>> that is the show for tonight. we will see you again tomorrow. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening, alex. and this dominion filing is so massive -- >> yes --

>> -- i was discovering things during your hour that you will be discovering, i'm sure. it will be more on that tomorrow. there's just so much of it. we are just going to keep digging through it. >> we had a stack this big and that was not all of it, and there is going to be more -- then the actual height of the screen -- >> and you had a time limit of 9 pm. i had to time limit. there's no timeline on this tomorrow. there will be more. it's just incredible. >> it is explosive. explosive. >> my first question is going to be to andrew weissmann about something rupert murdoch proposed in an email to paul ryan that might not be legal. and so i have to get a legal opinion about that one. >> yes, you do. i need to find out what that is. because i did not read that part. >> it's a little something about a pardon. we will have a lot to cover. >> i will stay tuned. have a good night. >> thank you, alex.

>> tucker carlson's paranoid in crazy. those are his words describing himself. -- those are -- lying about dominion voting machines in the last presidential election, claiming that those machines switched votes and everyone at fox knew that was a lie, everyone at fox except maria bartiromo knew that everything fox was spewing about dominion was a lie and everyone except maria bartiromo new. that everything donald trump's lawyer, sydney powell, who is license to practice law, has been suspended. everything she was saying about dominion was a lie. and in tonight's release, fox 10 pm host laura ingraham -- to which tucker carlson says, she's making everyone paranoid and crazy, including me. the text messages and emails

from inside fox show tucker carlson mostly tells the truth when he thinks he is communicating privately inside fox, while he constantly -- constantly -- throws pathological lies at his tv audience, who he firmly believes is way too stupid to figure out that a self-described power annoyed and crazy fox host is lying to him. as he did last night, by claiming that there was nothing violent about the attack on the capitol on january 6th, because, in the 40,000 hours of video supplied from the capitol by house speaker kevin mccarthy, tucker carlson found some moments, as i told you he would, where no one was being a violent. on the day that john lewis was almost beaten to death for daring to cross the edmund

pettus bridge in selma, alabama, there were photographs of like this one, of that alabama state trooper viciously beating john lewis. but if you had a camera on that same state trooper, same guy in that photograph, if you had a camera on him from a couple of hours before that moment, tucker carlson would tell you that that was a perfectly peaceful law-abiding police officer who never did anything wrong that day. most of the news footage of president john f. kennedy's motorcade in dallas on november 22nd, 1963 shows a smiling president welcomed by the people of dallas in the streets. tucker carlson could show his audience that film of the smiling president waving to the crowd in his motorcade to prove to his audience that nothing bad happened in dallas that day. that is all tucker carlson thinks he has to do with his audience. just don't show them the true

zap cruder film of the bullets entering the presidents head and the back of the neck. don't show that. and you can tell tucker carlson's audience that john f. kennedy was not assassinated in dallas that day. and may still be among us. that is exactly what tucker carlson did last night in his peak version of being paranoid and crazy and spewing pathological lies at the very same time. kevin mccarthy picked the person not named rupert murdoch who has been moe's most grossly exposed in the dominion legal filings as being paranoid and crazy and a pathological liar. that is the person who kevin mccarthy picked -- tucker carlson. he picked him, of all the people he could have picked, to give him the video taken by cameras on the capitol campus on january 6th, so that tucker carlson, the crazy, paranoid, pathological liar, could

pretend that nothing violent happened at the capitol that day. so that tucker carlson could pretend that no one committed to a crime. so that tucker carlson could pretend that the thousand people who have been arrested and charged with crimes by the justice department did nothing wrong so that donald trump could then say today as he did in his review of tucker carlson's video last night that everybody, all thousand of them, charged with a crime on january 6th should be immediately released from custody and prosecution. there is a massive amount of material in this latest file legal filing, including an email from rupert murdoch, to suzanne scott, who technically holds the ridiculous title of ceo of fox but is really just a rupert murdoch assistant. the email is the day after joe biden's inauguration, when rupert murdoch begins the day, in a meeting with mitch

mcconnell and lindsey graham and he tells suzanne scott what he heard in that meeting. still getting mud thrown out act us. is it in arguable that high profile fox voices voices fed the story that the election was stolen and that january 6th, an important change, to have results overturned? an important chance to have results overturned. maybe john and laura went too far. all very well for sean to tell you he was in despair about trump. but what did he tell his viewers? rupert murdoch knows exactly what sean hannity told his viewers. rupert murdoch paid sean hannity millions upon millions, tens and tens of millions of dollars to tell his viewers what rupert murdoch had shown him. that the election was stolen. that the trump presidency would be restored. under oath rupert murdoch said he was aware of no evidence whatsoever, of any election fraud in any state and he said under oath that he had no

