now forever a part of it. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thank you for watching. good morning. i'm dara brown in new york at msnbc headquarters. 6:00 in the east. 3:00 out west. here is what is happening. growing divide. the president and his party increasingly at odds as a whirlwind week on the hill brings new evidence for democrats and a full slate of officials set to testify. plus, from a bombshell admission, to a backtrack, the damage to the trump administration's defense after mick mulvaney broke with the president's story and how he may have put himself in the cross-hairs of the impeachment inquiry. >> strategic nightmare. a strong rebuke from the number one republican in the senate, to the president's serious strategy. case closed.

the investigation into hillary clinton's emails finally wrapping it up and why is the president still using it as a talking point? >> breaking news. out of london. where there is a brexit showdown in parliament this morning. a rare weekend signature of parliament is under way. the prime minister boris johnson imploring members to improve his divorce deal with the european union. nbc news correspondent steve patterson is among the nbc reporters in the region including abington green which is expecting hundreds of thousands of protesters today. steve, we know prime minister boris johnson has less than two weeks to do what theresa may was unable to do three times in her tenure there, so what are the members of pafrrliament voting today? >> they are voting on johnson's plan. and this is something that has been built for a long time, it is finally a decisive day after three years of this bitter divorce battle. finally, a day in which members will sit down, and decide on a plan that maybe a brexit from the european union. and the numbers coming in today,

have been billed as razor tight. boris johnson needs 320 mp's to get his proposal across. some of the pundits have been predicting anywhere between 20, 15, maybe ten or five votes, depending which way the numbers go. there has already been some heated contention within the halls of parliament. meeting for the first time, on a weekend session, in nearly 40 years, i want to take you there right now, and show you some of the just brorack and forth that been going on between johnson and members of parliament. check this out. >> but i hate, mr. speaker, that this is the moment where we can finally achieve that resolution, and reconcile the instincts that compete within us. >> this government has sought to avoid scrutiny throughout the process, and yesterday evening made empty promises on workers' rights and the environment. this government cannot be trusted, and these benches will not be duped. >> mr. speaker, england is

getting what it voted for. wales is getting what it voted for. and northern ireland is getting a special deal. yet scotland, the democratically voted to the name is, being ignored, and treated as a second class nation by this government. >> you mentioned theresa may. some of the same things that were in may's proposal shut down by parliament three times, are in boris's plan which is essentially to have the rights protected of british citizens living in eu countries, the billions of dollars that the u.k. would have to pay out and essentially what is this divorce agreement, and the stipulations for northern ireland, which has been sort of the central contention between all of this, which essentially keeps it in the umbrella of the eu customs union, and removes the u.k. at large which johnson argues would give them a little more negotiating power as they have to now renegotiate with all of

these countries if his plan succeeds but again that is all on a razor thin margin as hundreds of thousands of protesters are expected to descend on central london. big day here, dar ax. back to you. >> a busy and exciting day. steve paterson, thank you so much. now to the fast-moving impeachment inquiry, now on day 26, following a week of stunning revelations. here's the big picture of evidence collected so far, summarized by the "washington post." quote, over two weeks of closed door testimony, a clear portrait has emerged of a president personally orchestrating the effort to pressure a foreign government to dig up dirt on a potential 2020 political rival, and marshaling the full resources of the federal bureaucracy to help in that endeavor. current and former foreign policy officials testified to congress this week. the diplomats were sidelined as the president inserted his personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, in the process of conducting a shadow foreign policy on ukraine. and in new reporting last night, two sources tell nbc news, that

diplomats told congress that giuliani tried to secure the ousted ukraine prosecutor promising dirt on democrats. and last night, energy secretary rick perry is the latest trump administration official to refuse to comply with subpoenas about documents about ukraine. white house chief of staff mick mulvaney is expected to defy his subpoena after he compounded the enormity of this week by confirming that there was a quid pro quo with ukraine. >> he also mentioned to me in the past that the corruption that related to the dnc server, absolutely. no question about that. that's it. that's why we held up the money. we do that all the time with foreign policy. and i have news for everybody, get over it. there's going to be political influence in foreign policy. >> mulvaney then walked back those comments but new today, a republican congressman says mulvaney's comments were enough for him not to rule out supporting impeachment. >> is that acceptable for a sitting president?

