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senate. it will be through the same constitutional body that allowed his election in the first place, the electoral college. it's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight on "all in" -- >> i'm not losing texas to anybody. we have a tremendous lead in texas. >> a political earthquake in trump country. >> texas congressman will hurd, the only black republican in the house, announcing he will not seek reelection next year. >> tonight, the latest evidence that the bigotry of trumpism is helping democrats and hurting trump. plus, an ugly ending to another trump nomination fiasco. >> when i give a name, i give it out to the press, and you vet for me. >> ta-nehisi coats on the president's latest sinister attack on elijah cummings in the city of baltimore. plus -- >> where we go one, we go all. >> a slogan at the trump rally on the day the fbi warned of a
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domestic terror threat posed by fringe conspiracy theories. and the jaw-dropping scene in green land as the sea rises and massive ice sheet melts. "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. amidst all the angsty hand ringing about the democratic firing squae ing squad in the l of debates, there is something more interesting happening on the ground among republicans. in the last week three texas congressmen decided to call it quits, and that includes one of the most politically skilled and able members of the house republican caucus, will hurd. he is one of only three republicans anywhere in the hillary clinton district that managed to survive the 2018 blue wave. he represents 800 miles of border with mexico. he's the only republican african american in the house, and him saying goodbye is quite simply a huge deal.
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abbie livingston, the texas tribune leader who covers texas, and you should definitely follow tweeted my phone is absolutely exploding with texts and republican operatives reacting to the retirement. all have a word i don't usually use on this forum and my mother highly disapproves of, but it rhymes with duck. here's what it means about texas. republicans already lost two congressional seats in 2018, and for years lib rams have been crying wolf about texas turning blue, yet it never happens. last time around beto o'rourke only lost the statewide senate race to ted cruz by less than three points. and harris county, which includes part of the houston suburbs went hard for o'rourke. the map looks pretty, but all those cities where a lot of people live are very, very blue. now we're seeing this in all these suburbs that republicans have counted on in the past as well. despite the blue wave in 2018, there were few representatives in close races who managed to hang on. but now in just the past little stretch of time, two of them, will hurd and pete olson are
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retiring because frankly, i can think, they can read the writing on the wall. this is not just a story about texas. this is a story about the kinds of voters donald trump is alienating, that trumpism is alienating. we have all read the stories about the white working class across the greater industrial midwest who show up to trump rallies in cincinnati, the people who say, swing at 61-year-old trump protesters. the people who cut t-shirts on their baeds, the people who like to chant send her back, but say of congresswoman ilhan omar i don't want her stinking muslim crap in my country. we all know there is a significant portion of the country that that appeals to, that trumpism appeals to. it was a key part of trump winning a narrow electoral college victory, despite losing by three million votes. but, and this cannot be stated enough, there is a much larger part of the country that trumpism alienates.
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yes, the scales are tipped in trump's direction thanks to the electoral college, but it's still a real problem for him. what is happening in texas is will hurd and pete olson realizing their constituents don't like donald trump, and reelection is practically impossible because they are stained by the president. that's what i think we're seeing. will hurd would probably win reelection without donald trump. so would pete olson. the culture war that donald trump is waging is polarizing the country. as much as we focus on the people that trump is energizing, there are even more people who used to be gettable republican votes that he is deeply alienating. software programmers in dallas suburbs, chicanos along the rio grande who are not in any way liberal. heck, george w. bush won texas hispanics. those are gettable votes the gop or at least they used to be. but running around spewing racist rants of people of color, congressman had his house being broken into, being so much of a bigot that people thought was a
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racist, it does cost you something. and the cost is what you're seeing happen in places like texas. joining me now former republican congressman ryan costello. he chose not to run for reelection in 2018. natalia salgado, an organization that encourages voter participation and jelani cobb, staff writer at "the new yorker" and professor at the school of columbia journalism. let me start with you since you lived this. >> i sure did. >> if you were still in congress, when donald trump goes in front of a rally and people shout "send her back." when the president says taunting about elijah cummings's broken in to, what position does that put you? ? >> no matter how much you speak out, i think we were in twanlt where if you oppose trump, and maybe you're a republican or an