evidence whatsoever that there was anything even slightly wrong with a single dominion voting machine anywhere. all of fox's coverage about dominion, all of it, was based on a woman who calls herself wackadoodle. this woman supplied sydney powell with her theory of the case. everything donald trump, sydney powell and rudy giuliani and fox was saying about dominion came from someone named marlene born. a few hours after all the networks, including fox, called the election for joe biden on saturday, november 7th, 2022. we have this email that day, because sydney powell forwarded it to maria bartiromo, to prove to maria bartiromo that of course there was election fraud. only maria bartiromo believed this. maria bartiromo is the only person at fox who was not

trafficking in pathological lies, because she believed this email. from marlene bore. born. it was forwarded to her in its entirety from sydney powell. marlene bourne explains that the devil was in the software. it's the software, a piece of code, was inserted such that once ballots were fed into the -- up to 3% of votes from mr. trump would automatically switch to mr. biden. this was kept at 3% because it was supposed to determine that anything higher than that would raise suspicions, but that 3% would be enough to tip a tight race. she said that the software was rigged to do this in spain. it's the spanish you decide who wins our election and who doesn't. and then she says something about the 3% that maria

bartiromo red but then decided to never tell her audience. marlene bourne said, 3%, quote, also happens to be the cut that jared kushner gets from all donations to the gop, which is line items in the software he had to create, with his brother, i think it was as a transaction fee. i thought i throw that in there in the interest of fairness to both sides. of course, there's no evidence that what she said about jared kushner's true either. she went on to say, there's also an issue with mail-in paper ballots. it's not the absentee ballots, but the mail-in ballots arbitrarily sent to people. those are identical ballots. all absentee ballots in history have been mail-in ballots. all absentee ballots now are mail-in ballots. she then said that rupert

murdoch, quote, and a handful of other non u.s. owners of the major u.s. media outlets secretly huddle most days to determine how best to portray mr. trump as badly as possible. first of all, there are no other immigrants like rupert murdoch who own any of the big tv networks. the reason maria bartiromo's source says rupert murdoch tries to portray donald trump as badly as possible was quote, as a political outsider, mr. trump has disrupted a well oiled global money laundering operation. so, the woman, maria bartiromo believes about dominion voting machines is telling her, in that same email, that her boss, rupert murdoch, is one of the masterminds in a global money laundering operation. did maria bartiromo believe that part of the email? it is a very long email.

and most of it is not about the dominion voting machines. it is about more rupert murdoch money laundering and other stuff. most of it is even more paranoid and crazy than tucker carlson. most of the email is paranoid and crazy. that's at a level that even maria bartiromo should be able to detect, but apparently maria maria bartiromo he's not informed enough to be able to separate fact from fiction in the most obvious way. marlene bourne's email says, as an aside, i'll throw this out there just because it's so interesting and related. scotus justice scalia wasn't accidentally shot during a hunting trip on john poindexter 's texas ranch. he was purposefully killed at the annual bohemian grove camp, a club for members of the mega group, during week long human

hunting expedition. never accept an invitation to be a guest at that camp. ever. a human hunting expedition. justice scalia was on a human hunting expedition. going to hunt and kill human beings and somehow he ended up dead. bohemian grove is a largely rich republican businessman's retreat that happens every summer in california. justice scalia died in his sleep as a houseguest in texas. that's february 13th, 2016. maria bartiromo apparently has no idea when or how justice scalia died, because she based all of her coverage on this email. the last third of the email answers the question, marlene knew bourne asks in her email, when she says, who am i?

