thing, i don't need the extras, that fine, too. just meet me here tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. eastern. keep it locked because "the reidout" with joy reid is coming up next. tonight on "the reidout" -- >> student debt cancellation will change and save lives. the court knows president biden has a legal authority to cancel student debt. and they have a clear and simple choice here, uphold the law and we can call it a day. >> that's congresswoman ayanna pressley speaking passionately about the need for student loan debt relief with the conservative supreme court majority poised to possibly kill president biden's relief plan. congresswoman pressley will join me. also tonight in some of the red states with new abortion restrictions, exceptions were built into those laws. but few of those exceptions are actually being granted.

putting women's lives at risk. plus, house republicans finally have their chance to hold hearings on their anti-fauci, anti-mask conspiracy theories. as a government report raises new questions about the origin of the virus. we begin "the reidout" tonight with history repeating itself, because here's the thing. when you try to erase it like the florida governor wants to do, you are doomed to repeat it. over the weekend, "the new york times" published a stunning account of more than 100 migrant children, largely from central america, who according to the times reporting, were working overnight shifts and dangerous jobs for companies large and small throughout the u.s. according to the report, children stitch made in america tags into j. crew shirts in los angeles. they bake dinner rolls sold at a walmart and target. process milk used in ben & jerry's ice cream, and helped debone chicken sold at whole foods as recently as this

fall, middle schoolers made fruit of the loom socks in alabama. in michigan, children make odd auto parts used by ford and general motors. nearly all of us are likely buying and using goods fabricated by children's hands. we're all implemented in this story. these migrant children are under intense pressure to send money home to their families or to the people who sponsor them in the united states. many of them extorting the children for smuggling fees, rent, and living expenses. these children are ostensibly under the purview of the department of health and human services who assign them case workers to make sure they're cared for while in this country. "the new york times" reports in interviews with more than 60 case workers most independently estimated that about two-thirds of all unaccompanied migrant children ended up working full time. michigan congresswoman hillary scholten who has one of these

factories in her district is rightly appalled. >> stories of kids dropping out of school, collapsing from exhaustion, and even losing limbs to machinery. these are the things that one might expect to find in a charles dickens or upton sinclair novel, but not in an account of everyday life in america in 2023. surely, not here in the land of the free, where child labor protections have been on the books for nearly a century. >> to be clear, this is outsourced labor. none of these companies intentionally hire children, as far as the reporting has shown. and when asked by the times, a number of them said they would investigate the claims or sever ties with the companies who helped outsource the jobs. but again, their decisions implicate all of us because we benefit from the blood, sweat, and tears of these child laborers. you have probably chowed down on a bowl of cheerios packed by a teenager or enjoyed a bowl of ben & jerry's ice cream made by

milk processed by a child labor. sanitation services paid a $1 million fine for employing 102 children to work in dangerous meat packing facility jobs across eight states and last summer, reuters discovers kids as young as 12, many of them migrants, were working at a metal stamping plant owned by hyundai. last week, nbc reported that packer sanitation services disciplined an employee who hired the same known minor twice under two different identities. and if the story sounds like some pre-20th century horror story, that might be because you know history. while some folks so happen to work in tallahassee, florida, might not want you to remember, america's first big business was slavery, and indentured servitude. millions of young men women, and children were the fuel that created the booming economy of

this country, and any number of goods produced by that labor benefitted from it. from the insurance companies to the shippers to the end users here and around the world. it made southern planters richer than they could have ever imagined back in england. then after the civil war, during the industrial revolution when american companies still wanted the cheapest possible labor and more and more of it, children became the ideal employees. they were smaller, cheaper, and uneducated which meant they were less likely to complain. in 1938, congress passed the fair labor standards act which effectively banned oppressive child labor and barred children under the age of 16 from holding non-agricultural jobs and made it so teens from 16 to 18 could not do hazardous employment. notice that they let the farms keep the exploitation going, which is why southern senators fought to successfully exclude black worker from those protections by leaving farm workers and domestic workers