>> i'm not happy with it. >> i don't know if it is a direct violation, but i don't understand why at this moment, they had to do that? >> you don't hold up foreign aid that we have previously appropriated for a political initiative. period. >> what we have done to the kurds will stand as a bloodstain in the annals of american history. >> when america leaves, we create a vacuum and when we create a vacuum, we create chaos and that's what we're seeing right now. >> joining me right now white house correspondent kelly o'donnell. good morning to you. despite bipartisan criticism, the president is singing a different tune. >> reporter: very much so. he is rejecting the critics who say this was a poor judgment, a grave mistake, all of the kinds of things we've heard from, and some republicans, and many democrats, and the president has instead insisted that this was a nonconventional approach to his foreign policy decision making, that he says is actually going

to result in a better outcome, because u.s. troops will be coming home. the president also noted on twitter, how many lives would be saved by the cease fire. he did not go into, of course, some of the reports coming from kurdish forces that there has been ongoing military action. he did acknowledge there were some skirmishes early in the cease fire. but the president tweeted last night, that tweet we just saw there, and he has emphasized that his unconventional approach has been able to get turkey to back down for a period of days, to allow kurds to move out of the area, of course, that doesn't really speak to the issue of kurds as long-time u.s. allies, beng forced from their own land. but here's how the president characterized where he thinks things stand right now, after so much criticism. >> there's a cease fire, or a pause, or whatever you want to call it, there was some sniper fire this this morning, there was mortar fire this morning, that was eliminated quickly.

and they're back to the full pause. we've taken control of the oil in the middle east. the oil that we're talking about. the oil that everybody was worried about. we have isis totally under guard. sometimes you have to get through some pain before you can get a good solution but the kurds is very happy about it, president erdogan and turkey is satisfied with it, and we are in a very strong position. >> so the president maintains the u.s. is in a strong position despite the fact many allies disagree with this. ultimately being able to execute an operation that they wanted to execute for years so it would make sense they're happy what they're getting but however the kurds are not happy with the outcome. also curious in the president's commens there, his statement that the u.s. has obtained control of the oil that people were worried about. we asked about this. we don't know what he's referring to there. there had been some questions

about u.s. nuclear weapons that were stored in turkey, and the fate of those, were those under secure care, and that isn't what he was talking about there, it is really unclear what oil he is referring to, or what he's talking about there, there was no follow-up from the white house to explain the president's comments there. but he is setting very different narrative than his critics, and others who are observing these events unfold. that's for certain. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you for that update. joining me now, joey manchester, reporter for the hill, and dave lellen thal, for the integrity. and let's start with the impeachment inquiry. this week was jaw dropping with a cascade of stunning revelations. dave, given the evidence under cover this week, does it seem that the house democrats may already have enough for articles of impeachment? >> possibly, but they're going to keep going forward. they are not in a hurry, and that's what we have really learned about this week, they are going to take a very deliberate, methodical approach.

nancy pelosi herself, saying that nothing is imminent. although we're hearing too ultimately this could come to a head at the end of the year, if you're suspecting in the next week or the next few day, get over it, so to speak but at the same time, too, it is going to be a process that ultimately is going to come to some fruition, we think, at this point, based on everything that we're hearing, at least in 2019. >> julia, the real question seems to be not if, but when articles of impeachment will be introduced. and whether the evidence in the president's actions on other fronts may crack his support among the republicans. so what was the overall effect of this week on that front? >> you know, i think you're still seeing republicans standing strong, in their support of president trump. i mean obviously there are republicans such as lisa murkowski, maybe some more moderate republicans, that are starting to back away, or may not be as in support of president trump, but you know, i think so far, you know, i think republicans, especially in the

