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your body will thank you. (announcer) find out more at aerotrainer.com. that's aerotrainer.com. sgroods afternoon. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we have a lot of ground to cover and a team of correspondents helping us do it including this disturbing scene caught on tape. >> i didn't do anything. >> back up. >> hold on. what's going on. >> hold on. >> i just -- >> an active duty soldier pepper sprayed and dragged out of his car by police. a live report on that can coming up ahead of week three of the murder trial of former police
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officer derek chauvin in the killing of george floyd and a tale of two presidents, joe biden moving ahead with his second big legislative action while donald trump uses a return to the spotlight to tee off not on joe biden, but on his fellow republicans. and voting rights under attack across this country, a reality check on where the threat is the worst. but we want to start with that disturbing body cam video of an army lieutenant traffic stop in windsor have a. vonn hillyard is covering the story for us. thanks for joining us on this. i have to say the video is disturbing to watch. what do we know about what led to the release of this video and the lead up to that confrontation? >> yeah. yasmin, good afternoon. this took place west of norfolk, virginia here, and it was on december 5th. several months ago now. but this video footage is now just coming to us here after a lawsuit was filed by this ari
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melber -- army lieutenant against two officers of the police department who attempted to, they say, in this police report pull him over the night of december 5th. nazaro says he drove about a mile and a half to a well lit gas station, put on his hazard lights but wanted to go to an area not as dark. the police claim that he did not have a license plate. the reason for pulling him over. he says he did have a temporary plate that was attached to his window. nonetheless, what you saw were several minutes of this video here in which you see the hands of lieutenant, a current service member, holding his hands out of the window in which you see ultimately one of those officers, officers gutierrez, spray him with pepper spray before taking him out of the vehicle, putting him on to his knees and the lieutenant alleging that he struck him multiple times in the back as he
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arrested him. i want to let everybody see some of this footage. take a watch. >> straight on to the ground. >> what's going on you're fixing to -- >> get out of the car. >> you received an order. obey it. >> i'm -- i'm afraid to get out. >> you should be. get out. >> back up. >> whoa. hold on. what's going on. hold on. >> get out of the car and get on the ground now or you're going to get it again. >> i don't want to reach for my seat belt. >> take your seat belt off and get out of the car. >> yasmin, you heard the lieutenant nazaro repeatededly say what is going on. we should note as part of this lawsuit the lieutenant notes he was never cited for any traffic violation. it was not criminally charged.
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congressman bobbie scott who represents the greater norfolk, virginia, area has called for federal authorities to investigate and the attorney general of virginia said it's imperative the police department be transparent. nbc news has reached out to the officers as well as the police department. we have not heard back as of this afternoon. yasmin? >> yeah. i mean, i got to say it's disturbing to watch that and hearing the exchange between the officer and the lieutenant, the officer saying get out of the car. the lieutenant saying i'm honestly scared to get out of this car and the officer responding, you should be, seems as if the lieutenant is trying to deescalate the situation. the officer it seems is not. thank you, vonn. coming up in our next hour we will dig into this, law enforcement and legal analysts will react to this video and they're going to discuss the implications of it. it is a conversation that you do not want to miss. a lot of stuff to dig into there. people in the city of
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minneapolis, they are on pins and needles right now. that is the headline from the "financial times" as the trial of former police officer derek chauvin heads into week three tomorrow morning. the world is watching the trial and carolyn rough founder of black lives matter women of faith said, quote, if we don't get justice america is going to be shut down. nbc's meghan fitzgerald in minneapolis with what to expect as the defense begins their case later this week. meghan? >> yasmin our legal experts have been saying all throughout this trial it's likely going to come down to the battle of the experts and probably going to see what that means heading into next week, when the defense starts calling its witnesses. we know they're going to be calling a medical examiner from the state of maryland with a lot of experience, likely to be used to poke holes in the autopsy report because again, the defense trying to prove that george floyd died from an overdose, from the drugs in his system and preexisting conditions not the knee on
