investigation. cnn reports tonight communications between stormy daniels and her lawyer, currently defending donald trump are now in the hands of the manhattan da. daniel says, the exchanges between daniels and current trump roller, joe tacopina dates back to 2018 when daniel approached tacopina about representing her. these communications raise the possibility the tacopina could be sidelined, for now, in turn from defending trump. he denies that there is a conflict of interest and says he neither met with, north spoke, with daniels. stay tuned that's it for us tonight now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrence. >> good evening >> of course there's video of him all over the world why drive saying hey it sounds like what michael cohen did was a serious crime with donald trump. i guess that is video that donald trump didn't see before hiring him >> yes exactly. now, alvin bragg has the communications between stormy daniels, and joe tacopina, which could take joe check a

peña off this case in terms of trump's defense. >> alex during your hour, there is a huge development in washington in jackson's investigation into the grand jury. this ultra fast-tracked appeal process going on. you have andrew weissmann here, and others, who are going to discuss it. later in the hour because i am wondering how donald trump is feeling tonight and because everyone who works for donald trump is a liar for donald trump, i do not rely on what the trump staff says like the new york times does about how donald trump is feeling. i will ask mary trump tonight. >> wow. >> how her uncle is feeling. as they close in on him and prosecutors offices all over the country. that lawrence, is called a deep cut. that is a must watch segment. i will tune in. >> thank you alex. thank you. as i said we have breaking news about legal matters involving

donald trump, which involve veteran appeals court to procedural deadlines. unlike any we have ever seen. we have an ultra high speed appeal for a ruling ordering one of donald trump's lawyers to testify to special prosecutor jack smith's grand jury. the trump lawyers have a filing dead light of midnight tonight in the federal appeals court in washington d.c. jack smith has a response a deadline of six hours later of 6 am tomorrow morning that is happening right now tonight. so the biggest legal development in the criminal investigations of donald trump did not happen in manhattan today as donald trump incorrectly predicted on saturday. donald trump was not charged with crimes today by the manhattan district attorney alvin bragg as trump predicted he would be on saturday. also there was virtually no

protests against prosecutions of donald trump, anywhere today. even though on saturday donald trump begged his supporters to get out and to protest what he said would be his arrest, today in manhattan. protesters were out in manhattan today right in front of trump tower demanding that donald trump be prosecuted for everything. more people turned out in manhattan today to demand that donald trump be prosecuted on the total number of people who have turned out, in the entire country to protest donald trump being prosecuted. it was the biggest protest since 2019 in los angeles today but and workers in the los angeles school district who have not had a public protest like that since 2019. so yes there was a protest in america today, but not to support donald trump against

the prosecutors who are closing in on him and the worst legal news that donald trump is living with, at this very hour, tonight, is from special prosecutor, jack smith's grand jury in, washington d.c. investigating donald trump's possession of government documents including classified documents, after leaving office. abc news has delivered the most important beginning part of breaking news of the night under the headline, special counsel claims trump, deliberately, misled his eternities about classified documents. abc news reports that prosecutors in the special counsel offices have presented compelling preliminary evidence that donald trump knowingly, and deliberately misled his own attorneys about his retention of classified materials after leaving office, a former top federal judge wrote, friday, in a sealed filing, according to sources who described his contents to abc news federal

judge barrel howell in her role as chief judge of the district court in washington d.c., had been supervising jackson's investigation grandeur and vesta geisha, until friday, when her term as chief judge came to an end. the new chief judge is james roseburg, who, like howell, was appointed by president obama. abc news reports jacks mitt's office presented evidence to judge howell for showing that the former president had committed criminal violations according to the sources. attorney privilege is invoked by two of his lawyers could be pierced. abc news is reporting that judge how ordered trump lawyer evan court, to testify to the jury, without the protection of attorney-client privilege, and judge howell, quote, also ordered him to hand over a

number of records, tied to what halo described as, trump's alleged criminal scheme echoing prosecutors. those records include handwritten notes, invoices and transcriptions of personal audio recordings. howell agreed prosecutors made a sufficient showing that, on its face, would appear to show trump committed crimes. abc went on to report, quote prosecutors showed sufficient evidence that trump can intentionally conceal the evidence of additional classified documents from courtroom sources, putting corcoran in an unwilling position to deceive the government. evan corcoran wrote a sworn statement signed by other lawyers which they gave to the justice department, in effect, swearing under oath, that they had turned over all of the government documents, classified documents, in donald trump's possession but when the

