that is our show for today. "am joy" will be back next week. we've got some stuff going on with this storm. good day to all of you at msnbc headquarters in new york. welco welcome, everyone, to "weekends with alex witt." shifting dorian still powerful

and moving slowly. what it means for the entire east coast. we have the latest on that. an alarmed public still buying gas and groceries. we have the latest in a live report. secret snapshot. why this tweet by the president is stirring controversy. what it is and why it may have been classified. >> she said she was drinking a little bit and she was with reporters, and everything she said was off the record. >> and that's not all. a new tweet from the president today about his ousted assistant, the soap opera-like episode unfolds in the case. of course, we're beginning with the very latest on hurricane dorian. it is still a powerful category 4 storm with updated wind gusts of 150 miles an hour. it is now moving slowly at 8

miles an hour, possibly moving toward the carolinas. georgia has declared a state of emergency, north carolina and south carolina as well. hurricane force winds are expected over the bahamas tonight and could reach the florida coast sometime by monday. floridians, however, have been feverishly boarding up, stocking up as well on supplies, water, food and gas. and although that storm is slightly changing course, officials warn that heavy rains and high storm surge are still on the way. >> don't make any assumptions. remain vigilant and be prepared. even if it doesn't directly strike florida, this is a big, powerful storm. you're still looking at really significant storm surge on the east coast to florida. you're looking at major flooding events. >> and at the kennedy space center in cape canavaral, officials said this morning they

are taking no chances with hurricane force winds. events have been moved indoors until after dorian passes. we're tracking the very latest on this hurricane with forecasters for you. first up let's go to meteorologist michelle grossman and get the very latest on the tracking. slight tracking, a little bit different direction now, but pretty significant, sara? >> pretty significant. it has exceeded expectations from day one. still category 4 storm winds at 150 miles an hour. it doesn't take an image to see this is a strong storm. it's only getting stronger over very warm waters. that's like fuel for a car and we'll see that increase over the next several days. let's take a look at the track because we did have some pretty big changes. we are still seeing a category 4 storm as we go throughout time here. by sunday, over the northwestern

bahamas, if you live in that area, you want to heed any warnings from your local officials. we'll look at devastating winds, also lightning surge rz and r very heavy pitfall. we saw a shift to the east and in our latest advisory of 11:00. that is better news for our friends in eastern florida. we're definitely going to be talking about additional changes. but the latest track showing us that we're a little further to the east. ples don't put your guard down, though. you're still going to be. look what happens. this is the biggest change. it makes that steering to the north and to the east. by wednesday this is very slow. we're looking at wind speeds'

movement at about 3 to 4 miles an hour, a walking pace. we'll be talking about this for days and days, but just off the coast of south carolina, near charleston by wednesday. as we go throughout time here, thursday. we're still talking about dorian on thursday with 1 110-mile-per-hour winds. it's right between north carolina and south carolina. we'll be watching this closely for the next several days. >> we'll even. take that right-hand turn. . it goes off to the west and takes that turn around that high pressure and it moves off to the north and east. it's going to be very interesting at 11:00. we'll follow it at 50k 0 and

8:00 another advisory. but again, it takes it to the east as well. >> we talked about the winds starting to pick up. freeport, nassau, you're under a hurricane warning. you want to gerlt and we have a hurricane watch as well in the pink. let's talk about the wind field. that's about 30 miles where you see the yellow that extends out to 115. yep, we're looking at catastrophic winds in the bahamas and we're looking at the possibility of some strong winds all along the east coast. we'll be watching this very closely over the next couple days. >> keeping you busy, and certain. millions in florida, they are still in the cross hair.

>> we are. all about the preparations right now. how's it going? ly. >> alex, this has been such an unpredictable storm. i've been covering it on the ground since puerto rico. here on delray beach, 60 miles south of west palm beach, it is still an all hands on deck situation. t they were offering free tarps and sandbags yesterday. it all ran out pretty quickly. you can see the line of cars waiting for these sandbags, because right now dellray sits in the cone of uncertainty, and as michelle explained, any bump to the south and the east son

exist. mayor, tell me, rgs, and one of the things i can tell you is i think that our town is are as prepared as they've ever been for people to protect themselves. i canning up md, so we don't have any problems with projectiles if this storm hits us. >> it's been such an unpredictable storm. now some people are breathe ag sigh of relief. what's the message to the community? >> the message is we don't want to let down our guard even though there are. just as previous storms have done, they change their path just and we have to make sure

nobody rests on their guard at this point. >> wharps if many. we've had so much rain in the past couple weeks, our grounds are already saturated and we're also dealing with extra high tides recently. >> thank you so much for joining us. palm beach county under. >> brevard county is the one under warning right now. >> adding insult to injury. let's go to julia bagg who is in miami for us. julia, what's the latest from there? >> reporter: alex, a hot commodity for people all over south florida. bottled water here. some new shipments came in just this morning, two trucks, to the

costco where we are, delivering 5,000 cases of what could happen. we saw people carrying this. in grocery stores, though, we d did see all around. sir, how are you doing today? you're still collecting supplie supplies? s other people down there, it's become complicated. >> so certainly a sense of relief, but at the same time

there is still that sense of vigilance. we remember two years ago the track that irma took that was a surprise at the last minute. but good news for those here in south florida. alex? let's go to the heigwhite h now. hans nichols standing by. what's the president saying about this hurricane and what's the plan for dealing with it. >> the plan is to -- constant contact with officials getting realtime on the golf course. here's what the president put out on twitter, looking like the great south carolina could get hit much harder than first thought. georgia and north carolina also. it's moving around and very hard to predict.