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george floyd's neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. the last two weeks has been difficult for george floyd's family to watch but they are preparing themselves mently for the next phase when the defense calls its witnesses. take a listen to how they describe how the trial has been so far. >> it hurts. you're seeing the professionals giving you every second of his last breath and moments, it was worse than watching the videos last week. >> it's too much for us to have to go through just to get justice because if the roles were reversed we wouldn't be having this problem. >> at this point it's just like how many more do we need to hear from to know we need justice. >> reporter: the prosecution is expected to rest its case this week. this trial could go on until the end of april. yasmin? >> all right. nbc's meghan fitzgerald in minneapolis. i want to turn to the white house, where president biden is
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set to meet with bipartisan members of congress tomorrow to discuss his more than $2 trillion infrastructure plan. the talks are coming as congress heads back to work for the first time since biden unveiled the sweeping proposal that is already facing opposition from republicans and moderate democrats. monica alba is on this for us at the white house. talk us through what we can expect from the bipartisan group, who will be there as members of congress and do they think compromise is possible here is? is it something they're aiming for? >> they're aiming for it but it has been elusive and but it could be when they come face to face and hammer out the details. this is an area ripe for bipartisanship and something president biden wants to see happen. the white house hasn't finalized the list. we know of a couple senators who will be there because they serve on relevant committees that
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would be involved in this legislation as it goes down the process and path, but we don't know if west virginia senator joe manchin will be in attendance or how many republicans, we just know that they will be from both parties and both houses and chambers. we're going to see that tomorrow here at the white house and this is really what officials are laying out as a starting point. this is where negotiations kick off and now we're getting a little bit of information also about the unofficial first deadline with transportation secretary pete buttigieg says that the president expects, quote, major action by memorial day. we're talking about the end of next month, so these talks are likely to really start tomorrow but then there will be a series of meetings and we'll learn more about how this is going to change and it's something, in fact, that the energy secretary jennifer granholm said on one of the sunday shows this morning that's about the only thing at this point that's a guarantee. take a listen. >> the president is willing to negotiate what this looks like.
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he knows that his current plan is going to be changed. that's the nature of compromise. so whether it is in one big package or several packages, he wants to talk to republicans. >> one area where they are also likely to is have a debate about compromise is the corporate tax rate and the hikes. the president wanted to raise them from 21% to 28%, but we know as some republicans have stated opposition it's likely they could accept a 25% compromise. that's one area where perhaps we know the conversation is going, but again in terms of the packages and the order that also has to be hashed out. we expect to hear more from the president on what phase two of this infrastructure and jobs plan could be when he does give that joint address and session to congress which really was supposed to take place last month but due to covid restrictions they're still figuring out how they can do that safely. >> i actually found it interesting as i was listening to the morning shows today, the
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bipartisan process and they are aiming for a bipartisan negotiation when it comes to an infrastructure plan, but they also think reconciliation can actually be bipartisan. always making that note when they're talking about it. i want to switch gears while i have you talking about the former president trump and his speech and rnc donor retreat where he wasn't attacking democrats but attacking members of his own party. mitch mcconnell specifically. >> this is something that left some donors scratching their heads because while the president, the former president, was trying to tout what he called party unity he was trying to predict the republican nominee in 2024 would be able to win back majorities in the 2022 mid terms but lambasting the current leadership of the republican party and he was even going after his former vice
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president mike pence saying he was, quote, so disappointed in him for not trying to overturn the election results, something, of course, he didn't have the authority to do. but the former president continued to cite baseless claims pretending that he won an election we know he lost fair and square, and then also he was talking as you point out about mitch mcconnell using terms calling him a dumb son of a expletive and loser and also just really saying in this very ironic sense that the party really doesn't need him as much as he needs it. what's ironic about this is that this speech took place at mar-a-lago in the context of an rnc donor retreat weekend which actually was scheduled and most of the events that happened were at a different hotel down in south florida, but the former president wanted the donors to come to his property so then the rnc had to pay him in order to make that happen. an interesting dynamic here that donald trump and we should point out he didn't give hints about