house, are very cognizant of the fact that many of them are facing re-election in 2020, and they know that their base of conservative constituents are still very much behind president trump. so they are very much walking a very narrow political tight rope, if you will, dealing with their own constituents, but also having to field all of these continuing questions, and about this ongoing impeachment inquiry, due to the drip, drip, drip, of information. however, if we talk about cracking among republicans, i would say the real issue here, is with syria, and president trump's decision to withdraw u.s. troops, from northern syria. i think that is where you're going to see more support cracking among more republicans. i don't know if that will ever impact the impeachment inquiry, but it was just remarkable, seeing some of the president's staunchest allies such as lindsey graham, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell writing an op-ed in the "washington post" yesterday, slamming the decision, so if we're going to

talk about a crack among republicans, i don't think you're going to see as much in terms of impeachment, but foreign policy, absolutely. >> and house minority leader kevin mccarthy the staunchest supporter of the president, he came to mulvaney's defense but mulvaney's clarification was not enough for republican congressman francis rooney who was not ruling out supporting impeachment. let's take a listen. >> whatever may have been gray and unclear before is certainly quite clear right now that the actions were related to getting some of, ukraine to do some of these things. we're not supposed to use government power and prestigious for political gain. >> is that an impeachable offense? >> that's something i really can't answer. i don't know. i want to study it some more. i want to hear the next set of testimony next week, from a couple more ambassadors, but it certainly is very, very serious and troubling. >> dave, is congressman rooney at downliner or to julia's point, signs of cracks in

support of the president in congress? >> he is an outlier and anyone saying similar things on the republican side is an outlier. let's not throw the cold wet blanket of reality on the situation right now but we will. you need two-thirds of the u.s. senate to actually remove the president from office. and the house, hey, it's almost a foregone conclusion that if the democrat does want to go forward, the democratic leadership wants to go forward, and im people th, im peoplach t president, they will be able to do that but with two-thirds of the u.s. senate, republican control of the u.s. senate, to remove the president from office, still at this point, knowing everything that we know right now, seems almost unthinkable. >> and there is more testimony scheduled for next week including acting ambassador to ukraine, bill taylor and likely asked why he texted the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and as i said on the phone, you think it is crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.

given david's admission this week of a quid quo pro, how crucial is ambassador taylor's testimony? >> it is definitely important. and we are going to be hanging on pretty much every word that is able to come out but at the same time, too, is it an ultimate game-changer that will force lots of republicans in the house to suddenly get on the impeachment bandwagon? probably not. and it also, too, is not going to do anything in the senate to ultimately change a lot of minds, something else is going to have to happen here. in order for the equation to change. again, even with all of the events of this past week. >> something else we will have to see what that will be. dave leventhal, great to have you. julia manchester, thanks for joining us this morning. >> thank you. we now have breaking news on conflict between turkey's military and kurdish forces on syria's northern border. and a growing humanitarian crisis resulting from the fighting. u.n. officials say in just the past seven days, refugee camps took in 166,000 people, and many spilling across the border into iraq.

and nbc's aarerin mclaughlin jo us from near the border near syria and turkey. erin, what are you seeing there today? >> reporter: well, will dara, let me just give you a sense of where i'm standing about. a mile behind me is the syrian/turkey border and beyond that is a kurdish city that is the flash point in the entire conflict. yesterday morning, we saw heavy clashes over the city unfolding. today, it's comparatively quiet. we have seen sporadic small arms fire, turkey is insisting that it is sticking to the terms of the agreement, between turkey and the united states, in terms of a cease fire. meanwhile, kurdish forces are insisting that turkey is violating that agreement, especially with respect to the creation of a safe corridor for humanitarian supplies to get into the city, and for the injured and civilians to get out. we have been unable to verify those claims. we also reached out to turkey, no comment, thus far. the mechanics of how this