out, which were still the low paid jobs held by most african americans including children. still, the fair labor act did establish a standard rule for labor practices, practices that are being skirted to this day. according to daa from the u.s. labor department's wage and hour division, child labor violations have been on the rise since 2015. modern day republicans led by the twice impeached former president have led the charge on deregulation and just like east palestine, ohio, in east palestine, ohio, donald trump and his various agencies proposed rolling back regulations that protected workers and children. one usda food safety official openly admitted that safety wasn't a top priority because, quote, we don't regulate worker safety. at the occupational safety and health administration, trump officias sought to loosen reporting requirements for injury and illness data for large companies and at one point, his department of labor sought to unwind decades-old

youth labor protections by allowing teenagers to work longer hours under some of the most hazardous workplace conditions. states across this country took the baton from trump and went even further. in iowa, republican legislators who have a supermajority introduced a bill to expand the types of work that 14 and 15-year-olds would be permitted to do as part of approved training programs. the bill would extend allowable work hours and exempt employers from liability if workers are sickened, injured or killed on the job. minnesota is looking to pass similar legislation. and yesterday, the biden administration announced that it was creating a new task force to crack down on exploitation of the illegal -- the illegal exploitation of migrant children for labor in the united states. enforcement of child labor laws will most likely be a top issue for julie su, president biden's newly announced nominee for secretary of labor.

she would be the biden administration's first aapi cabinet secretary. joining me is charles blow and maria teresa kumar president of latino and msnbc contributor. i'm going to start with you, charles, because you have the disadvantage of not being at the table with us. when i read this story, which is horrific, and i hope everyone will read it if you can fete through the pay wall, it sounded like indentures servitude to me. these kids essentially have to send money home to their families. they are going to school in some cases full time, on no sleep because they're working all night. they're literally child laborers creating everything you could imagine that we use. consumer wise. >> absolutely. you know, and it is a heartbreaking, heartbreaking story because you put yourself in the shoes of these children. first of all, they should never have to make the decisions that they are having to make. beginning with having to trek alone to this country, but many

of them feel they have no other choice, that the economic conditions and the social conditions and the political conditions in their own countries are so horrible that they would leave family and walk alone for all that distance and then to get here and be placed with a sponsor who may or may not be looking out for your interests as all. one of the things that comes through in the story is some of the sponsors appear to be running some sort of, you know, money making pimping proposition. no other way for me to phrase this. i mean, they're making money off the children. they encourage some of the children to go out and get this work. if they send them to school, they get the work after they go to school. none of us on this screen right now are working the hours that some of these children are working. it is incredible, and they have no choice or they feel like they have no choices.

and the federal government is falling down on the job. they're just not being able to track this many children and there were tens of thousands of children that they basically just lost track of. what do you mean, you lost track of tens of thousands of children? it is an incredible heartbreaking story. >> it's interesting. you and i were in south texas a few years ago, when i was doing my weekend show. we met all all these kids who have am on their own. they were being held and hhs was ostensibly responsible for them, and you know, it was clear that they weren't able to track theparence, weren't able to track the families. talk a little more about this vicious cycle, because some of these kids are willingly leaving their families because they're afraid their families will starve in guatemala, so they say i'm going to go, or their parents couldn't make it throw so they're coming and being literally exploited.

>> the best part of this "new york times" investigative reporting is that we finally have blown the lid off what the majority of latinos in the country know what's happening. the fact we see so many corporations right now turning a blind eye saying they don't know, that is not true because the way this operation works and i will give you a little bit of under the hood, my family used to work in labor, in the wine country. and i would ask my grandfather who worked the fields. how do you find the people who work with you? he said, oh, the vineyards, they subcontract the coyote, the human trafficker, and the human trafficker goes and basically through whatsapp and other mechanisms tells people how men a people they need and how much they're going to need and they bring them across the board and bring them to the fields and they say i don't know how these people got there. what this investigative reporting shows is people are now caught up and the question to ask is why are they leaving their countries? in guatemala, it's because of climate change. they literally cannot harvest in