and how do i know all of this? she answers, i spent most of my career -- 15 plus years -- as a successful technology analyst. that's it. that's a qualification for fox to base all of there coverage on dominion on this person. and there is more. she wrote, i've had the strangest dream since i was a little girl. most were just odd, others were clearly predictions. over time they became vivid and more interactive. about ten years ago, an event took place that seemed to amplify these abilities, by vastly more than an order of magnitude. it is more like time travel in semiconscious state, and all senses are involved. but that's not. all when i'm awake, i see would others don't see and hear with others don't hear. like voting machines changing votes. she sees that. she hears that. she quoted a movie in which one character tells another character to listen to the wind. and then she wrote, the wind

tells me i'm a ghost, but i don't believe it. although, it appears that i was shot in the back shortly after submitting a tip to the fbi two years ago. at the time, i thought i just tripped and fell during a walk and bruised my ribs, but i had a vision about a year later in which i stood in the same spot and felt my soul leave my body. it was like having a band-aid being ripped off your skin. and yet, i continue to walk the earth. despite that, the wind tells me that no one can harm me. it protects me and keeps me safe. anyway, i've gotten a little off track, and i will be the first to admit that while the last bit is pretty wackadoodles, it relevant. and i can tell you this about everything else above. time, always, eventually proves me correct. kindest regards, mars. that is the email. that is the email from marlene bourne on which fox based all

-- all -- of its attacks on dominion voting systems. tucker carlson knew that sydney powell, who was pushing that email, was crazy. i did to. everyone did. i covered sydney powell as a paranoid and crazy person, inflicting herself in america thanks to donald trump and covering sydney powell did not make me paranoid and crazy. but sidney powell made tucker carlson paranoid and crazy. she says she knew that the reason sidney powell was able to make tucker carlson paranoid and crazy was that he already was. tucker carlson seeds seethes --

tucker carlson hates passionately. and i know that because he has told us in writing. as dominion reveal tonight, on january 4th, two days before tucker carlson was absolutely certain that congress would smoothly certify joe biden's election on january six, although tucker carlson was afraid to tell his audience that, tucker carlson texts, we are very, very close to being able to avoid trump most nights. i hate him passionately. that is tucker carlson. he's saying he hates donald trump passionately. and that is now the washington posts headline tonight about tucker carlson, saying i hate him passionately. about donald trump.

donald trump has been pretending to his audience that his only problem with fox was rupert murdoch, donald trump has been ignoring all of the negative messages by the prime time fox hosts about donald trump, that have been exposed by dominion. and so it is most likely that donald trump will help tucker hide his biggest secret ever from his audience, that he hates donald trump passionately. no one in tucker's audience is going to know that tucker carlson wrote i hate trump passionately. and donald trump is probably going to protect tucker's secret. but the truth about the paranoid and crazy and passionate hater and pathological liar tucker carlson is that tucker carlson hates donald trump passionately.

and tucker carlson has proved that he hates the truth even more passionately. leading off our discussion tonight is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and former chief of counsel -- and professor of practice at nyu, law school, msnbc legal analyst. andrew, i want to begin on this one point that we got in an email that we just got before coming on the air. it is from rupert murdoch to paul ryan, on january 12th, so this is almost a week after january 6th attack on the capitol. he says to paul ryan, rupert murdoch, says everything changed last wednesday, meaning the attack on the capitol. he then says, could he -- meaning trump -- could he still resign and get pence to pardon him, then just disappear? would mike pence agree?

rupert. so that is rupert murdoch's the question to the former republican speaker of the house. in all of the historical digging that has been done around gerald ford's pardon of richard nixon, no one, including me, who wrote a book, the paging back arena, has ever been able to find anything like that, any communication like that. from richard nixon to gerald ford, the kind of communication that rupert murdoch is proposing here. richard nixon seemed to believe that it was possibly illegal for him to request a pardon from gerald ford, the vice president, in order to then hand over the presidency to him by resigning. is what rupert murdoch was advocating there, that trump make a deal with mike pence for

trump to resign, pence becomes president, gives him a pardon -- could that be a legal deal that rupert murdoch was proposing? >> so, i have a factual and legal answer for you. so i think the factual part is important to note there is this is just a week after january 6th and you have the head of fox news realizing that donald trump has criminal exposure for what just happened. this is -- it didn't take just the january 6th committee to do that. he knew exactly what was going on. he's -- saying this because he thinks there is no potential liability. but by the way -- this is just relating to what happened six days before that. so that is sort of a important factual point. just as an aside, this is, this is the news station -- i put news in scare quotes --

that kevin mccarthy thought it was useful to give exclusive access to january 6th videotapes. which tells you just how beholden the republican party still is to the fox corporation. and then on the legal issue, i actually think it can be done. you know, we actually speculated that this is something that donald trump might do, because there is a real legal issue about whether a president can pardon himself for herself and one way around that conundrum is you leave the way nixon did and you have your vice president confer the pardon. the reason we never thought that would happen is because the idea of donald trump voluntarily giving up office seemed like something that would never, ever happen. that is just not part of his dna. so this is sort of a legal issue, with no real possibility, obviously didn't it didn't happen. obviously no supreme court case has ever been on this, because like so much of what happened with donald trump, nobody has