agreement are going to work, where there are serious questions about that as well, with the sdf, reports from inside the city saying they're unable to withdraw their forces. one of the terms of the agreement between the u.s. and turkey, we spoke to one u.s. official, who acknowledged those concerns, pointing to the turkish-backed militants that are operating in this region, that turkey doesn't have full control over some of its elements, meanwhile president erdogan is saying at the end of this five-day period, if kurdish forces have not fully withdrawn from the area, well, turkey is going to continue its assault. dara? >> erin mclaugh lin, thank you very much for that report. and another breaking story that we're following this morning, is tropical storm nestor, the national weather service is reporting the storm is increasing the chance of severe weather in central florida as it makes landfall. a tornado reportedly touched ground in polk county overnight. heavy rain and flooding is expected throughout the day. as nestor races through northern

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overnight, energy secretary rick perry saying he won't comply with a subpoena from the house, failing to meet the friday deadline.

this comes after a hearing-packed week on capitol hill, filled with bombshell testimony from four former and current administration officials as part of house's impeachment inquiry into president trump. joining me now to break it all down, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos and former federal prosecutor dania perry. we learned a lot of details this week from all of the testimony. so let's recap what we learned, person by person, starting with fiona hill, the former top aide on russia told lawmakers that rudy giuliani and eu ambassador gordon sondland circumvented the process to run a shadow campaign in ukraine. and testified john bolton was so alarmed he told her it go to white house lawyers saying i'm not part of whatever drug deal sondland and mulvaney are cooking up and calling rudy giuliani a hand grenade. dania, what is your biggest take-away from this? >> i think what we've seen over the past week, a steady stream of witnesses, who are

nonpartisan, and clear diplomats, and policy experts, we have seen a consistent narrative being told. including, as you say, by fiona hill, and the story is clear, and as i said, it's consistent. it is the story that the traditional diplomats, and the foreign service officials, were sidelined and they were told, sit in your corner, and we're going to let the president's personal lawyer take over, and run foreign policy. and they all expressed alarm about this. they were disappointed. they were fearful. and they took steps. and so i think, as you said, dara, this has been a bombshell week, as a former federal prosecutor, and state corruption investigator, i would have been very pleased with the testimony as it came out this week, and the corroborating evidence in the form of text messages, and in fact, some of the admissions

that have been made by mulvaney, by trump, and by giuliani. >> and the senior state department official in charge of ukraine policy, george kent, recalled that he was instructed to quote, lay low, after he raised concerns about giuliani, and new reporting from nbc overnight shows that he also testified, giuliani attempted to secure a visa from the state department for outed ukraine prosecutor viktor shoekin. and he basically testified three employees were replaced to do the president's bidding in ukraine. danny, what do you make of this? especially with the new reporting about the visa request? >> the biggest problem for rudy giuliani is the question, what the heck is rudy giuliani? is he a lawyer? is he a private agent? is he acting for the president or for the united states? but if he is, he certainly isn't a paid member of the u.s. government. or the executive branch.

that is going to create a lot of problems for rudy giuliani. because it appears he's been wearing many different hats. and so asking for a visa for example couldn't possibly be providing legal services to the president, and no attorney-client privilege would attach, so the key is, and the recurring theme, you see, through last week's testimony, can be boiled down to one word, and we've already heard it a few times this morning, alarm. everyone was alarmed. and you remember that whistle-blower, several weeks ago, well that sort of dissipated into the wind, because the whistle-blower's allegations have largely been born out by the sworn testimony of actual, what we call precipent witnesses, people who saw or heard what happened. so it turns out a lot of what the whistle-blower was talking about has come to fruition. >> and it's moving very quick limit on wednesday, secretary of state mike pompeo's former senior adviser michael mckinley testified that one of the reasons he resigned, was because