their own homes. but then you have individuals that are clearly these coyotes that are saying i can sponsor up to 20 children. shame on the u.s. government that they are not cracking down on them, but also shame on the corporations who also say they do not know, because we know that is such an intricate way these individuals actually are hiring undocumented labor, whether it's children or adults, because what they die is say i'm going to contract from a subcontractor who will contract from a subcontractor and i'm basically legally not bound. shame on them. >> the thing about it is the business, i say these things all the time to them repeatedly on a loop, but this country, capitalism, the basis of america's capitalist enterprise in the very beginning was free labor. free labor. which built an empire in this country. made the southern states super rich until they lost the free labor. ever since then, america's big

business and big agriculture has been trying to find a way to repolice the free labor with labor that's as cheap as they can get. there's nothing cheaper than a child who can't fight back, who can't unionize. we have replaced black enslaved labor with undocumented labor and accused people of being illegal as if they're the ones breaking the law. >> i want to say, such a sophisticated operation of recruitment that happens. people, most of them don't show up without a job. they already know the job they're destined to go. they know exactly where they're going to go, whether they're going to be doing construction, whether they're in the meat packing district. these are the skills specifically asked for from the subcontractor. this is what we need to have a conversation with because republicans are going to try to absolve themselves from this responsibility, but one of the reasons they're exploiting child labor is we don't have an immigration policy that allows people to come out of the shadows and negotiates what is

the labor we need to maintain our industries. >> isn't the reason we don't have these policies, charles, because these big businesses don't want to pay the kind of labor costs they have to pay to hire an adult who can fight back and form a union? they want it cheap, and so everyone is looking the other way and pretending, i didn't know how chicken nuggets were made, i'm just selling chicken nuggets. they have to know at some level. it's all about cheap labor. >> yes, but not only are the corporations responsible here, american citizens are also responsible here. we got so addicted -- >> we lost charles. oh, no. i think we lost him. i can almost finish his thought. we love cheap stuff. we love to buy things that don't cost a lot of money. we want it the cheapest and we don't want to think about where it comes from. people want the nuggets but they don't want to think about the poor chicken and what it's dealing with.

>> it's unseemly. the way you opened the show, everyone is complicit in this. the only way we make changes is demand that tyson chickens changes their laws and there are repercussions for individuals that are not just based on fines. >> i was shook when i read this story because i'm thinking, i use that, i use that, i use that. we're all implicated on that. charles blow, i'm sorry with the issues with technology. and maria teresa kumar. patients are struggling to get abortions even when exceptions to state bans theoretically should apply. stay with us. when covid hit, we had some challenges. i heard about the payroll tax refund that allowed us to keep the people that have been here taking care of us. learn more at getrefunds.com.

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she said the sack looks good. baby does not. honestly, nothing could have prepared me for the weight of those words in that moment. there was concern that if i tried to just take something or pass the baby at home, that i might have trouble and have to be transported and all that. it just wasn't something that seemed like a very good option. so we decided to go to the hospital, get checked in there. and go through the process of a dnc. >> reality tv fans may know of

jessica duggar sewall from the show 19 kids and counting. they followed her religious and anti-abortion family through the 2000s. she shared on youtube she was recovering from a dnc, that is a common medical procedure used in cases of dangerous unwanted or nonviable pregnancies. it removes tissue from inside your uterus, meaning a dnc is literally an abortion. duggar didn't say that part, saying only that she had a miscarriage. the heartbreak and risks of miscarriage are profound for anyone, but duggar is also someone who in 2014 said abortion is the holocaust of our time. the admission has put a spotlight on how privilege determines who is able to receive this kind of care. something that is increasingly difficult to do even with so-called exceptions in place. those women and girls who are not so lucky include the 10-year-old rape survivor who had to cross state lines for an

