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politicsnation tonight's lead, the turnin point. right now, donald trump is huddling with his attorneys in florida. and getting together his defense for possible crimina indictment they could come as early a next week according to the new york times for people with knowledge of the matter have said, hi lawyers say they have no plans to meet with the manhattan district attorney's office after prosecutors invited trum to testify before a grand jury next week about the hush money payments majoring his 2016 presidential campaign to actor damage stormy daniels.

years after and alleged sexual in a fair. which trump has denied former chunk fixer michael cohen, who served time i prison for charges relate to those hush money payments, met with prosecutors for the 20t and final time yesterday ahead of his grand jur appearance on next week. meanwhile, current trump attorney joe tackett pinot tol nbc news this weekend, his client is an extortion victim. and that neither of them believe charges will actuall be brought as for the response from trump himself, the ex presiden lashed out on his social media platform, truth social insisting he is the target o yet another witch hunt manhattan district attorney, alvin. brandon philip joins me in a moment to tell us, well what h can tell us. as well as we will talk abou the politics of crime here i new york

also, three years after th death of breonna taylor, a new report from the justic department finds a pattern o anti black policing within the city of louisville kentucky. we and in tennessee, the doj i prepping and investigation o the memphis police departmen two months after the death o tyre nichols a judge blocking nearly 20 hours of additional footage, relating to the fatal police beating that led to nichols tw months ago my thoughts on both, later and you don't want to miss today's got to the woke addition. because this week, republica lawmakers blame everything from industrial accidents, t remote work, and anti racism on anti racism and a push fo inclusion. and i will tell you why they'r anti-war woke logic is putting the right to sleep a big show tonight i hear on politicsnation

let's get into it. joining me now, manhatta attorn. a democrat district attorney, bragg thank for joining us tonight ahead of what appears to be busy week in your office's investigation of donald trump' conduct relating to those hush money payments that paid out t stormy daniels in 2016 trump said that michael cohen, who emerged as a central figur in the investigation, is slate to appear before a grand journey as early as monday trump attorneys told nbc tha they have no plans to meet wit your office which has invite trump to appear before the grand jury relate to thi matter a strong signal to many that indictments, at least bein considered for the forme president. mr. brag, i know you can't say things that would compromise the investigation, but what ca you tell us and our audience about the investigation? >> we reverend sharpton, alway

good to see you. great to talk. as you indicated, i can't talk about anything beyond to say what i have said, which is tha we have an activ investigation. many observed last year that the trial of the trump organization what i would say, is the sam team is working with the sam type of professionalism an recur. the same type of team, o active investigation i could say i want to refrai from saying anymore than tha because i don't want to -- jeopardize investigation >> last year when you came int office, you are only in tw months people in your office wanted t push for whatever reason you didn't he took a lot of heat, when have said publicly, and i've said to you privately becaus you can buy sometimes on a national action network rallie to talk about gun violence and crime. and how you just seeme unperturbed by all of th controversy. but what does weigh into you

making a decision when some of your prosecutors come on whether you are moving forward or not in any case, what are th things that mean something t you that leads you to fina decision >> i appreciate the question you know, we are looking at th facts and the law. and the facts as they develop. we review documents, we talk t witnesses, and so yes we liv in this world. we may hear what the despondence as we may or other commentary but our focus is on the evidence and the law and as you know, i've been doing this for 20 plus years i'm new to being distric attorney and to some of th attention that came with that. but the doing of the job, th investigations i have been doing this for 2 plus years it's the same thing, the facts of the law >> so, whatever happens. whether there is an indictment or not, you are going to loo at the basis of what comes out in terms of how you judge it t the law. it will not be politics,

whether it is one crowd or another. you are going to go straight down the middle. >> that's what i have been doing for 20 plus years. i was a public russian prosecutor, federal, and state that it was democrat republican, independent. the former district attorney would prosecuted an fbi agent. mayor, a deputy mayor. >> so, you have no fear goin after people with big titles even if they were president. and you have no fear of no going after them >> if you follow the facts, it doesn't matter what party yo are, it doesn't matter you background is >> what did you do, and wha does the law say >> trump of course as lashed out at your office for, from his social media platform to social, complaining that these developments constitute politically motivated witc hunt to derail his presidentia campaign orchestrated by you a radical left prosecutor wh has led violent crime run amok here in new york the best part for me was whe he said that because democrats couldn't win they turn to quote, a tool tha

