happening on the ground in northern syria as turkish forces advance, u.s. troops are in harm's way prompting the trump administration to make a drastic new decision. >> i spoke with the president last night after discussions with the rest of the national security team. and he directed that we begin a deliberate withdrawal of forces from syria. also here at home, we're two days away from the next democratic debate in ohio. a record breaking 12 candidates will try to take the stage. and what we can expect from that and who stands to win or lose the most? will the latest development help or hurt joe biden on stage? his son making the big decision to leave a chinese-backed firm. the presidential field tightens for 2020. we start with new developments on a player in the middle of the ukraine impeachment inquiry set to give

key testimony. the eu ambassador previously said he was crystal clear there was no quid pro quo. as of today, that has changed. he is now reportedly going to tell congress he can only say he was told there was no quid pro quo by the president, not that he can verify that claim himself. a person with knowledge of sondland's testimony ilsay he relied on the president's assurances in good faith and passed this along with he texted that there was no quid pro quo with ukraine. in addition, he now plans to say he did not know why ukraine aid was held up nor who ordered that. sondland is defying a state department ban not to testify. now under subpoena, sondland says he will show. that subpoena, by the way, is just one of 10 subpoenas issued as part of the impeachment inquiry so far. sondland is one of the administration officials

scheduled to testify in the coming days in this busy week ahead of us. lawmakers were out making their case. >> given that we already have the call record, we don't know the whistleblower who wasn't on the call to tell us what took place during the call. we have the best evidence of that. >> you think it is legitimate for the president to use his personal attorney to go to a foreign aert and seek help. >> equally as legitimate as the democrats saying we should investigate trump. >> the president says it was a perfect phone call. >> i think there was a lot of really important great things discussed. >> do you think it was a perfect phone call? >> i believe that that conversation, the only thing that is being criticized is the fact that we are tearing the country in half trying to bring down a sitting president. >> is it appropriate for president trump to be saying china should look into the biden family? is that appropriate? >> look, of course not. elections in the u.s. should be decided by americans.

and it's not the business of foreign countries, any foreign countries to be interfering in our elections. >> "new york times" justice reporter, former white house chief of staff for george w. bush. let's start with the release of information from sondland's team that he is going to say i heard from the president and therefore no quid pro quo. i cannot personally say i know for sure. it's what the president told me. what's the significance of that nuance? >> sondland is saying he does not know how much more evidence could possibly come out. i don't think he wants to box himself into a position where he has made a declarative statement under oath that something did not happen. he only knows a small piece of the entire pik. also, it gives leeway perhaps to other state department officials and state department employees who might know more to come forward.

>> the state department, what is happening right now? what typically does happen when you are trying to handle such situations that are so sensitive, so difficult within your own cabinet, the state department and the white house? >> first of all, everyone should tell the truth to congress. if they're asked to testify or subpoenaed to testify, they should tell the truth and should be very, very careful with the words. i am troubled by the investigation, because it is clearly only one sided. it's the democrats doing it. i wish the house would have a vote to conduct an impeachment process and it would allow for the minority party to have their witnesses and their say. no matter what, anybody who testified before congress, and i tend to believe that if you are subpoenaed, you should go. you should be very careful to tell the truth. do not use extraneous words. and don't pretend to know something that you don't know. and i also would encourage us

all to recognize members of congress are allowed to lie. they can lie in a committee. it's you who would be a witness that can't lie. so it's likely that you will hear lies out of members of congress as they ask you questions. don't be trapped. >> i don't think here that people might be surprised by that at the moment i think based on polling we have seen over the recent months and years. some of the testimony here that's going to be very much important as we look forward to the week. feowna hill on monday. she will be essential. she was the adviser to that relationship. what will you be looking for in that? >> i think we are looking for in this testimony what was going on with the personal needs of the president versus the needs as a country. we have seen a little flavor of that, what was happening with prioritizing the needs of ukraine and the global security picture that the country has stood behind.

and to the extent that we weren't, why, and how much it had to do with the election. >> this election moving forward, these witnesses could potentially say things that would make the president who appears to be a little bit nervous, that he is on his heels a little bit. as you look at this coming week's testimonies, i was talking about fiona hill. you take your pick. we have the eu ambassador gordon sondland will be up there, george kent as well as -- >> first of all, it's important for people to respect the process. i wish that the democrats would invite the republicans in so that we can have more balanced review of what is taking place. i want the truth to come out. i doept want it to be for partisan purposes. an impeachment process ends up being partisan. i don't want them playing politics with it.

