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good evening, welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, on the precipice, it seems that all we can do is wait. president biden set russian president vladimir putin has made the decision to invade
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ukraine within days, though it's not too late to return to the negotiating table. vice president harris was in munich, pledging swift action against russia if an attack should happen. new york senator kiersten gillibrand joins us in a moment. right behind her, we look at tensions here at home. and enden with dual justices in minnesota, as i helped amir lock's family lay hem to rest, delivering that eulogy in
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minneapolis, as protests continue over his police shooting death. and i saw a judge nearly cry as she gave a sentence, less than a third of recommended sentence of a -- a recommended sentence for manslaughter of daunte wright, another eulogy i delivered, another result i accept, but firmly condemn. intense week of news. you know we will get to all of it. joining me now is snort kiersten jill brand, democrat of new york, and member of both the senate select intelligence and armed services committee. senator, thank you for joining us tonight at this very tense time. given your positions both on the senate select intelligence and affirmed services committee, do you share the president's impression expressed in his
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address last night that russia undoiedly intention to and russia is not snead any intentions to --. swift, severe and united response promised by the vice president today in munich. as they still struggle to agree on punitive measures, what should sanction punishment look like? >> they could be aggressive and extreme li punitive. what president biden has laid out is a set of economic sanctions to really shut down the make the economy come to halt. those kind of sanctions are among the most strict and punishing sanctions you can have. russia relying on two major
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banks to do most of their banking, they launder money through eastern europe, and these are the kind of sanctions we can place that makes business hard to do. >> how important is it that president biden's supreme court pick have bipartisan support? because at least some of your republican collection have not retreated from attacking the premises on the basis of his pledge to nominate a black woman, which they have cast as racist. the president's pick has not been made publicly, at least yet. what is your response to him, and the sum of your republican colleagues? i think those who have made absurd statements are wrong and are irresponsible in their use of language.
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jurists who have vivid a level of -- another one is on a circuit, another on a local court, and their track record is very established and wide ranging. so, two of them have had republican support, one in her confirmation for her can't position, and then another candidate, who is being considered from south carolina has the verbal support of lindsey graham, so these are very, very highly qualified women who would all maybe excellent supreme court justices. we stand ready to review their nomination swiftly. we will immediately call the judiciary committee into a review and confirmation proceedings, and we will vote.
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>> it seems like republicans -- they didn't call that sexist, but senator, i know you have school-age children, many states including new york are in the midst of lifting covid restrictions, except for hospitals, day cares and schools. elsewhere, virginia, north carolina, washington state, state-issued school mask mandates are coming down with new york slated to review the school's policy early next month. is the timing right, or too soon in your opinion? >> i can speak on the behalf the my children. they're definitely tired of masks. they want things to go back to normal. people are just so angry about covid, the types of restrictions that have been needed. they just want life to go back to normal.
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we're trying to follow science, and making sure -- young children still don't have access to the vaccines. we want to make sure and i know she'll be listening to everyone in that decision. these are tough decisions, but they're porch to maintain the judgment. in that commune safe. >> i will seal the senate pass your bill with lindsey graham, end the -- can you tell us what that means for american workers generally, but foremost for working women? >> immediately it changes the
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employment contracts of 60 million people. you sign an employment contract, you don't realize you're signing your way to a constitutional right to acu, forced confidential, and often nondisclosure agreements. if you want to call out or harass in your workplace, you may not be able to go to a jury trial to get justice. we know these arbitration proceedings are often biased toward the employer. they result in a much smaller awards if you are found to have portland put forward a claim, but under this law, which the the should be signs very soon
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they can ask for justice. another thing that i'm pleased to see, i believe before, as we see marijuana cup legal to make sure that people of color, facts who have disproportionately suffered how cannabis laws have been impacting different communities, back and white people. and have horrible consequences because of it. they might be denied jobs, might be denied loans, they might have different ranks and so from a
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social justice perspective. it's important that we decriminalize -- and were arrested for possession. second, there's the medical issue. we need to may sure that whether its for ptsd for veterans, whether it's for people who have m.s., particularly people who have children with various disorders this is the best treatment for them. last, the economic perspective. billions of dollars will be invested over the next ten years. how these laws were enforced, so that means black and brown business owners be during this timers and be xhefrt sales.