has never been used in this wa before weaponizing law enforcement. now, i am always rehashing wha so many in the civil right movement faced in terms of weaponize law enforcement. but, i want to get you reaction to what trump said. >> so, i don't follow whatever he may have posted on the, focusing on the work but one thing he said that i want to focus on, you mentione we going to the rallies. i always start with goin front. so we have been focused like a laser on violent crime earlier new york city. and the mayor has said homicides and shootings ar down even further in manhattan where you and i spent a lot of time, uptown manhattan, they'r down even further than that. so we have more work to do, bu we are focused on like a laser on violent crime and one of my predecessors mr. wart morgan thyle, used to say we fight crime and the manhattan district attorney' office from the streets to the suites so we do white-collar grime,

and violent crime at the sam time >> i want to get into that but one issue i understand you would like to talk about is th conviction of the trum organization earlier this year, it was foun one point $6 million the maximum possible penalty for running a decade-lon attacks fraud scheme why was that a symbolic moment for you? >> it was, i, thought i love trials i think it is a core part of our democracy. we just like when we talk abou voting, i always encourage people in our community to who serve on juries. so you've got to see in public courtroom, great public servants making a case and laying bare a decades long decades-long fraud and then the inner workings of the trump organization that is the public moment. that is when we are allowed to speak in the courtroom and lay it all bare. so i thought that wa consequential. the first time we had that kin of a criminal conviction involve the trump organization

and it speaks to the rigor and the professionalism of the career prosecutors to my office >> okay, let's get into crime. you are in your second year as manhattan da according to some and yp numbers, we got from you office, murders in manhattan dropped 16% in your first year shootings dropped 19%. that trend has extended into your second year murders down 33% in manhattan, was shootings down 12% still, that decline has come a other major crimes lik burglaries, robberies, and grand larceny's surged in ne york about 22% last year to an observer, looking at tha discrepancy, what do you say >> first, we started with mo believe is the most importan in the terms of our resources, and that is the homicides an shootings. sitting literally around a table every single day with ou law enforcement partners focusing on the smal percentage of people who drive gun violence and we started to bend tha curve. the percentage you just showed

illustrates that the beginning of this year showed encouraging data on som of the other guys yo mentioned. so we are seeing our consisten efforts really starting to bea fruit. and we are going to continue t do what we do, focusing on tha small about people who are driving violent crime, working day in a day out for a law enforcement partners, an continue tape and that curb. we like, and we think it i encouraging, but we know w have more and more work to do. >> in fact, when we had summit of blacks that are no holding a high office, which you were part of, you had covi but you zoomed in. everybody else was there national action network. we have talked about how w have to fight crime and it wit criminal justice reform. you represented gwen carter, mother of erik gardner, as wel as you've dealt with the whole question of policing so, tell me how you balanc that you live in the community you live a few blocks from national action network, i fact teach sunday school in harlem.

how do you balance all of? that >> first of, all i want t thank you for. that even though i had covid, zoomed in. i felt the energy to have to lieutenant governor, the leaders of both houses, th mayor, really sitting around talking. that was inspiring i thought it was a great moment, and you can beat us to tal about as you said, both. and we have to have both we have to have both the safet and fairness and i have been talking abou safety through fairness. because, if we don't have th trust of the community witnesses don't come forward victims don't come forward so we have to have that trust, and we get that they'r emphasizing fairness just yesterday i was in courtroom watching and assistant district attorney do a closing argument in a case involving action by a la enforcement officer, that we argue led to the death o someone in custody so that work is important. that is public safety work to. we are going to do that, and w are going to do the work sid by side. >> i know you made combining human trafficking a priority o your office.

what specific steps are yo taking to combat this issue in manhattan? >> this is deeply disturbing work, and we have seen peopl arriving, young boys and girls arriving through let's say a port authority or other ways o coming into our city people at the standby waitin to pray on them. it is deplorable conduct and so what we have been doing is using some of the sam mechanisms and techniques we are using in the gun trafficking wireta investigation. undercover investigation, to really root out people who are doing this praying on our young childre who come to this city ofte leaving very challenging conditions at home looking for a new start. so that is a significant priority for my office we have brought some disturbin but very impactful cases >> all right, i thank you fo coming into studio and talking tonight. and whatever decision is made, you know i will be calling you to come back and talk about it thank, you manhattan distric attorney alvin bragg you are always welcome on th show