ever had to deal with this because no one has ever dealt with a president like donald trump with all of his shenanigans and skirting the law. but i do you think it would probably be withheld -- upheld that if he left, the deal was that it was understood that this would be part of what he would do. i also think that the reality -- and you know more than i do on this -- week that they wouldn't need to say this is the quid pro quo. it would be sort of understood in a way that happens, unfortunately, all too often in washington. >> that has always been the guessing of nixon and gerald ford. nixon was afraid to say it because he was a lawyer and he thought it could very well be illegal, it could be considered a bribe, i am giving him the presidency in exchange for the hope, i think, in the air was thick enough for gerald ford to possibly not need to -- we have to squeeze in a very quick break here. we have so much more to discuss

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but come on. there isn't really an upside to trump. and still with us is andrew weissmann. and joining our discussion now is charles blow, columnist for the new york times and msnbc political analyst. charles, the washington post -- headline right now at this hour's i hate passionately. it's quoting tucker carlson about donald trump. which probably is the single shortest quote that depicts the full space between what fox hosts actually think and what they said to their audience about trump. >> right. and it is kind of in line with what we know about a lot of lawmakers too, who will say things off the record and in front of the cameras will say something completely different. -- paul ryan said pretty much the

same thing, that he did not want to be disappointed -- word he used -- didn't want to do that. so he was playing along, pretending that he get along with him. tucker carlson was doing the same thing and a lot of the fox hosts were doing the same thing on the air, pretending to be journalists, and doing it to their audiences. and those audiences are still tonight in the dark, many of them. we do not have a media environment in america right now we're people across watching. they are not flipping back and forth between msnbc and fox and -- unless they are hate watching. so, that's a small group of people. people are in their silos. people at fox are not hearing what you are saying tonight, lawrence, about tucker carlson says. >> right. >> and tucker carlson is himself never going to admit on his show that this is how he feels or how he felt about donald trump. and so he will just do what fox, i'm sure, is going to do, which is just completely ignore that

this is happening. and if they have to pay -- out of pocket, out of the back door. and they continue to pretend that none of this is real and none of this is happening. >> andrew, i want to read you what rupert murdoch said under oath about why they behaved with trump the way they did. at that network. it said -- question -- at one point you suggested to your son lachlan, that perhaps we could have gone first, but being second would save you from a trump explosion. right? that means, in calling the election. what did you mean it saves us a trump explosion! answer from rupert murdoch. well, trump still had a huge following. and you know, when he gets mad, he stirs people up. i mean, you would rather not have trump as an enemy.

he was still president president. andrew, that never inhibited me. i started calling donald trump a liar in 2011. he started attacking me than. the idea that these people were afraid of donald trump, they are the only people on television who are afraid of donald trump. no one here was. no one anyone where else except at fox. rupert murdoch admitting it under oath, we fixed our coverage because we are afraid of donald trump. >> it's really important to remember that the fox station is essentially state run media. there is the symbiotic relationship between fox and the republican party and it is not just trump. what kevin mccarthy just did, by handing these videotapes exclusively to tucker carlson tells you that it is still

going on. and that is just so pernicious. because you don't end up with an independent fourth estate. you could relate this to what desantis is trying to do in florida, where he is increasing liability for news stations if they report the news. the whole idea is to have a hegemony over what gets reported. so i think you are seeing that with somebody's powerful and and as rich as rupert murdoch saying we are toeing the line, it has nothing to do with blue or red, in his words, it has to do with green. it has nothing to do with the truth. and that is why they are facing such a huge problem now. because, do you go to trial? where more of this is going to come out? or do you settle, where you then have to have an admission that you did something? and if you have admission that you did something, how do you do that when you are going to

really pace off a lot of your viewers that you are lying to? so they are in a huge conundrum, because of the relationship they have with donald trump and the maga republicans. >> charles, in the same sequence of texts in which tucker carlson reveals that he hates trump passionately, he also says, basically we have nothing to show for it. the trump presidency, the four years, we have nothing to show for it. and we are just pretending. he uses the word pretending. we are all pretending, meaning everyone at fox's pretending that the trump presidency actually achieved something. >> right. because you have to remember, at that point, after the election, fox had started to lose some of its viewers to competitors. and so they are all freaking out. and part of what he's saying about not having anything to show for it is that they are

