their fair quiet. so that edwards was indicted, but a hung jury, and the department of justice eventually declined to drop the case. so, i have thought that there were very strong similarities, i think the point you're making about the memo, is a good one. this isn't a department of justice decided not to pursue former president trump under that particular case. do you have concerns, or do you agree with? i know already said this isn't a weak case, there are people that say, the department of justice wouldn't even take this up. now, after all this time, alvin bragg is taking it up. what say you? >> simone, first of all, on the strength or weakness of the case, and comparing it to the edwards case, that's what juries are for. is there a case that can go to a jury as to whether or not

there was any, any 1% political motivation when donald trump instructed michael cohen, out of his own equity line of credit, to pay $130,000? did trump have any political motivation, as the prosecutor say, that trump directed and that was the admission they got, michael cohen to admit to from the evidence directed cohen to make the payment. so, to your question, was there any political motivation by mr. trump to try to prevent the stormy daniels alleged affair, he denies, it to have any political motivation? that's a jury question. the edwards jury found, in a hung jury vote, we don't know how or why, that they were unable to reach a unanimous decision on that. and mr. edwards did have a dying wife of cancer, so, we don't know what happened in the jury room. my point to your viewers, simone, that's a jury question. the due process system gives

mr. trump the presumption of guilt, there is a trial, he gets a chance to put his evidence on. and then it goes to the jury, whether he had any political motivation waiting to right before the election, now, watching stormy daniels to go public. that will wait to see what a jury says. so, we can't know the answer, we will believe him in the jury system. >> michael cohen, former legal adviser robert costello, he said -- the grand jury at the request of donald trump's team this past week. he has said that your client is on a revenge tour. is mr. cohen seeking revenge here? given what you just said, i'm interested, what if the manhattan da decides not to indict mr. trump? then what? -- >> we will respect what the case is about, with the facts are about. let's just talk about mr. costello. i can't comment to you on what happened in that grand jury room, when he testified. i can only say we came and

waited for two hours, and case michael cohen was needed to contradict mr. costello. and we were told, he was not needed. secondly, in today's daily beast, mr. costello's emails speak for themselves. one email says, in an email to his partner, we need to keep up the appearance that we're trying to help mr. cohen. when mr. giuliani and the president don't want us to let on that what we really know is to keep him in the tenth. so, mr. costello is simply doing what trump always does, to deflect from the merits of the case, did trump commit a crime by instructing michael cohen to commit -- to pay the hush money. and then he wrote checks as a sitting president, for $35,000 a month, for 11 months, did he commit a crime? that's up to a jury to decide. and for mr. brag to decide, to bring an indictment. that's up to them. >> we will be waiting with bated breath, if there's

anything comes out of the grand jury on monday. lanny davis, thank you very much for your time, i appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> coming up on simone, at least 24 people are dead in mississippi and alabama, after a tornado ripped through the area. we're gonna get an update on the ground in just a few minutes. first, with potential charges coming, donald trump is ramping up the threatening language, paul butler is here to break down whether that could make matters worse for him. legally. that's next, folks. our dell technologies advisors can provide you with the tools and expertise you need to bring out the innovator in you. get help reaching your goals with j.p. morgan wealth plan, a new tool in the chase mobile® app. use it to set and track your goals, big and small... and see how changes you make today... could help put them within reach. from your first big move to retiring poolside

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as he faces a legal setback this week with the former president lashing out on social media. last weekend, trump made the baseless and inaccurate claim that he had effectively arrested tuesday, in connection to an investigation into a hush money scheme involving stormy daniels. it didn't happen. the new york rangers expected to reconvene on monday. meanwhile, in the investigation into trump's alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election, a judge has rejected claims of privilege, rejecting that some of trump's top aides, including his former chief of staff, mark meadows, must testify before a grand jury. then he added trump's lawyers, evan cochrane, testify in washington d.c. friday for more than three and a half hours before a grand jury investigating president trump's handling of sensitive and classified government documents

found at mar-a-lago. cochrane was forced to testify after the judge ruled there was sufficient evidence that he committed a crime, through his attorney to that case. this is a lot, y'all. joining me now, paul butler. he's a former federal prosecutor and an msnbc legal analyst. paul, this many places i could go, i want to start with alvin bragg. he is the first black da that manhattan has ever had. he's the first black da, he is the former president of the nsa to america calling him an animal. >> you know, people ask in all of these different prosecutions of trump and investigations that prosecutors coordinating. they're not coordinating, they're certainly paying attention. and i think when jack smith, the special counsel, hears president trump talking like this, and trying to foment the same kind of violence in new york that he tried to incite on january 6th and washington d.c.,