fbi later executed a search warrant they found more than 100 additional documents including a classified document in donald trump's desk. after trump lawyers swore under oath, to the justice department there was no more classified documents and on trump's possession the fbi, actually, found classified documents in his desk if donald trump lied to even corcoran, and other lawyers working for him about his possession of those documents that is a strong case for obstruction of justice against donald trump. the breaking news of the last hour reported by politico's judge howls ruling is on an ultra fast-track appeal schedule. the three judge panel of the federal circuit court appeals with the trump lawyers facing,

a midnight deadline for their filing. jacks mitt facing a six a.m. response deadline to the trump attorney filing. to many that case involving the illegal possession of classified documents appears to be a more serious case. but paying off a foreign sort of purchaser silence for one brief sexual experience she claimed he had with known trump, four months after the birth of his last child. but is it? is it a more important case? if donald trump committed crimes with government documents, he committed those crimes after being president of the united states. the crime that donald trump, allegedly, committed and purchasing the temporary silence of stormy daniels, or crimes that enabled donald trump to win the presidency.

the stormy daniels had told her story about sex with donald trump three weeks before the presidential election, when she was ready to tell her story publicly, donald trump, probably would not have won the electoral college. michael cohen acting on donald trump's behalf, and at his direction, according to the federal prosecutor, michael cohs silence monday after. cohs this became public. . . ,. >>.

some of them called on donald trump to quit the presidential campaign, and stop disrupting the republican party. donald trump for the first time in his public life, was cornered into sounding apologetic and begging his voters to forgive what they heard him say in that access hollywood video. but donald trump hung in there. >> i pledge to be a better man tomorrow and will never, ever let you down. >> imagine imagine. if the day after donald trump said that stormy daniels had gone on television and said this. >> i said so much to take that magazine and bank you with it. i will never forget the look on his face. what was the look? >> i don't think anyone ever spoke to him like that. especially a young woman who looked like me. give me that and i thought you

wouldn't. handed over so he did, and i said, turn around, drop a. >> you told donald trump to turn around and take office pants? >> yes >> did he? >> yes he turned around pulled's pants down he had underwear on, and i gave him a few slaps. >> but the times stormy daniels went public on 60 minutes donald trump was already president. a federal prosecutor who sent michael cohen to prison for facilitating the stormy daniels hush money conspiracy theory said michael cohen committed his crimes in coordination with, and at the direction of, individual one. individual one of course is donald trump. prosecutors said the conspiracy was designed to quote, affect the presidential election. without the crimes michael cohen committed in coordination with and at the direction of donald trump to silence stormy daniels this country, and the world, might never have had to

endure for years of a donald trump presidency. something to keep in mind when you are trying to decide which of the criminal investigations and, prosecutions of donald trump, is the most important. leading off our discussion tonight charles coleman a former federal prosecutor and former senior assistant district attorney in brooklyn new york. he is now a civil rights attorney at msnbc legal analyst and also with us andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of new york. he is a professor of practice at nyu law school, and msnbc legal analyst, andrew weiss man's coauthor piece in the new york times today, entitled, make no mistake, the investigation of donald trump into the stormy daniels scheme is serious. andrew weissmann, let's begin with the breaking news of the night. i saw neil katyal, an appeals

process experts saying and tweeting tonight he is not sure he has ever seen a midnight deadline followed by a six a.m. deadline. especially in an appeal like this. what is your sense of what is happening in that situation? >> no question, this is extremely tight deadline. this relates to the ruling that george howell issued on friday, saying, evan corcoran needs to testify, and that the documents that he has are not privileged. that if you are a client and you try to commit a crime using your lawyer whether the lawyer is winning or unwitting there is no attorney client privilege in that context that is an unassailable ruling. but usually, people are allowed to appeal and to say, to get a second bite of the apple to see