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independent or independent leaning democrat, no matter what your republican member of congress would say as a rebuttal or as an objection to that, it almost didn't matter. >> criorrect. >> what are you going to do? it's a slippery slope. that's why that's the challenge. i might also add, we're talking about the retirements. now we're going into august where everybody gets to go home, and these questions multiply over and over and over again. >> your group focuses on mobilizing voters that are on the other side of the trump equation, right? largely people of color, black and brown voters. and that's part of the story here too. there is some alienation among white voters in the suburbs and elsewhere, all through the country. we should be clear. it's not geographically limited. there are white people in rural areas who find it gross the president is doing this. what effect do you think it has on mobilization and your ability to organize? >> look at the numbers that we have on the ground, right? we have the largest number of registered black voters in texas more than any other state in the
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country, right? we had 831,000 texan latinos, more texan latinos came out to vote in 2018 than did in 2014. so we have this rising majority, not just in texas, but nationally. and i think what trump is underestimating, he thinks his fearmongering is giving his folks the sort of energy and air that they need to go into 2020, but he is underestimating our side. >> right. >> he is underestimating what black and latinos can do when we come together and when we organize. and can i one more thing? the sort of -- our political home has so much transitioned from the democratic party and is so much more attune to organizations that are on the ground doing the sort of local organizing. these are folks that are there year round. >> right. >> knocking on doors, talking about issues, not just candidates, but about issues that our people care about. >> the amount of organizing that went into texas before beto. obviously beto had run a very good campaign and he really worked his tail off and he went to all the counties.
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but in places like harris county slr , there have been groups on the gr very, very hard on precisely those constituencies. >> that's exactly right. texas organizing project through nine electoral cycles basically went in and took a republican stronghold and converted it into a democratic stronghold, right? so when beto came in on his white horse, all this fruit was ripe for the picking. >> he ran a very good race. if you look at the numbers, to me texas is so important. it's not just about texas, it's about the changing shape of the coalitions, right? romney wins texas by 16 points. trump wins it by only 9. now cruz beats beto by three. that is an arrow pointing in the wrong direction for texas republicans. >> sure. and it's also kind of representative of all the things we've seen across the south. you remember we think back. >> georgia too. >> well certainly georgia.
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you think 2008 about how much of a shockwave it was when obama won north carolina. not only was this a viable african american candidate, it was a viable african american candidate winning a republican state in the south. and so this has been kind of the kind of slow-moving wave for a long time. the other thing about this i think is interesting, though, if you think about what we saw on the kind of early wave of trumpism where anyone that kind of stood up, especially in the republican side was vulnerable. the way he taunted jeff flake. you can't win if you're not 100% aligned with me, and so on. what we're seeing is kind of the flip side of this. you remember when the lee atwater tape, the famous lee atwater team, the famous way he talks about evolution and race, how people use overt racist language and how they move into more subtle coded. >> it goes from the "n" word to then you're talking about tax cuts is the trajectory. >> there was a reason for that. there was a reason that people
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made that evolution, because there were people who might tolerate but they would not stomach the overt gross forms of it. >> that was a smart thing to do. >> exactly. this is what trump is saying. it's kind of a boomerang effect that now people wow, you're talking about baltimore. maybe i don't like elijah cummings. maybe i think mostly the problems are self-inflicted. but i can't really think of myself as a good, fair person if i cosign this kind of foolishness. >> you know, i want to play a little bit, he is now doing this riff about how terrible america's cities are, which again i think is pretty explicitly racially coded. i want to play the riff about how the places in america that he is, again, they're his constituents as much as they're anyone else's, how terrible they are. take a listen. >> you sear our inner cities. we spend billions and billions and billions for years and years and years, and it's stolen money, and it's wasted money and it's a shame. the homicide rate in baltimore
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is significantly higher than el salvador, honduras, guatemala. i believe it's higher than -- give me a place that you think is pretty bad. give me a place. the guyayn. i believe it's higher than afghanistan. the conditions in nancy pelosi's once great city of san francisco are deplorable. look at los angeles with the tents and the horrible, horrible disgusting conditions. you must have a democrat mayor. do you have a democrat mayor? >> i mean, this is untolerable. it's indefensible, right? because we all look at that and we think to ourselves this is just an indefensible way for the president of the united states to talk. >> i'm not here defending it. >> i'm not saying you have to. if you can just agree.