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whether he is going to run in 2024 or not but as he tries to navigate and the gop its die density crisis he -- identity crisis he continues lobbing bombs. >> interesting way to put it and interesting dynamic. that's putting it mildly. monica alba for us. good to talk to you. coming up at 4:00 p.m., the infrastructure plan from someone on the inside, heather boushey, member of the white house council will join me live to talk about the infrastructure plan and some of the things you may be missing as we do roll through that. so a new story up on nbcnews.com offers new hope to some of those hit hard economically in the covid crisis with a piece of legislation called representers choice that allows property owners to offer low-cost alternatives to lump sum security deposits. amanda golden on capitol hill with the details. this is huge. a lot of folks obviously in a
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really tough spot considering what we've been be through over the last year and it's not just this renters choice legislation. i understand there's been a huge surge in private companies offering security deposit solutions as the number of those struggling to pay their rent is increasing by the day. >> that's exactly right. as we have seen the local targeted legislation start to pop up in numerous cities as you mentioned, there's also the private sector trying to meet the moment. there's numerous companies that are now trying to provide the low-cost alternatives for representers instead of putting the lump sum security deposit that usually sits in an escrow account, they're trying to make that another option and one company that i spoke with called rhino is trying to provide a security deposit insurance. renters have a low cost they will pay monthly proportional to the rent and covers the property owners and landlords from the liabilities they need to be protected for. it does keep renters liable for
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this and they could be subject to landlords coming for different claims over late rent or over any kind of damage, but this kind of model is seeking to untap about $45 billion in that security deposit funds currently sitting and unable to be touched. when i spoke to renters about this who have been utilizing these programs, they told me it saved them thousands of dollars. one graduate student in new york city when his roommates were losing work and leaving the city he looked like he had to assume the lease for a multiperson apartment and would have to put down the first month's rent and security deposit well over $6,000 for him, something he could not front and his family could not help him with even though he was currently a student. having this option to be able to pay a monthly low cost rental insurance fee essentially instead of having to put down the deposit allowed him to save those thousands of dollars up front. another woman from mississippi who is mother two young toddlers had to move apartments during
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the covid pandemic and worried about putting down the up front cost offered through her apartment and service so she could pay the eninsurance cost instead. this comes as we've seen there are nearly 10 million people who are subject to being pushed out of their rent with up to 5 million at risk of eviction or foreclosure. the biden administration has put forward this extension of the housing moratorium evictions going through june but that's just a temporary fix here. there's a larger problem with all of these costs so we're seeing this localized legislation start to pop up in other cities. as you noted some major ones. it's circulating among different kinds of city council. one passed this week in baltimore that heads to the mayor's desk to be signed into law. we'll see more of this creep up as you noted with the a growing demand around this issue. >> is it your birthday today? >> it is. thanks. >> happy birthday! i saw it on twitter and so i have to say happy birthday to you. >> thank you. >> thanks for coming and working
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on your birthday. it's tough sometimes. >> of course. >> still ahead, covid from coast to coast, why some states are surging and others loosening restrictions and what it means for americans as we look toward the summer months. restricting right to vote the slew of legislation from dozens of states that could drastically impact who gets to cast their ballot, where it's happening, and what you need to know that's coming up. we'll be right back. know that's coming up. we'll be right back. you need only the freshest milk and cream. that one! and the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. philadelphia. schmear perfection. [♪♪] when you have diabetes, managing your blood sugar is crucial. try boost glucose control. the patented blend is clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels. boost glucose control products contain high quality protein and key nutrients to support immune health. try boost.