it was more than we've seen in decades. be safe. the president hinted. hely. if he comes to his office tomorrow around midday, the first stop he'll make is to fema headquarters to get another briefin briefing. ly when we talk about king tides, those are the tides that are especially high due to the sun and the moon. mayor juarez, thank you for being here. such a busy time. do you have a sense of relief there, all the miami residents, that dorian may have shifted and

does not appear to be taking a direct aim at your city? >> the changing direction obviously gives us some sense of relief. we've seen so many times where these storms take a turn and avoid us entirely. like you said, we are experiencing greater than normal king tied ooemplt. we already know and as part of our infrastructure plans, we know that miami has an inadequate stormwater system, so we have just beginning to update that infrastructure. . we've taken additional precautions, we have not only the pumps that we put in since irma, but we have portable pumps, we have trucks cleaning

our drains to make sure it has. even though -- >> you're trying to clean out these king tides. are all the things very effective? >> they're still effective. we have a $200 million bond miami forever. and even though we do have the money to do it, it's going to tay tay. we saw brickell under water in 30 minutes. we have a variety of things to

look out for. >> it's only now at 8 miles an hour, and we see tracks shift all the time. is there a message out there that says, don't give in just yet, it's a category 4 storm. >> a radius where the hurricane winds are going to be felt, an incredibly large radius of where tropical storm winds are going to be felt. we cannot let our guard down. we know the hurricane is still a day or two away from affecting us, so we have to be extremely vigilant. it can change at any given moment. we've seen it happen so many times in 15 years we can never

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new reaction from the president on the departure of long-time personal assistant madeline westerhouse. she left after sharing information about his family having dinner together in front of reporters. donald trump tweeted, while madeleine westerhout has a fully enforceable confidentiality agreement, she is a very good person and i don't think there would ever be reason to use it. she called me yesterday to apologize, had a bad night. i fully understood and forgave her. i love tiffany, doing great. >> i think she really had a bad night. i think it was unfortunate. she said she was drinking, and i think the whole thing was unfortunate, and it was supposed

to be off the record, but you don't say things that are hurtful to people. >> john harwood, cnbc editor at large. john, that tweet offering praise but caution as well. what do you make of that and do you expect a tell-all book? >> no, i wouldn't. i think that as the president said, the whole thing was unfortunate. you had an assistant that wasn't being discreet with reporters and somehow that got back to white house officialofficials. i don't know if it was tiffany westerhout herself or reporters blabbing a little bit. the sad thing is what the content of those communications supposedly were, and the fact the president seems motivated to

affirm his love for his daughter. that's pretty sad. >> yeah, that's pretty sad. would it not be cool if a reporter were the one that leaked it at an off-the-record dinner, john? >> well, the staffer at the off-the-record dinner is the one who disseminated the information. reporters should not take information they receive off the record and report it. they should not share it with other people. but we don't know that that's what happened. ms. westerhout could have recounted what happened at the dinner and others decided that's not appropriate. >> you had mick mulvaney saying an ambivalent mr. trump had to

be persuaded throughout the day thursday that ms. westerhout, who was on vacation in california, needed to resign, which she did that night. >> staffers need to have a reputation of not leaking the madeleine has had access to the goings-on more than thibanybody else. the fact that thus far she didn't have a history leaking would have gone a long way to help earn her trust by the president. the irony here, though, it's unlikely that anyone would have written a story based on statements she made to the press if they hadn't fired her. if the white house had kept madeleine on, it's likely what she told those reporters in an off-the-record context and that

was shared in the gossip chain would have stayed in the d.c. gossip chain and it wouldn't have been reported in a story. in this case the overreaction, or what appears to be an overreaction, resulted in more negative publicity for the trump family than might have happened otherwise. >> in terms of the overreaction, what about the reports that she wasn't really endearing herself to fellow west wingers. what do you hear about that? >> there is always fighting among senior white house staff. i had a conversation with one of the press that even though there's been more infighting with senior staff in the last year or so that seems to challenge the competency of them is just as much as the early days of trump's presidency. the situation that westerhout was in of being able to block

access to the president is going to have enemies and rivals and people who dislike her. that's unfortunate, but it's part of the job. >> i want to get your reaction to tweeting out what experts say most certainly is an image of a satellite or drone showing the aftermath of that accident. betsy, is this something the president can share without the association of his aides? >> the president has the ultimate classification authority. anything the press has access to the president has the legal authority to share with the public. the problem is there's too much classification when it comes to national security issues. in this case what the president tweeted was certainly interesting and newsworthy. i'm not certain that it's resulting in unanimous concerns within the intelligence community. it's not a secret, of course, that we have satellites that try

to zoom in on activity going on in iran. there are some in the national security space that is looking at this image the president has tweeted and say, what rigorous declassification process did it go through to make sure the iranians didn't get new information about our space capabilities because the president released that. >> john, over to you. any specific information about this tweet? >> i suspect he was tweeting the iranians and saying, look what we have access to. as betsy said, he has the authority to declassify anything he wants, but i found that shocking and i have to think intelligence officials briefing the president are going to be a little more evident about sharing information with him. if he thinks it's truly sensitive, and that's what

reporters need to be prepared for. >> betsy, john, good to see you both. thanks so much. new legal questions after the president suggests holding next year's g7 summit at his own golf course. changing course. a new. the storm moving to georgia, inco north carolina and even south carolina. this is anne marie peebles.