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>> what am i going to say? >> i am literally left congress so i wouldn't have to. >> can i add one thing here, though? this is what happens when you turn off your critical faculties. these are the same people who loved him because they felt he was empathetic toward these places where white men's life expectancy was declining in part because of opioid abuse. you could go through a long moralistic taunting rant where these places where people are using fentanyl and places where there are no jobs and why haven't you moved some place and get work. >> you could do the riff about those places. >> so as the republican, right, the jack kemp/paul ryan sort of let's have an urban agenda. let's go in the city. let's go workforce development, reform the education system. there is a lot of things republicans can and should be doing for the long-term health
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of the party. if we do not have a two-party system that is competing all across the country against one another, we have a marketplace of ideas that is held hostage by one party or another. >> the bigger problem to me is forget the inner city as it's called. the bigger problems for republicans are the suburbs. what's remarkable is the metro areas. barack obama i think won harris county by 900 votes. hillary clinton won by 100,000. so we're not just talking about the city. and the city increasingly, the boundaries, i know this from my reporting in chicago, they're very permeable. there are lots of suburbs of chicago that are very black and brown, that are very working class. they aren't necessarily what we think of when we think of the suburbs as code for white. >> lancaster, there was a "new york times" article that came out recently. it's the sort of, like, not to use the cliche, but a melting pot. >> yes. >> we have all the folks that are coming to lancaster back in your home state, right, places like that that are not going to -- are going to sort of come up.
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they're going to stand up against this sort of fearmongering. they're going to stand up against the hate. and, you know, at some point we're going to turn around to the republican party and say where are you going to stand? >> well, and i think the biggest challenge for republicans right now is in suburban america, in a lot of counties that are historically republican which is where i was born and raised, the democratic party's ability to organize has been on rocket fuel. as a consequence. >> of trump. >> it's the style. it's not the substance -- it's the style, not the substance. and that is a very difficult thing to overcome. you know, you can talk about good government at the local level, a the county level. >> people don't want the hear it. >> what about that? right? >> yes. >> and that's a very difficult thing to overcome. >> i will say one thing, though. in the case of trump, the style is the substance. >> yeah, that's right. >> that's what he is selling. >> ryan costello, not talia salgado and jelani cobb, thank you, it was great. >> thank you. next, a reminder that political pressure can work on president trump as he backs off from nominating a highly
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unqualified supporter to a top intelligence post. the end of the ratcliffe fiasco in two minutes. ♪
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i agree with the chairman this morning when he said donald trump is not above the law. he's not. but he damn sure shouldn't be below the law, which is where volume two of this report puts him. >> that was republican congressman john ratcliffe's star turn last month at the mueller hearing. his performance almost certainly is what got donald trump's attention and prompted the president to float ratcliffe's name as a director of national intelligence probably that was probably ratcliffe's high point. today he stepped down for consideration for the position because once people started digging into his background, well, apparently he lied about it a fair amount. the terrorism investigations that he claimed to oversee in the eastern district of texas seem to be pretty hard to find. the 300 undocumented immigrants
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he claimed to arrest in a single day, as "the washington post" put it, he didn't. saying of ratcliffe, quote, the name doesn't ring a bell. ouch. he is supposed to tenure chief of the anti-terrorism and national security for eastern texas. as one tweeted, quote, that role doesn't exist. senate republicans seemed lukewarm at best on ratcliffe, and his nomination came as mitch mcconnell faced some serious pressure for his failure to protect american elections while expressing his deep personal umbrage at being called moscow mitch. today he is announced he is out. he weirdly blame and praised the press for ratcliffe's withdrawal. >> you vet. i think the white house has a great vetting process. you vet for me. when i give a name, i give it out to the press, and you vet for me. >> which goes to show that even in the era of donald trump,