he was so disturbed by the quote implication that foreign governments were being approached to procure negative information on political opponents. the other, the unwarranted firing of marie yovanovitch, danya, what new legal questions does this raise for you? >> i think it raises the questions that are exactly under investigation right now. i don't know that mr. mckinley's testimony in particular raises any new red flags. as i said, it's completely consistent with the testimony of the other witnesses this week. and last week. it's very clear this is a man who describes himself as having served loyally, under several administrations, and he testified against the edict of the white house, and testified truthfully, that this was of grave concern to him. and that he resigned as a result of it. so again, it's just another layer, it is another brick on

the many bricks that are the foundation of this investigation, and i think that the congressional investigators have to be pleased with the testimony this week. >> danny, next week, there's supposed to be even more depositions, starting with acting ambassador to the ukraine. if you were in that room, what would you be asking them? >> well, there's a lot of really good questions. for example, next week, you have duffy, one of the folks who actually signed the documents, with that, that dealt with the aid to ukraine, but i mean really, you're getting more of a picture, it's a puzzle, with all of the pieces coming together, and you're going to expect more corroborating evidence. but arguably, this case for impeachment, if that's what this is, could have been made several weeks ago, with just the documents that the trump administration essentially adopted, that tended to show that he was withholding aid in exchange for an investigation by

ukraine. so there's two avenues. here the house could have gone with an impeachment several weeks ago based on the four corner of that statement, but now, as you can see, they're fleshing out those facts now, and the coming week promises to give even more facts that likely corroborate what we've heard so far. >> hold on. it is going to be a busy week ahead. danny cevallos, danya perry, thank you very much for your time this saturday morning. >> thank you. well, coming up, why vladimir putin is probably smiling about all that has unfolded in washington and northern syria, the last few days. we still need glasses on table ten. ♪

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now to the morning headlines. breaking this morning, tropical storm nestor is moving quickly through florida's gulf coast, the storm is pounding parts of florida but heavy rain and wind is expected to be the same as it approaches the carolinas this weekend. the national weather service predicts that nestor will weaken as it hits lands but warns residents to be on alert as tornado watches are in effect for most of saturday. the biggest threat will be storm surge, as ocean water could rise up to five feet in some areas. authorities outside seattle say they have prevented a massacre after seizing a gun arsenal from a suspected leader

of a neo-nazi group. investigators say caleb james cole is a local leader of a group that advocates white supremacist violence. >> this is a hate-filled human being. but unfortunately, one who possesses really alarming numbers of weapons. >> the weapons were taken from cole, under a red flag law that allows authorities to take guns from people deemed to be a risk to themselves or others. cole hasn't been charged with any crime. and back now to breaking news. from the middle east. a fragile pause in fighting between turkish military and kurdish forces appears to be holding after a rocky start. but while it is quiet on the front line, kurds are deeply worried about what is up next. nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel has more. richard? >> reporter: small skirmishes hours after the white house brokered a five-day cease fire, between turkey and kurdish fighters in syria, which for now

is largely holding. but turkey's president erdogan warns if kurdish fighters don't pull back, turkey will resume its assault. while president trump is already taking a victory lap. >> we've had tremendous success, i think, over the last couple of days. a little bit unconventional. but the kurds are very happy about it. president erdogan and turkey are satisfied with it. and we are in a very strong position. >> but the kurds in northern syria and the u.s. troops who have been fighting with them, and protecting them, for nearly five years, are deeply worried that president trump has allowed turkey to unleash a campaign of ethnic cleansing against the kurds. because we're learning more details about what turkey plans to do with the so-called safe zone that president trump ceded to turkey in exchange for stopping the assault. erdogan said he plans to settle

one to two million syrian refugees in the new zone. the kurds worry, as soon as the flood gates are open, to the mostly arab refugees, there will be a scramble for land, and vendetta killing, ethnic cleansing, and civil war. >> already, human rights groups have accused turkeys and militias it controls of possible war crimes, including targeting kurdish civilians. dara? >> richard engel, thank you very much. well, in spite of reports from the front line, president trump insists that kurds are happy with the deal requiring them to give up their lands under fire from turkey. here's how he says they came around to accepting that proposal. >> without that gunfire going back and forth, without those rockets going in both directions, without other countries moving in, and potentially moving in, and creating virtually a world war, without all of that happening, you would have never been able to make this deal. everybody agreed to things that three days ago they would have never agreed to.