jack smith is paying attention. he's got this question about whether and what to prosecute trump for. if it seems like trump hasn't learned anything from the impeachment from all the fallout, that he still trying to go after folks and incite violence, i think that that matters to jack smith as much as it matters to alvin bragg. >> really, okay. you have president trump, not only attacking the manhattan da alvin bragg, he's also on social media calling for, quote, death and destruction. which is must stronger language than he's ever used prior to january six. i hear you say the jet -- other any other legal repercussions for that rhetoric? could a judge issue a gag order against former president trump? >> joe, if there is in fact an indictment in manhattan, this case will go to a trial judge, and then there will be more orders including a judge, very

quickly shutting down donald trump, if he tries to make any kinds of threats against the prosecutors. again, and some kind of organized crime cases and gang cases, cases with ordinary regular thugs if you will, it's not uncommon for defendants to make those kinds of rules, and judges don't like that at all. so, once this case, if it comes before the purview of a trial judge, then i would expect that this conduct from trump to be immediately -- >> what about the overall threats of the manhattan da's office, specifically dalvin brig, there's also reportedly hundreds of threats that have been lobbed at the office at large. how could this affect how the lawyers, the attorneys, in that building are going about their work? especially this particular week. >> you know, i was a prosecutor, you know that there are a lot of people who you are investigating, who are going to be happy with you. usually, nothing happens.

often, if they get mad that defenders get mad, they tend to get angry or a third of defensive attorneys they do it prosecutors. in fact, it's a violation of new york law to threaten a prosecutor. i think, right now, there's credible evidence that president former president trump has threatened alvin bragg. >> not to mention the president said that letter with the envelope, i hope -- i guess they put their name on, they might be a little trouble. >> well, the fbi should be able to find out who did it, it still remains the world's best law enforcement agency, with trump, it's always an issue of discretion. all of the stuff out there now, is there a prosecutor who's going to focus on these threats of violence from trump's allies? >> we have to wait and see, important question. i want to turn to some other trump investigations, i talked about the judge that ruled that trump officials, including mark meadows, former chief of staff have to testify. before the january 6th grandeur. how significant is this? >> it's huge. you >> got the evan corcoran news as well.

>> first, mark meadows lost his executive privilege claim, trump can still appeal. we know, the supreme court and court of appeals, are on to trump's game of using the legal system to try to delay. ultimately, i think that mark meadows is going to have to testify. simone, what this is mainly about, i think is that 170 minutes on january 6th, where we don't know what trump was doing, we know he was lethally watching the insurrection. we know he didn't pick up the phone to call the attorney general or the secretary. or the secretary of homeland security. we know that there's no entries in the white house diary, we know that the call log is blank, although rudy giuliani's call logs said he talk to trump that day. they want to know, that jury want to know what mark meadows knows? >> yeah. was trump in touch, we know that there is this war room in the pentagon. was trump in touch with that war room?

again, mark meadows will now have to spill it to the grand jury. >> you raise a lot of good questions. paula, i know you're good for prosecutor, paul butler, thanks to being with us. >> always a pleasure. >> now, i want to turn to some breaking news, latest gentlemen. there's been a way very powerful tornadoes, they've just torn through the south overnight. leaving at least 24 people dead, and mississippi and alabama. officials also say, dozens more were injured. those numbers only expected to rise, as rescue teams comb through the wreckage, searching for survivors. right now, four people are still missing. ever see news correspondent, priscilla thompson, is in silver city with the latest. >> so bone, there's so much devastation here after those tornadoes touched down overnight. i want to give you a look at what we're seeing in silver city, this was a home that was back there, this is what is left of that. you can see the clothes and the items strewn everywhere. there's also a car you'll be

able to see back there with the windows completely thrown out. these are the types of scenes that people are coming back to. the roofs completely ripped off of houses, entire bedrooms gone. and we're seeing a similar scene, just up the road in rolling fork, which really bore the brunt of a lot of this damage for homes, again, completely removed from their foundations. 18 wheeler that have been picked up and moved, i talked to many people who were here. when this happened. they described sheltering in bathrooms and closets, and just hoping that this would end. this is what they came out to sea, and now, they're dealing with what happens next in terms of rebuilding their lives. fema is on the ground here, so, there will be some support that way. but a long road to recovery here for these folks. simone? >> thank you so much, priscilla, for that report. congress grilled the ceo of social media giant, tiktok, this week about the threats