whether the panel would agree with that. here at the, appellate panel has said, yes, you can specify exactly which documents you think should not be turned over, but you have until midnight tonight. the government said you have to have until six a.m. so i do expect we could have another ruling even by tomorrow. one thing is they keep adding grand jury appearances, moving along very roughly. there is law that when you have a grand jury the courts are supposed to be quite rapid in keeping that grand jury process moving. that is what allowed the system to hold people to account and to either charge people or to find that they shouldn't be charged. so this is in keeping with that body of law but i agree with neil i have never seen something quite this quick. but again i think judge howell has strong grounds here in terms of this ruling. >> charles i am noticing about those deadlines literally six

hour deadlines it would seem to suggest the appeals court thinks this is a relatively simple matter. a pretty simple matter at this particular decision-making stage. >> yes i do agree with that. i think that the general consensus is that there should be a straightforward issue with a straightforward answer for both parties i also think in some respects, they do not have the level of resources that the appeals court will need at their disposal. donald trump and his team of lawyers, and however many attorneys he has working for them, keep expectation is that they will have something ready. for the doj, the expectation there is that deal we work on the case with jack smith, who will be able to respond, and whatever that simple question is, by 6 am. so i think that is why we are seeing this accelerated schedule from the judge as these moving forward. >> it also seems the three,

judge panel is saying to the trump lawyers, and who knows how much they are consuming of what the trump lawyers are doing in other cases like in georgia where they obviously are trying to delay. they seem to be saying to the trump lawyers, do not expect that your delay tactics which we have seen you try to use and every jurisdiction in the country -- do not expect them to work here. we will move this as fast as we possibly can. what is the import of evan corcoran's testimony assuming it is going to go forward? >> i totally agree with you. this is the court saying, we are not putting up with that monkey business. we dictate the schedule not you. i think your second question goes to the heart of the matter which is if the reporting is correct that mr. corcoran will say i was the one who has

misled by donald trump i put in the certification and i drafted, based on what he told me i did not know it was false or contained false information, because it is what i learned from my client donald trump. this is basically game over. that is incredibly strong evidence of ex struck shun of justice it is a crime to lie to the government. whether you do it directly or through your council. it is exactly what happens with paul manafort and brett gates. judge howell issued the exact same ruling we had the exact same results. we had a lawyer who was unwitting saying i learned this information from my client, and we immediately charged both with obstruction of justice, and knew we had a rock solid case. this is exactly the same thing that happens if the reporting is correct that this is what mr. corcoran will say.

it appears he may also, have contemporaneous notes. it is not unusual for a defense lawyer to keep those notes especially if you are representing someone like donald trump. we know that don mcgahn, and people in the white house did exactly that. they knew they needed to have a record with him that, they couldn't, later, be confronted with saying that is not what happened. so i would be highly surprised mr. corcoran did not write down exactly what he had been told. >> charles, we have already seen some reports indicating that notes, that corcoran's notes, were part of what would be made available to jack smith. but in tonight's reporting there is the phrase, audio recordings. that is always something that when you see in the possible mix of evidence released, starts to jump out. especially in anything involving donald trump. the possibilities of audio recordings possibly of donald

trump possibly phone calls about this matter, or discussions with him that is what is possibly in the mix of what we are looking at tonight. that is correct. i think it goes to show, just how tenuous of a relationship that donald trump has had with the attorneys he has retained to represent him. i think they are clear what they're dancing with the snow not to be trusted in many respects many lawyers he has dealt with of made a point to ensure that their eyes are dotted and their t's are crossed but checking up and making sure they know they're recording all of those things are in order or at a time such as this. unfortunately it does appear that now that they have been misled this, attorney will still have to go before the grand jury and explain what was told to him by cheat in hopes of dodging a bullet and hoping that the accountability lands where it is supposed to which is on the doorstep of donald trump. >> andrew i remember when we discovered that the sworn

statement basically that evan corcoran was part of handing over to the fbi, when we discovered that turned out to be totally untrue, i just remembered rediscovering it in this program. many are thinking he can't be trump's lawyer anymore he must immediately get a criminal defense lawyer and take care of himself. yet he has tried to hang in there as donald trump's lawyer all the way to now. is this the end of his capacity to serve as a donald trump's defense counsel in this case? >> he would be on likely to be able to be what is called a council of record if there were to be a case involving the mar-a-lago documents, involving obstruction, and the retention of classified documents. you cannot be a lawyer and a witness, to state the obvious. so, he would not be able to do