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welcome back, everybody. severe weather in the southerns u.s. claimed at least two lives in the state of louisiana in addition to leaving 90,000 people without power across several states this week. a tornado destroyed portions of louisiana where one person died. the national weather service warned more severe weather could come today in florida and portions of the mid-atlantic as well. we'll be following that. it is a tale of two states after holiday surges crippled its response plan california's coronavirus plan appearsen to easing and new jersey is once again in the thick of the battle. it is one of five states accounting for roughly 44% of the new cases over the past week. joining me cori coffin in new jersey and scott cohen in california. cori on the east coast first, frightening numbers emerging out
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of new jersey. you would expect with some of the restrictions in place, for so long in new jersey with what's happening with vaccines, we wouldn't be seeing these, but now an uptick in covid cases in that state. what's going on? >> there's so many factors at play and that health leaders are trying to follow. 4,000 cases a day in new jersey up to 7,000 in new york and michigan, two states also part of that list including pennsylvania and florida. all five states make up 22% of the population. so to have 44% of the cases many leaders are asking what is happening. one thing epidemiologists believe is that it's the fast moving uk variant is spreading quicker in the denser communities than they can get the vaccination out and then also the travel issue when it comes to the ways we've been seeing historically after holidays, after spring break, and so i spoke with a chief of nursing here at this hospital.
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they are at the highest rate they have seen since the summer, eight months they're starting to see the numbers uptick more. listen to how she explained the situation. >> what we're seeing here now is similar to what we've seen over the past holidays. we've seen an uptick after halloween, thanksgiving, christmas, and now easter. when we went through the pandemic everyone was working on the adrenaline, let's get through it, second wave, we can manage, and now upticks after each holiday it's taxing and exhausting and a lot to ask for the staff to come in extra shifts and take care of patients, two home and be with families and come back and do the same thing. >> reporter: i could just hear her energy shift when i asked her that question. it really is so visceral, listening to them talk about their own personal experiences with this. of course many states now trying to really drastically ramp up
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their vaccination effort opening up their vaccination eligibility to all adults that will happen in new jersey april 19th. the challenge in this nation remains vaccine supply. >> this is exactly why doctors and scientists we repeatedly speak to are worried about travel during the holidays and the variants that are spreading across this country. so with that, let's go to the west coast where we find scott cohen in california for us and in california, scott, seems as if the situation is improving there, which is great news. they're lift something restrictions. they've been on quite a bit of lockdown on the west coast for some time now. vaccine eligibility is also expanding in the state of california. i guess my big question is, is this the light at the end of the tunnel for the state of california for now, of course? >> yeah. i mean for now is the key, yasmin. that tunnel, of course, was very dark, very deep and really not all that long ago and it is
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remarkable how quickly things have turned around and we are starting to see hopeful signs like the santa cruz beach boardwalk behind me, last year they lost their summer season for the first time in their history. they're back open again as of april 1st with a number of other amusement parks in california. there are lots of restrictions there, limits on capacity, only california residents, all of those restrictions on the economy are going to go away under the plan that governor newsom announced last week on june 15th. everything is supposed to open up, but that plan contains a lot of caveats. >> we're always going to be led by data, led by reality and the experience, lived experience on the ground, but our expectation is, if we're vigilant and don't spike the ball, if we don't announce mission accomplished and continue to do the good work we've done by june 15th we'll be
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beyond the blueprint and to a sense of normalcy. >> let's look at the data that the governor and everyone else is looking at. we are still logging new cases and new deaths in california but this is about a tenth of the rate that it was at the peak in january. about 4.8 cases per 100,000 people and a test positivity rate of 1.7% and lower places like here in santa cruz. the vaccinations are the key. on thursday they open up to all people over 16 in california. some folks, those age groups getting appointments. as of now about half of californians have had at least one shot. 26% fully vaccinated. and that includes nearly two-thirds of california seniors. so yes, a lot of positive signs here, yasmin, but we know how quickly things can turn. >> let's bring the number up. that's huge. almost half of all folks in
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california over the age of 16 have received at least one shot that's pretty astounding to hear considering the population in the state of california. cori, scott, thank you both. really appreciate it. once to the head to the uk prince andrew has joined members of the royal family in honoring prince philip. the duke of york retreated from public life after his relationship with convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein was first exposed. he emerged to celebrate the late duke of edinburg he called the grandfather of the nation. listen to this. >> we're all feeling a great sense of loss but at the same time, the tributes have been absolutely amazing. it's a great loss. i think the way i would put it we've lost almost the grandfather of the nation. and i feel very sorry and supportive of my mother who is
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feeling it probably more than everybody else. >> and the role of prince andrew is one of the situations the palace will be dealing with ahead of the funeral. coming up i'm going to talk to daisy mcandrew about that and much more on what we can expect over the next couple days. coming up, new information on efforts by america's corporations to fight an assault on voting rights. also inside the january 6th insurrection. what we learned from an nbc joint investigation that pieced together thousands of pieces of audio and video of the january 6th attack on the capitol. 6th attack on the capitol. >> hello. ahead, trans rights under attack. we speak with those with the most to lose and those fighting to protect them. that and more tonight on "american voices" 6:00 p.m. eastern only on msnbc. eastern only on msnbc. on.