abortion. and a woman whose miscarriage left her bleeding profusely only to be sent home from the e.r. and told to wait. meanwhile, in texas, conservatives are making good on their promise to make the abortion even more difficult to obtain. one texas judge, a trump appointee, is set to rule on a lawsuit that seeks to restrict access to one of the two drugs typically used to induce a medicated abortion nationwide. joining me is former texas state senator, wendy davis, the new senior adviser of texas planned parenthood votes and political arm for planned parenthood affiliates in the state. wendy davis, always great to talk with you. the duggar case is interesting in that, you know, what she described as a dnc is an abortion. and yet, she characterized it as a miscarriage. i wonder if even that, if anybody who wasn't last named duggar was to try to get the same procedure, if they could even legally get that in texas. >> you know, joy, we have always

known that when these abortion bans went into place in texas and elsewhere, abortion was going to become something that privileged people could access and others could not. and honestly, i'm glad that she was able to get the care that she needed. but the point is that everyone should be able to get that care. and what's happening on the ground in texas today, doctors are absolutely terrified to provide needed care even if arguably it fits an exception in the law. because if they are penalized as having carried out an illegal abortion in the state of texas, that means up to life in prison for them. and it's stopping doctors even from providing miscarriage management, true miscarriage management, to patients who are needing that kind of care. and creating such a terrible and

desperate situation for people all over our state and in other states where abortion is now prohibited. >> just to go through what they have to say about texas, it's one of the most restrictive states. patients are forced to make two trips, use of medicaid and private health insurance is bans. parental consent is required for a minor, care is severely restricted. before roe was over turned, there were 17,000 procedures. after roe, it went down to 74. so they have in the state of texas essentially ended abortion care. but that has not ended crisis pregnancies, that has not meant women are still not in medical emergencies where they need a dnc. it's just now that women have to essentially be bleeding to death before a doctor will care for them, right? >> that's exactly right. one of the things that's become so clear in all of this, joy, is that this was never really about

abortion. in fact, right now, the attorney general in texas is literally trying to sue planned parenthood and the health care it provides to patients across this state every single day out of existence. because that's the point. and they're also, as you pointed out a moment ago, trying to block the use of the drug, not only in texas but in every single state in this country. and what we have known for a long time here in texas is that this is ground zero for this fight. and whatever is happening here, i promise you, it is going to come to your state, even if you think right now it's not. and that's why we all have to be in this fight together, supporting organizations like planned parenthood, texas votes, and others who are fighting every day to restore the kind of care that texans and others in

this country need every single day. >> and i want to talk about this issue of exceptions because republicans sort of, their pr is that oh, no, don't worry, we have exceptions. this is the map of the states, 26 states that supposedly have exceptions. but here's the problem. news magazine reports exceptions make abortion bills seem less inhumane than they are, because the issue is for instance if there's a rape exception, they make it very difficult for you to use it because they're like, you have to have reported it in this amount of time. if it's a rape inside the family, women might not have reported it at all. they make it so hard to use the exceptions that the exceptions actually don't work. have you seen a case in which exceptions actually help a woman get the abortion care she needs? >> i personally do not know of a case like that in texas right now. and i suppose if the statistics

that you read earlier are correct, it appears maybe some have been able to get that care. but let's face it. we have been working on the issue of rape and trying to solve that issue in states like texas for a long time. meanwhile, we have had thousands of rape kit tests sitting in evidence room shelves, not addressing that, because women are not believed. and so if they're not believed in the instance of prosecuting a rape case, how are they going to believe -- be believed as a rape exception to an abortion ban? these exceptions like you said a minute ago, they're really just window dressing to make these bans look more acceptable, but they're absolutely not working in practice. and we feared that they wouldn't. and unfortunately, right now, what that means is for the 1 in 3 women who live in a state that bans abortion care across this country, they are not able to

get the care that they currently need. and this is a fight we all need to be in together and working, of course, to make sure as we are here at planned parenthood texas votes, to assure that every person can get their health care and that they can live the full and vibrant life that they deserve. >> i mean, if you can't force women to give birth against their will, how will you have the american born cheap labor they don't want to create laws for when it comes to foreign born child and cheap labor? my comment, not yours. wendy davis, thank you very much. up next, president biden's popular student loan debt relief plan is in jeopardy, but the supreme court with its ultra conservative majority hearing multiple challenges to it today. congresswoman ayanna pressley joins me next.