now facing their own upstarts. they are upstarts that may, in the future, they believe, pose a real threat to the bottom line, to their pockets. and so they are looking at this and thinking, trump is the reason for this. when trump started to attack fox news after they made an early call on election night. that is when they got in trouble with the trump brand. that is why rupert murdoch's paranoid in that text, it is because they don't want to get too far on the wrong side of trump. it's not because they are afraid of the man. they are afraid of all the eyeballs that that man commands. and if they roll those eyeballs, if trump can get them to turn to another station away from fox news, that hurts them. they don't want to be in the position of losing that money. >> andrew, i read on the other side of the commercial break, the email to sidney powell,

that sidney powell forwarded to maria bartiromo -- this email is the entire case for sidney powell's attacks on the dominion voting machines and for foxes attacks. and the last third of the email, written by this woman who we have never heard of before this email or since, she is talking about how she listens to the wind, she has visions, she sees things and here's things no one else can. she was shot once but there was no evidence of a gunshot wound. it's all these unbelievably delusional, insane things. they are all right there in the very same email that maria bartiromo and fox used as there are proof for the case for making against dominion. that email is going to be in court as an exhibit. it is possible that dominion could call that woman who wrote

that email as a witness. but if we get to this stage -- this trial stage in this case -- how is the jury going to see an email like that as the basis for your attacks on this company? >> so, you are asking the lawyer in this group. and i'm talking to two journalists here. and, would either of you, ever, in 1 million years, read something like this and report it out? and the answer is, of course not, anymore than i would think that i'm going to base a criminal case or even a civil case on this woman's testimony. and she obviously -- i mean, it is sort of sad. she obviously has mental issues. what is not sad -- and is the way it was weaponized to use the republican term, because this

is going to be a leading exhibit at the trial. it is so damaging to that, you have a host of a nightly show who saw this and read it and was exposed to it, it wasn't just sidney powell saying trust me, i have got a source. they had it in their hands. and yet, they went forward. so, this, again, is why fox's -- it is hard to imagine what their legal strategy is that allowed this case to go so far to allow all of this to come out. the one final point i want to make is, just to be clear, if they hadn't attacked dominion, we would not know about this. they would have been lying to a fair thee well, just as much about donald trump, everything that happened, and the only reason that we know is that happenstance that they went too far, because lying to the

american public is -- there is not going to be a lawsuit that you can bring against that. but because they lied and hurt dominion, that is the reason that we know about not just what they did to dominion but what they were doing to the voters. and that really is the take home of this. and it is just fortuitous that we are lucky that dominion brought this lawsuit that benefits all of us to see what was going on. >> it turns out, as we know tonight, that the minions machines worked. they delivered an accurate election. and we are lucky enough that that company had the resources to be able to sue fox. they had enough money, which takes a massive amount of money to get this far in this lawsuit -- and a lot of other companies wouldn't be able to do it or they just would choose not to do it. we are going to have so much more on this as we continue to cover this lawsuit. andrew weissmann, charles blow, thank you so much for joining us on this important night. we really appreciate it.

>> you are welcome. >> thank you. >> coming up, the pathological lies of tucker carlson about january 6th, that he delivered last night. they went too far for mitch mcconnell. and other republican senators. and any sane person with a sense of decency. congressman adam schiff, a member of the january 6th committee, will join us next. join us next ha-ha-ha! which means your smart home isn't so smart. sprinkler on. and now i'm sending mixed signals to your garage. and, if you haven't bundled your home and auto coverage, trying to unpack this isn't going to be too much fun. hey, check the router! so, get allstate and be better protected from mayhem while saving up to 25% when you bundle home and auto. only at vanguard, you're more than just an investor you're an owner. that means that your goals are ours too. and vanguard retirement tools and advice can help you get there.