that. until such time that there is a charge, he could, still, represent donald trump, because donald trump could decide, even though he knows there is conflicts, that he will use him as counsel. but, i think that anybody and mr. corcoran's position who i think would take the better part of valor and say i can't, ethically, do that. but there is, nothing that the government right now could do about it. i highly doubt, he will remain a council of record if there are charges brought. charles cohen, what about donald trump? what about the client who has discovered that this is the state of play for one of his criminal defense lawyers in the documents case? what does he want? what does donald trump want his future relationship with this lawyer to be? >> well you know, lawrence, i've said for a long time, there's two people in the militia never lie to. the first is your mother the others are attorney.

donald trump seems to disregard the latter part of that rule at any point. in the situation, he does not want this attorney to go forward before the grand jury, but it appears as though, barring a miraculous victory on appeals is very still unlikely to happen. i can still say donald trump during the client to have this person represent him as the council of record. it will be an issue where i imagine he will move it and then have him disqualified if accidents into a first. >> charles goldman, andrew weissmann thank you both for joining us on this breaking news reporting. i really appreciate it. >> you're welcome thank you. >> up next this, come a reporting that he is not defending donald trump right before he defended donald trump. congressman adam schiff joining us next hawaii was too expensive so i brought it here. you know with priceline you could actually take that trip for less than all this. i made a horrible mistake.

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trump but what we are coming to defend is equal justice in america. that was kevin mccarthy, not defending donald trump today but because, it was kevin mccarthy, he then defended donald trump's hush money payment to stephanie clifford, the actress nonna stormy daniels. this is personal money no it wasn't. the money came from the trump business and the business records that were falsified to label that money which is a crime, according to new york law. kevin mccarthy then, tried to insult the attorney alvin bragg, this way. >> what we see before us is a political game being played by levels this isn't just new york city, this is manhattan, a borough da yes right. alvin bragg is not the district attorney for the entire city of new york, because the biggest city in america, actually, has

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basis now, as defending trump situation develops around the country. well, absolutely. of course you are right there was kevin mccarthy saying i'm not defending him but let me defend him. more than just him defending him on that stage, he has directed the chair of the judiciary committee jim jordan to essentially, investigate the manhattan district attorney, jordan, and other republican chairs have written to the da demanding documents, demanding testimonies. onaldmonies. trump's criminal defense lawyers except they also have the subpoena power which makes them dangerous. to hear kevin mccarthy also i have to say it was more than i could stomach talk about equal justice. as you pointed out what he is interested in is the most unequal justice this is the when the republican party leader donald trump gets a pass for any criminal activity. as you mentioned, if the

indictment charging michael cohen identified individual one or otherwise known as donald trump as directing the campaign fraud scheme involving that hush money to porn star then what is the argument that the guy who was directed to go to jail michael j. but the person who did the directing gets a pass? that is not equal justice. but apparently mccarthy must think that well everybody should be able to pay off porn stars and hide it when they run for office or some such nonsense. but this is kevin mccarthy, once again throwing all in with donald trump defending him with the indefensible. congressman schiff i fully honor your outrage at the republicans abuse of their positions as chairman committees who now are pretending. they are pretending to have jurisdiction over the manhattan district attorney i'm jaded just enough and live.

far enough outside of the house of representatives then i look at it as an absurdity. it will not ever be a subpoena that they send to the manhattan district attorney that will be responded to in any way. not for documents not for testimony not for anything. absolutely nothing will happen by what they are doing. but that is my view of it. i do agree it is important to keep the notion of the ideal of what these committees are supposed to do in front of americans to understand just how wild and out of control, this behavior is >> it is important to such a baseline and to help share with the country just are dangerous and absurd to service just how much of this is a continuation of the trump playbook of investigate the investigators discredit the investigation when there is a legitimate