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hurricane dorian changing course while it churns in the atlantic. take a look right now at miami beach. it could be spared by the brunt of the storm on this apparently very sunny day. here's dunlawton beach. it shows this category 4 storm moving up the coast. certainly not out of the woods yet. meteorologists warning that florida could still see hurricane force winds and life-threatening storm surge. some new accusations, the president is using his office to benefit financially and a new allegation today in the new york

post about how he once pledged not to use his office to help his business but has used it about 70 times in speeches and statements, including last week when he made the case for hosting next year's g7 summit at his golf course. >> with doral we have a series of magnificent buildings. we call them bungalows. they each hold 50 to 70 very luxurious rooms with magnificent views. we have very nice restaurants. the ballrooms are among the biggest in florida and the best. it's brand new. and they want -- my people wanted it. from my standpoint, i'm not going to make any money. in my opinion, i'm not going to make any money. i don't want to make money. i don't care about making money. >> well, the house judiciary committee is vowing to investigate those comments as part of its impeachment inquiry. the chairman argues, quote, the

personal financial interests are clearly shaping decisions about official u.s. government activities. we have with us, head of appropriations and entertainment festivities, which makes you a very busy man. what do you think of the president's very magnanimous description of the property, following it up saying he's not interested in making money. really? >> this is the president of the united states. no one should be surprised. let's remember what michael cohen told congress, that the whole campaign for president would be the world's largest infomercial to protect the president and his corporate interest. nothing has changed since that time. the special counsel's report, manafort and cohen. this was all about making a buck and the president was a leading example of that.

from trump tower moscow where he was going to profit extraordinarily and he was using his campaign as president, the possibility that he would be president to leverage that deal. doral is a more recent example. there is another example of an investment soon to take place. there are questions about whether he. it should be torn down and built someplace elsewhere it's more appropriate. the president allegedly pressured against this because he was worried it would be replaced with a hotel that would compete with his own hotel. this is not business as usual for our country. it's the president out to make a buck. >> when the president said, from my standpoint i'm not going to make any money -- in my opinion, i'm not making any money. how much about making money is opinion? i thought it was black and white dollars and cents. it's pretty much, you're going

to make some money or not, and even if hosting the floodgates substantially, what about the publicity he stands to gain? >> he's processing his assets on an ongoing basis. but we know that government officials are staying at his resorts. >> he is permanent and this is on the other side. but on the other side, what's important in the mueller report. my committee will be focused on money laundering to whether or not the president was compromised. nothing in this investigation is not interconnected. it's all related and it's all to profit the president. >> we should point out the doral golf course specifically between 2016 and 2017 has lost $17

million overall. so you can understand why he might want to prop up that property there. i know the courts are considering what could constitute another. you're a lawyer, so what effect would it have if the president did host the g7 summit at the doral resort? >> it shines a negative light on this and pressures republicans in congress to get off the ball and push the president back on this. we only heard a few voices with a scant amount of profiles encouraged step up, but i do think it enhances the courts to do the right thing on these matters. >> should the president host the g7 at his golf course? is that an impeachable offense? >> i think it's one in a long

series of impeachable offenses. it's also something that hurts our image across the world. i was pleasured to join president obama in the g7 summit, the status of this country and around the world. the obama administration going to germany where no one was worried about profiting. the topics at the g7 are absolutely critical. here we have the president of the united states, the topics are going to be how much money does he make? i think it will influence how other governing bodies view our country. >> my friend, congressman mark quigley joining us from chicago. have a great holiday weekend. thank you very much. >> thank you. the third democratic debate is now set and i'm going to speak to billionaire tom stieye on the outside looking in. why critics say he's trying to buy his way in.

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to the race now for 2020. the third democratic debate is now set. 20 contenders will take place in houston next month on a single night. a few candidates just missing the threshold, which that includes tom steyer which just needed one more qualifying poll. joining me now, tom steyer, a 2020 presidential candidate. welcome to you, tom.

it's good to see you, as always. do you feel you should have made the cut for next month's debate? was the dnc's criteria too strict, too loose? what is it you have a beef with, if you do? >> the way i understand is you needed to get 130,000 individual donors, which people thut ought couldn't do but which we did with two weeks to spare. and you needed to get polls in primary states. the polls that came out in the last two weeks which the dnc didn't accept showed that i had between 6 and 7% in four early primary states, and that put me in either fourth place or in fifth place in the polling. so from my standpoint, i more than made the criteria. what happened was nobody ran a state poll for the last three or four weeks. so even though there were polls that showed that i made a multiple of what their requirement was, there weren't ones which the dnc would count.