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here watching a child get into a stranger's van denounced corporations opposing georgia's new voting laws saying they should, quote, stay out of politics. coincidentally stay out of plibs politics is georgia's new role for black people. >> that is "saturday night live's" take on voting rights as republicans in state legislatures across this country are escalating efforts to restrict them. dozens of ceos from america he's biggest companies planning on signing a joint statement calling for greater voting access and opposing what they view as, quote, discrim attorney general -- discrim torre legislation. it's coming amid a report from the brennan center for justice showing more than 360 restrictive bills have been introduced in 47 states since last month. more than 100 put forward in the
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last five weeks. that's an increase of 43% compared to last year. in texas, democrats, corporations and voting rights advocates are slamming the state's latest piece of legislation that republicans there have advanced. a bill could impose criminal penalties for errors during the election process. if passed it could make it a felony for officials to give voters an absentee ballot application if they do not, in fact, request one. the bill is one of dozens considered by texas lawmakers this session. joining me to talk about this nate, research director for the presidential commission on legislation. appreciate it. the numbers to me are astounding so i want to bring those numbers up once again and have you comment on it when you take a look at 47 states in the last couple months introducing some voter registration legislation five have been signed into law. how worrisome is this for you?
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>> well, these are sort of loaded guns waiting to go off. we don't know how big a deal they will be in an election itself. they're based on what's known as the big lie, ther e trying to accede to the request of those who among other things stormed the capitol and questioned the legitimacy of the last election saying it was marred by fraud. they are affecting all aspects from absentee balloting to voter registration and drive-through voting and other things that were made as accommodations to the pandemic. it really is a kind of multifaceted assault on voting rights. >> that's what's most astounding what you said based on a lie, based on this idea that the election was stolen and the lie that the former president pushed and continues to push as he did last night in his speech in front of the republican party and all of these restrictiontive bills are based on that. the most restrictive bills are
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in texas, georgia and arizona. georgia enacted actually a voter suppression bill last week. arizona and texas they still have actively moving bills in their state houses currently. could these pass? >> i think something will pass. generally speaking what we're seeing is that the states are falling into three bucketses. there are those that made accommodations for the pandemic that will be made permanent. here in california, for example, may make mail balloting easier in the future. then there are those states that made accommodations for the pandemic that were just temporary and they're going to go back to the way voting was before the pandemic. then there are those states, the ones you were mentioning, that made accommodations for the pandemic and using the post-pandemic opportunity to roll back voting rights to even sort of a situation worse than they were before the pandemic. so yes, i think we'll see -- we're seeing in states that have unified republican control that they are targeting voting in all
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of the many aspects. >> the thing is, this could backfire and folks i've been speaking to, this could actually inspire folks, inspire especially democratic voters and black and brown voters, to turn out and we won't really know the effect of these voter restrictive laws until the next election, but none the less this could backfire on many republicans that are pushing these restrictive laws. >> i think that's right. that's why when you ask me what the effect will be, this is sort of a loaded gun waiting to go off. we don't really know how big an impact many of these laws will have because as you said often when you see these voting restrictions it serves as a rallying cry for added turnout in the subsequent election. i will say this which is in presidential elections when great enthusiasm and everybody is willing to turn out these types of laws don't have as huge
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an effect one might thing. in the midterm elections off year elections, those voters sort of occasional voters, think is it worth the burden to go out and vote. >> let me ask you quickly because you're quoted in "the new york times" piece talking about the next two years is a the chance for democrats to get election reform pushed through. if they can't get something done and don't do away with the filibuster and not able to pass election reform in the next two years are many voters, black and brown voters, going to be at a loss in 2022? >> this is based on the likelihood that the democrats may lose the house and/or the senate in two years as is often the case when it comes to midterm losses from incumbent presidents. whether it's because of gerrymandering or the natural cycles of politics these two years will be critical if they want to push through significant