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political pressure can work and gravity does still exist. josh marshall of talking points memo and jennifer rubin. jennifer, it does seem to me, we've seen this now a bunch of times. we saw with herman cain and steven moore as possibilities a the fed where a name gets floated and the backlash both external and internal does actually matter. >> right. i think it's indicative of two things. one, there is absolutely nobody in the white house now to tell him no or to dissuade him from these things. he sees someone on fox and it's out of his mouth and on to twitter. and the second is that there are limits in the republican party in the senate on some of these critical nominations. they do care enough about the fed to make a fuss. they do care enough -- >> yep. >> -- the one security, national security position that possibly could still have someone who is actually competent. they're not willing to criticize trump. they're not willing to call him
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a racist or call him incompetent, but they do have their limits, and every once in a while they put their foot down, particularly when you taunt the majority leader. and he really doesn't like being called moscow mitch. moscow mitch is a term that would annoy him a lot if we use the term moscow mitch all that much. >> well, i think to jennifer's point which i think is quite astute, in some ways this episode to me is tremendously damning for congressional republicans, because as with stephen moore and herman cain, who they both torpedos. >> yes. >> they do and can exert pushback against this president if they so choose. when there are children being ripped from their parents and people kept in horrible conditions and tons of racism spewing forth and corruption right in front, they choose not to push back on that. >> yeah, no, look. as jennifer was saying, there are at least several senators who really care a lot about intelligence, national security issues. it's not just a political issue for them.
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it's something that they see as like kind of their possession. that's what they're there for. >> a commitment to it. >> yeah. and that was just a case of yes, he is a -- the guy had zero experience. it was ridiculous. >> it was a ridiculous nomination. >> it was a ridiculous nomination. and it sort of -- this whole episode made me think as much as many of us yearn for it, it's going to be a weird transition post trump because normal politics seem so different. >> yes. >> this seemed like oh, okay, that was whatever. he brings this guy who has zero experience. in a day or so it comes out. his whole political resumeredeng these things. and these things seemed semi normal us to. they're not normal. >> we're totally used to that process. now you've got a situation where they appear to be intent on steamrolling the law about the replacement. so sue gordon i believe is the name of the number two at dni
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right now, widely respected. adam schiff says he likes her a lot. "the new york times" reporting that he won't let the number two spy chief take over. in fact, mr. trump did not allow ms. gordon to personally deliver an intelligence briefing after she recently lived a the white house according to a person familiar with the matter. what do you make of that, jennifer? >> this is just of course the tyranny of stupid ity. he doesn't want anyone who is a professional. he doesn't want anyone who worked for dan coats who is a professional. he wants flunkies. it just shows you how far we've gone. by the way, isn't it bothering anyone that ratcliffe is a republican on the intelligence committee and has lied about all these things? that's kind of an important job, and apparently they let anyone on that committee. detecti devin nunes, ratcliffe. you would think the republicans would have qualms about that, but no. >> they are now -- we have seen them to further your point what it will be like when this is
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over, they have completely made a mockery of the constitutional provision of advise and consent. they have put all these people in temporary. they have completely driven a truck through the loophole that is a vacancy reform act. and now they're apparently going to try to run over the plain letter of the law which says that the deputy shall become the dni in absence. >> it's interesting. as you implied, they've created this sort of weird alternative nomination process. >> that's exactly right. >> in every other previous presidency, there is no selection of the acting. the acting is just who the acting is. >> the next person. that's the whole point. >> and it's not like it's supposed to be acting. it's not permanent. it's not a decision. it's just that person, since we have literally no one in charge and then we'll nominate someone. but you can kind of tell that the choice of an acting. and there was this report today where i'm sure you saw this, they sent a note over to the dni. they want a list of everybody who works there who is like in a
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senior executive position, which several levels like a, what is that about? and you are basically saying you probably have never heard of the person who you want to nominate. it's bizarre. >> throw us some names so we cannot have the woman who showed up at my door who i don't want the hear from. jennifer rubin and josh marshall, thank you for spending your time. coming up, ta-nehisi coats turn i and trump's racial agenda, next.