so those are the rules, so i think my message is breaking through. that's what i care about. i care about whether the people who hear what i have to say and listen to me think, okay, that's something that's important, that's different, i'm for that. and that's what's happening. >> okay. message notwithstanding, do you think the time has come to begin whittling down the numerous voices coalescing around those who have a realistic chance of beating donald trump? is that what might be happening with this debate? >> look, from my standpoint, when i look at this, i'm an outsider. i spent ten years as an outsider in the political system taking on corporations, trying to push democracy of, by and for the people. when i look at what's going on here, i see a whole bunch of people who are political insiders talking about policy. i think when the time comes to face mr. trump, i'm somebody who

built a business from scratch into a big international business. he's going to run on the economy. i would love to expose him as the fraud and failure that he is as a businessman and as a leader of the country economically. he doesn't know jack about what he's talking about when it comes to economics, and i'd love to be the person to expose that, because that's what my background is and i think i'm really different from the other candidates in that way, alex. >> do you think not making the stage for this debate changes anything for your campaign? will you go about it different in terms of tactics? >> no, i don't think we'll change at all. my goal is to get a chance to talk directly to americans. just so you know, i've been doing this for seven years. it is the most fun thing in the world. really, i'm not teasing you. going to iowa and talking to people, and now we're talking to farmers about what's going on in their life and understanding that. going to south carolina and

talking to people who are having trouble with clean water where the state won't support them and their families. this is a learning experience that i consider to be tremendously exciting. it is just the best thing i can think of. so am i going to stop doing that? no, that's exactly what i've been doing. that's exactly what i love doing. and that's exactly what i'm going to continue doing. >> it is remarkable buecause th general 411 on you is you do have the capacity to speak to the average citizen, and you do a good job of it, clearly focusing on issues that are important to them. but there is some criticism that has been named aimed at this ans this. it is suggested that you are trying to buy a seat at the table. what do you say to that? >> for everyone who wants to be a democratic nominee, there is a question. do you have a positive vision to talk to americans? not to complain about mr. trump, not to denigrate mr. trump. i started the move to impeach

movement. i think people know how i feel about mr. trump. but that's not the question. the question is the american people are wondering how are we going to get a positive vision about what it means to be an american and what we're going to do in the 21st century together? that's what i'm focused on. that's what the american people really care about. what are you going to do for me and my family? that's what i care about. >> what about the politics of impeachment. there are now 134 democrats. they are for an impeachment against trump? is this something you'll run simultaneously against him? >> i started the need to impeach movement almost two years ago, alex. i said this president is the most corrupt president in history, he's a criminal. that organization continues to push that, but i'm not spending

any time on it. from my standpoint, what i need to focus on and what i'm dying to focus on is to talk to the american people about our bloeken government. until we restore admonitidiplom for and by the people, we're not going to get religious rites or clean drinking water. i've been organizing coalitions of ordinary citizens and i've been beating them. that's what i want to fight on. >> and you'll do it. thank you for talking to me. from bad to worse, what a new poll reveals about the president's chances for a second

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let's look at 2020 and what the "washington post" is calling

the worst 2020 poll yet. it shows a surge of voters souring on the economy, more now saying it's getting worse than getting better, at 37% to 31%. that's a 40% increase since just this june. chris lu, policy adviser for steve bullock's campaign. he also served as cabinet secretary to president obama. and political analyrick, politi. welco welcome, all of you. what is it about this shift for the president? >> their prospects for the future are bright, their 401(k) is strong and growing. but if the economy is weakening with this president who, because of the economy, should be well over 50%. he's never broken 350%, and now

th -- 50%, and now this poll has it at an all-time low. americans believe it's getting worse, not better. americans believe his policies have to do with the economy getting worse, not better. the final point is, put it all in perspective. donald trump says it's the world's greatest economy, and he's right about that, it is the world's greatest economy. but every president since 1864 has been able to say exactly the same thing. there hasn't been a single time period between then and now where this wasn't the world's greatest economy. >> danielle, what about democrats in terms of how they are processing this? do they see a political advantage to a weakened economy? and for those democrats who are really hoping for a bad economy, i mean, come on, aren't democrats citizens too that don't want to deal with a bad economy? >> nobody wants a bad economy if

you were to make that decision to say, i want donald trump to fail. what is getting in our way of the economy being as robust as it should is because donald trump can't help himself on twitter. he can't help himself for lying on twitter about china. china did not call him on the phone and say, yes, we're ready to come to the table and make a deal. so every time he gets on twitter to attack the president of china, to attack the trade deal, to attack the democrats, his numbers fall. there are numbers there that his whole administration need to pay attention to. >> can i ask you about the back and forth about the china phone call? the president said they called him and they said, no. where does the truth lie? >> the truth doesn't lie in donald trump's mouth, that's for sure. the chinese weren't in conversation with him. that's why they keep slapping

more and more tariffs on us, the fact that donald trump keeps lying and they think he will do so on the world stage and pressure him into meeting them at the table. that's not the way politics should work. >> what about the polls, chris, which found the top five all meeting the president in matchups by nine or more points. joe biden, look at that, leading by a whopping 16. irlts very early, i know, but how significant are the sizes of the margin at this point? >> it's significant and it's not just the margin that stands between him and democrats. if you look at that quinnipiac poll from a couple weeks ago, trump is peaking at 39%. so possibly a third party candidate as well, he doesn't really have margin for error right now. what's interesting, when you start to dig into these polls is where his standing is on individual issues. as you mentioned, he's sort of

below water on the economy right now. that was the only issue he was doing well. you look at the other things, health care and national security, even his view on immigration, there are a vast amount of americans who disagree with his policy. what we have found is no matter what news happens, good or bad, trump's approval ratings essentially sort of stay in the low 40s, high 30s. >> around 42 pretty much, right? that's where it tends to always fall. what does that mean, then? if it can stay in that range, is that good for the president? chris? >> what it means is his only path to victory is one of two things. it's a third party candidate needs to jump in there or he needs to trash the democratic nominee and bring that person down to his level. it's not thought that he can successfully do that at this point.