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voting reform. >> thank you. great to see you this afternoon and appreciate you joining us. police nationwide are bracing for possible conflict at events this afternoon according to the anti-defamation league center. the rallies organized on telegram with the promotional language leaning on racist white supremacist rhetoric. the rallies compound fears about the rise of white supremacy on american soil which re-emerged following the deadly capitol hill riots in january. a joint investigation by nbc news, bellingcat and volunteers is coming the attack and impact with more on this, nbc's richard engel. >> so much has been written about the capitol attack and tv pieces that have been done, but for many it is confusing. when you try to understand what happened in a snapshot you can be left overwhelmed. so what we did is we took a lot
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of videos, thousands of videos, bits of audio and intercepted audio and police recordings and cctv footage and lined it up chronologically and then didn't just lay it down chronologically as an experiment but went through it and tried to match like to like and different angles of the same event and tried to come up with what is effectively a mosaic like picture of what happened that day. and when you do that and put all the similar pieces out and you lay them out and let it run for an hour and that's what's airing this evening, you start to see patterns and you start to identify key individuals and turning point moments. then, of course, watching it all and you can't get any closer than the police officers who were in the capitol trying to defend the building that day and one of those police officers was officer dunn. >> what about the fact that you
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are a black officer? there were guys in there who were wearing t-shirts, being a black officer there a different experience for you? was that a big factor for you? >> it was a time one instance it was off of -- off of the rotunda area and i was still holding the hallway and these people are standing there yelling so i started talking to them and talking about why they're there and joe biden didn't win the election and stole it and i started talking about me voting -- i voted for joe biden, does my vote not count. one person said, you hear that? this n word voted for joe biden and started booing and the people that were with them joined in with them and said yeah this "n" word "f" you, this
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"n" word voted for joe biden, "f" you. boo. >> what do you think it means about the state of america, where we are today, what do you -- you've had time to process it. >> we have a long way to go. >> hundreds of rioters, more than 400, have been charged with crimes linked to the capitol assault and some face 20 years in prison. yasmin? >> all right. thank you so nbc's richard engel for that. watch "on assignment" with richard engel "our house" at 10:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. still ahead, with friends like these. >> this past week has been full of encouragement from president trump, marjorie taylor greene and jim jordan to the maga nation that shares so much love. >> so despite his claims embattled congressman's small
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welcome back. representative matt gaetz spent his time on the hill being a loyal cheerleader to donald trump but now that florida republican is under investigation for allegedly violating sex trafficking laws, the loyalty doesn't seem to be a two-way street. or as politico describes it he is persona nongrada in trump world. joined by one of the writers, white house editor sam stein. thanks for joining us on this. so what i drew from your piece on politico it wasn't a surprise trump hasn't supported gaetz and you twice write, to a variety of factors among them the fact that gaetz has been regarded as a grenade whose pin had been
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pulled. why? >> well, it was sort of a well-known secret around town that matt gaetz pushed the envelope, so to speak. he was viewed as a loose cannon who overstated his proximity to trump, who likely was a source of a lot of leaks in trump world. he had a reputation for partying. obviously as we've seen in these reports he had a reputation also for pushing the envelope with his personal relationships as well and this was all known in trump world. it might seem odd to folks because the ex-president's team and the ex-president himself have been engulfed in scandals similar to this but there's a huge red line that comes with the possibility that you're trafficking underage women, girls, and so, you know, they're not going to touch -- one person told me they will not touch this with a ten-foot pole and the