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loan debt. justice sotomayor ruled arguing against the biden administration would be changing congress' words because we don't think we like what's happening. >> there's 50 million students who are, will benefit from this who today will struggle. many of them don't have assets sufficient to bail them out after the pandemic. they don't have friends or families or others who can help them make these payments. and what you're saying is, now we're going to give judges the right to decide how much aid to give them. instead of the person with the expertise and the experience, the secretary of education, who has been dealing with educational issues and the problems surrounding student loans. >> and this was going on, hundreds of protesters rallied

outside the high court in support of the president's program, including congresswoman ayanna pressley. >> like millions of black borrowers denied the ability to build generational wealth, i know the burden of student loan debt. i know what it is to land in default when your family is tripped up on economic hard times. and i want to talk about the shame that many borrowers carry. i'm beyond grateful to each of you who shared your story to make the case for national student debt cancellation, but let me be clear. the shame was never yours to carry. the only shame is that this nation has birdered families with this crushing debt, but we changed that. joining me is congresswoman ayanna pressley of massachusetts. thank you for being here. you know, this whole debate strikes me as very odd. that there's a question of whether this president has the legal authority to do bailouts. i'm old enough to remember the

airline industry getting bailed out in 2001 for $15 billion. general motors and chrysler getting $17 million in bailouts. coronavirus airline bailout was $21 billion. it's not like the government has done bailouts before. does it surprise you just this one is controversial? >> well, it's not surprising because of who the obstruction is coming from. these republican officials, corporate interests, callous and disconnected from the hardship that everyday people are experiencing, from every walk of life. these lawsuits are frivolous and they are partisan. the president clearly has the legal authority, and we just need the supreme court to uphold the law. >> and i will note that these previous bailouts took place under republicans. and so they did not ignite the kind of furor. i also seem to recall that there are members of congress,

including marjorie taylor greene, matt gaetz, vern buchanan, markwayne mullin, mike kelly, but i know greene and gaetz who received massive forgivable student loans from the government, ppp loans, while they were serving in congress. and they don't seem to have a problem with being able to be bailed out, have their businesses bailed out by the government they work for. >> well, moreover, joy, some 40 million plus people stand to benefit from this relief. in the four weeks that the president's action was live or going into effect, some 26 million people applied. and in my district in massachusetts, 70% already applied. so republicans want to play with people's lives. democrats are here to change and save people's lives. and we will do that by insuring that those that are burdened by

this debt feel the relief. we organized for the pause on student loan payments and heard from people how impactful that was. people were able to use those funds to keep a roof over their head, to pay for child care, and other essential costs. there are people paying monthly payments the equivalent of a mortgage payment. this is an economic justice issue, a racial justice issue giving the disparate burden on black and brown borrowers. 1 in 4 black borrows would have their debt zeroed out completely. this is a gender justice issue. out of this $2 trillion debt, two-thirds is on the shoulders of women. again, this is people from every walk of life. if society is to be judged by how we take care of our babies and our elders, we are failing because when i have a 76-year-old grandmother crying to me that she's afraid she's going to die still paying on this debt, on a fixed income, whose benefits have been garnished because she is still paying on loans at this point

more than she took out, and when you have a whole generation whose path we are making harder than our own even was, because they're choked by this debt, they can't purchase a home, start a business, grow a family. when i have teachers who took on this debt because they wanted to be nation builders and educate our babies and they can't afford child care for their own babies and a monthly minimum, and some have even contemplating suicide. the point here, joy, is we can do something about it. the president clearly has the legal authority. and i need the supreme court to uphold the law. and we will keep organizing and applying pressure until this is done. just like we were negotiating with the white house until 7:00 in the morning, until there was action taken. >> very quickly, given the status of the house right now, if this is overturned, is there any hope that anything could actually get through congress to