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and that's really half the country, all they are on tiktok but the senate is considering legislation that would ban the popular app. and the proposal already has the backing at the white house

and over and house of representatives, tiktok ceo says top questioning from the committee on energy and commerce. he tried to adjust bipartisan concern that the chinese government can access americans personal data, through tiktok, beijing, and the company fight. >> has they spied on american citizens. i don't think they are spying is the right way to describe it. congressman, i have seen no evidence of the chinese government has access to the data. they've never asked, us we have not provided. >> but i find that actually preposterous. >> american data has always been stored in virginia in singapore in the past. an axis of this is on an as required basis -- >> by engineers for -- no. >> that's what a hearty looks like y'all. now democratic congressman, jamal baldwin he spoke out against the possible tiktok

banned, god tiktok banned because of free speech concerns and the impact on small businesses. joining me now to discuss are some actual tiktokers. aidan commerce city, the founder of gen z for change is here and tiktok content creator claudine is also here. welcome to you both. now miss james, i want to start with you because we introduced a segment, i am sure people were expected to see is all young people and you are in english teacher, who is offering grammar lessons to millions of followers on tiktok. how would a ban of the app affect your ability to do your job? >> when a ban would affect my amazing platform that's help so many students. just as i got an email from someone that says i will finally graduate them and your tiktok lessons help me. another lady said that i found my purpose again teaching by watching you because you have

made may become passionate again about teaching. >> so your presence has made a difference on the app. aiden, look social sphere is out with a new poll and the poll signs of 53% of gen z opposes a ban on tiktok but a similar, number 51% are still concerned about beijing influence. some so had you think the lawmakers could address thought of privacy concerns while also allowing tiktok to remain? >> yes, for a someone called a hearing, there sure is not a whole lot of listening going on on thursday. i think lawmakers kind of came in with a plan of exactly what they wanted to do and weren't really looking to dive into a nuanced conversation about tiktok. i think that we can see the forest or the trees here. i think there is a data privacy crisis in this country that we need to address but it has to be through a wide skull regulation and government oversight. i think that that's what

lawmakers need to do rather than singling out one platform. >> i mean it's so interesting because i was watching the hearing. what some of the lawmakers were describing, is exactly comparable to conduct that facebook exhibits, that we know of? the only difference there is the lack of the potential for the chinese government to take a peek at the data. i want to talk about just an impact that a band if you, will not to mention what band would work. what a ban would have on creators, some of the folks who oppose the ban have rightfully pointed out that tiktok gives a voice to its content creators, especially content creators of color. can you just talk about the impact that a ban would have on folks like you and so many other creators on the platform? >> i am so thankful to be able to have this platform. there is not anything i intentionally, my students on tiktok and within a day, i had

1000 followers and six week later i had 100,000 followers. what i have, done what i have been able to do on the tiktok is be able to have a platform, education, and values education is something that we need to be after. every single, day and i know you're familiar when it says education is the most powerful weapon that we can use to change the world and my platform has become powerful on tiktok and i just simply was doing grammar lessons. word of the day, just it's so easy. i had someone when i was in the white house the other day, someone stop me and said that he makes a six-year-old daughter watch my videos. she said she will be smart because of you. >> oh, the range, the range. at the white house, aided you recently visited the capital and you were there to voice their opposition to this potential tiktok banned. who did you talk? to which lawmakers and how respective where they your

message? >> i think tua varying degrees, other congressman bowman had a really good understanding of exactly why we were there. we weren't there to defend tiktok as a company. they are absolutely meaningful reforms that need to be made and other social media companies. what congressman bowman understood is that tiktok is a place where young people go for entertainment, for education as we heard from miss james. for their news. they are using it for a wide range of purposes and to understand themselves better. i think that's what we are kind of leading sight of is that banning tiktok would not just be affecting a corporation, it would be affecting 150 million americans that use tiktok. i'm >> a very important number. we will continue this conversation on this program going forward. aiden call and marcy, claudia james thank you both very much.