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totality of the defense from trump world is a statement from trump that said he's innocent until proven guilty. that's hardly a defense when it comes to president trump. >> do you expect gaetz's reputation will have an impact on the ethics committee, that investigation? >> maybe. i suspect the ethics committee investigation has a lot of work and reputational considerations will be a small part of it, but i think they have to do a lot of digging for financial transactions, relationships, you know, what he was telling his staff and what his staff was doing about him in our piece we noted that two people had told us that staff would often take videos of the congressman in somewhat compromising situations often inebriated and pass them around as a lark. that's the type of stuff that investigation, the ethics committee will look into to see what type of inappropriate behavior was happening that may not have crossed the line into
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illegality but would be sort of morally compromising. there's going to be a lot of stuff they have to look into. reputational concerns will be a small part of it. >> i can't help but wonder why is this coming out now? why didn't this begin to leak earlier? >> it's a great question. it's a fantastic question. i have no reporting on that. obviously all this started happening when we found out that there was a potentially reported ongoing doj investigation into the trafficking of an underage girl, that it didn't leak before the election is standard department of justice policy to not talk or discuss or leak investigations before an election so maybe they were adhering to policy and something more nefarious about it. it is remarkable it's all happening right now and, you know, i suppose there are legitimate questions to ask about the timing of it. >> i just want to play for you
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nancy pelosi on "face the nation" earlier today when asked if gaetz should resign. >> we in the congress in the house have rule 23 which says that in the conduct of our duties we are not to bring dishonor to the house of representatives. i think there's been a clear violation of that, but it's up to the ethics committee to investigate that and it's up to the republican leader, mr. mccarthy, to act upon that behavior. >> where does mccarthy at this point stand on things? >> well, he's one of the people who said nothing basically. the only people who have really come on the house side on the republican side are jim jordan and marjorie taylor greene who have come out in defense. mccarthy has been noncommittal on this. it's an interesting thing that pelosi said, this was up to mccarthy how this happens. in fact, it's not. they could theoretically vote on expulsion at some point in time
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full house vote on this. that would be up to pelosi, of course. she's keen on making this kevin mccarthy's problems for obvious reasons. she wants the republican party to own it and decide it. if kevin mccarthy were to pull the pluck, so-to-speak, there would be a backlash, there still is behind matt gaetz and doesn't want to see him go. >> good to see you, sam. still ahead, everybody. a heart wrenching glimpse into the real life consequences. new information on what let up to this 10-year-old boy wandering lost and alone along the border. alone along the border intr oducing ore-ida potato pay. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this... ...with this. when kids won't eat dinner, potato pay them to. ore-ida. win at mealtime.
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welcome back, everybody, we are learning more today about a young boy who was found terrified and alone by border patrol agents near the texas-mexico border. his family says he was kidnapped and ran some day. blayne alexander has more. >> reporter: by now, the world has seen this young, frightened face, lost, pleading for help. this 15-year-old boy approaches a border patrol agent near the texas-mexico border. i was with a group of people and they left me, he says. now, we are learning more about his terrifying journey. >> the face of the minors. joury >> the face of the minors. . >> reporter: in an interview,
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his uncle, who lives in florida, said young wilson and his mother were making the trek from nicaragua to the u.s.-mexico border. he tells telemundo the two made it into the u.s. and were deported and kidnapped back in mexico. i got a ransom message adding the family could only get together $5,000, enough to free the boy. his mother, still held captive. their frightening saga gives a small glimpse into the glowing crisis facing the biden administration, which changed policy to allow unaccompanied minors to stay in the u.s. all of it leading to an influx of mike grants at the border. the young boy is now in u.s. custody, officials say, as his family both here and abroad continue to hope for good news, blayne alexander, nbc news. >> that could be any one of our
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welcome back, everybody. the issue of race and policing front and center, once again, on this sunday afternoon in this country. it is front and center because of this disturbing new video released showing a family member of the military detained, confronted and pepper sprayed during a virginia traffic stop. >> get out of the car! get out of the car now! what's going on? get out of the car. >> you received an order, obey it. >> i'm honestly scared. >> dude, you should b. back up. >> whoa. hold on. >> get out of the car and get

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