>> what's the question that you want to ask? >> political ramifications. i think people should respond. the president should cooperate and people who are subpoenaed should show up. let the truth come out, but have a process that includes the minority being able to call their witnesses or to challenge people. we want this to be balanced and fair and objective. yes, it's a political process. don't play politics with it. >> the response from the administration has been you have to look at what's involved in ukraine. there is another element that the president has been very clear about as well as those who support the president. and that is joe and hunter biden and their involvement or the supposed involvement with ukraine. there has been no verified information to date that there has been anything that confirms what their accusations are. >> sure. >> how much of a deal will this be going forward? >> i think for the biden

campaign, hunter biden is going to be an ongoing issue. if you take a step back, hunter biden was involved in two different countries, two different business deals at moments when his father was also working as the vice president to those countries on the foreign policy. there is an appearance of inpropriety in the era where the justice department and congress are cracking down on foreign lobbying. it's going to be difficult. i think hunter biden deciding to step down was a step towards acknowledging that an attempt to try to get people to move on from this issue. it's going to be hard. >> you have been critical of the reporting so far regarding potentially what we have seen with president trump as far as the leader of ukraine here.

can't both sides be wrong? that which are the accusations against the bidens as well as the accusations against president trump? one does not necessarily mean the other is right. a wrong doesn't make a right. >> i agree with that. believe me. i don't think the appearance of what happened with biden and his son is appropriate. i think it's the wrong appearance. i wish it hadn't been an appearance. i don't know whether hunter biden violated any law. first question would be did he violate u.s. law? i'm not sure that we know enough to say that he did or didn't violate anything. as far as i know, he didn't violate ukrainian law. i doubt that he violated u.s. law. was there a perception that was not right? yes. is there a perception in china that what hunter biden did wasn't appropriate? yes, but i'm not sure it was illegal. i don't know that it was even that unusual.

there are lots of business people who do business in china. he was doing business in china. to me, i want a process that will consider the facts and let the facts take us to judgment rather than have judgment make up facts to fit it. >> what are you watching for this coming week? it's a big week. you have congress coming back on top of that. you're both going to get rest before the headlines start coming out. >> it's interesting. this is because it's a fast moving situation in syria and impeachment process, we're going to see the president attacked by members of both parties for different reasons all week long. i'm actually very curious to see how he responds to the accusati accusations. one of the interesting things about the trump administration is under pressure the president has at key moments given allies and enemies very telling statements, some things that nobody expected that took people by surprise that changed the course of the conversation. because of the amount of

pressure coming from both parties i think we can get that again this week. >> fantastic. thanks for being in the house today. you're going to stay with us and i'll talk with you in a little bit. breaking news in florida where police in boca raton are looking into an active incident in a shopping mall. police tweeting that investigators are on the scene and investigating. this mall is currently on lockdown. people are being advised to avoid the area. we're going to monitor the situation and deliver updates to you as they become available there. a rapidly deteriorating situation in syria. the turkish advance has prompted the straigz to take drastic measures. the latest from on the ground and the new reality for u.s. influence in the region. w real. influence in the region. ♪ if you build a truck tough enough to pull this much forward...