investigation or prosecution of a criminal or potential criminal and he is a member of their party or party leader. it is in their view by definition somehow illegitimate. that's not how the rule of law works. if we are a nation of laws we can have no respect or a person's. this means the law has to apply equally to anyone what they really want is an unequal application of the law. they want immunity for their party leader. they are positing without any evidence that this is somehow a political prosecution they do not know anything about what the witnesses testified before the grand jury, and look is the manhattan grand jury believes that there is probable cause to believe that donald trump committed a crime and prosecutors believe that they can prove that crime, it is their obligation to go forward. one thing we have seen with donald trump is that if you do not hold him accountable he will go on to do worse and worse and worse. it's a dangerous idea and the abstract it's more dangerous in the concrete case of donald trump especially to set a

different standard for former presidents. the stormy daniels case is the perfect example of what you are talking about if not held accountable he will do worse. you can show on the calendar of donald trump's life that after he paid off stormy daniels he did indeed go on to do worse and worse and worse. after michael cohen was prosecuted during the trump presidency for those crimes and donald trump never faced any consequences. no censure from congress no impeachment process over that issue he then went on to do worse and worse and worse, involving black now with ukraine, and of course, the january 6th insurrection. >> there is nothing worse you can do for someone who has no ethical compass then leave them to believe that they will never be held accountable. this is the problem with donald

trump. his entire life but now those have enormous consequences. if it should be that he gets the impression or that others in positions of responsibility get the impression that by virtue of their position they can lie with impunity, and lie about hush money payments or lie about the retention of classified documents lying about coercing a nation to smear your opponent, they can lie about elections, and cause violent attacks on the capitol there is no end. there must be accountability. we on the january six committee tried to bring out accountability to a degree that congress can. but if there will be justice it will need to be delivered by prosecutors. congressman adam schiff thank you for joining us tonight. thank you. coming up -- how is donald trump dealing tonight as prosecutors close in on him? the only trump publicly tells the truth about donald trump,

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today so the trump assad. >> we've talked to trump, multiple times a day but how does he feel? what is he telling you about this case? >> i think this is another day for the president. >> is he scared as he worried? >> no he is not.

what's the state of mind? >> he said by what is going on. >> trump lawyer alina, just told us that donald trump is not scared, he is sad. and like everyone who works for donald trump she, lies for donald trump. so we have no idea if he said. your guess about how donald trump's feeling is more accurate likely, than what anyone who works for donald trump says about how donald trump is feeling the new york times which always. has an easy time penetrating trump world to get to unnamed trump sources to talk about donald trump, always makes the mistake, frequently, i should say of believing them. as the new york times does in what they think is their breaking news report of the night under headline about donald trump's magic thinking. the first sentence is, donald j trump claims he is ready for his perp walk. now that is the correct the way to report that line. we do not know if he is ready,

but he is claiming to be ready. too often, they are times, and others, fall into eliminating that distinction. later in the same article, the times reports, they view the impending indictment in the potential for more to come as an asset for the campaign. you have no idea what his aides think. that line should say, his aides claim depending indictment, and the potential for more to come are an asset for the campaign. that is a very big difference. as i said everyone who works for donald trump, lies for donald trump. so when donald trump's unnamed aides tell the new york times whatever they tell the new york times the times should, always, reported as, the aides saying that. or claiming that. instead of the new york times fully falling for the trump world line, and reporting it as

if it were fact. nobody who is willing to talk publicly about donald trump has a better insight into how he really thinks and what he really feels then our next guest, joining us now, mary trump, clinical psychologist, and niece of donald trump. she is the host of the podcast the mary trump show and author of, the reckoning. our nation's trauma and finding a way to heal thank you very much for joining us tonight. i have been wondering about you i have, been wondering what you have been wondering about your uncle, and what you suppose he is feeling tonight, which is, lawyers in washington, living under a midnight deadline to try and get their way in the documents case and with calvin brag in manhattan as close to an indictment as apparently any prosecutors are well lawrence first of all, it's great to be

here with you. you are talking about these quotes from people near donald, who, allegedly, spend a lot of time with him, there is always a disconnect between what they claim, and what i know, can't possibly feature. so, i think first of all the emotion of sadness is not in donald's arsenal. what he is feeling to the extent that he feels anything, is self pity. that makes sense. he's also feeling grievance but he feels aggrieved every time he walks into the mar-a-lago talking room and his paid patrons don't pay him sufficient amash. so, none of this is new. he has such unlimited range. the fact that they keep asking the people in his inner circle about his state of mind is