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the president has now developed a bit of a bit in his rallies that harkened back to
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his racist riffs off his racist belief that black people live in filth and squalor. so he does this bit now where he repeatedly heaps the kind of racist scorn on his own constituents, our fellow americans that live in major american cities that he once reportedly heaped on major african countries, proving the president is both a racist who is being true to himself when he does this, and also thinks it is politically advantageous to do it. joining me to talk about all this is writer ta-nehisi coates whose hometown has recently been the subject of the president's racist tweets. ta-nehisi, you sent me a text saying are you doing something in baltimore? i want to talk about it. what did you want to say? >> wow, you're just going to put me on blast like that. >> no, it's good. i want to hear. >> you know what i wanted to say? i wanted to say i love baltimore. and i wanted specifically young people in baltimore and young black people in baltimore, who are always on the receiving end
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of a kind of invective about their lack of humanity, their lack of beauty, their lack of intelligence from the country at large, and now coming from the president of the united states. i just thought it was very, very important that i speak out and let the know that i see them, that they're human, and that no matter what the crime rates are in baltimore, i don't care if elijah cummings represented the district with the highest murder rate in america, with the highest murder rate in the world, it is never okay to refer to people as less than human, as verm vermin. no statistic can justify that. >> i think we have the situation now where the president is clearly -- he has been doing this forever. he has done it with chicago. in fact, we went and did a town hall in chicago in response to the way he talked about chicago. we did reporting on baltimore, partly because of exactly the way the national press covers that city where he really wants
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this kind of racialized us versus them against our fellow americans to be the kind of focal point of what he is -- the story he is telling the country. . >> well, but there is a direct connect to how he started, right? this is, you know, the cousin of birtherism. birtherism has its origins in the deep seated belief that black people are not actually americans, and that's a very, very old trope in this racist history. one of the great things that america's always struggled with was accepting black people and still struggles with is accepting black people as equal citizens. that goes back to 1619. it continues today in 2019. the president doesn't consider baltimore part of america. he doesn't consider chicago part of america. he doesn't consider puerto rico part of america. fundamentally, and he in much the same way he did not consider barack obama an american. and those things are actually tied together, and he is pulling
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from a deep well in this country. trump didn't invent that idea. >> you know, it's precisely because of the depth of the well he is pulling from that the stakes to me seem almost like existential, not in the sense of the country goes away if he wins again, you know, but just in terms of like the fundamental question. >> the damage is done. >> yeah. and the question being called as it has been in other times in this country's history, it was definitely i think called during reconstruction. it was called during jim crow. the question is called before the nation what are we, what kind of country will we be? who owns what america is? and it doesn't get any more fundamental than that to me it seems. >> yeah. and, you know, it gets really scary, because it's not just trump. i really hate to call people out. but i thought it was a powerful example this week where the deputy editor of "the new york
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times" put out a tweet asserting other things. he was trying to make a more complicated point, but what he basically wrote is john lewis was not from the deep south. john lewis, who is a share cropper born in alabama, who represents atlanta. atlanta was somehow not the deep south. there was really no other way to read that except race, except excising black people out of the population of what it means to be a citizen. and so certainly i would not argue that the deputy editor is somehow a trumpist, but you see how that rhetoric creeps into quote/unquote other more respectable places. it's a very, very dangerous idea and very, very dangerous notions, precisely because they run so deep in america. >> i wanted to ask you about this recording that was just unearthed, because it relates to something you've written about a lot, that you and i have discussed a lot. in fact, we were talking about the top of the show. the idea of the dog whistle, the idea of politics that are racially coded if not always explicitly barked in the way the president barks them.