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new today, the administration says they want to withdraw almost all u.s. troops from syria.

before today, the plan was to pull back only 50. it is caused by increased risk and protection being the primary concern now. defense secretary said president trump made his decision late last night. >> we have american forces likely caught between two opposing advancing armys. i spoke with the president last night after discussions with the rest of the national security team. and he directed that we begin a deliberate withdrawal of forces from northern syria. >> also last night the trump administration approved $50 million in assistance to protectursecuted ethnic and religious minorities in syria during the turkish offensive. the united nations reports more than 130,000 people have been displaced, this as the deal was just struck today that allows syrian troops to work with kurds the entire length of the northern border. here is the worry.

reports are isis supporters being held in detention camps have escaped during the ongoing chaos raising international alarm of an isis resurgence. >> isis is not defeated. we have got to keep the pressure on isis so they don't recover. we may want a war over and declare it over. the enemy gets a vote we say in the military. >> i think the escaped isis fighters will form the colonel of a new terrorist threat in the entire region. we have yet to see what's going to happen as a result of that, but we're not going to like the results. >> it's a shameful chapter. there is no rationale behind what mr. trump has done. >> this is the most inept diplomatic team i've ever seen at work in washington. >> joining us now, nbc news foreign correspondent on the ground in iraq.

msnbc military analyst and retired four star general. and nbc political analyst and former white house chief of staff back with us. matt, we want to start with you on the ground. it is late in the evening now on the ground there. and certainly the military activity in the conflict zone has not stopped. what is the latest. >> reporter: well, we have just heard that there were some nine people killed in a convoy including some foreign journalists. we know for sure one journalist from northern syria was killed in the attack. this is one tiny piece of a massively worsening humanitarian crisis. we are seeing more than 100,000 internally displaced people who are fleeing from the fringe between turkey and syria. and so we're now seeing dozens of dead and many more injured among the kurdish civilians.

these are the people who are fighting. they are the tip of the spear for the u.s. effort against isis. now it was just one week since the president announced he would be moving back from the border and a couple of hours since the administration announced we would be leaving northern syria almost entirely all together. so america is now turning its back on a very, very worsening humanitarian crisis in northern syria, one that is only going to get worse and worse as the turkish ground incursion moves further inland. >> general, as we hear the reporting from matt on the ground, big news here in the last 24 hours that the we are hearing from the secretary of defense, almost all of the 1,000 u.s. troops that are stationed there are to be removed. what is your reaction to that? is that the right move? >> look, the entire situation is now unraveling on us.

we have actually done quite a brilliant campaign where the kurds took 12,000 casualties and largely wrecked the caliphate. the french and the brits have been in there with us. it was a semi stable situation. mr. trump green lighting the turkish invasion. there are already 15,000 isis fighters still remaining in the area. another 10, 12,000 may well join them. it looks like we threw kerosene on glowing embers. it's a disgraceful situation. it would have never happened except for this one-on-one phone call between erdogen and mr. trump. >> as we look at the $50 million. before it was 50 that we understand were to be withdrawn, now it is almost the 1,000. can you explain to us what we

should be looking for in the next phases of what is the withdrawal of the united states from that area? and can money offset what is a lot of concern from critics of what the president has decided? >> that 50 million was nonsense. the turkish military, air ground team will bust up the kurdish fighters and will terrorize the population and try to drive them away from the border. i think what we'll see is try to dump 3.5 million refugees back into the border regions. this is an absolute outright policy we'll see unveiled of essentially ethnic cleansing where the target are the kurds who we now have abandoned to their fate. the notion of we warned them not to do it, this was caused by a

presidential conversation which said go ahead. we won't oppose you. one additional comment, turkey has turned into a disaster as a n.a.t.o. partner, getting worse in the last 15 years. we used to have nuclear weapons under n.a.t.o. agreement in turkey. we need to disable those weapons and get them out of there. turkey is no longer an asset to n.a.t.o. it's a threat. >> as chief of staff, you have been in the middle of discussions of policy and decisions regarding this part of the world. not litigating those decisions now, but i want to get your perspective of what the general just said. n.a.t.o. and turkey still being a member, what's the best way to handle this? >> first of all, i agree with general mccaffrey. he knows, he understands. there are consequences. first of all, tkurds were great