>> quinnipiac university found female voters went for the democratic candidates by 23 points or more. how worrying is that for trump? >> it's huge, and also trump has lost 22 percentage points among independents. i remember independents broke for trump the last time because they decided, what the heck, let's see what this guy can do. they're now decisively breaking the other way. i do think this is a big problem for joe biden, though, because he's the only one that can beat trump. that's not clue anymorely. >> i think donald trump should be worried. w white suburban women not really falling for it this time around. he's losing them and that will be a problem for him. shifting course, the path of hurricane dorian changing

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good day, everyone, here from msnbc headquarters in new york. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." we begin this hour with the very latest on hurricane dorian, expected to remain a powerful category 4 storm through tuesday. right now it is packing winds of up to 150 miles an hour, moving very slowly.

the latest forecast suggesting a sharp turn north. dorian may now make landfall in georgia and the carolinas instead of a direct hit. atlanta and tampa may be spared but officials are still bracing for hurricane force winds, heavy rains and high storm surge. >> we've seen so many times, unfortunately, where some of these storms have changed course for the better and for the worse very, very rapidly, so we are still on full alert. we're monitoring the storm very, very closely. >> and at the kennedy space center in cape canavaral, officials said a few hours ago they are taking no chances at all with hurricane force winds. lawn chairs have been moved indoors, the complex will be closed later today and remain closed until after the storm passes. we're following the very latest on hurricane dorian with a team of reporters and forecasters. first up, let's get an update on the path of that storm with msnbc meteorologist michelle grossman. keeping you busy? where is it heading? >> we're seeing changes with

every single advisory. from the very beginning last wednesday, this was a small storm. we called it mighty mouse. the tropical storm has increased to a category 4 storm. you can see how strong it is with that eye right there, the blossoming thunderstorms, and we're looking at winds at 150 miles an hour, and it's moving west at 8 miles an hour. it doesn't sound like it means much, but it's starting to slow down. we'll see it slow down drac drastically and put its brakes on over the bahamas. a category 4 storm on sunday, still 150-mile-an-hour winds. but as we go over the bahamas, sometime monday it's going to put its brakes on, it's going to stall. we could see 24 inches of rain. we'll closely monitor this over the next four days. think of this hurricane almost as a quarterback.

if it didn't have anyone ahead of it, it would go straight to the goalpost. but it has steering, it has others pushing it. that's what changes the forecast. as we go through time, and look how slow it is. we're talking monday, tuesday, even into thursday. watch how it moves off to the north and also to the east. it takes that right-hand turn, and now we're including charleston, we're including parts of north carolina, and this is something we're really going to watch over the next several days. wednesday at 8:00 a.m., still talking about dorian. this is a week and a half later at a category 4 storm. then it moves to the north to determine where we'll actually see this landfall. it's so important to watch us. see this cone, we're still including parts of eastern florida. miami, you're out of the cone at this point so you can breathe a sigh of relief. but parts of florida still in this cone so you want to still remain prepared. let's look at other models.

we have an american model following that same path, following that right-hand curve. as we go throughout time here, advisory after advisory showing this same thing, we start to get a little more confident. we will watch that over the next several days. the european model, the third model, showing that hurricane on high. again, it's a long duration. we'll be talking about this until at least next saturday as we go throughout time. let's talk about what is happening right now. we are looking at a hurricane watch, hurricane warning, so freeport and nassau, i mentioned 24 inches of rain are possible in those areas. a hurricane watch where you see the pink. you want to heed your warnings, you want to listen to your local officials over the next several days. we're looking at the possibility of catastrophic winds and we'll certainly hear stories from there over the next several days. >> yikes, 24 inches of rain possible in the bahamas. >> you can't wrap your head around it. >> there is a lot of trouble headed their way. i want to take a quick look

here. this is satellite beach, florida. as you can imagine, people are using the plywood there to board up businesses and try to keep themselves safe even though we're hearing from michelle that it may not be a direct hit on florida, this is the wise thing to do. so good on those folks there in satellite beach, florida. of course, millions are still in the crosshairs. we've got live team coverage on the ground there. we have julia bagg from nbc 6. she joins us live from miami. but still mariana atencio in miami, florida. i know the mayor isn't taking a chance of it letting up, and there you see boarded-up windows. this is smart. >> reporter: alex, as you drive through the community, you can see many businesses boarding up. the dunkin' donuts across the street boarding up as well. i have to say i've been covering

this from miami beach all the way to the east coast, and there is a change in the mood. people are sort of relaxing a little bit with a change in the forecast, but that's exactly what authorities don't want to see. we heard governor desantis say any bump to the east could potentially put a lot of these communities back at risk. as you mentioned, many of these beachside cities, communities along the east coast of florida are still in the crosshairs, still in that cone of uncertainty. here in del ray which is about 60 miles west of the palm beach, sandbags running out in less than an hour, people boarding up, and the mayor telling me they're in full preparedness mode. this is the message from her constituents. >> we're in the wait and see mode but we're still remaining vigilant knowing that just as the track changed last night, it can change today and could be

heading toward us. we're just keeping an eye on what's going on and making sure that everyone communicating with us should not let their guard down just yet. >> there is flooding and then you have the king tides which are at 100% right now. the ground is already saturated so they will feel the effects of this storm, and that's why it is so important for businesses and homes to be vigilant and to prepare. this county, palm beach county, right now under voluntary evacuation order, but of course that could change in the next couple days. >> joining me now, julia bagg from our nbc station in miami, nbc 6. julia, let's talk about the hurricane prep there. i'm trying to look behind you. things look very well stacked, so they've got supplies. doesn't look like they're running out of that yet.