that includes the kurds. >> joining me now is the world news editor with the daily beast and msnbc contributor, and christopher, you wrote about this deal. the president seems to be saying here that the kurds were spooked by the prospect of war. does that sound plausible to you? >> not these kurds. these are the same kurds who fought for the city of kabani for five months in 2014, and 2015, and stopped the onslaught of the so-called islamic state. before that, the isis, isis had the mistake of invincibility, because nobody would stand against them. these are the kurds who stood against them. and ultimately, they will wind up standing against turkey, as best they can. >> and christopher, here's what republican senator mitt romney said about this deal. let's take a listen. >> the decision to abandon the kurds violates one of our most sacred duties. it strikes at american honor. what we have done to the kurds

will stand as a bloodstain in the annals of american history. was there no chance for diplomacy? are we so weak and so inept diplomatically that turkey forced the hand of the united states of america? turkey? >> and christopher, add to that, this video on twitter showing a russian speaking man, on an empty u.s. base, saying let's see how the americans lived, and the u.s. bombing its own military base. how does the rest of the world see these latest developments? >> i think that they see president trump's performance as contemptible, if not insane. look, this goes back to the u.n. general assembly when he couldn't find time to meet president erdogan of turkey. he just couldn't put him on the agenda. erdogan is a very proud man. and he was deeply insulted, finally, finally, they arranged this infamous phone call, and trump on a whim, because of his

gut, apparently, just decided to pull american troops out of the way, so that erdogan could invade northern syria. this is not foreign policy. this is whim. this is caprice. this is sure stupidity. and, shear stupidity, and now trump is trying to make it look like an unconventional victory of some kind. but he sold out kurdish ally, sold them out to turkey, which is more lose to russia and in the process of selling out ukraine, make no mistake about that because his only interest in ukraine is to try and dig up dirt on the democrats, either in 2016, or for 2020. >> christopher dicky, thank you for joining us this saturday morning. always great to have your insight. appreciate it. while we might be hearing a lot more talk about president trump about something that really consumes him, hillary clinton's emails. ry clinton's emails

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despite what he said on camera, quote, there was absolutely no quid pro quo, between ukrainian military aid and any investigation into the 2016 election. but one trump ally telling nbc news, it's an un democrats are seizing on it. >> things have just gone from very, very bad to much, much worse. >> mick mulvaney was either lying then or lying now and i think he is lying now. >> republicans on defense. i think what mick clarified in his statement was very clear. i watched in all of those transcripts of what people have been saying inside the session, investigate, volker and others, there was no quid pro quo. >> meanwhile, president trump is pouncing on a report, a state department official, george kent, testified that he raised ethical concerns back in 2015, about hunter biden, working for a ukrainian energy company, while his father was vice president. dara? >> kirsten welker, thank you. two big headlines capping the state department's probe into hillary clinton's use of a

private email server, while secretary of state. in a final report, submitted to congress, the state department says it found no deliberate mishandling of classified information. but it antoine, good to have you here. how will these findings play out with president trump who has been going after clinton on this issue for years? >> well, i'm so thankful that justice has finally prevailed as it relates to secretary clinton. they tried to write her down in history with their bitter-tasted lies, but like dust, hillary clinton has rised. i'm so thankful we are there. for democrats and everyone else paying attention today, there's no education in the second kick of the mule.