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>> with regard to the presentation on fox news last night, i want to associate myself entirely with the opinion of the chief of the capitol police. about what happened, on january 6th. >> clearly, the chief of the capitol police, in my view, correctly describes what most of us witnessed firsthand, on january 6th. so that's my reaction to it, -- it was a mistake, in my view, for fox news to depict this in a way that is completely at variance, with what our chief law enforcement official here, at the capitol thinks. >> history might show that that is very first time mitch mcconnell has used the word

mistake to describe what fox does. the statement that he was holding up by the capitol police chief tom manger said last night night because they saw the commentary, that was full of misleading conclusions about january 6th, the program conveniently cherry-picked from the calmer moments from our 41,000 hours of video -- the commentary fails to provide context about the chaos and violence that happened before or during, these less tense moments. finally, the most disturbing -- last night was the fact that our friend and colleague brian sicknick, and -- that had officer sicknick not fought valiantly for hours on the day he was violently assaulted, officer sicknick would not have died the next day. in response to the program the family of officer brian

sicknick released a written statement saying, in part, what will it take to silence the lies from people like tucker carlsen? what will it take to convince people that the january 6th insurrection was very real, was very violent, and the event was orchestrated by a man who is every bit as corrupt, and evil as vladimir putin? >> joining us now is democratic congressman adam schiff of california. he served on the january 6th select committee and with the lead impeachment manager for the first impeachment trial of donald trump. he's currently a candidate for senate in california. one of the strange things, that we were learning tonight about the statement we just heard from officer sicknick's family -- tucker carlson apparently privately agrees with that view of donald trump. the sicknick family did not say, we hate donald trump passionately. tucker carlson said that, that

he hates trump passionately. >> you're absolutely right, it really takes your breath away. and yet we have so come to accept this of the tucker carlson's of the world, in which, in their world, you lie to -- you lie to make money you lie to -- you live for ratings. that's that tucker carlson's world. if donald trump is the original propagator of the lies, tucker carlson is the amplifier of the lies. and to see so shockingly in black and white what he's saying internally, his acknowledgment that it's all a lie and that nothing matters to the ratings and the money, and this is the person that kevin mccarthy decides to trust with 40,000 plus hours of capitol surveillance video -- it just shows how bankrupt the republican leadership is, that they would do such a thing.

mccarthy is described sometimes as an empty suit. he's worse than an empty suit. he's a suit that is filled by nothing but ambition and lies, and to trust someone like tucker carlsen without footage, to help him to aid and abet in further misleading the american people, it's just just unconscionable. >> we are going to squeeze in a commercial break so we can keep our discussion going. we're gonna be back right after this, with more from congressman schiff. as someone living with type 2 diabetes, i want to keep it real and talk about some risks. with type 2 diabetes you have up to 4 times greater risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. even at your a1c goal, you're still at risk ...which if ignored could bring you here... ...may put you in one of those... ...or even worse. too much? that's the point.

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thom tillis's reaction to tucker carlson's lies last night about january 6th. >> i think it's bs. i was here. i was down there. and i saw, maybe a few tourists, a few people who got up caught up and things. but when you see police barricades breached, when you see police officers assaulted -- all of that, or you had to be in close proximity to it, if you are a just a tourist, you probably should have lined up at the visitor center and came in an orderly basis. >> back with us is adam schiff, member of the january 6th committee. to come mccarthy said that he did not see what tucker carlson did last night and did not watch the show. he gave him all this video and thought it was an important enough to not watch what tucker carlson did with it. tucker carlson did the obvious, which was to show you some piece of it where there was no violence in the course of that day. we all know that that kind of video exists.

but kevin mccarthy's pretending he does not know what happened on that show last night. >> yeah. of course, nobility nobody believes kevin mccarthy -- not to be aware of it. and i often don't find myself agreeing with tom tillis. but i do here -- i was in the building that day, i saw what the insurrectionists were trying to do. no one who is there that day could help but conclude that this was a violent effort to stop the peaceful transfer of power. lawrence, to return to the question that the brian sicknick family asked in that statement, what does it take to stop tucker carlson from telling these lies, to stop this effort to rewrite history about january 6th -- because at fox, for tucker carlson, for sean hannity, for rupert murdoch, for all these people, for laura ingraham, it's only about the money -- is only about ratings and money. the only way to stop it is for dominion to succeed, for it to

cost fox billions. and what's more, for american companies to decide that, as long as rupert murdoch and fox are putting these devices, divisive, sociopathic liars on the air, companies are not going to advertise there anymore. the only way to stop a corporation that has gone completely off the rails and is tearing the country completely apart is to say, i'm going to stop paying for that. and this is what has to happen. in terms of the broader opportunity to rewrite history, you have to stop enabling people like kevin mccarthy around the house of representatives. it has to be both an attack on that foxes profit at all cost motive, and putting someone like kevin mccarthy in charge of an institution of government. >> and kevin mccarthy knows that it was so violent that he was removed from the capitol, push in a car, and driven away to another location, and military location. that is how dangerous it was.

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