joining me now is congresswoma debbie wasserman schultz democrat of florida. congresswoman, a few topics want to discuss with you but first, you want you hear my interview with manhatta with - donald bragg just. now donald trump is in you home state of florida right no strategizing his response to possible charges against him related to the stormy daniel hush money payments. what is your take away >> well i think it is important, thank you for having me, reverend al. i think it is important to not that donald trump is facing number of very serious investigations we are not talking about som to get has been politician we are talking about the perso who is the head of the republican party in this country. and, the front runner to b their nominee for president of the united states once again and so, it is important to loo at the agenda that they ar pursuing now in bullying gay kids

restricting women's rights banning education for africa americans like my governor her in florida's really banning protests an books. this is the maga extremist agenda and the individual who is unde investigation and possible indictment is the king and hea of the republican party that i spearheading that agenda >> staying in florida, florida governor ron desantis is expected to formally announc that he will seek the 2024 republican nomination fo president soon he was in iowa yesterday makin his first trip to the first in the nation caucus state an nearly crossing paths with donald trump who will be there monday he's there taking shots at bot trump and president biden in iowa over the administration's response to the covid-19 pandemic so, you've got the two presume front runners for the go

nomination in your backyard, congresswoman. what sense do you get from florida voters as to who has the momentum this time, and wh will democrats be facing nex year in your judgment? >> well, reverend al, i thin it is important to note. i just gave a press conference with my dear friend florid congressman woman gabb giffords where we were comin together with parkland parents who had lost their children in the marjory stoneman douglas shooting to vehemently oppose the carrier the permit-less carr gun legislation that rhond senses is trying to jam throug the legislature the session. and is about to reach th floor. and 62% of republicans i florida, overwhelmingly oppose that legislation and yet, they are going to ram it through doing the bidding of the m are a. and that is the same type of opposition that the rest of th agenda faces republicans, floridians,

overwhelmingly oppose the near total abortion ban that he has proposed the billing of gay kids. going after book bans an prohibiting speech and tryin to silence the ability for african american education i the state. and now he wants to take tha national i think he is going to b interviewed awakening. >> congresswoman, the federa trade commission is ongoin investigation of securities at twitter came to something up ahead this week. and the house judiciar subcommittee hearing that some republicans accuse the ftc and democrats of harassing twitter owner elon musk over his embrace of conservativ viewpoints on the platform and his decision to reinstat donald trump on the other side, democrats counted that republicans are embracing musk because h parrots the abused, accusing two journalists.

mattie a.b. and michae schellenberg are of endangerin twitter employees for their ow gain and when they released the so-called twitter files, i concert with a mask. >> elon musk spoonfed you hi cherry-pick to formation, whic you must of suspected promotes a slanted viewpoint. or at the very least, generate another right-wing conspirac theory you violated your own standard and, you appear to hav benefited from it. is it true that you have profited since you were th recipient of the twitter files you have made money? yes or no. >> i think it is probably wash, honestly >> no, you have made money tha you have not that you didn't have before, correct >> i've also spent money tha did not have before >> okay >> care to follow up on that congresswoman? >> what is very clear is that, yes, the content moderatio personnel were nearl

completely gutted. the exploiter when elon musk took over, he picked journalists, so-called journalists. his own handpicked ones. the oxymoron that i used and committee, to spin feed them curated information. essentially to feed his ow narratives that the government was somehow waging a war against conservatives. not only is that not true, but we were able to expose these t so-called journalists an committee where they were usin that hand check information to selectively make it seem lik conservatives were the victims and, of course the fact that donald trump repeatedly aske twitter to take down things he found objectionable during his tenure, that was evenl unbelievable that it didn' come up in the twitter files reverend al. isn't that amazing so, it is a total farce that elon musk is engaged in. and he's jeopardizing thei

former employees one of whom even had to sell his moment because he was bein persecuted by people on th rights who don't like that right wingers have been, where having their own posts, that we're endangering people moderated that they should because we need to keep people participation online save, and not dangerous. >> this week, 44 house democrats led by florida congresswoman lowest frankel launched international women's day with a resolution to adopt a feminist approach to u.s foreign policy with california congresswoma barbara lee who introduced the resolution along with franco saying in an interview that th resolution arose out of wome not being sentiment or present and foreign policy decisions here in the u.s. and abroad. as a supporter of th resolution, what should feminist approach to our