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as it continues to grow over the next decade. >> i'm not surprised the first public speech you made when you became senator was the house of justice. you've been on these issues for a while. senator gillibrand, thank you for being with us. i'm glad you -- regretfully, i was there to eulogize the late amir locke, as that family seeks answer in his police shooting death earlier this month. of course, i was always thinking about the sentencing hearing of
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former minneapolis police officer kim potter, sentenced to 24 months for first-degree manslaughter of daunte wright in april. that's handed down by what appeared to be a presiding judge wiping away a tear, who cited a lack of aggravating factors to less than a third of the state's recommended sentence. you have eulogized both, and in less than one year, and i simply state at least one thing i believe to be obvious. that's, it asks so much of black american to look at the judge's emotion from the bench yesterday, and in and out imagine the inversion of that scenario.
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potentially killing a law enforcement officer, in assumedself defense. i cannot imagine judicial eye motion would flow so freely in that case. i think we can both imagine that a maximum sentence would. your response, counselor? >> well, reverend, first of all, thank you for giving a history lesson at amir's funeral. we know the no-knock warrants are disproportionately instituted against black people. what happens -- daunte wright -- it is just so disappointing reverend sharpton, when you think about the judge -- that's less than most black people who were convicted for selling marijuana that is not legal in
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most states, and this white policewoman killed a young man. she gets less than that. we see a white woman get all the consideration in a world.
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of the man who murdered ahmad ar berry asked them -- through several witnesses, who testified to have been heard and seen racist language from the defendants, one contending she endured racist harassment. while they served tole in the military. what would a guilty ver do, as far as establishing a present in the future. parents of ahmaud arbery, and they were emphatic that they have this hate crime trial with -- chug very rare in america. normally we don't have these
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federal civil rights criminal trials, so -- civil rights -- leader of the department of justice, kirsten clark, for have been the conviction to say, based on the evidence, based on the evidence we have to have this lynch mob convicted of federal hail crime laws for lynching ahmaud arbery for jogging while black. you see the contrast there, reverend al, between what happened in minneapolis with kim potter, and now what happened in georgia, based on a lot of the preachers like yourself coming and standing. >> when 11 whites on the jury, only one black, and they convicted all of them and got life sentences. ben, do you feel any words or george zimmerman's defamation suits against the parents of jay
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von? the judge threw out zimmerman's defamation lawsuit, going to sue the parents for defamation, for calling him what he did. he killed their son. >> reverend al, you think about the irony of it on the week leading into the ten-year that raced the consciousness level, raised awareness of black lives matter, and obviously you and i have led the effort. i believe in doing that this week will bring more attention to the trayvon martin, and we're going to think about the convictions of derek chauvin, think about kim bodder and daunte wright, and we're going to remember trayvon martin. even though there was no conviction, it's his legacy ha
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hung large over all of those trials. we can never forget trayvon martin. >> as you said, you and i were involved -- there was no convention, they didn't even want to arrest george zimmerman. we had to fight to even get a trial. before we wrap up here, the prosecution has rested in the trial of three former minneapolis police officers that served under derek chauvin and were on site. two of those officers testified in their own against this we'll, as the lawyer here, what do federal convictions do in this case to effect future prosecutions? >> it knowledge affects future prosecutions, but also affects policing in america. i believe a lot of times it's the consult tore of policing
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that we have to hold accountability. even more than the excessive force, it's the culture where you see police officers see the bad apples, as they say, doing bad things, but yet they don't do anything about it. mcdonald, who is shot 16 times, and 14 officers saw it, and they lied on their police reports, where hopefully this trial is so significant, that if they are convicted, it was a message to police officers to do what you tell all of us in the neighborhood to do. if you see people breaking the law, then tell, don't try to cover up for them. if you want to -- they say, we don't want you to have this, so we can get rid of crime. you show us how to do it first. >> learn, attorney general of black america, ben crump, thank you for being with us and gives
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us details on such a busy week in civil rights. certainly not all good, but we will carry on. i'm calling on president biden to rise up and end racism at the border and help haitians. later, a week of legal headaches, as the walls are closing in on former trump, not just the former guy, but his children as well. first, my colleague rich ar. they forces are backed by russia, it is believed. analysts fear russia could use this infighting in ukraine as a pretex to for invasion. vice president harris also meeting with ukraine's president in germany. he warned of unprecedented.