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this really, really disgusting moment, there is no other way to say it ronald reagan and richard negatives which we covered last night, i want to play this little clip for you and get your reaction. take a listen. >> last night, i tell you, to watch that thing on television as i did. >> yeah. >> to see those -- those monkeys from those african countries. they're still uncomfortable wearing shoes. >> and the tail wags the dog there, doesn't it? >> yep. >> the tail wags the dog. >> it's all right there. >> yeah. i hate to sound cynical, but i don't know why we would be surprised by this. ronald reagan was a white man who was raised in the 20th century in the era of jim crow, segregation, not necessarily in the deep south, but in the era of jim crow in america. we have a popular culture especially during that time. this is an era that's replete
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with black faces, replete with mocking representations of black people. there is a report earlier this week that reagan would often make the joke that when africans had you for dinner, they quote/unquote had you for dinner, nudge, nudge, get it? those were commonplace jokes. and so i think for some people the feeling is we're now applying modern standards to judge that sort of thing. for black people this it always offensive, dehumanizing. it was always racist. it was always horrible. i think you're going to be hard-pressed to find a president if you start going back like that where you won't find rhetoric like that. with reagan it was policy matched to the rhetoric. there was a politics of treating black people as though they were subhuman. that really has not changed if you look at the party today, the republican party today. >> we have not talked off line about the debates, i think, and i don't know how much of them you got to watch.
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but i'm curious about what you think the meta conversations that emerged about that sort of fear that democrats are backing themselves into corners on unpopular issues. there were several questions about reparations and sort of a surprising i think amount of support for either the beginnings of some sort of study or actual reparations, and then people point to the fact that doesn't poll very well. i wonder what you think about the analysis that says the democrats are playing with fire by backing themselves into corners supporting things that might be unpopular. >> i'm struggling to detect the difference between this primary debate and other primary debates on both sides in general. primary debates are generally different than what happens in the general election. and what generally happens with some recent exceptions is people tack away from positions that they -- >> that's a great point. >> i believe barack obama when he was debating with hillary clinton, didn't he make the promise there would be no
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mandate? >> yes. >> immediately, as soon as he won, immediately dispensed that. i'm having a hard time seeing why this is different. there is certainly more candidates. so there may be more people doing that. but i don't get what fundamentally is happening here that's different than in other times. >> all right. ta-nehisi coates, thank you so much for making some time from cooperstown, new york today. i really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me, chris. i love you, baltimore. >> all right. thanks a lot, man. ahead, how a conspiracy theory considered to be a potential domestic terror threat made it to the stage of the president's campaign stop. plus, tonight's thing 1, thing 2 starts next. it's going ok? great. now i'm spending more time with the kids. i'm introducing them to crab. crab!? they love it. so, you mentioned that that money we set aside. yeah. the kids and i want to build our own crab shack. ♪ ♪ ahhh, you're finally building that outdoor kitchen. yup - with room for the whole gang.
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themselves from germany, a reporter asked the president if he had a message for poland. you tell me if it looks like trump knows what the warsaw uprising was. >> do you have a message for poland on the anniversary of the warsaw uprising? >> well, i have a lot of respect for poland. as you know, the people of poland like me, and i like them. and i'm going to be going to poland fairly soon. >> okay. as we noted before, donald trump is not exactly a student of world history or geography, in particular the united kingdom. >> what some people say is great britain and some people remember a word you don't hear too much is the worried england, which is a piece of it. >> i have great respect for the uk, united kingdom. great respect. people call it britain. they call it great britain. they call it -- they used to call it england, different parts. but the uk. great respect. >> to be joined by the leaders
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producer in the entire world, bigger than soviet union formerly. remember the soviet union, when it was all together? the soviet union when it was all together, before they decided we got to call ourselves russia. >> yeah that. >> just got together and we're all together but we got to call ourselves russia. that is one way of looking at it. there are competing theories, and it is in disagreement with the historical analysis by a certain historian, donald j. trump. . >> russia used to be the soviet union. afghanistan made it russia. because they went bankrupt fighting in afghanistan, russia. and literally they went bankrupt. they went into being called russia again as opposed to the soviet union, you know. a lot of these places you're reading about now are no longer a part of russia. oriasis,
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we just learned about a previously unknown fbi intelligence bulletin identifying, quote, fringe conspiracy theories as a domestic terrorist threat. it's known as q anan. followers are regulars at trump rallies. it's difficult to describe what it is. it's convoluted and also constantly changing. here's how the fbi describes it.