the same thing trump and others tried to do then they're trying to do it now as it relates to vice president biden and the ukraine situation. so we cannot repeat the sins of 2016 as if relates to this election. and furthermore, the people who tried to paint hillary clinton as a bad person are getting a taste of their own medicine, because now we're starting to see the cups of corruption overflow from this president and this administration. >> and antjuan, hillary clinton was asked how concerned she was by trying to split away a nominee. she said this. let's take a listen. they're also going to do third-party again. and i'm not making any predictions, but i think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the democratic primary. and are grooming her to be the

third-party candidate. she's a favorite of the russians, they have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far. and that's assuming jill stein will give it up, which she might not because she's also a russian asset. >> clinton apparently referring to tulsi gabbard. multiple democrats speaking out in defense of gabbard, what is your take on this? which side is right here? >> i'm a big subscriber to that new york philosopher, jay-z, nobody wins when the family is fighting. we cannot win when the policy and agenda items, the congresswoman from ohio that she speaks to, we do not need

anything to happen as it happened in 2016 when it relates to democrats. we also know anyone who shares the positions of the russian leader, may not be on the same side from a long and short-term perspective of what we need not only in this country, but for sure in the democratic party. >> antwaan i want to stay on the subject of 2020. new numbers from democrat candidates revealing their cash on hand. joe biden is in fifth place with less than $9 million. that's less than one-third of what bernie sanders says. politico summing up the significance for bide within the headline, they've got no margin for error, biden cash crunch raises alarms, how serious is this for the biden campaign? >> i think the biden campaign realizes that the gaslight is on for the campaign. they're going to have to put some more fuel in the tank in order for this car to keep going down the road. eight, $9 million in your campaign warchest is maybe three or four days of tv in

california. when you think about the days ahead. the magnitude of the race ahead, they're going to have to step up and aggressively raise some money and think about doing it in a different way. i said it to some of his top lieutenants over the past couple of days. but i will say they made some serious investments early to make the case for why joe biden should be our nominee. and some things are investment, some things are an expense. i think they made some very smart investments and at the end of the day, joe biden just has to be able to compete everywhere so he can win anywhere. and i think that's what they're attempting to do. the gas is on for the campaign with this amount of money in the war chest. >> biden's campaign focus on southern states where black voters dominated. saying if biden's firewall ever cracks it will likely start with young black women. according to interviews with a

dozen african-american female organizers, lawmakers and activist who is are involved in the democratic primary election or closely tracking the mood of black voters. what's your assessment of his standing in this area? >> i don't think the biden campaign or any campaign can take any constituency for granted. particularly that dominant force we identify african-american women or african-american voters, period. as i said in that politico article, the numbers do not lie. when you look at south carolina, the place that will decide who our next nominee will be, his numbers are rock-solid here and when you look at states that follow south carolina, the numbers are even better for joe biden. and if that trend continues, i don't see how this article or any other notion that he is not strong will play up to be true. now, as i also said in the article, could that change? absolutely could change. >> well antjuan i know you'll be watching it for us, thank you for being here with us on this saturday morning. well mick mulvaney's comments this week earning him plenty of critics within his own

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enjoy the rest of your saturday morning, see you later. i'm kendice gibson, it's 7:00 on the east coast and 4:00 on the west coast. today marks day 26 of the

impeachment inquiry. but just within the last 24 hours there have been some head-spinning developments, let's bring you up to date. >> i want to start with this mick mulvaney confession in the white house, because it was a confession. >> acting white house chief of staff mick mulvaney openly saying there was a quid pro quo with ukraine. and an admission he's now trying to backtrack. >> the white house is blaming the media for taking mulvaney's words out of context even though we heard him say what he said. >> a prominent republican nonetheless, john kasich, the former republican governor of ohio today came out in favor of impeachment saying that mulvaney's remarks were the tipping point. >> the speaker has said we're going to proceed expeditiously, which i interpret as potentially, something is done prior to the end of the year. >> support for impeachment continues to tick upward.