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holding what he says is his first major rally of the 2024 election season. critics say it could be an attempt to stir up his ultra right mega supporters. . he's headed to waco, texas. miles from the location of the former branch dividend compound. okay, 30 years ago, a standoff was underway between the branch dividend, which is religious cult, and federal agents. 51 day standoff started with a deadliest shootout on american soil since the civil war. and it ended in a horrific fire. for federal agents and 82 members of the cult died, including 28 children. the cult claimed it was an act of government overreach. timothy mcvay said his fire expired him to bomb the federal building in oklahoma city, two years later. 168 americans were killed in that violent attack. now, as donald trump claims to be a victim of government overreach and --

minute da avon break, it is waco he's chosen to set the tone for his 2024 campaign. political panel is here now, folks, sam mitchell is a washington correspondent for the atlanta journal-constitution, msnbc political analyst, brendan buck is a former chief communications adviser for house speaker paul ryan. and msnbc political analyst, donna edwards, is a former congresswoman from maryland. congresswoman, and start with you. it really feels to me that we've got this racist rhetoric from the former president, that is using to speak about alvin bragg. the death threats, other threats of violence, what is happening to mr. brag is very serious. this isn't just business as usual, it's not just political games, right? >> no, it's not at all. in fact, listening to the former president language, it is exactly the same kind of language that led up to january 6th, we should take this very seriously. the fact that he's holding this

rally in waco, the use of the language death and destruction, a posing with the bat. all of these things are leading to what could happen in violence that could ensue because of the rhetoric that the president is engaged in. let's be clear, the president knows, the former president, knows exactly what he's doing. and what he's saying. it's not an accident. so, i think we should all take this as very seriously, the fact that he's holding this rally in waco, for all of the reasons that you cited in your opening, should give us all pause about the president his actions and the potential consequences. >> you know, it's not just the former president, house republicans they are now investigating alvin bragg. only after donald trump said last weekend, he was anticipating the being arrested. so, house republican they sent a letter, they demanded

testimony. and document about brags investigation. brags spokesperson britain called it unprecedented. it said that congress is not the appropriate branch to rebuke sending criminal matters. brandon, is it the foal for the correctional committee amplifying the target that is already on alvin bragg's back? >> yeah, the house committee has already been acting as an arm of the trump camp. they do whatever he says, you wouldn't be investigating hunter biden if it wasn't on the behalf of donald trump. look, on one hand, republicans are smart to focus on the manhattan case. compared to other ones. i think a lot of people will acknowledge, the case in new york's of all the things donald trump is being investigated for, the weakest ground. i think you get a picture enemies, this is a good one to pick. that said, there isn't -- going too far overreaching. that's where republicans have been very good at.

this is unheard of, when i saw that they were doing this, i had to give them some credit for the imagination they were meddling in something that had the state district attorney level, that something that congress doesn't exist to do. we exist to have legislative lawmaking purposes. to do all that, oh it's not a house committee structure that is set up to make laws, it is -- helped on a trump make the case that, when he's done over the last several years, is nobody. and pave the way for his reelection. >> we are, if i check the clock that i have right in here, about two hours the former president is expected to take the stage in waco, texas. the pre-rally is underway. do you, the former president has not linked his current rally there to the deadly standoff from 1983. what we are sources telling you about the place, waco, just the plans that the trump campaign has to put this thing together.

>> well, if you read news reports, including for example, the new york times, from trump supporters. they are the ones that are linking the waco standoff from 30 years ago to his decision to hold the rally there tonight. of course, like you said, trump representatives, his campaign is saying, it was just about face in finding the right venue. i think the symbolism cannot be disregarded, the symbolism cannot be disconnected from the decision making. so, his supporters say, it's symbolic because they believe that what happened to the branch dividend 30 years ago was an example of governmental overreach. again, as you mentioned, that plays into the narrative that republicans are building around donald trump now. that things like the manhattan district attorney, and various

other investigations, targeting former president trump, are examples of government overreach. like you said, it's something that could bite him, that could be seen as overplaying his hand. particularly, if his crowds become too unruly or, in his supporters, do take to violence. >> this is a good point, congresswoman, i've never been to a trump rally, they used to play them on tv. so, i think i know what we're gonna get tonight. how do you think leaders, regardless of political party, regardless of who they voted for, how should they respond to the former president's rhetoric after his rally, during his rally tonight? >> well, first of all, we should recognize that, you've been a part of campaigns, i've been a part of campaigns, every choice is that venue, that location, that logistics. it's an intentional choice. so, let's stop pretending that there's no connection between what happened in the past, at

waco, in the selection of the site for today's rally. i think people responsible people, after call out donald trump on this. and we will not be surprised to hear that the language that he uses, is dark, it's violent, and it anti-democratic. >> brandon, before we go, next week, the manhattan grand jury will meet yet again. i think it's important to note that the only reason lots of people or on indictment, watch in a heightened way last week, because of these random social media posts that were baseless from the former president. what do you think we should be watching for this coming. week quickly. >> classic trump and getting over to put eyes on him, and defining what was happening, muddying the waters getting ahead of us making us react, we've been doing this for what six, 78 years now with all trump this is why he's so favorite to be the republican nominees because he controls