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an anonymous government official known as q posts things online to dismantle a conspiracy involving deep state actors and global leads allegedly involved in a child sex trafficking ring. q anan supporters are in the crowd and they held up a baby. a baby girl wearing a onesie that said trump on the front and q on the back. the president called that a beautiful baby. trump has not addressed qanon directly. one of the big qanon rallying cries, perhaps the biggest, is where we go one we go all. at trump's rally in cincinnati on the very day we learned they identified qanon as a threat,
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one took the stage and you the uttered that. >> we are all in this together. where we go one,all. >> he is not associated with qanon. he happened to repeat that phrase. joining me is ben collins. let's start with the fbi bulletin. >> sure. so it came out of the phoenix field office of the fbi. that doesn't necessarily mean it's the whole view of the fbi. this is the first time we've talked about this at all, conspiracy driven extremism. and they have a reason that it would come from that specific place. two hours from that field office in tucson there was a stabbndof between an armed qanon person. they got into a fight with the police. this is the thing that's
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starting to show up in the trump rally in the real world a lot. >> i guess there's some part of me that's worried about the fbi monitoring the fbi's knowledge. they don't have good history of that. as someone who's been following this for a long time, why should we think of it as something more worrisome than a weird cult. >> it is a weird cult. baked into it is a lot of very resonant, i would say, political conspiracy theories that are based on hating specific religions and groups of people. it says it in the fbi report. it says we have a long -- this is long ties to ethnic sort of hatred. >> yeah. >> like it's based on the premise of things like blood letting, terrible stuff. it's based on the premise that hillary clinton is literally eating children. that the mueller investigation was supposed to figure that out and now it's shifted.
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it's all very messy but the point is that there's a satanic cabal running the world. if you haven't heard it from the salem witch trials. >> that's a dangerous thing putting into people's heads. >> exactly. because it attacks persecuted people and attacks women. throughout history we know that to be true. there are two murders from qa qanon. then the crazy case of a mob boss in new york was killed not related to the qanon but the individual who showed up flashed a q. >> his lawyer said he thought he had the protection of the president. that's what they think. it's not worth getting into it. >> his lawyers are saying it was connected to qanon. >> that's part of their
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argument. >> there's a deeply human aspect. it's a little bit like a doomsday cult in that if i understand this correctly, i tried to not spend a ton of time on this. >> that's healthy. >> i sort of depend on you. >> okay. >> you do the reading, i get the secondhand stuff. basically the sort of predictions of these big moments although the satanic cabal will be revealed, donald trump and his -- the people working with him will roll off this deep sat continue conspiracy and it will be revealed. there have been a series of predictions when this will be. >> this ends with them with a literal parade with all of the pedophiles where they march to their death. >> to their death? >> they actually believe this. they thought one of the days was going to be wednesday of this week. previously it was december 5th. it keeps getting pushed back. if you look at what conspiracy theorists generally believe, this sort of thing strengthens their belief. the fact that it didn't happen,
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the deep state. we must be getting much stronger. >> unfalseifiable belief. >> nothing happened. she won't believe me anymore. she certainly won't believe in q. what the heck. #ganon, #losingfriends. >> people are talking about how thanksgiving was rough for them. they're talking about this thing that was really niche. they got driven down this rabbit hole on facebook or youtube. it's a good emotional response. they haven't gotten rid of the clintons and all of the things they've been taught. this is supposed to fix it. >> right. >> that doomsday will eventually comes for them. when it keeps getting pushed back, it's frustrating but they
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think it's part of the plan. >> ben collins, thank you very much. >> thank you. that is all this evening. the "rachel maddow show" starts this evening with joy reid. >> what a weird world. >> i mean, i just -- i don't know. >> what is there to say except wow. yeah. >> lord help us. >> thank you, chris. have a good night. okay. thank you. we have lots to get to tonight. we start tonight with news about a key figure in trump world and now a key witness in the mueller investigation. rick gates served as deputy chairman of the trump campaign. gates had been paul manafort's right hand deputy working for ukrainian e iaian oligarchs. manafort was pushed out in august of 2016 but rick gates stayed on right through election day. gates then served as the number two official on the trump inaugural committee.
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