>> reporter: no, alex, they do have plenty of plywood. families taking no chances here, either taking home plywood or taking home some plastic to be able to protect their homes. they remember two years ago with irma asly. people taking water home by the case. a truck delivering 5,000 cases and customers were happy to take that home saying bottled water elsewhere has been hard to find. >> weaver tried to get something, water for the kids, you know. >> i came yesterday. there wasn't none. i came yesterday and there was no more water, so i had to get here early today. >> water to drink, stay hydrated during the hurricane in case the water goes out or something goes bad.

>> the other thing we're seeing here that sandbags are being put on possible future high water. you can see plenty of plywood and families coming and taking a look either at this or at something else to be able to protect their homes. people had trouble finding and we know that gas continues to be delivered to stations all across florida. in fact, the governor ordering that state troopers accompany these tankers to make sure the deliveries get where they are supposed to be. alex, that's what things look like here. we'll go ahead and send it back to you. >> that's quite a statement from the troopers accompanying the

tankers. let's go to the white house now. we have nbc's kelly o'donnell there at her post. kelly, good afternoon to you. what is the president saying about dorian and what is his plan? >> reporter: at the moment, the president is at one of his golf courses in suburban georgia, but he's getting updates on this storm. presidents are often judged by how these things go and they have a responsibility at the federal level with involvements by fema or things sent in. the president is doing a lot of tweeting and reflecting about how the path appears to have taken a change that you already explained in the show. here's one of the tweets that reflects that. looking like our great south carolina could get hit harder than first thought. georgia and north carolina also.

it's moving around and very hard to predict rkts except that it is one of the biggest and strongest and really wide that we have seen in decades. be safe. the president spending time in camp david this year. we've seen how he has taken briefings from camp david, having part of his natural security team that has responsibilities most closely aligned with federal emergency response with him on the ground at camp david. as i said, he's golfing at the moment, or at least on the grounds of his golf club for a few hours. there will be critics who say he shouldn't be doing that. he has canceled his trip to poland where we planned to be with him to cover ceremonies there. so the president has upended his schedule to monitor this storm, and the white house is paying close attention. there are, the degree of which

it is ready ford this. >> don't go away too far. i'm to have you talk about a sort of gossip girl incident that happened. >> how do officials handle dorian? when it shifts, it may now cover north carolina and additional states. >> they can cover any scenario. the team has people in tallahassee and georgia. it does start, as you mentioned, at the local and state level, so folks are encouraged to listen to their local people, download the fema app and monitor. have a plan in place for your

family. if you've followed, and by the way, south carolina has just announced its state of emergency as we as welly. looking at george who is in the crosshairs potentially, north carolina as well. when is the criteria when they say, okay, launch the standing. >> it all starts at the state level. but i got to tell you, fema is already doing that florida being a peninsula, it's a little harder to pre h-they've been looking at how much time it would take toie v evacuate.

this is a well practiced thing that emergency folks do all the time. so again, if you're told to to -- go, you go. what is the biggest challenge in situations like this? is it the placement of supplies? what is the big issue. >> the public plays a part. please listen and do what you're asked to do. don't have any storms without this. we know we need to look. the tropical wind force and heavy rains that are expected to

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hurricane dorian changing course while it churns in the atlantic. you're taking a live look at miami beach, florida. florida could still see hurricane force winds and life-threatening storm surge into early next week. the national weather service says the category 4 storm will impact florida late monday and then move up the coast. also new today, reaction from the president to the resignation of his personal assistant who quit her post thursday after sharing personal information about the first family during an off-the-record dinner with reporters. i'm bringing back nbc's kelly o'donnell. kelly, quite the story here. what is the president saying about it? >> reporter: this is so unusual, and really it's unfortunate across the board. this is a position so seldom seen by the public, and frankly,

rarely seen even by journalists. this is the kind of staffer who is right at the door of the oval office, who is a gatekeeper, a greeter, intended to be a secret keeper for any president, and madeleine westerhout has been there since the beginning of the administration, had previously worked for the rnc, so not a trump campaign carryover but a long part of this team. so she has tweeted about her sudden departure. while madeleine westerhout has a fully enforcible confidentiality agreement. she is a very good person and i don't think there would be any reason to use it. she called me yesterday to apologize. had a bad night. i fully understood and forgave her. i love tiffany, doing great.

what happened here there was an off-the-record gathering for reporters, apparently none from nbc news, from other outlets. she spoke about the president's family. the president is sort of complicating that by referencing his daughter tiffany in this public way. so he is making that more public by saying, i love tiffany. doing great. apparently over a period of days now, that came to the attention of the white house, was brought to our attention. probably any white house rules in corporate america anywhere is even if you're having an off-the-record conversation frequently done on policy, the inner workings of the white house, even disagreements of the course of action an administration should take, there is always a firewall around family. the marriage of the president, the family, the children, the grandchildren. that's just something where you just don't see staffers ever talk about that. apparently, based on the

reporting that in this case there were comments made about the president's children, he said so publicly. and so she gave her resignation, and it is, of course, the end of her career here at the white house. the president says he forgave her, but in that tweet he reminds there is a non-disclosure agreement. we don't know independently if she signed that agreement. of course. the unfortunate circumstance for everybody here, and the fact that this person had a very unfortunate evening. >> i want to quote betsy