fascinating. as you just pointed out they never tell the truth about it. particularly it is fascinating in this idea that he is seizing this as an opportunity, that he is happy about the, so-called perp walk. don't get me wrong, i think it is much more likely that we see him turn himself in so to speak, then he dig in his heels and stay at mar-a-lago waiting to be arrested. but that is because he is a coward not because he is trying to make a brave stand against anything you said something that i find so interesting clinically, and from your professional perspective, on your uncle, and your personal perspective. and that, is that he cannot feel sad. and, i am reviewing every human thing i've ever known, and i don't think that ever been around someone in that

condition. what is that condition? >> well, again, i try to avoid any diagnostic labels. but this is someone has been shown serious psychological problems. you have such serious psychopath-ology's, the range for motion that is available to most relatively stable people, is not available to him. i think donald some ocean makeup consists mostly of anger, and the self pity i spoke about earlier, and deep, deep fear, and a lot of that is in the service of making sure he never feels humiliated. >> i'm realizing i've never asked you this. and i guess we're gonna squeeze in a commercial break to come back to this. because i'm now wondering, how

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he's a, smart, beautiful and a woman to be reckoned, with and i like you. >> mary trump is back with us. will that go back to stormy moment. but i left with a cliff-hanger and leftist with at the commercial break. and that is, was your exposure going up to this kind of one of the weirdest man of the world, part of what scent you down the road, to study clinical psychology? >> you know. , lawrence, if you asked me at the time, i would've said no, which is superficially and structurally true. however, when i started to have to excavate my family history in order to write my first book, which is in large part about the relationship between my grandfather, and his two older sons, i realized that unconsciously, i probably did

make the choice to study clinical psychology, because of my experience, not just because my experience in my family, because of certain patterns are recognized. and one of them, continues to this day, and you and congressman schiff alluded to in it, and it's that donald, because of what a week, an accomplished person he is, and because of his psychological inability to reckon with any of that, needs to destroy anybody who is superior to him, he's undermine any institutions that he feels holds him back. --

-- >> there's absolutely no reason, in my view, not to take her account very seriously, in fact, just watching that clip, she has his gestures, down the pointing, and i've heard interviews, in which he says he called her honeymoon. which was the term of endearment in my family, and whenever i hear her say, it sends chills down my body. so, yes i found a very credible. >> how do you suppose, your uncle donald is feeling tonight, after he called for mass protests, presumably all over the country. and the biggest trump base protest we have had since then is today in manhattan, and its protesters demanding donald trump be indicted by all the prosecutors were investigating him? >> as a beautiful thing to see, after say. it's very hard to tell with

donald he's so well defended against any information that doesn't align with his perception of things. so, if you were to allow himself to see what is going, on clearly he's probably furious. but still early days and quite honestly, i was never really worried about, new york because new york, and the and ypg is on top of this, he doesn't have a lot of support there, i'm much more worried about the kinds of stochastic terrorism he's engaged in, in the past, and unless he's able to get crowds to do his, beginning as he did on january 6th, the more likely he is to get desperate, and try to incite the kinds of more isolated violence, and what's

worrisome about, that is it could happen anywhere in the country. >> yeah, the last time he asked for a big protest, he got the violent trump mob attack in the capital. now, he's getting nothing. he's getting nothing, and i mean nothing. >> listen, i think there is, it's very difficult to make the case, and his getting indicted, or having paid money, to a point actor, he had an affair with outside of marriage, in order to keep or quiet, so that none of the american people would know, they do speeding on his wife who had just had a baby it's very hard to make the case that has anything to do with the future of american democracy. >> mary trump, telling us the inside is no one else, could thank you very much for joining us tonight, we always appreciate. >> thank, you lawrence.

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word, the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. tonight, new reporting about the special counsel investigating trump, claiming he intentionally misled his legal team about classified documents. that, happening as we await a decision, in trump's hush money case, and in spite of a potential indictment, is the gop again for us to focus on the former, guy and started actual politics? and fox news and dominion voting, back in court today for he hearing, 1.6 billion-dollar defamation suit. and the other lawsuits underway. as the 11th hour gets underway this tuesday night. >> greetings,