allies and did phenomenal work with us. we promised them we would protect them. >> we also understood that turkey has not been a good n.a.t.o. partner with us, didn't help us when we were trying to get into iraq to get rid of saddam hussein. he could have helped with logistics. he hasn't been a great partner. the third thing is humpty dumpty has been pushed off the wall. you can't put humpty dumpty back together again. it's going to be a mess. it's bad for allies in the region. if i was israel, i'd be worried about what was happening. i don't see anything good coming out of this. i understand that the troops are being withdrawn probably so that they will be out of harm's way. that's the only good that i can see. i don't want american troops to be in harm's way unless they

have the ability to defend themselves. >> matt bradley on the ground there. what has been the reaction of this new development of the statement coming from the secretary of defense saying almost all of the 1,000 will be withdrawn? of course, the defense, at least the reaction to that from the administration is. we also have other partners that are implementing sanctions. how are all of these headlines that we're seeing being seen there on the ground? >> reporter: it's naive to think that the sanctions would check the turkish military juggernaut. the other thing that i found in the extreme was that the sef was making a deal with the russians and the regime. that, of course, means it's

interesting that he left out the elephant in the room which is the iranians. if the sdf force fighting isis on america's behalf, if they are making a deal with the russians, it makes sense that mark esper is leaving out the iranians who are under writing the entire enterprise going on against so many forces within syria for so many years. of course, the iranians who the trump administration has made one of their main antagonists are benefitting from this more than any other group. so the iranians on the ground have been backing the syrians. they have been partners with the russians. so of course the sdf which had the option to make the alliance with the russians and syrians and iranians only months ago and the u.s. played a major role in dissueding them, they are now going hat ibhand to the

iranians. of course, we remember that the trump administration has made a very strong enemy of the iranians. they reneged on the deal, that nuclear deal that under scored what was supposed to be a nuclear piece. now they are going to be making a deal with what the trump administration considers to be their enemies. so that is one of the major ironies that has gone unstated throughout the entire episode. >> nbc news foreign correspondent, matt bradley, nbc military analyst, former white house chief of staff, andy card. thank you on a sunday. have a good one. the count down is on. just two days until the next democratic debate. we got a preview of what you can expect. why hunter biden says he is stepping down from a chinese-backed private equity firm and what that means for his father's bid for the white house. t that means for his father's bid for the white house. (engines rev) with dodge power dollars

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well, we are just two days away from the most crowded democratic debate stage to date. 12 candidates total share the stage. that's not the only reason why this one is different. it's also the first debate since the impeachment inquiry. it's also the first since biden came under attack by president trump and his allies over his son hunter biden's business dealings in ukraine. despite no wrong doing being proven in the case. adding potential debate fodder,

hunter biden will resign. mr. trump says his business dealings were done independently and not discussed with his father. the attorney saying he believed he was acting appropriately and in good faith. he never anticipated the barrage of false charges against him and his father. americans maybe a little mixed on this. this morning a cbs news you gov says 47% say they are satisfied with the response. elizabeth warren on top again. big news here with 31%. senator bernie sanders has 17% in the poll. joining us now our road warrior in columbus, ohio. the united food and commercial

food workers union is underway. host of the slate podcast trump cast, former adviser to president obama heather foster and republican political consultant. let's start off. we are looking forward to tuesday, what is the word on the ground as this state is the swing state? >> reporter: this is one of the swing states that trump won here in 2016 by around eight points. democrats are hoping they can make some inroads to reverse what happened in 2016 and put this state blue in 2020. really, i think you can't underestimate the size of the crowd that's going to be on the stage tuesday night. we have seen debates with ten people and seen how difficult it is for candidates to push their personal narrative or to make a moment for themselves either at the expense of an opponent on the stage or just pushing their own policy. so we have seen what ten people

looks like. i can only imagine what 12 is going to look like especially as they have to do a juggling act, because while washington is moving forward on the impeachment inquiry, the candidates are on the campaign trail trying to push their policy messages that voters want to hear about. i'm interested in seeing how that plays out. this is the first debate that he is qualified for. he is known as pushing impeachment even before he got in the 2020 race. i'm interested to see how he impacts the stage there. you mentioned the shifting polling and the front runner position being in flush. joe biden is still center stage there. and so i'm interested in seeing if the same kind of scrutiny and focus from the other people on the stage that we have seen with biden actually starts to apply to elizabeth warren, as well,