woodruff who we talked to in the last hour. she said it's sad that he felt he had to go out on twitter and say, i love tiffany. that's just painful to say that. i'm sure you have similar agreements on that, but the white house could have kept this story under wraps if westerhout was not forced to resign. did they have no choice but to remove her, or could it have slipped under the radar? >> i think it could have slipped under the radar. trump sort of had to be persu e persuaded to do something about this, but as kelly was saying, this can get you in trouble even if it's said off the record with reporters. the president cares about his family, obviously, and has it very dloes -- close, and it

seems to have touched a nerve. >> she's been in law school, she's not working in the white house, and she's not work as a campaign. >> with regard to the tweet which is making the reference, is it unusual for a white house aide to have to sign that or is that white house procedure? >> we don't know for sure she signed such an agreement, but it is pretty standard for government positions that are so high leveled. it wouldn't be surprising. trump sees to sort of see a sort

of loyalty with the president. we've seen this with amirosa and others, so it's easy to see this play out. >> do you think this is because she's going elsewhere? >> they had a pretty good rapport. he saw her going to meetings and saying disparaging remarks about her child, so he had that, but he still felt a warmness toward her. >> he sort of dangled the confidentiality agreement and that he would slr.

>> maybe we do see a book or tell-all, or maybe it won't get there. he was asked yesterday about whether or not he fired west westerhout. >> i think she had a bad night. i think it was unfortunate. she said she was drinking. the whole thing was very unfortunate and i think the press was very dishonest because it was supposed to be off the record, but still, it went to something painful. >> he says this is automatic stuff, bought cording to the she said he needed to resign. what do you think he was

persuaded? >>. when there's somebody the president trusts, he really a add -- had people around him that he trusted, so the president wants to keep those around him that he considers trustworthy and the people he values close to him, so i think that's part of the reason. that's part of the reason why he thought, we'll just keep her on, ing wishing that he had. speaking of dorian, it is slow and powerful and why it could strike the u.s. and why inland areas could still cope with the major effects of this storm.

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hurricane dorian going strong and changing course as you get a live look at sunny isles beach just novrth of miam. florida could avoid a direct hit

but other states are now in danger. joining us from the national hurricane center, ken grant. give me the current advisory, what it's telling you, and is dorian still gaining strength? >> sure, alex. we see the eye, we see the structure, and we're getting new data as well. we're getting doppler images right in the center. and as a result we're taking all this information and the latest winds a 150-mile-an-hour hurricane. very powerful, and even slowing down to 2 miles an hour. very slow movement by the time it gets to the ba hahamabahamas. >> is it going to make a hit, turn to north carolina? what is your prediction? >> these things have to slow down as they turn.

if we turn a little early, we could be on the right side of this cone. however, sometimes bh they slow down, we wobble around a little bit. it's all about timing. either way, still could be strong winds, a lot of rain and also storm surge. >> of what are you most frightened, ken? >> i can tell you if you go back in time, half of the storm is the water. that's what really hurts people. >> can i ask you about the bahamas? they seem to be smack dab in the middle of things and they're going to get a direct hit. >> it worries me so much. slow is never our friend. 2 miles an hour, a merge hurricane. you're talking all those winds

for a prolonged period of time. that's more time to push that storm surge. very dangerous position for the bahamas, so i encourage anyone, please listen to that word from the officials. >> ken graham, thank you very much for being here on msnbc. pompano beach, florida, is a place given some orders. how is it going in terms of evacuation? >> reporter: alex, good morning to you. they have been preparing for several days now ahead of this storm, some people as early as wednesday. you mentioned boarding up. some people are in danger. irma did some serious damage, and i want to bring in peter here, he is the owner of

bizaro's, an italian restaurant. you decided to stay open, at least for now. i understand there is a mandatory evacuation zpz. thaifr been after me for 19 years. don't mind giving back to them. we'll be there for them. >>. tell me what this would be like on a good labor. there will be so much traffic, the roads will be full. this year there is nothing.

it's almost deserted. >> how is that going to hurt your bottom line this year? >> we hope for the best after everything is over. we'll get back on our feet slowly, but surely. >> reporter: are you feeling a little bit better knowing that the course is shifting a little bit, or is it still kind of unpredictable? you've done this before. >> from my experience, so many times we think we'll get a direct hit. thank god we never did. now it's shifting out east, going up the coast, which hopefully goes as far as it can. then again, we're only a couple days away and anything can happen. >> absolutely. peter, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> alex, back to you. >> we're wishing everyone luck there on satellite beach. coming up next, it's an. we're tracking hurricane