formalize this student loan debt relief? >> joy, i'm not seeing anything. i can't stop, and this movement won't stop. executive action is the most precise and effective way to bring about this relief to the 40 million plus borrowers who are eligible for it, who are crippled by this, who are burdened by this every single day. so executive action is the most effective and efficient and precise way to get this done. and i'm not ceding defeat here. the supreme court needs to uphold the law, the president and the secretary of education clearly have the legal authority. >> i'm going to note before we go that brett kavanaugh, one of the people who will be making this decision, had $60,000 to $200,000 in debt accrued over three credit cards and a loan. those credit cards debts and loans were somehow paid off by the time he was confirmed. no one has answered yet how that happened, and there are still no

ethics rules for these people, these conservatives who are going to be making this decision. i just want to note that for the record. congresswoman ayanna pressley. >> the hypocrisy is rich. more of the same. >> more of the same. thank you, congresswoman. much appreciated. coming up, as republicans exploit scientific skepticism with a new subcommittee on covid, there are now serious questions about the origin of the virus. given the current political atmosphere, are we even capable of having an intelligent conversation about that? we'll be right back. what, are we rich?! ♪ ♪ are we rich? we could get a personal chef! i heard about this guy on the news that, that serves a very rare species of fish. highly illegal. he's wanted by interpol. we could have his scary fish whenever we want! - we're not rich... i used kayak to compare hundreds of travel sites to get a great deal on our flight, car, and hotel. - oh. - kayak. search one and done.

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today, mccarthy politics were on display with the first get-together of the newly created house subcommittee on the covid pandemic with the likes of marjorie greene and dr. ronny jackson leading the charge. i think you can guess how it went. >> i would make the argument right now, right here on tv, that we do more harm than good by treating people with booster shots. >> children truly suffered in masks were completely child abuse. >> what we have now is a complete lack of trust and confidence in the public health sector, complete lack. that's due to a coordinated spread of misinformation and disinformation that was for political gain for the most part and a lot of part by public health officials. >> good lord. dr. ronny seems a bit confused about who was providing disinformation for political gain. this clown show was designed to excite the conservative base but it's part of a real threat to the country, perpetuating the notion you should mistrust

everything you're told by the scientific community. what we know is more than 1.1 million americans have died from covid sis the first confirmed death three years ago today. there's another story out this week that is equally troubling. the energy department has assessed with low confidence, meaning the information's credibility is questionable, that the covid-19 pandemic likely originated from a lab in wuhan, china. a claim rejected by many in the scientific community early on. tonight, fbi director christopher wray says the fbi is in agreement. >> as you note, the fbi has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in wuhan. >> now, keep in mind other intelligence agencies still hold to their contensions it was likely the transmission from an animal. we were told the lab leak theory was not a legitimate line of

inquiry, so what are we to think? this is not to say the scientific community is trying to pull one over on us. covid-19 was a novel virus, never seen before. our country's scientists did what they were trained to do, make assessments on the information available and reassess as more information is provided. the problem is that all of this has become so politicized and exploited by the right that when any new assessments are made, it's presented as proof that anything previously said by scientific leaders was all lies. it comes at a time where we need to have trust in science even more because the next pandemic could be coming. joining me is dr. patel, former obama white house policy director and an msnbc medical contributor. and you know, the challenge we have, dr. patel, is right now, the confidence that people have in the science, in the medical community, this is a morning consult poll, how much do you trust the cdc? a lot or some, 67%, not bad. one-third.