here. >> over to you, then, how is the biden camp reacting to the polls? this is just another one where we see elizabeth warren beating joe biden. >> obviously, the biden campaign was talking about the poll position when it comes to the general election arguing that part of why we are seeing president trump attack the former vice president so directly is because they are afraid he is going to beat him like a drum. these primary polls are something they will often down play as polls come and polls go. i think it is important in terms of what you saw hunter biden do today and his lawyer addressing the legitimate questions not just from the democratic strategists but primary voters that i talk to on the campaign trail. this statement addressing the board positions that hunter held with ukrainian energy company and the chinese-backed equity firm and laying out his plans

promising that if his father is elected he would commit to not serving on any boards or working on part of any businesses that have links to foreign governments. this is something that while the vice president says there is no allegation or suggestion that he acted inappropriately, that this is a flat out lie. this is something they did want to clear up knowing this might come up on a pretty high profile stage. >> if you are politico and watching data that might be coming up, you're looking at elections happening now. we have to look at louisiana and the incumbent democrat who runs into a runoff, has to go into a runoff was not expected necessarily. >> this is what trump is counting as a victory, because the republican who will enter into this run off slightly unexpectedly likes trump. trump calls that a victory. i am very, very tired of trump not only setting the agenda for

the conversations but a scale. trump calls it a victory when someone comp lmt lm lmts his ti >> that's the fire in the room. he will tell us over and over again that he's hugely popular. >> we're looking at president trump, louisiana. these results coming out. there is something for him to put maybe in his column based on he is getting a runoff when some folks did not think this was going to happen. >> i'm not sure why. louisiana has typically been a red-leaning state. i think the reason the current democratic governor was able to win because he was running against a republican who had a lot of problems. i'm not necessarily surprised that he is headed into a run off. i would caution republicans and

the president before saying this is certainly a victory that leads some kind of a way to convincing the american people that donald trump is certain to do well in 2020. i don't think that's the case. >> what might you take from louisiana to tuesday? what might be the lesson? >> i think the lesson is that democrats on tuesday have to be really clear with the voters what are their policies and how can they beat donald trump in the election. i think you will see continuously from senator sanders, senator warren and vice president biden really outlining the policies so that voters who are paying close attention particularly in a state like ohio, they want to know how is this going to impact the economy. what are they doing differently? it's a message that has to be clear and consistent whether it's on health care, transportation, infrastructure or the economy. >> 15 seconds, virginia. >> absolutely agree. we discuss optics so much when you talk about debates. i want the optics of

anti-optics. i want people just talking. elizabeth warren the prime example here talking about logically about policy and about what they're going to do. there is no need for fireworks right now. there is just a need to know that there is a head with a plan. >> heather, 15 seconds, who are you going to watch for? >> definitely going to watch for senator warren and vice president biden. they have both been in the news constantly over this week, so they are going to be really clear about their message. >> always great to talk to you. "l.a. times" columnist, virginia, former adviser to president obama heather foster, thank you all. up next, the impeachment battle intensifies. the white house plays hard ball by choosing not to cooperate with congress. what are the repercussions here of administration officials refusing to testify? of administration officials refusing to testify? girl: dad! keep on watching! amazing, honey. (horn tooting)

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welcome back. the white house slammed the door shut on the impeachment inquiry with the letter saying it will not comply with house democrats. a number of officials have been blocked from testifying. so far 10 subpoenas have been issued. what happens if witnesses choose not to comply to these subpoenas? they could be in jeopardy of contempt of congress. the house and senate have three types if a committee believes someone is obstructing the power to investigate. the first time is a citation of criminal contempt. the second comes in the form of a civil lawsuit. and then there is the third. the third, which we're going to focus on is interant contempt. this means the house or senate can have the sergeant at arms or deputy arrest someone for proceedings to be held in congress. the last time this happened was