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today in the race for 2020, bernie sanders is set to introduce a new plan to eliminate outstanding medical debt. he teased us yesterday, so let's take a listen. >> it is an insane and cruel system which says to the people that they have to go deeply into debt or go bankrupt because of what, because they came down

with cancer, or they came down with heart disease, or they came down with alzheimer's or whatever? what we have got to do is say you cannot go bankrupt or you cannot end up in financial duress because you got sick. >> joining me is gary rumbach. can you walk us through his plan? >> sure, absolutely. it's $81 billion elimination of all past due medical debt. the federal government will work that out with the collection companies. it's also a repeal of certain elements of the 2005 bankruptcy bill. this was a bill that at the time representative sanders voted against when he was a representative in vermont. it would only be certain portions of that bill. and also credit scores would not be affected by that the all. they would make sure there would be no effect to anyone's credit scores because of medical debt. now, as you can tell, it's a little bit late on the details

here. that's because senator sanders wasn't necessarily supposed to go out and say this yesterday at the event, it was in answer to a question from a woman who asked about the fact that she was drowning in medical debt, and she said, senator sanders, what are you going to do about this if elected president? he said, well, i'm going to eliminate medical debt. of course, reporters said, wait a sec, we haven't heard that. that's new. and they came out with this as news this morning. it would be $81 billion in past due medical debt completely wiped away. >> you're very correct when you say it is very light on the details but at least the intention is there. just want you all to know, gary, and anyone else who is listening, msnbc has confirmed the next debate date held in housthu ohio. there will be ten in the next

one. it will be right after columbus day weekend. just want to make sure you're aware because we just got that news, gary grumbach. ruth bader ginsberg speaking out for the second time after undergoing surgery for a cancer tumor. 4,000 people went to hear her speak. listen to a portion of what she told the crowd. >> how am i feeling? first, this audience can see that i am alive. i'm on my way to being very well. but one thing, i love my job. it's the best and the hardest job i have ever had. it has kept me going through four cancer bouts inste.

instead of concentrating on my aches and pains, i just know that i have to read this set of briefs, go over the draft opinion, and so i have to somehow surmount whatever is going on in my body and concentrate on the court's work. >> amazing. next tuesday, justice ginsberg is scheduled to speak in little rock, arkansas. that's where organizers say there is a waiting list of thousands of people to hear her. loose lips sink ships. they cost another white house insider her job, but what was she doing there in the first place? of course we continue to follow hurricane dorian as it tracks to the east coast. we'll be right back.

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changing course while it's churning in the atlantic. we'll give you more updates as we get them. the president adding a new twist this morning to the soap opera like episode. he tweeted in part, while madeleine westerhout has a fully enforcible confidentiality agreement, she's a very good person and i don't think there would ever be reason to use it. joining me now, policy strategist elena beverly, bill press, host of the bill press pod, and senate majority leader bill fritz. alana, first to you. does it feel like a threat to

. this is a violation of his own creation. i worked as aides to the president where they would speak with the first family on or off the record with media. part of the reason why this is a veiled threat, alex, is he knows that westerhout has very sensitive information, knows personal information about him and the way he's operating in this white house. again, he is the leaker in chief. he is the one that's created a caustic environment in the white house and one that would leak confidential information left and right. it is no surprise that his engendered staff would do the same. >> and you're suggesting, hey, you better not think about writing some tell-all? absolutely. we have amirso with "unhinged," we have folks in the white house who would leak his schedule. he knows a tell-all might be coming. >> amy, he's really dishing on this story behind the departure.

what does it get him? >> i thought it a threat as well. michael wolff have been best sellers. even amirosa made a lot of money trying to dish her dirt. i thought, is betty curry ready to come out of retirement because there was a white house secretary and scheduler who knew how to be discreet. it seems donald trump has surrounded himself with a lot of blabbermouths. then you have anthony scaramucci who, to this day, is saying he's going to try to run a candidate against donald trump. i understand white houses are leaky ships. this would not be the first one. even obama's white house had leakers and president bush before him. but maybe more discreet and more experienced people would be better than young people trying to make their bones with the

white house press corps. . what about you, bill? >> i'm wondering if they're hoping to get that contract, right? i almost must say as a person who covered the white house, there is no reason at all. she should never have had an off-the-record dinner with reporters. wrong for her to do that -- >> hold on, hold on. >> we all just jumped on you, i'm sorry. this is typical of washington. >> in that job, as you mentioned betty curry, you cannot imagine betty curry going out and dishing on the first family. never, never, never. that is one of the most sensitive jobs in the american government. that person sits right outside the oval office.

as a reporter, i would have loved it, reporters should not have leaked it. president trump demands loyalty. he doesn't provide loyalty himself to these people and scaramucci and amirosa are now against him. if you treat people like crap, it will come back and bite you in the butt. >> i want to clear up one thing where he said, why are all these women coming at you? i think you're saying that particular position, the president's personal secretary, betty curry for an example, that that position should not be one that does off-the-record dinners with journalists. is that what you're saying? we know that is standard operating procedure. >> yes, for her, she should not have done it, and i believe reporters who had that dinner

should not have leaked it. shame on both of them. >> here's what i was going to add which is i think one of the problems we see with this administration, that donald trump's m.o. has been to operate with family, people who have been close to him for years ask years, but in the white house they have their own agenda they want to burnish and they have reporters they want to say, i get you, you get me, and when i'm out of this, we're going to do work together. >> so alaina, it begs the question, why does this president keep surrounding himself with people he cannot trust? >> oh, alex, very few people want the job to be so close to president trump. i think that basically he's dredging the bottom of the barrel to get staffers to be in this administration. this is not a prestigious position. i also want to say this is an environment, as i mentioned, that he created because he is also the leaker in chief.

this is the same man who was tweeting out confidential launch pad pictures from national security briefings. you create leadership by what you demonstrate. if you're a parent, if you're a boss, if you're the president. >> people -- it's been a tough go for the media, employers. it's hard to work with this president because when you get out of the white house, a lot of people don't give you credit. >> really quick, bill. >> really quick. i think the trade person of this administrati administration, give me a break. >> good to see you guys. have a good holiday. in just minutes, the white house will be reporting on dorian's latest moves.

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