what we talked about he always does. i followed, for we all fall for. it's serious stuff they throw at us. the course, we're following. again, it's such an advantage over everybody else, but says -- you can't trust him. i think it's a big reminder, as we're going back to doing this again, we need to reassess how we react to what he says. it's harder to jump off this train, with what he starts going. we will have to leave it there. brandon fox, donna edwards and pete mitchell i appreciate all of your inside spirit very much. thank you. folks, it is still women's history month and we are still celebrating her story. highlighting trail blazing woman, today carolina o'connor seized the president of that miami mileage changing the game with her rise to the top ranks of major league baseball. -- joins me with her amazing story next. here for you. we offer the custom dental treatments you need, all under one roof, right nearby.

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history month on simone in partnership with maker prusiensky know your values, we are highlighting a barrier breaking women who are -- and are celebrating her story theories. our guest today is caroline o'connor. she is the second highest ranking woman in major league baseball. the point is the president of this operation for the miami marlins in november of 2022. now o'connor started with the marlins in october of 2017, she quickly showed that she was a game-changer. becoming that vice president and chief of staff. now o'connor oversees the off field business for the marlins and leads efforts to rallying diversity, equity and inclusion. community outreach and so much more. this, year o'connor led the marlins to host the 2023 world baseball classic. nearly 36,000 fans came to the marlins home, the lone people park it was the first time and if any host at all three rounds of the competition. joining me now is that lady

with the plan, miami marlins president of this operation of caroline o'connor. welcome to you caroline. a very interested to know why you chose to try to throw the corporate world to professional sports world. >> hi simone, thanks for having me. yes and i had an opportunity in sports, i always love sports as a kid and played sports and yes, it was a once in a lifetime opportunity and definitely piqued my interest. >> you know you are which i could not believe, you are only the second woman to serve as an mlb team president? >> it's insane to me. the seattle mariners is the other and i know the marlins are particularly unique because your colleague kim wang is the woman general manager and the mlb. what is going on? why has it taken so long? >> you know i think it's important for people to see us in our roles and then we on women will think, hey i live

there. to the marlins we have a female general manager with a first team in professional sports to be run day today by women and yes, -- as very supportive of us and we are proud of the organization. >> what kind of work to think needs to be done across the board within the mlb to get more women into these roles because i know it's not because they can't find any qualified women? >> i think it's awareness. for me personally, i never thought a sports of a career. i think some people like me like him, catie and our roles people will see that and say okay, let me consider that and i am coming out of college and what to study. so i think it's representation and getting the story out there. mlb does have some great programs. diversity internship programs, at the marlins and the front office we have a lot of women who work in the front office that are very proud of that. but diversity of all kinds are great, and they are brought up and i think a lot about the

marlins. >> hopefully they're folks schooling the internships right now. caroline if you just think about your entire time with the marlins organization, what has been your most memorable day on the job? >> well you know opening day is always a special, day kind of the start of the baseball season. like the first day of school, we have opening day coming up here on thursday march 30th across major league baseball. this will be my six opening day with the marlins which i can't believe. there is so much excitement, the fans, the cades comes through the door. kind of the tip off the baseball season. i think it's the best time of year. >> oh, opening day. we'll goodness this saturday's coming up so quickly. all right i was reading about the work that you have been doing for the marlins efforts for community outreach in your really been at the forefront of that, including the tee ball initiative. talk to me about the table initiative and how you are ensuring that young women and

girls have the opportunity to play on a sport that is mainly dominated by men? >> yes i mean across the local region, here we have sponsored over 200 people teams each year, which the equipment and uniforms for the kids to make it easy for them to come out and play table, get outside and get that great experience. and so for, as we get out there with the kids, the players come out. it's really an organization wide effort. we just finished doing a field day here, will players take the kids and stations and teach them baseball and softball skills. it's really great to be out, their hands on interacting with a community and we know a thing with the love, sports love of baseball and you hope to see the kids in our ballpark cheering for those guys when they. >> oh caroline, you know i just really am so happy that you can come on today. i think the work that you are doing and you are example, kim's example and katie's example, hopefully next year as we have this conversation during women's history month, there are more women in the mlb leading and following you all

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