back in 1935. since then congress has instead referred cases to the justice department. joining us now, senior legal affairs. back with us former u.s. attorney in the district of michigan. barbara, of these three inherent contempt, that means potentially extreme that the individual acting chief of staff could be drag to jail. is that correct? >> inherent contempt power exists. there is statutory contempt power where members of congress go to the department of justice and ask them to prosecute the case criminally. when yo ahave an executive branch behaving the way the trump administration is that is not going to take action then interant contempt may be the

only remedy left. william barr made a joke to nancy pelosi about i hope you didn't bring your handcuffs. >> of all three here, when we look at them, these are not necessarily the fastest processes. coming this friday, again, we're looking at the subpoena. will the white house produce the documents requested? most likely no, right? >> i think there is almost no chance that will happen in light of that very caustic letter that you had last week from the white house counsel to the house committees. i do think the inherent contempt power notion is a little bit of a pipe dream at this point. senior democrats up through house speaker nancy pelosi have given a lot of signals that they're not really interested in going there. she has said that nothing is off the table. but if you think about it, at the moment, she doesn't seem to want to schedule a floor vote on laurching an impeachment

inquiry. i would think starting to jail people is a far more significant escalation of the impeachment war, if you will, than having a floor vote over the issue. i'm a little doubtful we'll get there. there is a lesser step that can be done which is fining them. i wouldn't be surprised if there are some people on the hill that might make a serious effort to try to impose a financial effort. >> would jailing go too far? >> i would think so. my concern about escalating things this far would be the response ufrom the president. we have seen his rhetoric since the inquiry has increased significantly. i have become concerned that there are certain individuals within his voter base that may actually attempt to take physical harm against maybe a mb of congress or other individuals who do not support the president. i caution how quickly just because we do not know how far

the president will go in his rhetoric and how that rhetoric will be internalized by individuals who may actualize it physically to cause harm against innocent people. >> ten subpoenas out there right now. which ones are you watching? and have they lost their efficacy? >> i think some people who will testify this week are going to be very critical. gordon sondland, for example, i think is a very key witness. have they lost their efficacy? i don't know. what we saw last week with the ambassador to ukraine coming forwarard and testifying despit an order not to i think is a show of great patriotism. it will be interesting to see if others defy orders. sometimes you hear constitutional crisis. we have different branches of government working to accommodate each other and trying to work things out so that they can protect legitimate privileges and give the other branch what they need. and this white house has said we

are stone walling. we are not going to give you anything. we are fighting all the subpoenas. i think we really are at a point of constitutional crisis. one hopes that someone like gordon sondland will testify so we can get to the truth here. >> a shift in language potentially in what he's saying. i didn't hear quid pro quo. the president told me that. >> he doesn't seem to be ruling out the possibility that there might be other people either in e-mails, text messages or face-to-face conversations who did agree to some sort of quid pro quo or did propose something like that. he seems to be backing down from sort of the unwavering support we were expecting him to give for the president and the white house at least according to people familiar with the testimony. >> what do you make of the shift? >> well, i think it's something that we've seen before. we know it didn't happen. if it did, then it's okay. it seems to be one of those. i think we need to hear it from

his own mouth exactly what was going on there. >> it is a busy week ahead. senior legal affairs. always great to have you. friend of the program, republican political consultant. we have breaking news for you out of northern syria just this hour as part of the ongoing offensive. nbc confirming a convoy reportedly carrying journalists was attacked by turkish forces. joining us now for the latest is erin. what are we hearing? >> reporter: according to the syrian observatory for human rights, which is an ngo operating on the ground that tries to provide objective information, a convoy was struck by a turkish air strike killing 14 people including five civilians, wounding around 10,

according to the ngo, the convoy was traveling to a town that was captured today, claimed to be captured today by turkish forces. we have heard from some of the journalist s that were part of the convoy, a mix of journalists and civilians. france reporter was inside the convoy. she tweets we were in the convoy targeted by turkish forces and allies. our team is fine, but some colleagues are dead, no details on the colleagues. we're also waiting to hear from turkish military officials about what unfolded there today. >> the very latest with the breaking news. nbc news correspondent, appreciate it. coming up tonight at 9:00 eastern, join us for an hour long special on the impeachment

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