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and in ottawa, authorities say they have made 47 arrests today, and towed 38 vehicles. in a french modeling agent, with link to jeffrey epstein, was found dead in his paris prison cell. the prosecutor's office says that he hung himself with his bedsheets. it comes three years also after jeffrey epstein was found dead in his cell. i want to show you this. take a look at this dramatic video from florida, sunny, miami beach, and then look up there. out of blue a helicopter drops on to the water. swim, the three people on board were injured, but they are okay. more "politics nation" right
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and it has fought to have the trump era public health rule called title xlii. trailing the policy if you're needed to keep the virus from spreading into american communities, but what the white house should know is that black migrants received disparate treatment in the immigration system, forcing them to return to dangerous situation. according to "new york times," non-government organizations have found that black migrants spend more time in solitaire confinement, move even than any other race and given higher bonds set by immigration judges. next month will mark two years
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since title xlii was reacted. it's time to bring it back into our immigration process. there needs to be some accountability for what's already happened. the biden administration has done great things to address this issue, about you it's time to rise up. the buck stops with you, mr. president. we'll be right back. with you, . president. we'll be right back.
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welcome back to "politics nation." there are several hot topics to cover with my panel. david, it was a week of legal
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setbacks for former president trump. let's start with a judge has rejected donald trump's effort to dismiss lawsuits accusing him for bearing legal responsibility for the attack on the capitol. what's your reaction? will this open them up to potential more lawsuits in. >> it very well could. understand this pin was over 100 pages. it essentially got at what was donald trump's actual role? what is his consciousness of guilty? in relatively non-legal terms, donald trump laid the predicate with a by lying, the election was stolen. he issued the invitation, and then he issued the charge -- go to the capitol with strength. what the judge said, it is relevant if donald trump knew that that might result in violence.
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did donald trump know that the proud boys were embedded in that crowd. what the judge refused to do was just dismiss everything against the former president, and said, no, there's enough evidence here that donald trump may have unclean hands and ultimately bear the legal responsibilities for the events of january 6th. more legal woes for donald trump that is the civil investigation into the trump organization. a judge ruled that donald trump and his two eldest children, don junior and ivanka, also must answer under oath about the company's business practice. do you think they will comply before the deadline? what impact would this testimony on have the investigation? >> i think they're going to do everything they can to resist complying. that's that are modus operandi for every proceeding. this guy is a walking command
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control lie-fest. he told more than 30,000 lies while he was president of the united states. he lies as easy as it is to breathe. i think that's an attorney's worst nightmare if you have donald trump as your client, that sets there under oath with the penalty of perjuring himself. i would be shocked if he complies. >> david, switching gears to a racial discrimination case against the nfl. new reporting reveals that pittsburgh steelers have fired the former head coach as their linebacker coach. this comes after the news that former u.s. attorney general loretta lynch was hired by the league to join the defense council. how does this change the dynamics of the case. what was your significant of the former attorney general lynch representing the nfl? >> it's very significant.
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first of all, the nfl has a hot met on their hands. this he will do every little thing they can to clean up. it's the old boys network, and that's what brian flores is challenging. so the entry of loretta lynch is significant. the nfl will suggest that she could provide the best counsel to ensure that justice is done between coach flores and the nfl, but i think it raises a lot of questions within the civil rights community as to loretta lynch's role in this. she is somebody that can be trusted. it will be interesting to see how she gets voice to this. >> i'll talking more about that later in this show about our concerns and i will move forward. nothing has changed in terms of fighting equity there. curt, as an adviser for the democratic congressional campaign committee, you're
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working to try to help the party hold on to their congressional majority. this week politico reported on research from the dccc, which shows republicans culture attack on issues like race are proving potent with voters who view democrats as preachy and, quote, judgmental. what can the party do to fight back? >> well, you know, rev, the head of the dccc talked about this on "morning joe" the other say, saying we neat to get back to selling. we have to assume the american people don't know about anything we have done. we're rebuilding, getting broadband to kids who don't have access, we're getting lead out of the water pipes. we have the bipartisan compete act, bringing manufacturing jobs back to this country. we're doing things that the american people want that reps have u.n. latry opposed.