the white house, 52%. not much, not at all, nih, 36%. and then morning consult also asked how much do you trust public health institutions to manage a future pandemic? a lot, 55%, but still a good third of the country that seems to not trust the science at all. and i think we can guess which third that is. how dangerous in that environment is it for us to even talk about, which you should be able to talk about, this theory about the lab leak? >> yeah, joy, it's unfortunate because for decades we have been calling, and when i say we, scientists, clinicians, laboratory experts have been calling for better standardization, oversight, and resources. we have a number of countries that are underresourced for just basic lab provisions. so i think that all of this is leading to what has amounted to some sort of government conspiracy by biden officials to cover up some sort of lab leak. this is the truth. we will likely never come to

some definitive conclusion about what happened. we know that the wuhan market was a superspreader event. was that the result of a natural spillover from animals to humans? was it a lab leak, was it something even horrible to consider, which is something intentional and bioengineered to create this much death and havoc? all of those possibilities will likely remain in people's minds because we're just not going to have 100%, but to your point, we have reached such skepticism that could you imagine going to congress and saying even if a lab leak is plausible, what can we do to move forward? , instead of moving forward. by the way, that includes me, except in that there were things i got wrong, things that everybody could probably said we could've done better, but the current dialogue does not allow for that humility or for the ability to move forward. >> it shows me that christopher wray would take his act to fox news to talk to them.

this is the network that deliberately lied about the election, laughed about it behind the backs of their viewers but then put people on the air when they themselves believed that there were lies about the election. it is hard for me to fathom that he would take this particular piece of information too. we've had this atmosphere where violence against asian americans resulted from the obsessive anti china rhetoric that we got from the previous president. are you concerned that even us having what should be a rational conversation about china, which has not been super transparent, let's be clear, about covid, could be dangerously even had this conversation? >> yeah, a stain just had a conversation without even understanding the entire scope of what we are talking about. we're not talking about one rational, ethnic, any sort of group of people, yet that is exactly what people are hearing. everyone points fingers that china -- at the end of the day, this was

absolutely a novel virus, number one. number two, how it got here and spread to this degree of chaos is something that we all deserve answers to. but even the hearing today that the subcommittee convened, joy, i did not hear any of that rational dialogue. i just heard people saying things like, i got a booster and i still got infected. i was told i needed to have x, y and z, there was a mandate. the thing that really appalled me as a physician is that i heard about all these rates of mental health and issues that are right to bring up, but nobody talked about the fact that we are denying people access to care, that were cutting off medicaid, access to insurance for people, and that is what people should concentrate on, how to provide a safety net to a world that has literally been killed by a virus. that does not happen. unfortunately, joy, that will not happen anytime soon in this climate. >> yeah, unfortunately, it all

has become political and ideological and wild and not good. doctor kavita patel, thank you, we always appreciate you. coming up next on the readout, this year's black history month concludes with an uplifting ceremony from the survivors of the most violent hateful events that ever happened in this country. stay with us. y. stay with us

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who as young children, lived at the one of the worst atrocities of racist terrorist violence in american history, when a white mob burned and looted, with the help of u.s. military jets, bombed the prosperous tulsa oklahoma, known as black wall street. the survivors, all now over 100 years old, witnessed indescribable horror, but they also seen so many other tragedies and triumphs of the acentria black history. they lived through the struggle a civil rights and the assassination of dr. moore in the king junior and so many other, but also the election of the first black president, bought obama, as well as the first black woman vice president, kamala harris. they were on hand as joe biden became the first american president to visit tulsa and acknowledged the hell they entered. they are still fighting for reparations for the city of tulsa and other entities, but they are also living their best lives. in 2021, two survivors, miss

fletcher and miss van ellis flew more than 6000 miles to ghana and were given a family welcome in the motherland. today, they came full circle. traveling to ghana's embassy here in washington d.c. where they were awarded canadian citizenship as part of ghana's remembrance day, a celebration of their african roots and testament to their resilience. nearly 210 years of history between them and standing in victory over a and violence, a literal living testament to black history. we love to see it, and that is tonight's read out. all in with chris hayes starts right now. h chri>> tonight on all in -- >> we put a different point, if you like. it was fair and balanced. >> the man behind the current gives up the game in sworn deposition. >> working class people, particularly in the countryside,