current foreign policy loo like >> what a feminist approach ou foreign policy looks like is making sure that the decisions that are made on behalf of the billions of women that liv around the world, are made wit women at the table in thos decision-making roles. when you have an imbalance i perspective in decision-making when women are only 30% of the ambassadors there represent ou country across the globe, then you end up having a imbalanc when it comes to the prioritie and decision-making an policies that result from th makeup of the decision-makers. so, ensuring that we have that balance, that we have a very perspective, and that wome present are presented and have seats that they can pull up to the table and be part of the policy making worldwide. that is what a fair feminist foreign policy looks like. and it is something that w should lean into you as country. >> congresswoman, debbie

wasserman shoots, thank you fo being with us. coming up, the republican wa on woke is really an assault o your freedom, i will explain i this weeks, gotcha but first, my colleague richar newly-with today's top new stories. richard? thanks >> a lot, rev good afternoon to you. heavy rains continue to soak central northern californi where millions of residents ar under flood towards their. many roads were washed away by south of white rain her damage it is expected throughout th week and even some snow into certai areas. britain's defense intelligence agency saying, russian force took control of most of bakhmu and ukraine. this eastern area has seen som of the longest and bloodiest fighting of the war so far ukraine's forces say, russia lost more than 500 troops in one day in that conflict and, indonesia's map or aafi rupture today it's viewed ga clouds and lava, it forced authorities to halt tourism an mining activities as well.

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woke means but, many will tell you they know it when they see it and lately, it seems as if the are finding witness just about everywhere they look take a listen to georgia republican congressman mik collins this week. talking about the ohio chang real mint. >> this administration spoke about dei on rethinking their. goals and one has to, wonder was more folks dei policie directing resources away fro the important things lik greasing wheels? this insanity must stop. >> congressman colin's claims,

don't add up norfolk southern's union workers haven't been complaining about diversit cause. do you see the company has bee ignoring its own safety rules. and while management has defended the practices, they aren't blaming inclusion programs either. but, none of this matters to republican lawmakers who claim to value free enterprise but now want to believ businesses and is supporting their cultural agenda othe culture wars and at that president biden is set to issu the first veto of hi administration to block republican-led bill that would discourage retirement from managers from considerin environmental and social issue in their investments for the radical right wing, it seems free markets no longer matter and it doesn't stop there. this week, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez

complained to the oversigh committee was being overwhelme by hearings about the supposed smokiness of seemingly non controversial government policies like remote work fo federal workers and paid internship programs. well at the state level, in my capacity as president of national action network, i hav marched myself in florid against governor ron desantis' effort to -- conversation of race and sexuality and schools as woke. and, forbidden tactic many republican governors around the world are now considering. the republican party that once claimed to champion smal government and personal libert is now dominated by politician pushing their cultural value on all americans where the live, where they learn, an even where they work and not only can they not to find the word woke, they als

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here just a few moments ago, what is your reaction to this? >> well, i believe what all th really good lawyers that are o the network, that it means tha they are close to an indictment i do have a couple o questions. and i will never find out but, did they coordinate this at al with the feds so they knew i was coming because we keep hearing othe cases are also close the other thing is, whil people are saying that it won' hurt donald trump in the primary, i think that should h be indicted, his numbers are going to tank for the general. and if they are bad enough, rev, as i said on the revenues, i don't think he will make it to the ballot come 2024 >> when, eta trump said just last weekend he will stay in the race even if he is indicted many democrats would like to see him held accountable but could criminal charges i this case be just another wa to rally up his face >> it could be

most of our supporters are going to leave aside they have shown that over th past what, six years, seve years. but the reality is, what susan mentioned. there are a lot of republicans who see them in the headline in the most negative ways an are turned off by that that makes them more open to the alternatives that ar running in the republica primary like ron desantis. he is creating a runway fo these other candidates with al the crime scenes allegedly committed. but the reality still remain that, his tone has changed fro that statement on cpac where h said he would be essentially undeterred if indicted and now, with the statement, this angry statement it is showing that he clearly is concerned. he's huddling with his attorneys. but i appreciate that while da bragg didn't say much about th specifics of this, case when h made exclusive explicitly clea is that they are not afraid to take on trump. they already took on the trump organization, and now they are gonna see this grand jur through. and that has built a bit o confidence >> yeah, i pick that up to you

in our conversation. this season, switching gears t iowa where florida governor ro desantis made his first trip yesterday to the hawkeye state as part of his book tour, well desantis is fueling speculatio of a 2024 run, or that he ha not made an official announcement just yet. meanwhile, desantis's new book sold 94,000 copies in his firs week outpacing political memoir sales by trump, prince, clinton, and obama doing the same period what do you make of desantis's rollout so far >> so far, as a politica analyst i have to say he i doing it pretty well he is making his time count. whether it is for fund-raisers or four appearances in iowa an selling his book, it is al very carefully orchestrated. the other thing is, desantis i