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remember that rescue plan that we passed? we basically single handedly saved every small business in america. we offered a surge of resources of support for our the so-called party of law and order opposed it. we always have talked about on "morning joe" how republicans in their dna are incredibly brag dosius. we saw it for trump for four years. ds have to do a better job the taking credit. >> david jolly and curt bar della, thank you for your time this evening. coming up, she's been on the state supreme court bench. now she wants a seat on capitol hill. my next guest is among the wave of black women running for office, hoping to shake up washington politics. office, hopingtry boost glucose
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as the mid terms approach, one of the most highly contested races is expected to be in north carolina, where the first black woman to serve as chief justice on north carolina's supreme court is now a democratic candidate for the state's highly
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competitive senate race, running against either former republican congressman mark walker, or former republican governor pat mccrory. joining me now is sherrie beasley, first black woman to ever serve in the state's supreme court. thank you for joining me today. justice beasley, you are set to be the democratic candidate in these highly competitive race. you're running for senator. for the for the senate seat of richard byrd, who won election with just 51.1% of the vote, in a state where former president donald trump won with less than 50% of the state's vote in 2020. the late it's polling shows you slightly training behind. however, there's plenty of
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presume for that to change. first, tell us why did you decide to leave the supreme court bench and run for senate? >> thank you, reverend sharpton. my husband and i have raised our twin sons, and -- i have been a judge, i'm served as chief justice of the supreme court of north carolina. i have given my life to the state of north carolina, working hard to protect our rights, to make sure our communities were safe and viable and make sure we were applying the law to all people. people in north carolina want somebody who's going to fight for them to make sure they have access to health care, good pays jobs, their children have access to a good education, and we are lowering costs for people across the state. the same values i have shared
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here, i will take those to the united states senate. the reality is i know this race won't be easy. i've never run away from a tough fight. i certainly won't do that now. i know that i ran for the district court in fayetteville, north carolina, and people didn't think i would as a young mother and i was able to pin. i instituted paid family leave, because we didn't have a policy. people in north carolina are tired of politicians plays politics with their lives. i am the only candidate in this race who has had two successful statewide elections. i've been tested, so we're traveling across the north carolina, meeting people where they are, listen to go their concerns. i've committed to running this race hard and to winning this and serving the people of north carolina. >> as you know, only two black women have ever served in the united states state, one being
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vice president kamala harris. currently there are no bloom women in the senate. tell us why you think that is and what are some of the challenges for running for office? >> first, let me say representations matters. i remember the first time, as a lawyer i saw an african-american woman presiding in the courtroom. it was then judge timmons, and for me it was life changing it matters that our institutions, our united states state senate expressed diversity and makes us better, so many challenges, but we know it's possible.
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we know there are obvious barriers to seeking office, particularly at this high level. >> as president biden is set to replace the next retiring justice on the supreme court, he received backlash for promising to fill this seat for a black woman. as you are the first black woman to serve in north carolina's supreme court, while i have you, what is your reaction to the absolute of criticism biden has received for this? >> the reality is these kinds of comments are just foolish. we node it does matter. there is a host of candidates who are very talented and capable. i hope who are the nominee is receives a fair process, as this nomination goes forward. >> cheri beasley, thank you for
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exactly two weeks ago tonight brian flores, the former head coach in miami and his lawyer sat in this studio with me and outlined their lawsuit that they had filed against the nfl charging discrimination and saying that he was wrongfully
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dismissed. today it was announced by the pittsburgh steelers and he would be given a job. that's good. he should earn a living. i learned from his legal team that will not stop them one iota this class action lawsuit based on discrimination. this week i as president of national action network join other civil rights leaders, derrick johnson, melliny campbell and others in a second zoom meeting with nfl commissioner roger goodell, and he had four owners including the owners of the steelers that did hire mr. flores today, and we told them point blank that they need to not only deal with this
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lawsuit, that hiring loretta lynch's lawyer could be good because her sensitivity may make them resolve it without trying to drag it through a lengthy arbitration. we knew her when she was the attorney general. i knew her when she was attorney in the eastern district. we hope they do not think they're playing with us. we hope they put up to resolve this. but they must also deal with the broader issue of the systemic racism in the nfl and the history of that in the nfl. there has never, ever in the history of the nfl been a black owner of a team, 32 football teams. there has been only up to six black coaches when almost 70% of the players are black. so we are not only going to continue to support the lawsuit. we're going to continue to fight the nfl to come with fairness and equity. the hiring of flores will not
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live hour of "politicsnation." katie phang picks up our news coverage now. >> thanks, reverend sharpton. hello, everyone. i'm kaie phang. i'm in for alicia mendes and we begin with american voices. here's how defense secretary lloyd austin put it today in lithuania. >> for months now russia has been building up its military forces in and aroundbelarus. they're uncoiling and are now poised to strike. >> new video from eastern ukraine shows ukrainian military officials under attack by pro-russian separatists. they were forced to take cover in a bomb shelter. "the wall street journal" reports those russian-backed rebels have issued a call to arms for all men in the russian breakaway regions of eastern ukraine, but there'