unlike all the other names tha we have heard running fo president with the exception o trump. because he has $71 million o the pack already so money is not going to be hi problem. he is going to use his legislative recession, which started last week and, goe until the end of june. to just keep pushing his agend forward. >> when eta, let's turn to california where governor gavin newsom is sayin the state would no longer do business with walgreens afte the drugstore chain said i will not be selling abortion pills in 21 republican led states what do you make of th situation? >> i think it is sickening and it makes no sense for walgreen to essentially take half of th country and say we are not distributing mifepristone, which is a save as da approved fda approved legal form of abortion and they're doing this eve where abortion is legal. so it is really questionable from walgreens, but appreciate the action from

gavin newsom because it show that these democratic statewid leaders can stand up and hol these massive companies an pharmacies accountable i also appreciate the language that we saw from democrati senators who are calling o walgreens to specify, wher they looking to be certified what states are they doing thi in, what will it take to chang their minds on that's because we deserv answers. this is yet another and effort from republican state leader to try to infringe on the righ to access basic health car across the country and it is harmful rev, it is dangerous. >> juanita, thank you very much and thank you susan. and i took note, susan, that you mentioned the -- as early as. march thank you both for being with that's coming, up washington d.c. has been dealt anothe blow when it comes to self governance d.c. congresswoman eleanor holmes knowlton joins us nex to talk about it

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politicsnation this week the senate passed a measure over her ruling the washington post the city council's rewrite o the criminal call for th nation's capital the new code have been in th works for over a decade. and would have been the firs overall of the districts criminal statutes since 1901

joining me now is d.c. congresswoman eleanor holmes norton thank you for joining me congresswoman. >> my pleasure, rev. >> congresswoman, the decision to intervene in washington d.c.'s criminal justice reform efforts were backed by mos republicans and spli democrats. president biden said earlier this month that he would not veto the measure which means it will become law you are the sole federal representative from our nation 's capital what is your reaction to this? i was very disappointed that the president of her said he would veto the measure and the he did an about face we also lost some democrats in the senate and in the house.

some of this may be due to the rising crime in the country. but this bill had the suppor of prosecutors here in the district of columbia as well it's the first time we have ha a revision of our criminal cod since 1901 it was long past due, arrive >> now, 17 d.c. statehoo applicants were arrested nea the capitol on wednesday after protesting the senate vote t block the reform bill. you introduced the bill that would grant statehood fo washington d.c. for, to give the nearly 700,000 residents voting representation in congress how does the fight for statehood play into the federa government stepping into d.c.' ability to self rule as long as i can remember, you have been champing statehood and now self rule. and now we have this interference how does this play into that >> yes, rev. and the only way to get rid of

this interference is two for afford statehood to th district of columbia now, we are getting somewhat eye on statehood we now have 54% of the america people supporting statehood. and when you add the notion of taxation without representation, it goes up to 58%. so we are on our way to stay ahead. all we need is to get back the house of representatives which we just lost >> the relationship betwee washington d.c. and the federa government is unique but it is not the only city to have its criminal justic policy second gassed we recently spoke to the mayor of st. louis where the missour state house recently passed bill to end local control of the st. louis police department. tomorrow, we will be joined on this show by the mayor o jackson mississippi, where the state lawmakers are trying t

expand the scope of state ru capital police, and create a special judiciary district for the white house part of th city these are largely blac communities having their decisions over ruled by largely white stat legislatures what is your take on what is happening? >> well, we have that happenin at the federal level and of course, this city i actually 50/50 black and white and the implications cannot be avoided. >> i must ask you the next question more than two dozen republican sitting on the house oversight and accountability committee refused to join the democratic counterparts in sending letter denouncing whit supremacy and racist conspirac theories after ranking democrat jamie raskin urged signing a draft clutch what do you think is driving

this refusal from some of your colleagues >> it is certainly disgraceful i am not sure what is drivin it you would think that anybody i the congress today would b clear on opposition to white supremacy. what all the republicans voted against this resolution, o course we are having peopl come across the border that might have influenced him but, it is disgraceful that yo can't even get a resolutio opposing white supremacy in th united states today. and of course, that is the oversight committees on which serve? >> well, in women's issues, it is an offer an honor to have a woman that i have admired for long time. congresswoman eleanor holmes norton, thank you for bein with us. -- >> thank you

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